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    in reply to: tweets … 5/1 – 5/2 #100881
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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    (#Rams release of safety Blake Countess)

    Opens a big door for 2nd pick Taylor Rapp, who figures to get into safety rotation/packages early. But also 7th round S Nick Scott, a special teams ace

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    Later this month, the NFL may guarantee a possession for the team that kicks to start overtime in postseason games, even if the first drive ends in a TD

    Geoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
    NO! You know you’re allowed to play defense in overtime? The Rams did it.

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    in reply to: Pick #5: Rams take Greg Gaines at 134 #100877
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    Inside the draft room: One last trade to pick up Greg Gaines

    Myles Simmons

    https://www.therams.com/news/inside-the-draft-room-one-last-trade-to-pick-up-greg-gaines

    After a flurry of trades to pick four players on Friday night, there’s not much time before the Rams get back at it in the draft room on Saturday morning.

    There are positives to living in pacific time during the draft. The first two nights start at 5 p.m. and 4 p.m., respectively — so you’re not picking players late into the night. But the drawback is that Saturday’s fourth-round proceedings begin at 9 a.m. It’s an early morning.

    As the day begins, Los Angeles has four picks — No. 162, No. 167, No. 169, and No. 251. The first three are in the fifth round, and the final in the seventh.

    Rams assistant director of college scouting Ted Monago enters the draft room at about 8:58, saying that this is the day where it’s time to find gold.

    “You can always find gold,” he says.

    In this case, that starts with the Rams finding a way to move up for defensive tackle Greg Gaines. General manager Les Snead would say later that afternoon at the post-draft press conference that acquiring Gaines was the team’s “first priority” for Saturday. According to Snead, he and McVay had met that morning, and came to the conclusion that Gaines would be the right fit to compete for the nose tackle spot vacated by the departed Ndamukong Suh in Los Angeles’ base 3-4 defense.

    But because the Rams opened the day with selections toward the end of the fifth round, there was work to be done in order to make the priority reality.

    Knowing this was the plan in retrospect fills in a few blanks as the fourth round plays out. Snead and McVay enter the draft room after ostensibly meeting about Gaines and stand in front of the defensive draft-board screen at the front of the room. After a while, it becomes clear that McVay has a player in mind who he believes can fill a specific role to help complete the makeup of Los Angeles’ defense. It also becomes clear that McVay feels like L.A. will have to trade up in order to get him.

    Executive vice president of football operations Kevin Demoff and vice president of football and business administration Tony Pastoors are working the phones, and they discuss with Snead and McVay the potential trade options. Much like it happened on Friday night, some teams are willing to deal if a player they want to select comes off the board. But for a while, none of those deals come to fruition. Those in the room also discuss which teams they know Gaines has met with, just to make sure they’re ahead of any other club that might want him.

    At one point, a team Snead had called about a potential swap calls the Rams’ GM back when that team is on the clock. But it’s a courtesy call, as that club’s time to make a selection is winding down — not a call to trade.

    “I appreciate the call. I was just expecting you to pick and not call us,” Snead says — since that’s the way most of these non-trades have gone. “I’ll remember that.”

    With the group of Snead, McVay, Demoff, and Pastoors in and out of the room, all working together to find a suitable partner, one proposal emerges that will clearly work around pick No. 132. As it turns out, it’s with the Patriots, who have back-to-back picks at No. 133 and 134. After both sides confirmed that New England didn’t plan on picking the player Los Angeles wanted at No. 134, McVay, who’s on the phone with the Pats, spells out the terms of the deal: L.A. gets No. 134 and No. 243 in exchange for No. 162 and No. 167.

    Pastoors phones the league to officially execute the trade, and Los Angeles selects Gaines at No. 134.

    The Rams have their nose tackle.

    Following Snead, McVay, and defensive line coach Eric Henderson, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips gets on the phone with Gaines to welcome him to the team and says it outright — the Washington product has a chance to make an impact right away.

    “It’s going great now, we’ve got you on our team!” Phillips says. “We’ve got a place for you — you konw, Ndamukong Suh left, so you’ve got a spot. We’re looking for you to get after it, OK?”

