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September 15, 2019 at 7:45 pm in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105090
znModeratorSean Payton's feelings, on repeat
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znModeratorRussell Wilson: QB1 and … lead blocker đ#SEAvsPIT (via @thecheckdown) pic.twitter.com/HWxsXw3KAu
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znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
This means rookie DT Greg Gaines is active for today’s game against the Saints. #LARams
znModeratorKurt Warner@kurt13warner
Before my timeline fills up with History buffs telling me it wasnât the Germans who bombed Pearl Harbor… this I already know, it was a line from âAnimal Houseâ – thought more of u would get it!!
znModeratorRich Eisen@richeisen
The Vikings just had a touchdown taken away by replay booth on a scoring play for offensive pass interference. Thatâs a first.Tony Dungy@TonyDungy
These Pass Interference reviews by NFL officiating are not making any sense. Clear DPIs last week not overturned. Clear push off by Antonio Brown does not get overturned but Minnesota TD pass gets called back due to blocking downfield. Not sure what the standard is right now.ProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
Biggest unintended consequence of the new PI process: OPI has been called twice in two weeks by replay review based on downfield blocking by an offensive player.Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
The #Patriots have already declared starting LT Isaiah Wynn (foot) to be out vs the #Dolphins. Always a bad sign to do it so quickly.
znModeratorGeoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
The Cardinals defense is so bad. đ. 3rd n 17 and they play a prevent defense which allows the Ravens to run a TE up the seam for a first down. đ. Looks like a Big 12 defenseJeff Howe@jeffphowe
Tom Brady just got hit after backup left tackle Marshall Newhouse got beat. Newhouse started at right tackle for Marcus Cannon. Joe Thuney got shaken up earlier. Wynn is in the locker room. Karras just got called for holding. James Develin is in the medical tent. This is dicey.
znModeratorSeattleRams@seattlerams_nfl
Russell Wilson has been sacked three times on two possessions… The talked about improvement of their OL is looking to be greatly exaggerated.trey wingo@wingoz
Man that Lamar Jackson can really throw for a running back. They should SERIOUSLY think about making him a QB full time
znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Rams and Chargersâ new 20-year naming rights deal to become SoFi Stadium was negotiated by Legends, which is owned by Jerry Jones, and it is expected to be the largest naming-rights deal in the NFL, passing the Cowboysâ AT&T deal.
znModeratorCurious about who won the tractor race that apparently was held at the Coliseum this week. pic.twitter.com/XvTjEPBRqE
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) September 15, 2019
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimesklein
Lost in the controversy and the Rams’ game-winning drive in overtime in NFC title game, was the coming-of-age drive for Sean McVay, Jared Goff and others at the end of regulation.Pat Kirwan@PatKirwan_NFL
Looks like 8 teams will play without their starting left tackle this week. As one GM said to me âThere arenât 32 guys on the planet that can play left tackle wellâ Could be a rough day for quarterbacks!
znModeratorForgotten drive: The Rams forced OT after non-call versus the Saints in NFC title game
The Rams coach paced the sideline and scanned his play sheet. He covered his mouth and barked instructions into his headset. Facing the biggest drive of his coaching career, his mind raced.
All last season, the Rams seemed destined for the Super Bowl. But in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter in the NFC championship game, their offense took the field trailing by three points. Their season teetered on the brink.
On the opposite sideline, Sean Payton was still furious. As the Rams drove into field-goal range, the New Orleans Saints coach berated the referees. Step for step, he stayed in their ears. He was far from over their monumental mistake. A possession earlier, Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman was infamously not flagged for pass interference, the dubious turning point that will forever be tagged to the Ramsâ 26-23 overtime win.
But before historyâs sliding doors slammed shut, the Rams still needed to at least get into field-goal range. They still needed to execute the nine-play, 45-yard drive that marked a coming of age for coach Sean McVay and quarterback Jared Goff but went overlooked in the gameâs controversial aftermath.
This week, ahead of their rematch Sunday with the Saints, the key members of that drive happily relived the memory of that sometimes overlooked possession.
âIt,â a grinning McVay said, âwas a blur.â
1:41 remaining, 1st-and-10 at the Ramsâ 25: At the start of the potential career-defining drive, Goff tried to deliver a rousing speech in the huddle. His mindset was simple:
âJust tried to go out there and execute,â he said.
But in the middle of a rollicking Mercedes-Benz Superdome, his words fell on deaf ears.
