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znModeratoralyoshamucci (comment made after pick 50)
A lot of teams reaching.
This was a great Rams draft strategy … there is going to be some crazy value and opportunity for us today. 5 picks in day 2? I would have jumped for joy knowing that.
But really, a lot of reaches. I’m pretty stunned at some of them. Guys definitely got locked in on a player and are missing what’s going on.
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
The #Rams did their homework on the running back prospects in this draft. It’ll be interesting if that results in a Day Two investment at that position.
znModeratorI think they can go any combination of (alphabetical order) these positions and do fine: CB, OLB/edge, DL, safety, OL. Which, I know, is breaking news. There are hints they may sneak a running back in there.
Rams (as most know) have a fantastic record with 3rd round picks.
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
The staff has so much confidence in Aaron Kromer’s ability to identify and develop prospects.If you line up the Rams last 3 good OL coaches–Hanifan, Boudreau, Kromer–there’s no doubt that all 3 had the ability to develop good prospects.
All 3 have long, very good track records with that.
What seems to set Kromer apart is that when it comes to drafting anyway, he is also able to identify good prospects.
That was just not always true of Hanifan and Boudreau. And btw from everything I have seen, the OL coach has a huge say in which linemen a team drafts. That has certainly been the case with the Rams.
Hanifan does have Pace but that was a no-brainer.
Boudreau was much better coaching up veterans. And veterans of all kinds too–big money free agents, cast-offs and other ronin.
Kromer seem like he can pick em in the draft, and coach em.
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znModeratorProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
Multiple sources say the Dolphins are close to a deal for QB Josh Rosen, and that a deal may actually be tentatively done. Arizona would get pick No. 48 from Miami.
znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Worth noting heading into tonight’s rounds 2-3: Rams OC Shane Waldron flew to Oklahoma this week to workout Oklahoma St. RB Justice Hill. Rams scheduled to have 4 picks tonight. Rams, Browns, Texans, Titans, Broncos, Eagles, Cowboys amongst others attended Hill’s personal pro day
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znModeratorDeadpool
There are 12 picks before the Rams pick in the 2nd. I think we all saw this coming. There will be more trades, but lets think this thing thru and see if we can’t come up with 10 names or so for tomorrow.
Drew Lock – QB is going early. So now there are 11 players before the Rams pick.
Byron Murphy CB is my top CB, not top CB left, my top overall CB, he’ll be gone leaving 10 guys before the Rams pick.
Cody Ford – OG/RT – I bet he goes rel early – down to 9
DK Metcalf – I cannot imagine he lasts long on day 2 considering he is my #1 WR and #6 overall prospect. Down to 8.
AJ Brown – Alyo’s #1 WR and my #3 WR, he’s gone before the Rams pick. Down to 7.
Jawaan Taylor – a 1st round quality RT – I am shocked he lasted until day 2. He’ll be gone I have to think. Down to 6.So with that said, these are the guys I suspect the Rams like:
11. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson – S – Florida – 5′-11″ 210 lbs. – A scheme transcendent FS that can play man, zone and even in the slot. A rare blend of instincts, range, speed and ball skills make him a versatile defender for a teams back end.
15. Nasir Adderley – S – Delaware – 6′-0″ 206 lbs. – Another swiss army knife FS that can play anywhere and comes with a CB background. Physical and not afraid of contact, sideline to sideline with ball skills. FCS competition isn’t much of a concern.
17. Erik McCoy – IOL – Texas A&M – 6′-4″ 303 lbs. – An OC/OG prospect with a nice blend of power and athleticism. plays under control with good technique. power or zone fit.
18. Dalton Risner – OT – Kansas State- 6′-5″ 312 lbs. – Mauler, a strong, nasty mauler. RT that wants to finish you play after play. Experienced with good technique. 24 years old, so a bit older. man power scheme. I like him at RT, some may like him inside.
