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October 21, 2019 at 11:38 pm #107129
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
In 7 games the Bengals have rushed for 372 yards.
They’ve allowed 1,323 yards rushing.You will not be surprised to learn that those figures are both last in the NFL.
October 23, 2019 at 12:33 pm #107196
znModeratorAndrew Whitworth has wins against 31 of the 32 NFL teams. On Sunday, he'll try to make it 32 of 32
Things to know for Rams-Bengals https://t.co/Y54vzcwbya
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) October 23, 2019
October 24, 2019 at 2:16 am #107224
znModeratorWeek 8 PFF Preview
Cincinnati Bengals @ Los Angeles Rams
Players to Watch
There aren’t a lot of positives to highlight when discussing the winless Bengals. According to PFF’s team-level grades available in Premium Stats, Cincinnati ranks 26th in run-blocking grade, 31st in pass-blocking grade and 27th in total offense. Defensively, the team ranks outside the top-20 in defense grade, pass-rush grade and coverage grade.
Surprising no one, Rams’ Aaron Donald leads all defenders with 140 or more pass-rush snaps in PFF pass-rush grade (91.4) through Week 7. Recording 34 total pressures across 225 pass-rush snaps, Donald also ranks third among the same group of qualifiers in pass-rush win rate (23.1%) and 16th in pressure percentage (15.1%).
Fantasy Football Preview
The Rams’ fearsome receiver corps hasn’t been quite so fearsome of late, but tight end Gerald Everett has picked up the slack. Everett is the No. 2 PPR tight end over the last four weeks, sitting third in yards and tied for first in touchdowns in that span. Most importantly, Everett is breaking tackles at a record rate, with his 0.46 forced missed tackles per reception more than double the next-best qualifying tight end (George Kittle, 0.21).
Betting Preview
The second-largest spread in Week 8 has actually dropped slightly from an opening two-touchdown differential. The Bengals are the worst team in the NFL according to our ELO metric and have the fourth-worst offense, as well. With a total out to 48.5, the expectation is that the Rams are not able to make up enough of the difference for Cincinnati’s pathetic offensive output to get over this number.
October 24, 2019 at 9:45 am #107232
znModeratorThe Bengals deserve the disaster artist known as Jim Turner
Like it or not, the Bengals’ calamitous 2019 season has been heavily influenced by their infamous offensive line coach.Some of you will hate me for this. I’d imagine most of you already do. I frankly don’t care. Rip me a new one in the comments section. Email me your hate, I could always use a good laugh.
Jim Turner is bad, and he was always bad.
From the minute he was hired as the Bengals’ offensive line coach, Jim Turner was a bad hire. When he was suspended by Texas A&M for being sexist at a football clinic, Jim Turner was bad. When he was fired by the Miami Dolphins for partaking in and allowing “BullyGate”, which ultimately led to a three-year stretch of unemployment, Jim Turner was bad. When he failed to put together a quality line in Miami and similarly failed to develop quality players at Texas A&M when he was first with the program from 2008-2011, Jim Turner was undoubtedly, and undeniably, bad.
None of this mattered for Zac Taylor and the Bengals when they hired him in February, and his reputation has worsened more than it’s been enhanced since then. He was an integral reason why Bobby Hart, one of the worst right tackles in all of football, was not only re-signed, but was also given a notable raise in the process. Signing John Miller in free agency and drafting Jonah Williams seemed to counter this inexcusable decision to some degree, but things would only get worse from there.
Once offseason programs began, offensive lineman started retiring left and right. First it was Clint Boling, who was dealing with a career-threatening blood clot in his system; pretty much and open and shut case to be fair, and no blame could be bestowed upon Turner.
Then the preseason rolls around and Kent Perkins decides to retire. This was when Williams had been injured for over a month and Cincinnati’s tackle depth was getting thin. Why did Perkins leave the team? Obviously he wasn’t fully committed to hanging up the cleats because he was recently drafted by the St. Louis BattleHawks to play in the XFL.
