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znModeratorMerlin
In the first watch through I saw Hav gettin worked. But tbh both Big Whit & Havenstein were mismatched on the edge. Saints really have a nice edge tandem and the reason Hav didn’t get a lot of help is because their focus was on both edges where Whit was struggling too. I’m used to ignoring LT which is a testament to Whit. But damn it surprised me to see that they were applying heat to both tackles the entire game (Hav struggled more, obviously). Cred here again to the Saints too, as you can draw things up all you want but players gotta win their matchups and the Saints won a lot of them on the edge. Their edge rush is excellent.
Interior OL had a far stronger game than I thought. Allen played his best game of his career, not saying much I realize but still… He made the calls without any free rushers, held up well vs the pass, and excelled in run plays (lots of examples of him making 2nd level blocks particularly on the pitch plays). Boom had a very strong matchup but held his own very well. Even Blythe who I like to give a hard time played well through that first half of the game before he was injured. Demby came in and had a really rough start but I have to admit settled down and played well. I feel way better about these guys now.
znModeratorJamesJM
Playcalling… in the RZ…this is just general perception.
Seems to me most good RZ teams, the OC’s, run plays in the RZ that are smooth transitions from all the rest of the plays… with obvious adaptions due to the more limited amount of turf area in the
RZ… in other words… it’s basically the same game plan squeezed into a smaller area.With McVay I get the feeling, well, more than just a feeling, it’s night and day once the RZ is reached… completely different plays unrelated to all the rest. A Jekyll and Hyde transformation.
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On the Goff, fumble, the play design is everything that is wrong with the Rams redzone issues and my problem with McVays play calling in the Redzone. Its 3rd and 7 from the 11. So what do you do? Run every WR into the endzone and leak Brown out to the 5. What did the Saints do? Rush 4, man cover Brown (not hard as brown just ran to the 5, stopped, turned around and stood there…) leaving 6 lbers/dbs to cover 4 WRs. Thats 10 men in the endzone and no windows to throw into. Run some danged routes that get you the first down or at least lets a wr catch and try to run for a first down. That play had literally no chance. I know Im not a OC, but anyone that reviews that play can see it has too many players flooding into the endzone to create a good throwing window. I would have killed for a TG wheel route or even a WR screen there.
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore
…the Rams’ defense ranks fifth in the NFL in yards allowed per game (293.5), and the average of 18 points per game allowed ranks 10th overall. They rank ninth against the run (92 yards per game) and sixth in pass defense (202 yards per game).
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore
Higbee OK after scare
The Rams lost two players on the same play Sunday. Tight end Tyler Higbee suffered a lung contusion at nearly the exact time Blythe went down with the ankle injury.Although Higbee came back to play another down — he got hurt while going up for a Goff throw that was contested by Saints cornerback Eli Apple — he went to the hospital Sunday night after coughing up blood. Higbee got cleared after an evaluation and went home. He is listed as day to day.
“Everything’s checked out, he’s feeling good, he’s asymptomatic with that in terms of the nuances and those things,” a relieved McVay said. “But he’s feeling good.”
Higbee’s status for Sunday night’s game against the Cleveland Browns remains uncertain.
“What we always want to do is what’s best for the player,” McVay said. “I’ll get the medical report in terms of — we’re never going to put our players in harm’s way and whatever the doctor’s orders are, in the best interests of Tyler, that’s what we’ll follow. What that means as far as this week, the following week, we’ll have more updates as we go.”
The Rams dressed only two tight ends Sunday, and when Higbee went down, rookie offensive tackle David Edwards, who played tight end for one college season at Wisconsin, became the de facto second tight end. Although its doubtful Edwards would have been put in position to catch a ball, if the Rams had needed to go to a jumbo short-yardage set with two tight ends, Edwards would have been called upon.
“We were talking about the possibility on the sideline, so I was ready just in case,” Edwards said.
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore
Good news for Blythe
The second-quarter ankle injury suffered by right guard Austin Blythe initially appeared to be serious. As Blythe lay on the ground in obvious pain upon getting rolled up, one could almost feel the Rams’ inexperienced offensive line growing even more untested.But Monday’s MRI results revealed that the Rams and Blythe likely dodged a major bullet. Blythe suffered a low ankle sprain that might sideline him for weeks, rather than months.
“No breaks, no real tears or anything like that,” Blythe said.
And that was cause for major relief.
“It’s good news,” Blythe said. “I’m feeling good. I’m just going to listen to the trainers and do what they tell me and I’ll get back when I’m back.”