    “Big shoes to fill — I’m up for it,” Gaines replies.

    “Hey, you can do it,” Phillips says. “That’s why we got you now.”

    As the pick is announced on NFL Network, the room applauds. Then there are a few hoots and hollers when a graphic displays the Rams’ defensive front: Clay Matthews, Michael Brockers, Greg Gaines, Aaron Donald, and Dante Fowler.

    After selecting Gaines, the Rams now have a long time to wait for their next pick at No. 169. And, finally, it appears Los Angeles isn’t going to make a trade.

    As the selections turn to the 160s, the discussion on who the Rams should pick centers around building depth at certain spots versus picking players who can definitely make the gameday roster. Both are important, and the Rams come up with a plan to select players who can, hopefully, check off both boxes.

    In addition to the usual personnel staff, there are a few coaches in the room as the Rams come on the clock at No. 169.

    “Anybody feel different than that?” McVay asks, as the group comes to a consensus on who to pick. No one does, and L.A. turns in the card for Wisconsin offensive tackle David Edwards.

    When the sixth round becomes the seventh, scouts and assistant coaches essentially have to become recruiters. At one point, assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Barry jokes that it’s taking him back to his days as a coach for USC.

    Coaches and the personnel staff go back and forth, in and out of the draft room throughout the final round of the draft. But in the lead up to No. 243, the Rams discuss a player special teams coordinator John “Bones” Fassel is particularly fond of. Penn State safety Nick Scott was apparently Fassel’s favorite special teams player in this draft, so he’s understandably quite happy when L.A. turns in the card for Scott at No. 243.

    And to close out the Rams’ selections, Barry advocates for taking Texas Tech linebacker at No. 251, touting his quick-twitch movement and football instincts. And yes, he’s most known to the public as one of the stars of the Netflix show Last Chance U. But inside the draft room, the talk is more about his ability as a player and what he’s overcome to put himself in position to play in the NFL.

    “Love the way you handled adversity,” McVay tells Allen when the Rams call him to tell him the good news.

    That completes the Rams 2019 draft — six trades to net eight players. And while the selection process is done, each player’s NFL story is only beginning.

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    Rams UDFAs so far…UPDATED 5/1
    Alex Bachman – WR/KR, Wake Forest, 5-11 195
    Kendall Blanton – TE, Missouri, 6’6″ 262
    Chandler Brewer – OG, Middle Tennessee, 6’5 311
    Romello Brooker – TE, Houston, 6’3 250
    Keenen Brown – TE, Texas State, 6’2 250
    Matt Colburn – RB, Wake Forest, 5’10 200
    Marquise Copeland – DL, Cincinnati, 6’2 287
    Landis Durham – LB, Texas A&M, 6’3 255
    Brandon Hitner – C/OG, Villanova, 6’6 305
    Vitas Hrynkiewicz – C/OG, Youngstown State, 6’3 303
    Matt Kaskey – OT, Dartmouth, 6’7 325
    Jonathan Lloyd – WR, Duke, 6’0 190
    Natrez Patrick – LB, Georgia, 6’2 245
    Justice Powers – OL, University of Alabama at Birmingham, 6’3 300
    Troy Reeder – ILB, Delaware, 6’1 238
    Owen Roberts – DT, San Jose State, 6’2 289
    Justin Sumpter – WR, Kennesaw State, 6’1 221
    Tyrell Thompson – DT/DE, Tarleton State, 6’3 300
    Nsimba Webster – WR/KR, Eastern Washington, 5’9 176

    Okay for those keeping score at home, that’s:

    5 OL
    4 WRs
    3 TEs
    1 RB

    3 DL
    3 LBs

    Notice no corners. My guess is that that’s cause they added a bunch to the practice squad last year. So I s’pose they thought they had enough prospects there. They will probably keep 5, and 4 of those are already set with AT, MP, R-C, and Long. That leaves 5 more competing for one remaining CB spot on the 53.