About a week later, Christian Westerman is mysteriously not playing. He decides to retire out of the blue as well. Like Perkins, Westerman later had a change of heart and returned to the team a week later. He was cut soon after that, but the suspicion only grew louder.
Why did two backup lineman, on a team that had maybe three established starters along the offensive line, decide to leave the team only to return to the sport in some way shape or form? A lack of opportunity? In need of a fresh start? A frustration with the new position coach? No reason can be fairly dismissed.
In-between all of this were the signings of John Jerry and Andre Smith, both of whom have had their share of ups and downs this year. Smith coming back for the third time since his initial departure after 2015 is more of an indictment on the front office. But John Jerry? The last time he played any football was in 2017, and even then he wasn’t playing very well. Now he’s the answer to Boling’s retirement?
In fairness, Jerry hasn’t been terrible after spending an entire year on his couch, but even in late June, he was far from the best option the team could’ve turned to when they needed another body. He was signed because of his familiarity with Turner and Taylor, which sounds a lot like Smith and other acquisitions the franchise has made in the past.
Finally, we get to Cordy Glenn.
On Wednesday, Taylor announced that Glenn had been cleared to practice for the first time since he self-reported a concussion two months prior in the middle of the preseason. In his first practice back, the mood shifted from promising to catastrophic.
Glenn and an unnamed coach got into a heated argument—one that nearly turned physical—over the timing of Glenn’s return to the field. Glenn, the man who has been dealing with literal brain damage for several weeks, was being berated by his coach, whom has not been dealing with such ailments, for taking so long to come back to work. Remove the traditional tough-minded football tropes from your mind and realize how ridiculous the coach sounds in that scenario.
The coach and the Bengals appear to be on the same side, as the team fined Glenn $200,000 for conduct detrimental to the team. Essentially, they believe Glenn was biding his time to return and the team felt he was able to come back long before he did. As a response, Glenn reportedly asked to be cut from the team for being pressured to come back earlier than he felt he should.
We’re not pointing fingers here, but we can make an educated guess as to which coach was the one to get into it with Glenn. It wouldn’t be the first time Turner berated one of his players for standing by a personal decision he didn’t agree with.
The situation with Glenn has spiraled out of control and if he ever plays for the Bengals again, it’ll be an absolute miracle. At this point, no one should want Glenn to incur more brain damage for an organization that would treat him like this, whether or not they believe from their own viewpoint he was ready to play again.
And all of this really starts with Taylor. When asked about his offensive line coach that he’s known for years, Taylor stood up for him once more. When asked about Perkins and Westerman leaving the team back in August, he had a response to that as well: “Every issue has been completely separate,” Taylor said. “Every situation has been so unique. None of them I can really talk about. I can’t get into their personal matters.”
Whatever. Taylor’s not going to throw his friend under the bus that easily. He’s been a defender of his shoddy character from day one. Turner’s capability as a coach, however, is something Taylor can’t prop up forever without tangible results to back it up.
Turner is still not good at what he does, and the results this year continue to validate that assessment—which most people subscribed to this offseason anyways.
Bobby Hart remains to be terrible, and it’s not like Turner of all coaches could fix his uninspiring technique. His decision to throw Michael Jordan back out at left guard after he proved he wasn’t ready was as awful as Jordan’s play following the decision. And most of Billy Price’s issues are still plaguing his performance as well.
There’s only so much he can do for Price, Hart and the left tackles he’s working with, but what about Trey Hopkins and Miller? The center and right guard duo have been the unquestionable bright spots along the line, but still can’t seem to communicate with one another in the run game. Second level blocking has been a detriment to the offense all season long, and most of that lies on Hopkins and his guards. Why isn’t their talent being maximized on the field?
Because the only thing Turner has ever proven to maximize is how incompetent of a leader and coach he really is. He’s never managed to make of his units better, he’s rarely been able to elevate anyone’s talent. But he’s always managed to be the center of controversy wherever he goes.