20. Greedy Williams – CB – LSU – 6′-2″ 185 lbs. -another big, fast (sub 4.4) Cb that plays with swagger. Fluid athlete and has good ball skills. Allergic to tackling and was a bit up and down this season. Legit #1 size, athleticism and skill set.
21. Chase Winovich – EDGE – Michigan – 6′-3″ 256 lbs. – Under-rated speed and athleticism, high motor and high IQ, sideline to sideline defender that can play the run and the pass, 3 down defender.
23. Rock Ya-Sin – CB – Temple – 6′-0″ 192 lbs. – great name, good, not great speed and is a bit stiff in his movement, although its not something that hinders him too much. Physical and makes plays on the ball. man corner
25. Taylor Rapp – S – Washington – 6′-0″ 208 lbs. – a SS with ok range. He’ll earn his paycheck playing closer to the LoS and being that extra run stopper. Physical with an edge.
26. Amani Oruwariye – CB – Penn State – 6′-2″ 205 lbs. – sub 4.5 speed, and tested out of the gym at the combine. smooth athlete that plays up to his size. Works in any scheme.
32. Juan Thornhill -S – Virginia- 6′-0″ 205 lbs. – If your shopping for a ballhawk FS, here you go. On top of that, his combine testing was otherworldly. He doesn’t play that explosively, but he has plenty of juice. Solid tackler.
So there you have it. 10 guys and 4 should make it to the Rams. I have a feeling a couple of those Safeties and Cbs will not, but you are left with plenty of choices. If I were to guess, I would say one of these 6 guys are the Rams pick:
EriK McCoy – OC/OG in a zone blocking scheme that isn’t quite the mover Bradbury was, but is stronger and a better run blocker and offers you scheme flexibility.
Dalton Risner – If the Rams think he can play OC, he would make the OL immediately tougher. No more getting bullied by teams like Chicago, Philly and NE.
Chase Winovich – He is a perfect fit at Edge and the highest rated pass rusher left in the draft.
Rock Ya-Sin – I think he is a LA Ram type CB, a Senior and a Senior Bowl participant, they can brink him along slowly and replaces Talib next year.
Rapp/Thornhill – I think of all the S they visited, these 2 both make it to their pick and make sense. Thornhill is a ballhawking playmaker and Rapp is a SS that is a good mover that plays all over and thumps.
If I had my way, I would draft Gardner-Johnson, Adderely or Winovich. And go back and Take Nate Davis in the 3rd with a Saunders and a CB that slips.
znModeratorBest players available for Rams on Day 2 of draft
https://theramswire.usatoday.com/gallery/nfl-draft-2019-best-players-available-day-2-round/
After trading out of the first round, the Los Angeles Rams now enter Day 2 of the 2019 NFL draft with an abundance of options. Many of their top targets are still on the board at positions of need, including offensive line, cornerback and safety, among others.
Here are the best players still available, sorted by position.