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    Any more ideas/thoughts/”informal votes”? etc?

    I think a lot is going on with this draft. I think it was a deep overall general draft and that means the Rams had a lot of things fall their way.

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    from Rams UDFAs so far…UPDATED 5/1

    Justin Sumpter – WR, Kennesaw State, 6’1 221

    Out of the 19 UDFAs this is one of the few with an NFL.com write-up:

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    JUSTIN SUMPTER: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/justin-sumpter?id=32195355-4d78-1435-8af3-5171ad84fb89

    Player Bio

    While Sumpter was an All-County pick at Sandy Creek High School in Georgia, he fell through the recruiting cracks. KSU was starting a football program in 2015, so they took a chance on each other. As a freshman, Sumpter started all 11 games, leading the team in receiving and ranking sixth in the FCS with 20.2 yards per reception (26-525, four TDs). He missed three games due to injury in 2016, starting 7 of 8 games played (31-538-17.4, Big South Conference-high eight TDs). Sumpter started all 14 games in 2017 (33-610-18.5, five TDs) to earn first-team all-conference honors. He missed two games with injury again as a senior, but still was a first-team all-big South receiver after leading his squad with 21 receptions for 316 yards (15.0) and four scores in 10 games (nine starts).

    ANALYSIS

    By Lance Zierlein

    Overview

    Developmental wideout from option-based attack with very average speed (4.66 40) and quickness but intriguing ball skills and body control. He plays like a big target with the frame and strength to garner a majority of the catch space and his explosive leaping ability to makes that talent more pronounced. However, Sumpter needs early enrollment in route-running 101 as his fundamentals and knowledge are below NFL standards. He’s a late-rounder to priority free agent, but has the traits and potential that warrant cultivating.

    Strengths

    Above-average size
    Explosive tester with 39.5-inch vertical and 10-foot, 5-inch broad jump
    Play strength and foot quickness to improve against press
    Quick to locate and adjust on deep throws
    Bangs and out-muscles cornerbacks for catch positioning
    Very good body control near the boundary
    Hands are good enough
    Able to catch through contact
    Adequate extension to catch away from frame
    Wide, welcoming target on possession throws short

    Weaknesses
    Level of competition offered much smaller challengers
    Below-average speed for his size
    Unimpressive acceleration into his routes
    Relies on size and strength over savvy patterns
    Very simple route asks
    Can’t keep route intentions secret from corners
    Speed variances are random and unfocused
    Slows himself when turning to find the football rather than maintaining speed

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    Rams UDFAs so far…UPDATED 5/1

    Alex Bachman – WR/KR, Wake Forest, 5-11 195

    Kendall Blanton – TE, Missouri, 6’6″ 262

    Chandler Brewer – OG, Middle Tennessee, 6’5 311

    Romello Brooker – TE, Houston, 6’3 250

    Keenen Brown – TE, Texas State, 6’2 250

    Matt Colburn – RB, Wake Forest, 5’10 200

    Marquise Copeland – DL, Cincinnati, 6’2 287

    Landis Durham – LB, Texas A&M, 6’3 255

    Brandon Hitner – C/OG, Villanova, 6’6 305

    Vitas Hrynkiewicz – C/OG, Youngstown State, 6’3 303

    Matt Kaskey – OT, Dartmouth, 6’7 325

    Jonathan Lloyd – WR, Duke, 6’0 190

    Natrez Patrick – LB, Georgia, 6’2 245

    Justice Powers – OL, University of Alabama at Birmingham, 6’3 300

    Troy Reeder – ILB, Delaware, 6’1 238

    Owen Roberts – DT, San Jose State, 6’2 289

    Justin Sumpter – WR, Kennesaw State, 6’1 221

    Tyrell Thompson – DT/DE, Tarleton State, 6’3 300

    Nsimba Webster – WR/KR, Eastern Washington, 5’9 176

    Tryouts:

    James Davis – OG, U of Alabama at Birmingham, 6’3 305

    Lance Dunn Jr – RB, North Dakota St., 5’9 208

    Chris Gaynor – OG/C, TCU, 6’5, 290

    Layton Rabb – QB, MSU, 6’4 215

    in reply to: Rams vs Chiefs #100845
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    That was one of the Great Games. One of the best Rams games ever.