It’s simply poetic that he’s right in the middle of the worst Bengals season in a decade.
October 24, 2019 at 5:17 pm #107244
znModeratorRams vs. Bengals: 4 key matchups to watch in Week 8 https://t.co/WxjtEKTgwG
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 24, 2019
October 25, 2019 at 11:48 am #107278
znModeratorRams will 'have to change a few things' due to Zac Taylor's familiarity https://t.co/j9WcxxOZHp
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 25, 2019
October 25, 2019 at 1:06 pm #107289
znModeratorCruz: Rams' defense will get after Dalton https://t.co/EFdP7mkv11
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) October 25, 2019
October 25, 2019 at 5:18 pm #107291
znModeratorBengals' run defense? Bad. 📈 Darrell Henderson
Pass defense? Bad. 📈 Gerald Everett
OL? Putrid. 📈 Dante Fowler Jr.
Weapons? Barely. 📈 Jalen Ramseyhttps://t.co/HQ7gJkUJvh— Sosa K (@QBsMVP) October 25, 2019
October 25, 2019 at 7:03 pm #107299
znModeratorGame Preview: Bengals at Rams | Week 8
https://www.bengals.com/news/game-preview-bengals-at-rams-week-8
Setting the scene: The Bengals this week travel to London, England, as part of the NFL’s International Series, and take on the Los Angeles Rams at Wembley Stadium on Sunday. Cincinnati is coming off of a 27-17 home loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and currently stands at 0-7.
“It’s a frustrating loss,” said Bengals head coach Zac Taylor. “It was the type of game we envisioned it being, and there were opportunities in front of us, but we didn’t do enough to take advantage of it. Give the Jaguars credit.”
Despite the 10-point final margin, the Bengals and Jaguars were locked in a closely contested battle for much of the game. Cincinnati held a 10-9 lead after three quarters, but then threw three fourth-quarter interceptions, including one inside the red zone and another that was returned for a TD, allowing Jacksonville to coast to a win.
Among the Bengals’ highest priorities this week will be jump-starting the running game, which Zac Taylor has said is essential to his offensive philosophy. Last week against Jacksonville, Cincinnati was held to just 33 net rushing yards, and HB Joe Mixon, the AFC’s leading rusher a year ago, totaled 10 rushes for two yards.
“We don’t want to play the game dropping back (43) times,” said Taylor of his team’s run-pass ratio against Jacksonville. “We’ve got to be accountable in the run game. We called some runs, and they’re good runs, but then we lose the point of attack right as the (running) back is hitting the line of scrimmage.”
Among the bright spots for the Bengals the last few weeks has been the play of Cincinnati’s defense inside the red zone. Although the Bengals have surrendered more than 400 yards in each of the last three games, the defense has kept each contest close by holding those three opponents to a combined three touchdowns on 14 total trips inside the 20-yard line. Overall this season, Cincinnati has allowed just 11 TDs on 27 red-zone possessions, good for a 40.7 defensive red-zone TD percentage that ranks fourth in NFL.
Sunday’s game against the Rams will feature several reunions. Taylor, who was named the Bengals’ 10th head coach on Feb. 4 of this year, spent the last two seasons (2017-18) as a member of the Rams’ coaching staff. He served as assistant wide receivers coach in 2017, before moving into the role of quarterbacks coach last season and helping the team to a Super Bowl berth.
The Bengals will also see a familiar face on Sunday. Rams OT Andrew Whitworth was originally a second-round draft selection of the Bengals in 2006, and spent his first 11 seasons (’06-16) with Cincinnati. During his time in Cincinnati, Whitworth was a central figure on six Bengals playoff teams, including three that won AFC North titles.
In focusing on earning their first win on Sunday before entering the Week 9 bye, Taylor and the Bengals will need players originally slotted as reserves to step into larger roles. Last week vs. Jacksonville, injuries held out six players who started in the team’s season-opener at Seattle, as well as another valuable defensive contributor in DE Carl Lawson. And, of course, the Bengals are still awaiting the return of star WR A.J. Green, who has not yet played this season due to a ankle injury suffered in the team’s first training camp practice in July.