âCouldnât hear him anyway,â offensive lineman Rob Havenstein laughed. âPlace was … loud.â
It only got louder after the first play. The Saints blitzed. Goff fired a pass over the middle. Receiver Josh Reynolds let the ball slip through his hands.
1:37 remaining, 2nd-and-10 at the Ramsâ 25: Under normal circumstances, Reynolds wouldnât have been on the field in crunch time. He had been bumped to a starting role in November after slot receiver Cooper Kupp suffered a knee injury.
But even after his first-down drop, Reynolds was targeted again. The lone receiver on the right side of the formation ran 10 yards before breaking toward the middle. His route found a soft spot against zone coverage. Goff threaded a 19-yard completion.
âThat was a good play to get us rolling,â Reynolds said. âAfter that, we were in the two-minute offense. We were getting the defense gassed.â
1:16 remaining, 1st-and-10 at the Ramsâ 44: Goff overthrew a corner route to tight end Gerald Everett, but the Rams special teams unit already was getting loose on the sideline. Veteran kicker Greg Zuerlein booted practice kicks into a net, and long-snapper Jake McQuaide fired rehearsal reps to holder Johnny Hekker.
âWith Gregâs range,â McQuaide said, âanytime you get around the 50, itâs like, âThis is a field goal.â â
1:12 remaining, 2nd-and-10 at the Ramsâ 44: Goff settled for a short seven-yard pass to receiver Brandin Cooks over the middle. As described by passing game coordinator Shane Waldron, the two-minute drill is like âgoing off a big menu of plays.â Instead of trying to take one big bite out of a stingy Saints secondary, the Rams feasted on smaller portions of steady yards as they inched down the field.
âYouâre going off of, really, a feel â and thatâs where he does a great job,â Waldron said of McVay. âYou prepare throughout the week for what you anticipate seeing in those situations. Quarterback is doing the same thing, what heâs anticipating seeing in those.â
53 seconds remaining, 3rd-and-3 at the Saintsâ 49: The moment Robert Woods lined up, he saw the opportunity for a big play. The Rams had called an âoption route,â said Woods, who recognized the Saints were in man coverage. On the snap, he crossed paths with Cooks, cut inside his defender, and burst up the middle. His path to the end zone was clear.
Goffâs throw was a half-step behind, but Woods caught it for a 16-yard gain to put the Rams in field goal range. But, he also tumbled to the turf.
âWish I would have stayed on my feet,â he said, âand put the game away.â
45 seconds remaining, 1st-and-10 at the Saintsâ 33: After a timeout, the Rams settled for a short three-yard check-down pass from Goff to running back Todd Gurley, who advanced the ball to the Saintsâ 30. Goffâs next two passes, fell incomplete.
âI really wanted to score a touchdown,â said Goff, who completed four of eight passes on the drive for 45 yards. âI wanted to go down there and punch one in and finish the game.â
Instead, facing fourth down, Zuerlein came trotting onto the field.
19 seconds remaining, 4th-and-7 at the Saintsâ 30: Once the Rams field goal unit was set, Payton burned a timeout. Zuerlein went back to the sideline and tried not to dwell over the most important kick of his career.
âJust think about your technique,â Zuerlein said. âSame with any other kick.â
Of course, it wasnât any other kick. Their season was coming down to one play.
âItâs almost better,â Woods said of the pressure. âYou donât have much time to think. Youâre just going.â
McQuaide snapped the ball from just right of center. Hekker got a clean hold. From 48 yards out, the ball jumped off Zuerleinâs foot.
âIt was a no-doubter,â McQuaide said.
The Superdome fell silent as the kick split the uprights. The Ramsâ celebration was also muted since the three points only tied the game. It wasnât until overtime, when the Rams intercepted a Drew Brees pass and Zuerlein connected again from 57 yards, that they won.
âIt was a bunch of big-time, crunch-time throws,â McVay said, adding: âAll 11 being on the same page, thatâs a stressful environment that our players handled really well.â
After Zuerleinâs game-tying kick, Woods felt the momentum turn for good.
âFrom that point, it was like game over,â Woods said. âIt deflated them.â
znModerator"This controversial call is masking the truth…New Orleans was not a good football team at the end of last year."@ColinCowherd's thoughts on #NOvsLAR todayâŹď¸âŹď¸âŹď¸ pic.twitter.com/mrUj3VOfYi
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September 15, 2019 at 12:07 pm in reply to: Does being a contender alter early season game plans? #105070
znModeratorIf memory serves, the Pats didnât show the defense they used in the Super Bowl until the Super Bowl.