    And afterward, Goff wasn’t the same, Gurley wasn’t the same, and teams started realizing you had better do even more about Donald than people had been doing to that point.

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    Long allowed all of 18 catches on 595 coverage snaps in his entire college career

    Holey moley.

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    Wait. It gets even freakier.

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    alyoshamucci

    In 29 games, Long recorded 38 tackles, two tackles for loss, 17 passes defensed, and three interceptions.

    Long has 18 catches allowed, career. And passes defensed = 17 + 3 INTs is 20 and that is two more than “completions allowed”

    More plays on the ball than completions allowed?

    That’s a crazy stat.

    Like, I knew he was tough from watching, and then I knew he was fast from Indy … but that stat is like throwing more TDs than incompletions in a game, but stretched over your entire career.

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    Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
    The Rams’ biggest weakness in 2018 was their run defense. They upgraded it with cheaper players, which is often difficult to do

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    The plants in your article, they’re all good plants. I have a few of them myself.

    Milkweed? I had it once, it didn’t take to our climate.

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    from Steals of the 2019 NFL Draft

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-steals-of-the-2019-nfl-draft

    PICK 79 – DAVID LONG, LOS ANGELES RAMS
    Big Board Rank: 33rd
    Instead of plugging needs, the Rams had the luxury of taking some backups who will be future starters on Day 2. Long allowed only 18 catches his entire college career although he’ll have to get up to speed with any sort of off-coverage in the NFL.

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    That vid, the PFF guys. They call him a box safety. I don’t agree with that.

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    in reply to: Pick #5: Rams take Greg Gaines at 134 #100825
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    alyoshamucci

    Gaines was underrated …He reminds me of Kevin Wolfe when he came out (drafted round 2?) … bigger than expected and moving faster and more disruptively than expected.

    I expect him to have a considerable impact this year for a first year player, especially when it comes to tiring the offense. He gets better as the game goes on and if he catches you napping for a second he’ll eat your lunch. He has the motor of a LB.

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    His senior bowl is what solidified him for me…I watched a lot of Washington games … but they didn’t play any O lines I was really impressed with. I wanted to see him one on one.

    He really bothered everyone he went up against … every snap.

    And I think one thing that gets downplayed with DTs, is their endurance. Gaines never came off the field in Washington’s defense.

    What I think we’re looking at, is a guy who may not have been obvious for a higher pick, but someone who will outplay their draft slot. Possibly by a large margin.

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    Pick 79–Los Angeles Rams – CB David Long, Michigan

    David Long was our No. 33 overall player on our big board. Long is a press man coverage cornerback that is ready to play from day one. Wade Phillips loves corners who can play man coverage at a high level and the Rams got one of those players in Long.

    Fewest yards allowed per coverage snap at 0.14

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    I don’t know why he dropped.

    My guess? There were good corners in this draft, and there was a run on corners in round 2 (5 picked) and so someone was bound to slip through that, after teams who were going to take corners had all gotten their guy. It could be that he doesn’t have a lot of INTs as you suggest. I read a guru who thinks that teams may view him as scheme dependent.

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    in reply to: Anybody watching Game of Thones? #100818
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    in reply to: Rams 3rd pick, David Long, CB #100811
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    Just a few highlights from the article on Long I just posted (above).

    5th-best time in 3-cone drill since 2000

    his 20-yard shuttle time of 3.97 seconds was the best at the combine this year.

    his catch rate was just 29 percent – the lowest of any corner in the draft.

    Long allowed all of 18 catches on 595 coverage snaps in his entire college career

    Holey moley.

    If this guy falls to the 3rd round, I think the Rams should grab him.

