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znModerator4. Demilitarization. Police depts that get more military weapons from the federal govt kill more people. You can stop that from happening through local and state policy. Montana (Red state) has gone the furthest on this. Your state can and should follow. https://t.co/floKC4GaIa
— Samuel Sinyangwe (@samswey) October 6, 2019
znModerator2. There is no evidence that better police training programs or “implicit bias” training changes police behavior. The trainings vary in quality and rarely result in any accountability/changes in decision-making. Don’t put this at the top of your agenda. Next, what works…
— Samuel Sinyangwe (@samswey) October 6, 2019
znModeratorTwo #LARams players received elite #PFF grades of 90.0+ in Thursday's game versus the #Seahawks :
Tyler Higbee (92.9) and Gerald Everett (90.3) pic.twitter.com/xG8g791oeN
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) October 6, 2019
znModeratorAnthony Miller@AMill1075
the wife of the player and the fanbase of the team who can’t go one game without mentioning the SaintsMelissa Whitworth@mrs_whit77
what I WILL say is 1.) we had a bad call 2.) we had every chance to win 3.) we aren’t filing lawsuits***
The MMQB@theMMQB
Aqib Talib, the NFL’s active leader in picks, on the declining interception rate: “The receivers are bigger and faster and the quarterbacks, the game is getting way more detailed. [DBs] have to be that much sharper.”October 5, 2019 at 6:31 pm in reply to: around the league (+ some college) tweets… 9/23 thru ? #106277
znModeratorHoly hell, D’Shawn Jamison#HookEm (via @BDavisAAS)
— Cam Mellor (@PFF_Cam) October 5, 2019
znModeratorI suppose objectively Green Bay and Dallas would be considered a good watch. I just don’t seem to be able to care enough though.
znModeratorReading nothing but stuff that supports what you want to believe is IMO the very least educational process one can undertake when it comes to a critical analysis of any issue.
W, the entire board here has rules against making it about the poster and about edging toward antagonistic exchanges. Nothing has crossed that line but let’s not even approach the line. We’re all friends here (you, me, everybody).
Given all that, though, to be fair this thread did move toward being about the argument and not the source of the article.
znModerator. The private, for-profit sector will never, ever, not ever be able to compete with a truly non-profit, public health care system on costs, value, access, coverage or outcomes.
Though to clarify, this is about universal public insurance.
A fully public health care system would include de-privatizing the world of health care providers.
Universal insurance, in itself, does not do that.
znModeratorTrying to boil this down.
I doubt many Americans think this way, but I think everyone should: Inserting profit-taking, “wealth creation,” “commodification” into every nook and cranny of our lives is beyond destructive, and in all cases, unnecessary. Especially when it comes to basic life-necessities, it’s simply irrelevant and shouldn’t even be in the discussion.
Think about it. What does a corporation’s ability to make massive profits, pay its shareholders, its executives, its lobbyists, its tax attorneys, its marketing department, its golden parachute set-asides . . . have to do with whether or not little Janie can beat cancer? What do those things add to the value of her health care? What additional costs do they force on Janie and her family?
This isn’t rocket science.
Yes as you know (but repeating it anyway to get it down in black and white) one of the many key arguments for universal health insurance is that (as has been demonstrated in the world) a public system has far lower administrative costs. There’s no costs for high CEO salaries, advetertizing, lobbying, campaign donations, and of course profit and payouts to stock holders.
This is to the tune of billions of dollars, not a dime of which goes to health care provision.
Meanwhile try finding affordable insurance for a 26 year old. Nada. He or she has to be employed for someone who does provide insurance. Which means employers suffer from these costs too.
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znModerator.@RamsNFL @AaronDonald97 seems like a nice friendly man outside of his uniform; but like all SuperHeroes he quickly transforms into a “ Party Crasher” is capable of ruining an offense all by his lonesome #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/QCouKLYvLr
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 4, 2019
znModerator.@RamsNFL #JOJONATSON is the punt returner and is highly capable of getting out of a jam. Take a look and all you men and women who might be “vertically challenged”, there is a place for you in this @NFL. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/Jqkk6XXhIi
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 4, 2019
znModerator.@RamsNFL @AaronDonald97 has added a “HOP” either vertically or horizontally to gain distance. #Fluker has no chance to stay in front of him. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/faSFjgvS7q
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 4, 2019
znModerator.@RamsNFL v @Seahawks @JaredGoff16 to @CooperKupp for the #Rams first TD of the night with the precision of a Swiss Watch Maker. Anything less will be a big INC.! #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/rh8VFPT6vD
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 4, 2019
znModeratorER’s right, W. That’s not “scholarly,” it’s the product of a dedicated right-wing think tank.