OT Jawaan Taylor, Florida
One of the best offensive line prospects in the draftC Erik McCoy, Texas A&M
An talented center who could’ve gone in Round 1.OL Elgton Jenkins, Mississippi State
Would most likely play center in NFL, but brings versatility.OG Nate Davis, Charlotte
Powerful guard and potential Rodger Saffold replacement.OL Cody Ford, Oklahoma
Can play tackle or guard at the next level.OT Dalton Risner, Kansas State
Risner compares favorably to Andrew Whitworth, but can play guard, too.CB Greedy Williams, LSU
Long and fast CB with excellent man coverage skills.CB Byron Murphy, Washington
Can play man or zone, terrific ball skills.CB Rock Ya-Sin, Temple
Physical cornerback who fits nicely in Rams’ scheme.CB Justin Layne, Michigan State
Athletically gifted player with the skill set to play outside.CB David Long, Michigan
Shorter CB who thrives in press coverage.FS Nasir Adderley, Delaware
Rangy free safety with cornerback traits.SS Taylor Rapp, Washington
A versatile safety despite limited speed and range.FS Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, Florida
Can play any position in the secondary.FS Deionte Thompson, Alabama
Gambling free safety with great range.SS Amani Hooker, Iowa
At either free or strong safety, he’s an impact player.ILB Mack Wilson, Alabama
Concerns about speed and athleticism caused him to slide.ILB Blake Cashman, Minnesota
Rangy linebacker who plays sideline to sideline.ILB Jahlani Tavai, Hawaii
Pre-draft visitor with tremendous athleticism.EDGE Chase Winovich, Michigan
Relentless motor and always rallies to the ball.EDGE Jachai Polite, Florida
Questions about work ethic but first-round tape.EDGE Jaylon Ferguson, Louisiana Tech
NCAA all-time sack leader with athletic limitations.EDGE Christian Miller, Alabama
Potential is there to become an early contributor at OLB.DT Trysten Hill, Central Florida
Powerful and quick 3-technique for his size.DT Renell Wren, Arizona State
Elite traits but inconsistent player.DT Khalen Saunders, Western Illinois
Smaller nose tackle with a very high ceiling.DT Dre’Mont Jones, Ohio State
Fits best in a one-gap scheme thanks to his athleticism.DT Daylon Mack, Texas A&M
Wide nose tackle who can plug up running lanes in the middle
znModeratorfrom Trade value chart says Rams got better end of deal with Falcons
Trade value chart says Rams got better end of deal with Falcons
…according to the trade value chart, they got the better end of the deal with the Falcons. Here’s how the points added up for the Falcons and Rams:
Rams get No. 45 and 79 (645 points)
Falcons get No. 31 and 203 (609.8 points)
znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Defensive linemen and linebackers were in the spotlight throughout the first round. There were 15 DL/LB selected Thursday, the most such first-round picks in the Common Draft Era (1967). That includes four of the Top 5 picks, and seven of the Top 10.RamsNewsNow@RamsNewsNow
Rams make franchise history by sitting out 1st round for 3rd straight year
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Not ruling out the #Rams taking an offensive lineman at 31. But one thing to keep in mind: The staff has so much confidence in Aaron Kromer’s ability to identify and develop prospects. I’m pretty sure he’s pointed out a guy or two later in the draft he feels strongly about
znModeratorI can’t wait for the next episode. I shouldn’t do it but I do read fan theories and while some are wild or make no sense, others knock it out of the park. I think one I read nails something about the next episode and I can’t wait for it. I actually didn’t catch it but the hints are right in your face in episode 2. The other theory is interesting and makes sense but we will see. It involves Jamie.
So in any case I want to see if these happen. I have no doubt the first one will. Not sure about the second.
And of course none of what I’m saying makes sense without me dropping possible spoilers, and I won’t do that.
I am not a big “no spoilers” kinda guy, so, even though I haven’t seen it, I don’t mind “revelations.” So don’t hesitate about being specific about whatever it is you think will happen. It’s fine. Everyone, feel free to discuss all this openly. I would prefer that in fact.
If someone DOES avoid spoilers, I will put a “warning, spoilers” message in the subject title, and individual posters can choose to read or not.
Or what some posters do is white-out the spoilers by putting this around it: [ color =white] [ /color]. (I deliberately left gaps there so the code don’t work.) Then you have to use the cursor to blue it out if you want to read it.
Like this:
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znModeratorPFF's Top 10 players for today's 2019 #NFLDraft:
1. Kyler Murray, QB
2. Nick Bosa, Edge
3. Quinnen Williams, DI
4. Jonah Williams, OT
5. Josh Allen, Edge
6. Byron Murphy, CB
7. Jerry Tillery, DI
8. Jeffery Simmons, DI
9. Greedy Williams, CB
10. Dwayne Haskins, QB— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) April 25, 2019
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Sources: Rams desperately trying to trade down because Snead and McVay have tickets to ‘Endgame’ tonight.@JHekker will make the pick if no trade is made.