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    4 things to know about Rams CB David Long

    4 things to know about Rams CB David Long

    5th-best time in 3-cone drill since 2000

    Long may not be a big cornerback, but he’s quicker than just about any player in the NFL. At the combine this year, he posted an eye-popping time of 6.45 seconds in the three-cone drill. That was by far the best time of any player in Indianapolis, topping the next-best prospect by 0.18 seconds. It’s also the fifth-best time dating back to 2000, which shows how great of a performance that was.

    Additionally, his 20-yard shuttle time of 3.97 seconds was the best at the combine this year. His short-area quickness is rare, to say the least.

    He’s from Los Angeles

    Long is heading back home after spending three years at Michigan. He grew up in L.A. and went to high school there, attending Loyola High School of Los Angeles – the same school Anthony Barr went to.

    Long originally committed to Stanford in 2015, but he changed his mind four months later after the U.S. Army All-American Bowl. After considering Washington, as well, Long committed to Michigan and joined Jim Harbaugh’s squad.

    At Loyola, Long was a two-way player, lining up at cornerback and wide receiver. He was the 96th-ranked recruit in the country in 2016 and the eighth-best cornerback.

    Graduated high school with 3.9 GPA

    Long wasn’t just a great player in high school, he was also a strong student. Long graduated with an impressive 3.9 GPA, showing just how smart he is in the classroom. The Rams love players who are also intelligent, as evidenced by their selection of Micah Kiser last year, a former “Academic Heisman” winner.

    Was a 2018 All-Big Ten selection

    Long had a terrific 2018 season, earning a first-team All-Big Ten selection for his play on the field. He only had one interception, but he hardly ever allowed receptions in coverage. According to Pro Football Focus, his catch rate was just 29 percent – the lowest of any corner in the draft.

    Long allowed all of 18 catches on 595 coverage snaps in his entire college career at @UMichFootball #NFLDraft

    Allowing only 18 catches on 595 coverage snaps seems like a pretty good rate and it’s part of the reason the Wolverines had an elite defense under Jim Harbaugh.

    in reply to: Tyreek Hill / Dom violence #100809
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    Older article, but a good one. Recommended read.

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    The uncomfortable reality of Tyreek Hill’s success
    Domestic violence follows the Chiefs rookie, who is pursuing a bright career.

    January 11, 2017

    link: https://theundefeated.com/features/the-uncomfortable-reality-of-tyreek-hills-success/

    ONE OF THE most jaw-dropping plays I witnessed this season happened in late November, during a Sunday night game between Kansas City and Denver. Halfway through the second quarter, the Chiefs, whose lurching offense had yet to score, sent rookie wide receiver Tyreek Hill out to return a kick. As the ball soared past the 15-yard line, Hill backpedaled, caught it and sliced across the field — then turned the corner and accelerated, leaving a throng of defenders gasping in his wake.

    After Cris Collinsworth and Mike Tirico marveled at the blink-and-you’ll-miss-it touchdown, sideline reporter Michele Tafoya appeared on screen. “Well, Mike, Tyreek was a controversial pick for the Chiefs because in 2015 he pleaded guilty to domestic abuse of his pregnant girlfriend while at Oklahoma State,” she said. The camera cut to Hill, who was breathing heavily on the bench, smiling in the way that rookies sometimes do — overjoyed, surprised and more than a little relieved.

    When Tafoya was finished, Tirico explained that when Chiefs general manager John Dorsey chose Hill, he had to have anticipated a backlash in Kansas City, where linebacker Jovan Belcher had murdered the mother of his child, Kasandra Perkins, in 2012 before committing suicide. Collinsworth pointed out that Hill’s selection might have caused some distress for Perkins’ family. “As an organization, they obviously put him through every program you can imagine, and it’s still ongoing,” Collinsworth said. “But it obviously gets into those fine lines of second chances versus maybe you don’t deserve a second chance sometimes. But they took a chance.”

    As Collinsworth spoke, he sounded calm and prepared, but the juxtaposition of images and words was undeniably jarring — a breathtaking display of the human body’s potential followed by a reminder of its terrifying capacity for misuse. When Hill appeared on screen again, it occurred to me that millions of people were asking themselves whether the Chiefs had made a grievous error. They would continue to do so as he bloomed into a bona fide star, sparking the Chiefs to the second seed in the playoffs.