Jamil Demby filled in admirably for Blythe, and barring any outside additions Demby will get the starting nod during Blythe’s recovery. Based on Demby’s performance against the Saints, there seems to be a comfort level that will prevent the Rams from perhaps feeling pressured to Blythe back before he’s completely ready.
znModeratorfrom Assessing Goff and Gurley, and encouraging injury news after the Rams grab early power in NFC
Vincent Bonsignore
Much more than a football game was won when the Rams beat the Saints 27-9 on Sunday at the Coliseum in a rematch of last season’s NFC Championship Game. The entire power balance of the conference shifted when Drew Brees completed his follow-through on a pass attempt and his right hand crashed into the arm of Aaron Donald, who came barreling in on the rush.
Brees left the game with what turned out to be a torn ligament in his throwing hand, and he will undergo surgery and be sidelined approximately six weeks. That means Teddy Bridgewater, who replaced Brees early in the first quarter Sunday, will be the Saints’ quarterback for a while, and that changes the top of the conference hierarchy.
Bridgewater is a capable quarterback and one of the most liked and appreciated players in the NFL. But to be perfectly frank, he is nowhere near the player Brees is. Few quarterbacks are, which is why Brees one day will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He has the ability to throw the ball as accurately as any quarterback in NFL history and decisively control and manage the Saints’ high-octane offense.
In a near-perfect world, Bridgewater helps the Saints to a .500 record in relief of Brees. If Brees missed the next six games that would give the Saints a 4-4 record upon his return. That leaves them plenty of time to make a playoff run, but it likely would leave them almost no margin for error when it comes to a division title and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs.
Play that out a little bit further, and it greatly reduces by one the number of teams the Rams figure to be battling at the end of the season, in terms of what city the NFC runs through on the way to the Super Bowl.
With 14 games remaining, it might seem a bit early to begin thinking along those lines. And maybe it is. But life moves fast in the NFL, and given the Rams’ lofty aspirations, the big picture is always in focus.
That’s another reason to underscore the importance of the Rams’ win Sunday. Remember, last year the Saints got the upper hand on the Rams in the race for home-field advantage in the playoffs by beating them in early November. The teams finished with identical 13-3 records but the tiebreaker went to the Saints based on that win.
The Rams gaining that advantage — for now, anyway — is just one of the many takeaways from Sunday’s game.
Here are my top five others.
Goff gets on track, but must be better
At first glance, Jared Goff played perfectly fine on Sunday while completing 19 of 28 attempts for 283 yards and one touchdown for a quarterback rating of 112.6. And while he might have been guilty of hanging onto the ball a little too long on what turned out to be a red-zone fumble in the second quarter, that’s probably splitting hairs a bit considering the protection in front of him certainly wasn’t pristine.
That said, given the expectations after his last two seasons and the record-breaking contract extension he recently signed, it certainly appears Goff is capable of much more.
The same can be said for the Rams’ offense as a whole. But Goff is the face of that operation and its success is tied directly into his play.
Goff and the offense have struggled to get on track in the first two games. That’s partially the result of unexpected defensive looks they’ve faced, and also a general lack of sharpness. The slow starts haven’t cost them (yet), and as they showed Sunday and last week against Carolina, they’ve been able to rebound enough to total 57 points in two games.
That is a bottom line they will gladly take. Who wouldn’t, right?
But again, we are talking about the two-time defending NFC West champions and the defending NFC champions. So while bottom-line results might be acceptable at times, by no means do they represent what is possible. The Rams’ offense, and Goff in particular, is capable of more.
“It sometimes takes time,” Goff said. And he is right, of course. It’s two games into the season. There is plenty of time to get things straightened out.
“Again, we scored six (points) in the first half and were able to come away with a 27-9 win, and you’re happy about it no matter what,” he continued. “I think every game is different and this game, (it) took us a little while to find it. Frankly, I don’t think it really matters. We win, we win. If we find it early, you’d obviously love that, but any way it happens, we are happy with it.”
Perhaps.
But on a different day against a different opponent, another slow start certainly might cost them. It’s imperative, then, that the Rams figure out a way to get on track earlier.
That eluded them again on Sunday, especially in relation to crossing the goal line after moving into the red zone. The Rams were turned away from the end zone three times in the first half after driving into scoring position, as they settled for two field goals and squandered another chance with the Goff fumble. For a team accustomed to precision and efficiency and maximizing red-zone opportunities, that was cause for some annoyance.