The fact that a think tank is right or left does not immunize it from a scholarly piece of work. Your response is like so many right wing responses that cast doubt on any research by left leaning scholars as simply biased because “it’s the product of a dedicated” left leaning think tank- and not to be taken seriously. Rather than look at the author’s base one might instead look at the FACTS and then argue them as opposed to the researcher’s uniform. What always gets me is the failure of the right to listen to anything the left says and the left’s unwillingness to listen to anything the right says.
W “scholarly” means peer-reviewed. “Think tank” means paid for, with a pre-determined argument regardless of facts.
Go find and post a well-researched scholarly article in favor of public insurance or its equivalent and I will believe you when you say you’re neutral and balanced on this issue.
znModeratorFrom a public health perspective, what is the biggest preventable cause of cancer?
October 5, 2019 at 12:49 pm in reply to: around the league (+ some college) tweets… 9/23 thru ? #106242
znModeratorKyle Shanahan and his run blocking schemes are absolutely beautiful as highlighted here by @gregcosell
— ourSF49ers (@OSf49ers) October 5, 2019
October 5, 2019 at 12:32 pm in reply to: around the league (+ some college) tweets… 9/23 thru ? #106241
znModeratorKICK VONTAZE BURFICT OUT FOREVER!!! pic.twitter.com/91IQghasuf
— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) September 29, 2019
znModeratorFinal thought on Seattle.
If your eyes told you that was…Goff’s best performance: it was
Whit’s best game: it was
Noteboom’s best showing: yes
Allen’s: close (Week 2)
Blythe’s: close (Week 1)
Havenstein’s: yep
Everett’s: by a mile
Higbee’s: far & away*using 2019 PFF grades
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) October 5, 2019
znModeratorER’s right, W. That’s not “scholarly,” it’s the product of a dedicated right-wing think tank.
znModeratorThis might be the sickest play I’ve ever seen by a DL. To sit off the snap, spill the puller, then stop & change directions to make a tackle for loss is something humans aren’t supposed to be able to do. https://t.co/MIVA3ZFbGV
— Erik Beimfohr (@erikbeimfohr) October 4, 2019
znModeratorfrom PFF ReFocused: Seattle Seahawks 30, Los Angeles Rams 29
https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-week-5-pff-refocused-seattle-seahawks-30-los-angeles-rams-29
LOS ANGELES RAMS
Jared Goff was mostly on target outside of a few dangerous throws. Despite being under pressure for a good part of the night, he still managed to deliver some darts and did a good job moving the Rams’ offense down the field and would have had a game-winning drive if not for a missed field goal by Greg Zuerlein.
Todd Gurley finally got on track in the first half with a number of agile runs where he made tacklers miss and rumbled his way to a number of first downs and a couple of touchdowns before being shut down in the second half when the Rams decided to go pass-heavy.
Aaron Donald didn’t log a sack on the night, but he was still a factor as a pass-rusher and against the run. Donald pressured Wilson repeatedly when he rushed the passer. In the first quarter, the Seahawks ran a trap play hoping to catch Donald out of position to make a stop, but he beat the trap block with quickness and made a tackle for loss.
Clay Matthews sacked Wilson on a stunt in the third quarter. Marcus Peters broke up the crossing route that Wilson was trying to complete to Metcalf four a fourth-quarter two-point conversion.
Rookie Takeaways
Undrafted free agent linebacker Troy Reeder really struggled in this one. He was a liability in coverage and failed to add much above expectation in run defense across more than 50 defensive snaps.
znModerator6 takeaways from the Rams’ 30-29 loss in Seattle
Steve Rebeiro
6 takeaways from the Rams' 30-29 loss in Seattle
The Los Angeles Rams suffered a heart-breaking defeat at the hands of division-rival Seattle Thursday night. When the game is decided by one point, the mistakes sting a bit deeper. Here are six takeaways, both positive and negative, from the Rams’ gut-wrenching Week 5 loss to the Seahawks.