    No one understands that tension better than Ray Rice. “Once you’re associated with it, you’re never getting rid of it,” he told me a few weeks later. “You’ve got to go out there and understand that.” Hill’s past, in other words, will follow him as long as the people with a vested interest in football continue to bring it up — but it isn’t clear that they will, or that they’ll do it with care.

    KANSAS CITY PICKED Hill in the fifth round of the draft, at a point when most people are no longer paying attention. And yet, the move stirred up enough debate to cause his name to trend on Twitter, which sent me down an internet rabbit hole. I learned that Hill grew up in a tiny town in Georgia, where he was raised by his grandmother, and that he ran the 200 meters in 20.14 seconds as a high school senior, which would’ve been the sixth-fastest time at the London Olympics. I learned that, after a couple of seasons at a community college, he enrolled at Oklahoma State, where he was named Big 12 Offensive Newcomer of the Year.

    I learned why he was trending on Twitter. On Dec. 11, 2014, five days after Hill had led OSU to a comeback victory over Oklahoma, he was arrested and charged with the felony of domestic abuse by strangulation.

    Like many writers who cover the NFL, I’ve grown somewhat inured to poring over the details of intimate partner violence. But Hill’s case was startling. According to a Stillwater Police Department arrest report, his girlfriend at the time, Crystal Espinal, showed up in an emergency room with cuts and bruises on her face and neck. (The officer who filed the report noted that her lip was busted, that she was wincing with pain and that the mark under her eye was turning purple as she spoke.) Espinal, who was eight weeks pregnant at the time, said Hill had grabbed her neck with his hands, pinned her against the wall and then thrown her to the ground like a “rag doll.” She told an officer that Hill had picked her up by her hair and put her in a headlock. After Espinal had screamed “I can’t breathe” several times, she alleged, he released her, then sat on top of her, punching her in the stomach.

    During her interviews, Espinal told the police that Hill had a “volatile temper” and had been physical with her before, but had never hit her — “just a lot of manhandling,” she said. Afterward, an officer went to Hill’s apartment, where he found Espinal’s ripped shirt. He also found a photo of a sonogram attached to the mirror.

    That weekend, Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy — who had visited the police department and asked to look at photos of the victim, according to the arrest report — kicked Hill off the team. “We try to stress as much as we can to these guys, there’s just certain things right now that society frowns upon,” he told reporters.

    Months went by. In January, Hill pleaded not guilty; in March, Espinal — who was still pregnant, according to reports from the courtroom — testified against him. A local news site, ocolly.com, reported that Hill had actually called 911 in November, claiming his girlfriend refused to leave his home (he did not mention any physical violence). In August, Hill, whose original lawyer had dropped his case, citing his inability to pay, pleaded guilty to domestic abuse. He signed a statement admitting he had put Espinal in a headlock during a physical fight and received a deferred prison sentence of three years. He agreed to sign up for an anger management course and a batterers program, and promised that he’d enroll in school or work a full-time job.

    In court, Hill told the judge that he regretted his actions. “I did something I shouldn’t have done,” he said. “I let my feelings take control of me.”

    HILL’S SELECTION IN the draft was met with a swift, focused backlash. Angry columns were written and solemn news conferences were held; one Kansas City radio host set up a GoFundMe page to raise money for a shelter for victims of domestic abuse. That weekend, a reporter asked Hill how he’d avoid repeating his past mistakes. “I just try to choose my friends wisely, you know what I’m saying?” he answered.

    The response sounded ill-considered and glib, and a few days later, Hill walked it back. “I don’t blame nobody but myself,” he said. He told the media he understood why some in Kansas City were distraught by his arrival. “Those guys, those fans, they have every right to be mad at me because I did something wrong and I just let my emotions get the best of me and I shouldn’t have done it. They have every right to be mad.”

    “But guess what,” he continued. “I’m going to come back and be a better man, be a better citizen, and everything will just take care of itself, and let God do the rest.”