“I know this community really, really wants to support a winner,” Taylor said of his trying to get in the win column. “We’re going to fight our tails off every single day. I want to win for the players, because they put in the work. I want to win for the fans, because they want us to be a winner.”
The Rams are 4-3 after defeating the Atlanta Falcons last week.
The series: The Bengals lead 8-5 overall.
This week’s game will be the first played between the two teams at a neutral site, though the Rams will be considered the home team. The series is tied 3-3 overall with the Bengals as the visiting team.
The Bengals have won the last three meetings, 19-10 at Paul Brown Stadium in 2007, 20-13 at St. Louis in ’11, and 31-7 at PBS in ’15. This week’s game will be the Bengals’ first against the second Los Angeles edition of the Rams. The Bengals were 5-2 against the first Los Angeles edition of the Rams and were 2-3 against the St. Louis Rams. The Rams franchise originally played in Cleveland from 1936-45, and then L.A. from ’46-94, and then St. Louis from ’95-2015. They returned to L.A. in ’16.
Bengals-Rams connections: Bengals head coach Zac Taylor was on the Rams’ coaching staff from 2017-18. He served as assistant wide receivers coach in 2017, and quarterbacks coach in ’18 … Rams T Andrew Whitworth was originally a second-round draft pick (55th overall) of Cincinnati in 2006, and was with the Bengals through the ’16 season … Rams head coach Sean McVay played wide receiver at Miami (Ohio) University … Rams CB Troy Hill was originally a college free agent signee of the Bengals in 2015, and was with the team during the ’15 season … Rams LS Jake McQuaide is from Cincinnati (Elder High School) and played at Ohio State University …Bengals WR John Ross (Reserve/Injured) is from Long Beach, Calif. (Jordan High School) … Bengals CB Torry McTyer is from Los Angeles (Cathedral High School) … Bengals G Alex Redmond is from Cerritos, Calif. (Los Alamitos High School) … Bengals DT Josh Tupou is from Long Beach, Calif. (Buena Park High School) … Bengals WR Trenton Irwin (practice squad) is from Valencia, Calif. (Hart High School) … Rams DT Marquise Copeland (practice squad) played at the University of Cincinnati … Rams assistant quarterbacks coach Zac Robinson played for the Bengals from 2011-13 … Rams defensive line coach Eric Henderson played DE/LB for the Bengals from 2007-08 … Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan played (2002-05) and coached (’06-07) at UCLA …Bengals strength and conditioning coach Joey Boese coached at Fresno State University from 2012-15 … Bengals assistant strength and conditioning coach Todd Hunt played (2012-15) and coached (’16-17) at Fresno State University …Bengals assistant strength and conditioning coach Garrett Swanson played at Fresno State University from 2012-15 … Rams outside linebackers coach Chris Shula played linebacker at Miami (Ohio) University from 2004-08 … Rams run game coordinator Aaron Kromer is from Sandusky, Ohio, and played (1986-89) and coached (’90-98) at Miami (Ohio) University … Rams director of strength and conditioning Ted Rath played (2003-06) and coached (’07-09) at the University of Toledo … Rams assistant strength and conditioning coach Edward Grayer coached at the University of Louisville in 2007.
Hey, Mr. Wilson: Coming into the 2019 season, Bengals S Brandon Wilson had just one career kickoff return — he was on the receiving end of a 36-yard pooch kick designed to run out the clock in the first half of Game 9 vs. New Orleans last season. But opportunity came knocking in Game 5 this season, when the Bengals, who were already down their No. 1 KOR Darius Phillips (Reserve/Injured; knee), lost their No. 2 KOR, Alex Erickson, to a concussion.