That’s because that D was specifically concocted to handle the Rams. It’s a case of give BB 2 weeks to game plan, and you will get something you have not seen before that was specifically crafted to beat the other team.
Same thing happened in the last Rams/Patz superbowl. What the Martz Rams got was nothing like what they expected.
So that’s not really a case of BB holding anything back during the season. He was just inventing something new. If they had played a different team in the superbowl with different strengths and weaknesses, we would have seen an entirely different defense from BB.
BTW it was the same with the Rams D. They did not play their regular D and instead relied heavily on subpackages to constantly disrupt what the Patz were doing.
In terms of the Rams, I like the idea that an offense is so adapatable that it can morph with the season.
znModeratorEvan Silva@evansilva
#Rans RB Malcolm Brown is âemerging as their goal-line backâ & âgoing to continue, Iâm told, to be a fantasy vulture for Todd Gurley.â—
It is going to be đĽđĽđĽon the field in a few hours when the Saints come to face the Rams at the Coliseum. No matter what coaches and players from both teams said this week, theyâre still in their feelings about the NFC Championship result. Letâs get it on. pic.twitter.com/hzRD2H0q8S
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) September 15, 2019
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znModeratorHey @SageRosenfels18, who did it better? You or this guy? pic.twitter.com/natyiFqJ9t
— Brett Kane (@BrettKaneRadio) September 14, 2019
znModeratorWeek 2 Daily fantasy picks: Fades and players to avoidhttps://t.co/edbNLBijCE
PFF Fantasy's @danieltkelley picks out the players to stay away from in DFS in Week 2. pic.twitter.com/1mrD9wmF47
— PFF (@PFF) September 15, 2019
znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheet
#Patriots WR Antonio Brownâs accuser is expected to meet with the NFL tomorrow, as the league will fast-track its investigation into sexual assault against him.Judy Battista@judybattista
In this story, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001054378/article/antonio-browns-accuser-to-meet-with-nfl-monday @rapsheet reports that had Patriots known of rape and sexual assault allegations against Brown, owner Robert Kraft would not have signed off on the deal.Geoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
we all know how this ends. AB will be suspended.
znModeratorSaints at Rams: Final score prediction for Week 2 game
So who comes out on top? This is one of the toughest games to pick. The Saints have the offensive playmakers and scheme to beat the Rams. We saw them do it in Week 9 last season. The Rams, on the other hand, have a great secondary when healthy. They held Thomas to just four catches and 36 yards in the NFC championship.
znModeratorWeek 2 is upon us. Itâs time to pick the @NFL Game of the Week. You know I had to go with the NFC Championship rematch featuring my @RamsNFL and the @Saints. Tweet along with me tomorrow! pic.twitter.com/10ZQTYhasN
— Steven Jackson (@sj39) September 15, 2019
znModeratorQuick reminder pic.twitter.com/1EHr9QvarV
— Barron Becker (@Barronstl) September 14, 2019
znModeratorDonât know who this guy is but this automatically makes him TE1 https://t.co/agqXHzcmkp
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) September 15, 2019
znModeratorâThe locker room has really been boppinâ this weekâ: Saints, Rams ready to write next chapter
Vincent Bonsignore and Katherine Terrell
Itâs revenge week for the Saints and Rams! Sort of.
The Saints will travel to face the Rams in Week 2 after months of hearing about their loss to that particular team in the NFC Championship Game. You think the fans are ready to move on from the infamous âNo-Call?â The players have been ready for weeks.
Revenge or no revenge, thereâs a healthy dose of respect between these two teams. They both know itâs a good bet that they could be the last teams standing again if all goes well.
Hereâs what Rams writer Vincent Bonsignore, Saints writer Katherine Terrell and New Orleans columnist Larry Holder had to say about the matchup in Los Angeles this Sunday:
Whatâs the mood in the locker room like this week? Do you get the sense the players have been looking forward to this game?