    The week after the draft, I was asked by Outside the Lines to join a panel discussing the controversy over Hill. As I prepared for the segment, I experienced a faint sense of déjà vu; a year earlier, I had appeared on the same show to discuss the Seattle Seahawks‘ second-round pick, Frank Clark, who had also been arrested and charged with assault after allegedly hitting his girlfriend (he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge). When I reread Clark’s vague comments in the wake of the 2015 draft, it occurred to me that Hill’s apology was unusually direct — a sign of the changing times, I thought, or improved media training. Or maybe he really meant it.

    Before I went on the show, I tried to dissect my feelings of indignation. Although I was disappointed in the Chiefs for picking someone who had done what Hill had done — choked, rag doll, manhandling, pregnant — I struggled with the idea that a man who had accepted responsibility for his crime should be barred from seeking gainful employment and earning an income that would allow him to provide for his victim. Hill was a second-round talent who had dropped to the fifth round, forgoing millions in earnings. The Chiefs were being financially rewarded for their lenience. Instead of slamming the pick, I criticized the team, singling out Dorsey’s wan exhortations to “have a little bit of trust in us.”

    NFL teams are businesses that thrive when they maximize the output of their employees. When they claim to be motivated by other priorities, we have no reason to blindly trust them — just as we have no reason to trust abusers when they publicly express regret. But we can evaluate their actions. After Hill was dismissed from OSU, he landed at the University of West Alabama, where he continued to undergo court-ordered counseling and occasionally video-chatted with his victim about their child under supervision. His coach, Brett Gilliland, told me he also met with the college’s Title IX coordinator once a week. “He put all of his energy into focusing on getting better,” he said.

    In recent weeks, the Chiefs have been more forthcoming about Hill’s rehabilitation process. Dorsey has revealed that the front office interviewed his coaches and family members as well as the prosecutor who handled his case. Coach Andy Reid has publicly praised him for his work off the field. Hill recently disclosed that he’s still undergoing therapy and is providing financially for his victim and their child. (The Chiefs declined to make him available for an interview.)

    In a perverse way, the timing of his crime worked to his benefit. If he had been arrested right before the draft, he probably wouldn’t have caught on with a team; if it had happened after he signed, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell would’ve suspended him. In 2014, several months after the publication of the now-infamous video of Rice assaulting his then-fiancée, the league changed its domestic violence policy so that first-time offenders would serve a six-game suspension without pay. A second strike would trigger a lifetime ban.

    When the NFL rolled out its harsher guidelines, many league observers were impressed. I was impressed. But I’ve since changed my mind. I now think the NFL underestimated how difficult it would be to adjudicate cases without formal charges, and I’ve come to believe that a rigid punishment policy is dangerous for victims. After the Giants bungled their investigation of Josh Brown, a former kicker who was arrested and charged with domestic assault, Deadspin’s Diana Moskovitz wrote about how Brown’s ex-wife, Molly, was fearful of involving the police because she didn’t want her husband to lose his job. “What feels good and what is right, especially in cases of domestic violence, are very different things,” Moskovitz explained. “Zero-tolerance and similar get-tough penalties haven’t worked when used in the criminal justice system. Expecting them to work in sports would be, at best, naive.”

    “Often, the result is that victims won’t call or ask for help.”

    Kim Gandy, president of National Network to End Domestic Violence, on the unintended consequences of stiff penalties

    And yet, while I don’t object to Tyreek Hill finding work in the NFL, I believe that Oklahoma State was right to release him when it did. I believe that Oklahoma should’ve cut Joe Mixon from its team after he punched a female student and that Greg Hardy has no place in football. I hold these beliefs even though I agree with Moskovitz’s critical assessment of zero tolerance, and I haven’t figured out how to reconcile them.

    When I presented this quandary to Kim Gandy, the president and CEO of the National Network to End Domestic Violence, she sighed. “If any of us knew the answer to that, we’d have a Nobel Peace Prize,” she said. Gandy, like many experts in the field, believes that instead of touting its stringent policies, the NFL should make it known that it’s prioritizing the needs of survivors. She doesn’t think the league should eliminate penalties altogether, but she worries about their unintended consequences. “Often, the result is that victims won’t call or ask for help,” she says.