Mistakes, Mistakes, Mistakes
The Rams ended the game by missing a 44-yard field goal. It’s a kick that Greg Zuerlein almost always makes. It was the icing on the cake for a game marred by Rams mistakes.
The good news is that the Rams played much better this week than they did against Tampa Bay in Week 4. The bad news is that they still lost the game, and are currently in third place in a tough division. Worst of all, the loss could have easily been avoided if not for a handful of crucial mistakes.
Missed tackles were a major factor in Seattle’s offensive success. Chris Carson and Russell Wilson were bouncing off tacklers all game. It felt like anytime a Seattle runner took off he’d break a tackle or two. Pee-wee football coaches everywhere watching this game were losing their minds about tackling form and wrapping up.
There were dropped passes, including Gerald Everett’s that resulted in an interception. There were plenty of missed throws from Goff. There were missed blocks by the offensive lineman and a few crucial mental errors to boot. Clay Matthews was called for roughing the passer late in the game, albeit a very questionable roughing the passer call. Brian Allen forgot to snap the ball with 20 seconds remaining in the football game. Even Todd Gurley fumbled for the first time in roughly 20 games.Clean up a few crucial mistakes and this game doesn’t comedown to a last-second field goal. The Rams should have walked out of Seattle with a fourth straight victory against the Seahawks. That only makes the loss tougher to swallow.
McVay moves away from Gurley/Brown split
Through the first four games of the season, the Rams substitute Gurley for Malcolm Brown on a few drives each game. McVay opted to give each running back full drives rather than swap Gurley out for Brown mid-drive.
That wasn’t the case on Thursday night. For the first time all year, Gurley trotted onto the field for the first play of every single drive, and he barely came out. Brown received just one carry on the day.
It remains clear if this strategy will continue moving forward, but in Week 5 the Rams were not concerned with conserving Todd Gurley. He played nearly the entire game. Even though his touches and yards are down overall, Gurley has continued to show a knack for finding the end zone when given red zone touches, and scored two more touchdowns against Seattle.
The Rams offense was better as a result of keeping Gurley on the field. We’ll see if McVay is willing to stick with it against San Francisco next week.
Pass rush pressures Wilson, but can’t close the deal
Aaron Donald and the Rams pass rush were in Russell Wilson’s face all game long. Somehow, they only came away with one sack.
The Rams pass rush did a solid job of getting Wilson out of the pocket all night. Unfortunately, they were chasing after Russell Wilson. The six-time Pro Bowler had one hell of a game against the Rams, and some of his best throws came from outside the pocket. He went 17 for 23 with 268 yards, four touchdowns, and no turnovers. He added 32 rushing yards on eight carries.
Both the Rams and Wilson deserve credit for the lack of sacks. The Rams could not wrap up and bring down Wilson whatsoever. If somebody told me that Wilson doused his jersey in crisco oil before the game, I might actually believe them. That’s how insane some of Wilson’s missed tackles were. Credit goes to Wilson for evading pressure and looking phenomenal when rolling out of the pocket, but the Rams need to finish on these tackles. They should not be coming out of this game with one sack.
Gerald Everett’s career day marred by crucial mistake
Gerald Everett had one hell of a game on Thursday Night Football. The third-year tight end shattered just about every one of his career highs. He finished the night with seven receptions for 136 yards on 11 targets. All three are career highs. Everett should have added a touchdown to his stat-line, but was called down on the one yard line and the Rams chose not to challenge it. He looked unstoppable running the football after the catch.
Unfortunately for Everett and the Rams, he dropped a pass at the worst possible time. With just over 2:00 remaining in the fourth quarter, Goff tossed a perfect pass to Everett over the middle for a first down. The ball went right through Everett’s hands. Somehow, Seattle safety Tedric Thompson was able to get his hands on the tipped ball and corral it for an interception.
The play almost the Rams the football game. Luckily, the defense was able to produce a three-and-out, and Everett had a shot at redemption. He recorded three receptions for 46 yards on the final drive of the game. Had Zuerlein made the game-winning field goal, Everett’s game would have been remembered for one of perseverance. With the loss, the dropped pass stings a bit more.
Goff not perfect, but trending in the right direction
It was an up-and-down game for Jared Goff on Thursday night. He made some miraculous throws against the Seahawks and he missed some that he’d certainly like to have back. This season, the misses outweighed the hits. Tonight, it felt like the opposite.