Bonsignore: I was at the facility late into Thursday night, and an assistant coach popped into the media room, saw me working and asked: âGetting ready for the Super Bowl on Sunday?â I kidded with him that âitâs just another game.â His response was telling and honest. âNah. This is a big one. And thatâs cool. Actually, itâs great. For us and for them and for the fans for the league. This is a big game. And thatâs what itâs all about.â
I guess thatâs a roundabout way of saying the locker room has really been boppinâ this week. The combination of the home opener and it being against the Saints and all the history and drama and ramifications and challenges that presents, there is no doubt the Rams have been bouncing around the facility all week. I think the Rams always do a good job of respecting each weekâs challenge, but also of not shying away when, hey, there is some extra juice going on this particular week. So yes, I totally get the sense there is great anticipation for the Saints coming to town.
Terrell: It was like pulling teeth to get some of the players to discuss the last meeting. Terron Armstead joked that he had a meeting (then talked anyway), Cam Jordan said he couldnât remember anything from last year, and Larry Warford said heâs sick of talking about it. They all adamantly said they see it as any other game. I donât think thatâs quite true, but I do get the sense itâs not a ârevenge against the Ramsâ game.
The Rams just happened to be the team they were playing when they lost in the NFC Championship Game. I think the Saints would love it if they could move past the narrative. But it doesnât mean they arenât taking this game seriously. I think secretly, itâs been one theyâve looked forward to for a while. If nothing else, as Brees pointed out, they know the Rams are capable of making a playoff run. They had nothing but high praise for them and I think theyâre as ready as theyâll ever be.
Holder: My sense is that many of the players canât wait for this week to be over and done with. Theyâve turned on the TV for nine months and the NOLA No Call regularly splashed across their screens. Guard Larry Warford said heâs personally sick of the questions surrounding the play and whether or not this team will rebound from the officiating blunder in last yearâs NFC Championship game. Brees didnât necessarily say itâs beneficial for the Saints to play the Rams in Week 2 to move past this storyline, but he recognized how the Minneapolis Miracle narrative calmed down dramatically after New Orleans beat Minnesota in 2018.
Whatâs the biggest concern going forward for each team?
Bonsignore: Well, I think for the Rams itâs making sure an offensive line with new starters in Joe Noteboom and left guard and Brian Allen at center maintains a certain level of play, as everything they do offensively relies on plays getting blocked and protected. And as Jared Goff and Todd Gurleyâs stats prove, they are just more effective when the line is doing its job. I think if that is happening consistently, the Rams will be in good shape.
Terrell: The defense. Obviously you canât overreact too much from one game, but Deshaun Watson was gashing the Saints secondary despite being consistently hit by the Saints pass rush. Thatâs not to mention the struggles containing the run. The good news? The Saints will have defensive tackle David Onyemata back from suspension. Thatâs a huge plus for them. You would have to think the run defense is going to improve on that note alone.
Holder: Iâm wondering about the Saints run defense. I didnât expect the Texans to run the ball as well as they did in Week 1 with backs like Duke Johnson and Carlos Hyde. The questions still linger around Gurley but performed well in limited carries against Carolina. And the Saints will have David Onyemata back after serving a one-game suspension. That will help at defensive tackle. This spot will improve even further once Sheldon Rankins and Mario Edwards return to the lineup.
Whatâs the key matchup in this game?
Bonsignore: The Rams have to get heat on Brees. They donât necessarily have to get him to the ground, but they definitely need to make life difficult, force him off his preferred spots, get bodies in his face to disrupt his rhythm and vision. So winning that battle up front, and generating pressure both inside and outside, will be hugely important.
Terrell: The Saints run defense vs. Gurley and the Rams. The Saints allowed Hyde and Johnson and Watson to run for 180 yards. Now theyâre facing one of the best running backs in the NFL. Every team always preaches stopping the run and thatâs what the Saints need to do: Make them throw (not that Jared Goff is some slouch).
Holder: Michael Thomas absolutely torched Marcus Peters in the Week 9 matchup last season. Los Angeles altered its strategy in the NFC title game having Peters, Aqib Talib and Nickell Robey-Coleman simply remain in their spots in the Rams secondary. Thomas struggled for more with that game plan. It will be interesting to watch how the Rams handle Thomas on Sunday.
Who do you think will be the happiest to have the âNo-Callâ behind them once and for all? You can include yourself in this if youâd like.