On his first opportunity, Wilson, a third-year pro from the University of Houston, returned a kickoff 52 yards and nearly broke free for a TD. He later added a 40-yarder that was called back by a penalty. The next week at Baltimore, Wilson bolted 92 yards for a TD on the game’s opening kickoff, marking the first time in team history a Bengal has opened a game with a kickoff-return TD. The NFL’s Next Gen Stats service, which tracks players’ speed by using GPS, clocked Wilson’s TD dash at 22.03 MPH, the third-fastest speed in the NFL this year and the fastest by a Bengal since NGS’ launch in 2016.
And then in Game 7 vs. Jacksonville, Wilson nearly scored again, but had to settle for a 61-yard return thanks to a shoestring tackle as he broke into the clear.
Wilson now has 10 career kickoff returns for 334 yards (33.4 average). He stands as the first NFL player in eight seasons to have his first 10 career kickoff returns include three of 40 or more yards and at least one TD (Jets RB Joe McKnight, 2010-11).
Keep an eye on Andy: QB Andy Dalton owns a 68-57-2 record as a starter, good for the top winning percentage (.543) of any Bengals QB with 10 or more starts. And as the numbers have shown, the Bengals’ success is tied closely to that of their QB.
The Bengals are 39-9 (.813) when Dalton achieves a passer rating of at least 100, with wins in 11 of their last 16 such instances. Conversely, Cincinnati is just 10-27 (.270) when Dalton’s passer rating is 70 or lower, with losses in the last 15 such instances.
Dalton has thrown at least two TDs 63 times in his career. and the Bengals are 41-21-1 (.659) in those contests. In his 23 games with at least three TD passes, the Bengals are 22-1 (.957), with the only outlier coming in a 2012 loss at Cleveland. Conversely, the Bengals are just 6-17 (.261) when Dalton is held without a TD pass, and haven’t won such a game since 2014 at Cleveland.
A similar trend is true with passing yardage. In the 51 instances of Dalton topping 250 passing yards, the Bengals are 29-20-2 (.588). He’s topped 300 yards 26 times, with Cincinnati going 15-10-1 (.596) in those contests. But when he is held under 150 passing yards, Cincinnati is just 6-11 (.353).
Cincinnati has also proven tough to beat when Dalton is at his most accurate. When he completes at least 65 percent of his passes (minimum 20 attempts), the Bengals are 36-15-1 (.702), including wins in eight of their last 12 such games. And when that completion percentage jumps to at least 70, the Bengals are 21-6-1 (.768), with wins in 12 of their last 15 such games. Cincinnati, however, is just 5-18 (.217) when Dalton’s completion percentage is 55 or lower.
Dalton passes Kenny in TDs: QB Andy Dalton’s three rushing touchdowns this season have given him 22 total TDs for his career, the most by a QB in Bengals history. Dalton tied former Bengals QB Ken Anderson (20) for the lead in Game 3 at Buffalo, and then moved ahead of him in Game 6 at Baltimore with a two-yard rushing score in the fourth quarter. Dalton in 2019 is playing his ninth season, while Anderson played 16 Bengals seasons (1971-86).
Dalton’s 21 career rushing TDs are now also the most ever by a Bengals QB, ahead of Anderson (20). All of Anderson’s TDs were rushing scores, while Dalton has 22 total by virtue of being the only Bengals QB ever to catch a touchdown pass. He scored on an 18-yard gadget connection from WR Mohamed Sanu vs. Tennessee in 2014. The next-most total TDs by a Bengals QB is 10, by Jeff Blake. Dalton and Jack Thompson share the Bengals season record for touchdowns by a QB, at five. Dalton had five in 2014, tying the record first set by Thompson in 1979.
October 26, 2019 at 2:05 pm #107381
znModeratorWho + what to watch for, keys to victory + more as the #LARams prepare to face the Bengals on Sunday!
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) October 26, 2019
October 26, 2019 at 2:06 pm #107382
znModeratorSean McVay not worried about Rams overlooking 'very competitive' Bengals https://t.co/6steJUECjA
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 26, 2019
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