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znModeratoranother version, same thing different source
2019 State of the Rams: Demoff, Snead, McVay, Whitworth, Hekker, and Woods.
znModeratorDane Brugler@dpbrugler
Final mock draft will be posted in the AM. And I have to admit, it’s hard to feel confident about any of the picks, including No. 1.There are enough people around the league (who I trust) who don’t think Kyler Murray goes No. 1. It will be a fascinating 1st round.
znModeratorPFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Cris Collinsworth projects the #Rams picking C Garrett Bradbury out of NC State at pick 31. Bradbury was @PFF’s 2nd ranked interior OL heading into the draft.Whozzat?
If he’s Real, and not some Barrett Jones or Bern Brostek, I will take him.
from https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-2019-draft-fixes-for-all-32-nfl-teams
The weak link along the Rams’ offensive line last season was at center as John Sullivan limped to a 51.7 overall grade, which was the 34th-ranked grade at the position. With Rodger Saffold‘s departure from the guard spot, the interior offensive line is a key area for the defending NFC Champs to attack in the class and with Brian Allen the only center on the roster right now; it makes the most sense to start there. Adding a valued pass-rusher outside of the league’s best defensive player in Aaron Donald should only free up more one-on-one situations for the All-Pro in the interior.
Draft target: Garrett Bradbury, C, NC State
Bradbury was a top-five graded center each of the past two seasons and the highest-graded Power-5 center in this draft. He’s an ideal fit for the Rams and their outside zone scheme and he is extremely quick off the ball in the run game, while he’s capable of making the highlight-reel reach blocks necessary for a zone-blocking center.
znModeratorReception
Reviews for The Guard were overwhelmingly positive. The review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes reported a 95% approval rating with an average rating of 7.6/10 based on 125 reviews. The website’s consensus reads, “A violent, crackerjack comedy with a strong Irish flavor and an eminently likable Brendan Gleeson in the main role.” On Metacritic, the film has a score of 78 out of 100, based on reviews from 29 critics, indicating “generally favorable reviews”.In The Hollywood Reporter, Todd McCarthy wrote: “Scabrous, profane, violent, verbally adroit and very often hilarious, this twisted and exceptionally accomplished variation on the buddy-cop format is capped by a protean performance by Brendan Gleeson a defiantly iconoclastic West of Ireland policeman.” Vanity Fair’s John Lopez wrote: “So far, The Guard has been the most thoroughly enjoyable film experience at Sundance, a nice change of pace from the anomie, alienated angst and melancholy of other films.” In Screen International, David D’Arcy wrote: “As a director, McDonagh avoids the grand gesture and focuses on his web of odd characters that call to mind the comedies of Preston Sturges.” Justin Chang of Variety wrote: “The film making crackles with energy, from Chris Gill’s crisp editing and Calexico’s ever-inventive score to d.p. Larry Smith’s dynamic camerawork, alternating between bright, almost candy-coloured interiors and shots of Galway’s grey, rugged landscape.”
In The Times, Wendy Ide wrote: “Without doubt the strongest debut film of the year so far, this sly, witty and provocative Irish black comedy is an exceptionally funny crowd-pleaser and a playful cine-literate exercise, laced with arcane movie references… Gleeson must be thanking whatever guardian angel oversees his career for the brothers McDonagh giving him two of his meatiest roles yet.”Georgie Hobbs of Little White Lies wrote: “Unexpectedly hilarious, The Guard is the triumphant directorial debut of Ned Kelly screenwriter (and brother of In Bruges director Martin), John Michael McDonagh… This confident film knows full well how funny it is, daring to provoke with unfettered ‘unPCness’ a-plenty.”
znModeratorSo where’s CJ?
Because if you believe Gurley’s future is bleak…why let CJ go?
I know it’s the Big Thing to minimize RBs these days…but…they is necessary.