    The well-being of survivors matters more than the sanitization of the NFL’s brand — or the delusion that if we no longer have to look at abusers, we can enjoy our societally sanctioned violence while pretending they don’t exist. But it’s undeniable that their presence on television causes many people pain. When these men play and play well, their success creates a dilemma that continues to beguile everyone with a vested interest in football. How do we talk about them?

    ON DEC. 26, a few days after Hill made his first Pro Bowl as a return specialist, ProFootballTalk cited a source claiming that most NFL teams had taken him off their draft boards because of his record. That could be true, but Gilliland told me that representatives from all 32 teams visited his campus during Hill’s year at West Alabama. Twenty of them showed up at his pro day, where they watched him run the 40-yard dash in 4.24 seconds.

    Although NFL evaluators like to sprinkle their scouting reports with fleeting references to character issues, it’s undeniable that such concerns are inversely correlated with talent. It’s why a star like Hardy found his way into the Cowboys’ locker room after his sins were exposed but a third-stringer who makes a misstep will get tossed before most fans learn his name. In the NFL, talent is currency; it buys tolerance and, in some cases, immunity. And Hill? He has a special talent. Whenever he touches the ball, the field crackles with electricity; he doesn’t turn corners so much as he bounces around them, bending like a ray of light. He scored 12 touchdowns this season, tying the Chiefs’ rookie record, and made the AP All-Pro team as a unanimous choice.

    All of which is to say: He’s not going anywhere.

    “With Tyreek’s situation, he needs to understand there are going to be questions. There need to be men who are open about it.”

    Ray Rice

    Over the past two months, I’ve listened to my colleagues and peers struggle to talk about Hill. It feels wrong to praise him for his gifts while ignoring his flaws, but it also feels strange to intermingle talk of jet sweeps and screens with casual references to domestic violence. I co-host a fantasy football show, and I can’t imagine working the subject into our usual conversation.

    “Tyreek Hill is now averaging double-digit points on a weekly basis, making him a great flex option. And by the way: Two years ago, he pleaded guilty to domestic abuse by strangulation.”

    That doesn’t seem right, or fair. But it would be equally unfair to wipe Hill’s misdeeds from his record — to pretend he can outrun his demons as swiftly as he shoots across our television screens. Hill’s past is a permanent part of his story, and it should be mentioned every time his life and character are discussed. His efforts to redeem himself are also part of that story. Someday, they could become the most important part.

    Over the past few years, Ray Rice has become something of an advocate in the space, speaking with the Ravens and several college football teams about domestic violence. When I asked him what he thought about Hill’s story, he told me he hoped that the receiver was putting in work off the field to better himself — and that someday he’d address those efforts in public. “With Tyreek’s situation, he needs to understand there are going to be questions,” he said. “There need to be men who are open about it.”

    Rice sees Hill’s case as an opportunity to shine more light on the issue. “Why not embrace the conversation and understand what happened here?”

    It’s a lofty challenge, and one that I suspect we — Hill’s teammates, his coaches, the media, fans — will struggle to meet on most occasions. As his star rises, we’ll try to wedge his rehabilitation into a narrative about his success on the field, as though yards after catch are a metric of personal growth. We’ll minimize his crime by calling it “an incident,” then “off-the-field trouble,” then, as we do with stars such as Ben Roethlisberger, nothing at all. We’ll say, as ESPN’s own Brent Musberger did about Mixon during the Sugar Bowl, that we’re rooting for him (without mentioning his victim). We’ll get it wrong so many times.

    But every now and then, we’ll get it right, and when we do, it’ll matter. Thousands of stories like Tyreek Hill’s unfold every day, and they’re never discussed on a national stage. But on a Sunday night in November, that’s exactly what happened. For 30 seconds, Cris Collinsworth talked about domestic violence and made millions of people uncomfortable. And when the game resumed, that feeling remained.

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