Bonsignore: The Rams have never sweated the No-Call, and in talking to Robey-Coleman and some others about it, I think itâs because they were honest and upfront about the whole thing from the jump. Nickell never disputed it was a pass interference. Sean McVay this week said no one in his locker room would ever dispute it was a missed call. Others have echoed the same sentiment. In doing so â and I think itâs the key to the whole thing â itâs enabled them to say: âHey, we benefited from that one. But it also didnât control what happened immediately afterward, and that was our ability to just move on to the next play.â And I think thatâs one of their sneaky great qualities â good or bad, positive or negative, they are always in the present and looking ahead to the immediate future. So in that respect, the No-Call is already behind them. And pretty much has been as soon as it happened. And as crazy as this might seem, I think it would have been exactly the same had the call gone against them.
Terrell: Somewhere, Tommylee Lewis is smiling and praying everyone just stops talking about this. Everyone seems thankful the game is Week 2 and we can all get on with our lives. Iâm going to go with the fans: Theyâve been holding on to this grudge for months. Letting it go will be cathartic, and if the Saints win, trust me, the party in New Orleans will be bigger than normal.
Holder: Judges? The NFLâs legal team? Al Riveron? The Who Dats? The truth is that the Saints players and organization will never completely have that storyline behind them. Heck, Marcus Williams probably doesnât mind the No Call sticking around since it takes the heat off the Minneapolis Miracle.
Who wins and why?
Bonsignore: I like the Rams at the Coliseum, in their season opener, on a stage they look forward to operating on against an opponent that undoubtedly grabs their attention in a major way. Itâs going to be a big-time show, and Iâm looking at 35-28.
Terrell: Iâm picking the Saints against my better judgment. I donât know why, because I feel like both teams are fairly equally matched, but I just think theyâve been holding on to this for so long that theyâll be primed and ready. Thereâs going to be a lot of scoring, but I think the Saints can outscore the Rams, 27-24.
Holder: This is a toss-up game. Wouldnât matter if this was being played in the Superdome or the Coliseum. Each team would give the other a battle anywhere. Iâm going to say Rams 34, Saints 31.
znModeratorGregg Rosenthal
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001053896/article/nfl-week-2-game-picks-rams-down-saints-packers-top-vikingsLos Angeles Rams 26, New Orleans Saints 20
The Rams’ win over the Saints in November 2017 legitimized Sean McVay’s upstart Rams. The Saints’ win over the undefeated Rams in November 2018 paved the way for New Orleans to gain home-field advantage in the playoffs, which they squandered in an NFC Championship Game in January 2019 that changed the NFL rulebook. The disastrous no-call distracted from the reality of Drew Brees’ back-breaking overtime interception and Jared Goff’s incredible second-half performance. Sean-Off IV has lower stakes, a palate cleanser intended to wipe away traces of all those storylines
It’s hard to find big edges for either team in this matchup, but Saints defensive tackle David Onyemata’s return from suspension may not be enough to stymie Los Angeles’ resurgent running game. If the Saints struggled to stop Carlos Hyde and Duke Johnson at home, then slowing Todd Gurley and Malcolm Brown on the road will be a big ask. McVay, meanwhile, should be concerned with how poorly Goff’s pass protection held up last week, considering Cameron Jordan, Marcus Davenport and breakout candidate Trey Hendrickson are coming to town. The only surprise in this game would be a blowout, and it wouldn’t be a surprise if Sean-Off V were to happen in January 2020, this time in the Los Angeles winter.
znModerator— Steve Wyche
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001054145/article/steelers-confidence-sammy-watkins-revival-rams-rustinessLOS ANGELES RAMS: Shaking off the rust on the field. The Rams didn’t play starters and key rotational players in preseason games. Head coach Sean McVay said the lack of game action showed up some in the team’s season-opening victory over the Panthers.
Running back Todd Gurley, for instance, ran five times for 8 yards in the first half and nine times for 89 yards in the second. In speaking about Gurley’s enhanced production as the game wore on, McVay said: “It’s like anything else, and it’s not exclusive to Todd. It’s our team getting in football shape. Especially when you look at the approach that we took, playing the amount of snaps that we did in that kind of weather. I thought that was a great first opportunity for us to kind of get ourselves into game shape.”
The Rams, by the way, scored 30 points while getting into game shape.
znModeratorSaints at Rams: 4 biggest storylines for Week 2 https://t.co/WMeNW0GN4Y
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) September 14, 2019
znModeratorNFL Week 2 picks: Who the experts are taking in Saints vs. Rams
According to NFL Pick Watch https://nflpickwatch.com/ 69 percent of experts are picking the Rams to win straight-up. Thatâs a significant amount, but itâs not as high of a number as some other games. Including Thursday nightâs game, there were five contests where 99% or 100% of experts picked one team.
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