But see #1 they are not saying his future is bleak, just that it’s going to be more limited. The pain/inflammation thing flared up twice last year, and after both times he was better for several games. They keep saying they will manage his touches. But anytime someone says NOTHING is wrong, I ask, why did he have an episode in Sept. in game 1? And he said it was “bad” and in December when they sat him, McVay said the game 1 incident was a “similar situation.” So whatever it is, it happened twice, and once in game 1…so it’s not just wear and tear.
And CJ was signed to replace Brown when Brown went out. This off-season they chose Brown over CJ, I think, because Malcolm is the better pass blocker and receiver. I think the kind of blocking CJ got when he was in there, Malcolm would have done well too as a runner. Remember, Brown was Detroit’s first choice too (the Lions tried to sign MB and the Rams matched, and then they signed CJ).
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znModeratorRyan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
Every draft pick that the Rams made last season was attached in some way to a trade. Probably a safe bet that Les Snead will be burning up the phones again.Pro Football Rumors@pfrumors
Although the Raiders have been supportive of QB Derek Carr, both Kyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins impressed the Oakland staffPFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Cris Collinsworth projects the #Rams picking C Garrett Bradbury out of NC State at pick 31. Bradbury was @PFF’s 2nd ranked interior OL heading into the draft.
znModeratorfrom Rams Q&A: Vinny Bonsignore https://theathletic.com/942751/2019/04/24/live-rams-qa-with-vincent-bonsignore-today-from-noon-1-p-m-pt/
I do think one thing they’ll first try to do is trade down to collect more picks. That said, I’ve been told they are prepared willing and comfortable to make their pick at 31, based on the group of players they believe will be available. And if they do hold onto it, I see a defensive lineman first and foremost. But if their guy(s) aren’t there, BPA at CB/OL/ILB/S
So many directions they can go in. First and foremost they need to get the defensive line squared away. Cornerback – both current starters are entering the last year of their contracts – in another. Obviously there is a starter’s job open at ILB. And the offensive line needs depth. I could see them going in any of those areas with a BPA at any of those spots. But that d-line hole is so glaring. That’s the direction I think they’d go it
Noteboom and Allen are two guys the Rams really like and have poured a ton of time and effort into developing. The more likely scenario is a new guy comes in and develops for 2019 and is ready to be a starter in 2020. That is, unless it’s the NC State center, who I believe is a day one starter and Brian Allen would have a battle on his hands.
I think if they go high at RB it’s probably some sort of indication on Todd. Time will tell on Todd, obviously. And it’ll be interesting to see if they grab a running back in the draft, and at what point. But I’ll say this, action is louder than words, right? The fact they haven’t gone out and really made a major move at RB, doesn’t that tell you they feel pretty good about the situation? Now granted, maybe they do in the draft. I honestly don’t think anyone can truly answer [how TG is] until we see how he holds up through another full season. The way the Rams are acting/talking, it sure seems like there is a comfort level that whatever the issue is, they have a plan to manage it. I also think Malcolm’s role will expand, probably as a result of the plan moving forward. But as far as what exactly is Todd facing or up against, only time will tell. I’m not ruling anything out, because we still aren’t really sure what is up with Gurley. This draft may tell us a lot about him. So we will see
I think what you are seeing [compared to before 2017] is much better synergy between those two sides of the building [ie. coaching & personnel], and a really good job by Sean and his staff articulating to Les and his staff what they need in terms of skill sets in order to perform in the schemes they utilize. If there is one big difference, to me that is it. As a result, it makes Les and his staff’s job a little bit easier in terms of who they target
znModeratorGrant Paulsen@granthpaulsen
Just talked to a Redskins source who told me Dan Snyder has “taken over the first round of the draft.”The last time that happened the Redskins traded two future No. 1’s and a No. 2 to move up for Robert Griffin.
Greg Gabriel@greggabe
Reports that Washington is looking to get into Top 5 are 100% accurate. From what I have been told the QB they want is Daniel JonesMatt Perrault@sportstalkmatt
According to @Ourlads_Shonka …. SHOCKER here … he hears that Q. Williams of Alabama will go to the
@cardinals tomorrow at number 1 … not Kyler Murray.
znModeratorThe vid is informative, but unfortunately we actually do not know what is going on with TGs’ knee. Does he have a condition of some kind? If so what?