Goff didn’t have the best game of his career, but it’s hard to walk away feeling anything but positive when it comes to the fourth-year quarterback. Goff never backed down when things didn’t go right and fought to the very last breathe. He made strike after strike on the final drive to give the Rams a shot at a victory. When the offensive line got flagged for mental mistakes, Goff rebounded to keep those respective drives alive.
Rams fans will never have to worry about Goff not trying. Through the good and the bad, this guy has given it everything he’s got this season. The loss against Seattle was a step in the right direction for Goff. Let’s hope he takes another in a victory next Sunday.
It’s going to be a stressful season
The 2019 Los Angeles Rams are a good football team. As of October 4th, they are not a great football team. This is a team that should be playing come January. But it might not be as much of a cake-walk to the playoffs as it was last season.
The NFC West is as tough as it’s been in years. Seattle is still Seattle, and the 49ers are currently undefeated and will be a factor in this division. The Rams are going to have their hands full with two of their three division rivals. With the way they are currently playing, even Arizona doesn’t feel like a walk in the park.
Still, this is a team loaded with talent and a front office who hasn’t been afraid to make trades to improve the team mid-season. They should figure this thing out. They were on the verge of it against Seattle. The Rams have proven that they’re still a good team. But if they want to return to the greatness they achieved last year, they’ve got a lot of work to do.
znModeratorTexasRam
I review each game and can tell you with 100 percent certainty that Allen has grown leaps and bounds from week 1. He is playing lights out. I was hugely critical of Kromer going with Allen before the season but am eating my words. He has been excellent. Did he screw up on the false start? yes. That doesn’t make him a bad player.
Our tackles have struggled in the last games and in this game had some more penalties that hurt. But how much did you hear from Clowney and Ansah last night? Nothing.
Blythe and Noteboom gave Goff excellent protection last night which was a great improvement over Tampa.
The greatest positive i take from the game is the Oline is starting to gel and Mcvay is finding ways to help Havenstein on the edge with the chipping and the screens.
znModeratorLMU93
Do you know what the Rams’ record under McVay was in games decided by 6 or fewer points coming into last night? 11-1. Eleven. And. One. The one loss being that Seattle game in LA in early 2017 when Kupp couldn’t quite haul in the late TD pass.
This is the NFL. You’re just not going to win all the close ones. If you win 60% of the close ones you’re in good shape. The Rams have won 85% of the close ones under McVay.
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimesklein
McVay: “It’s been a humbling last week…. When you sit back and think about the amount of plays that occurred and then for it to come down to one play, whether you’re feeling pretty good or whether you’re feeling like, ‘Man, this is a little bit of a gut-check time for us.’”Steve Mason@VeniceMase
Devastating loss for the #Rams…losing on a 44-yard missed field goal.But @LindseyThiry agrees with me. That was the best overall #Rams performance of the season. It was also Jared Goff’s best game of the year. I’m more optimistic today than I was after the Tampa loss.
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
LB Samson Ebukam will step up in Matthews’ place.McVay said he thinks Matthews got kicked in the jaw by Carson.
October 4, 2019 at 8:08 pm in reply to: around the league (+ some college) tweets… 9/23 thru ? #106220
znModeratorY'all be careful out here. My homie had 2 Redskins tickets on the console they broke in his car and left 4 more. pic.twitter.com/8PTKxsuuNc
— Brad Flowers (@Brandonnnnn69) October 4, 2019
znModeratorThat tight end that go overpaid on the #Rams is now graded 4th in the league per #PFF. pic.twitter.com/pcpIoyuGX9
— DOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR] (@DowntownRams) October 4, 2019
znModerator.@RamsNFL #AndrewWhitworth can still really run at whatever his ageless body is. Remarkable player for 1 1/2 decades in the trenches. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/SsAwGkjvbP
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 4, 2019
October 4, 2019 at 6:19 pm in reply to: around the league (+ some college) tweets… 9/23 thru ? #106213
znModeratorFrank Gore is a master craftsman. Elite footwork, awareness and processing allow him to manipulate defenders by pressing gaps he has no intention of attacking. As seen here, he even does it on gap-style runs, where there is less room for improvisation. pic.twitter.com/TTFCnIJyJ8
— J Moyer (@JMoyerFB) October 4, 2019
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