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Oh, i thought we knew he had arthritis. We dont know that?
What do we know, and when did we know it?
Do we just know he has/had a…’condition’ ?
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vWe don’t know anything frankly.
But there are these bits.
1. He had a knee problem in game 1 and under-performed in game 2. He himself said the situation then was “bad.” McVay confirmed it was similar to when they sat him in December. Those were McVay’s exact words–“a similar situation.”
2. And then they sat him in December with pain and inflammation, when he was out for 2 weeks.
Now what that those 2 things combined seem to indicate is that he has a condition that can flare up (including in game 1) and that points to the possibility of an underlying cause.
3. We have an unconfirmed report that he has arthritis. When directly asked about whether this was the case, all of the major guys–Snead, Demoff, McVay–basically did not answer the question.
So what do all that mean.
Well, there very well could be something, and it looks like there actually is something, but also, whatever it is, it also gets better, or otherwise he would not have been able to run like he did after game 2 (until the December recurrence). Same with the playoffs.
So him being fine now doesn’t necessarily tell us anything, just as one unconfirmed report of arthritis doesn’t necessarily tell us anything.
No one with the Rams will talk about arthritis. But to be strictly fair, we don’t really know what that means. The indications seem to be that going forward, they will manage his touches.
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znModeratordzrams
On trading back. Teams giving up 3rds to move up happens all the time…
In 2017, the Rams got a 3rd to move back only 7 spots from 37 to 44.
In 2015 with the Hav trade, Snead moved back about 15 picks in the 2nd and got a 3rd.
If they move into the 40-45 range from #31, they will get a lot more than a 4th.
Teams have paid a premium when moving into the end of the 1st round because they get that 5th year option. So 31 for 41 and 72 isn’t unreasonable per the trade charts and Snead’s trading history.
znModeratorThe vid is informative, but unfortunately we actually do not know what is going on with TGs’ knee. Does he have a condition of some kind? If so what?
znModeratorfrom NFL draft predictions for all 32 teams
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Los Angeles Rams
Rams will try to add picks to address both lines
The Rams will attempt to trade down, out of the 31st overall selection, to collect more picks later in the draft. They must find a young offensive lineman who is capable of contributing immediately after losing left guard Rodger Saffold in free agency and declining the option on center John Sullivan’s contract. They also have a need on the defensive line, with tackle Ndamukong Suh a free agent and unlikely to return, and must find a player also capable of contributing early. Last year, general manager Les Snead showed a knack for trading down and collecting picks as the Rams finished 2018 with 11 selections. They’ll start Thursday’s draft with seven picks, but don’t be surprised if they add a few more. The Rams also have needs at linebacker and in the secondary. — Lindsey Thiry
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
The Rams have drafted as many fullbacks (1) as they have DBs (1) since 2015.Daniel Jeremiah@MoveTheSticks
Teams have these CB’s stacked so differently. One team views a player as a top 3 CB while another will have him outside their top 10 CB’s. It will be really interesting to see how they come off the board.Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
After two seasons playing for his hometown Oakland Raiders, Marshawn Lynch is not planning to play football again, league sources tell ESPN.Now, with the three-day draft kicking off Thursday night in Nashville, the Raiders have one more potential need to address: running back.
The most Beast Mode run of Marshawn Lynch’s career will never get old. pic.twitter.com/PNTT4K0KGy
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) April 24, 2019
znModeratorChris Long@JOEL9ONE
I know there’s a lot of talk about the dead not being able to swim. They’re also dead, so they can’t drown. Maybe the Night King tows them all like kids in an inner tube behind Viserion. Couple shuttles back and forth.==
Oh also check out what I’m doing with all my free time… writing about @GameOfThrones … do y’all believe this Littlefinger theory?? https://t.co/p3Eq6h4Os5
— Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) April 23, 2019
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