“We have to be better and more efficient down in the red zone,” said left tackle Andrew Whitworth. “We were getting a little frustrated because we were moving the ball. We just weren’t figuring out ways to get in the end zone.”
Said coach Sean McVay: “(We) had some good drives towards the end of the first half, but to only come away with three points on those two drives, we have to be better there.”
That changed in the second half when the Rams scored three touchdowns to blow the game open.
“Really we didn’t do anything different. We were just more efficient,” Whitworth said.
It was a positive step forward, and one the Rams hope to build on.
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‘New normal’ for Gurley?
Per the Rams’ unofficial/official plan to help preserve Todd Gurley’s health, Gurley once again split series with backup Malcolm Brown on Sunday. Gurley finished with 63 yards on 16 carries and caught three passes for four yards. His longest run was for 20 yards and he scored a touchdown.
And while Gurley has not publicly stated any dissatisfaction with his new usage pattern, he hasn’t fully endorsed it either. Gurley has been a bit of an enigma this year when dealing with the media, especially as it relates to his health, as he typically responds with very short answers with little depth or perspective.
And after his short postgame media session Sunday, it seems warranted to wonder just how happy he is with the way he’s being used.
Asked about his understanding of the new way he’s being used and whether his role has changed much, Gurley said, “Ask Sean. I’m not the head coach. I’m good.”
When asked if it was difficult getting into a flow with the number of carries he’s getting, Gurley only said, “No. I’m good.”
McVay wasn’t all that clear either when asked if Gurley’s usage through two games is the blueprint for what is to come.
“It’s hard to say right now,” McVay said. “Through two games, I think (Gurley and Brown) both have done a nice job. As the season continues to progress, I think we’ll really find out. Like we’ve said, each game kind of represents a different approach, but I thought both those guys did a nice job making some timely runs in times we had to have it.”
Maybe Gurley is completely fine. Maybe he’s just sick and tired of talking about his knee, which is understandable.
But it’s worth keeping an eye on moving forward, in terms of how happy and content he really is.
Secondary doesn’t disappoint
It’s early, but the Rams’ defense ranks fifth in the NFL in yards allowed per game (293.5), and the average of 18 points per game allowed ranks 10th overall. They rank ninth against the run (92 yards per game) and sixth in pass defense (202 yards per game).
Those stats represents a positive trend for a defense that, during the offseason, believed fixing its issues against the run would help propel it into being an upper-echelon unit.
Aaron Donald and fellow linemen, and Cory Littleton and fellow linebackers, have been critical in suppressing opponents, and the Rams’ secondary, a perceived strength throughout the offseason and training camp, has lived up to its billing.
Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib have gone all but unnoticed at cornerback thus far — that’s usually a good sign for players operating on high-leverage islands — and reserves Nickell Robey-Coleman and Troy Hill have been solid.
Meanwhile, safeties Eric Weddle, John Johnson, Taylor Rapp and Marqui Christian have cleaned things up in pass coverage and run defense. Their play on the back end — and sometimes at the first and second levels — combined with their communication skills have helped lift the Rams’ defense.
“When you have versatile safeties that have the ability to play coverage,” McVay said, “to be able to play in the box and be able to activate them as blitzes, they’re really those joker type players for the defense. And really when you’re looking at our guys that are playing safety, with Eric, John Johnson and Taylor Rapp, all three of those guys have a very similar skill set, they’re all very smart, cerebral players, and those are things that enable us to be a little more multiple than what you would otherwise. So it’s a huge deal to have those guys,”
znModeratorFantasy football stats to know from Week 2!
PFF Fantasy senior analyst @ScottBarrettDFB runs through the league's Week 2 action to find the key fantasy stats. pic.twitter.com/flyzyKbLif
— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) September 16, 2019
September 17, 2019 at 10:36 am in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105209
znModerator.@trapp07 appreciation tweet. pic.twitter.com/xSoNfbfY8Y
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) September 16, 2019
September 17, 2019 at 10:35 am in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105208
znModeratorYEAH YEAH.
🔥 @MichaelBrockers 🔥 pic.twitter.com/Uyl60IRNJo
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) September 16, 2019
September 17, 2019 at 8:42 am in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105204
znModeratorAaron Donald made it look like Larry Warford got off the ball late. pic.twitter.com/zHzAyWtIQi
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) September 17, 2019
znModeratorRich Eisen Show…safety @weddlesbeard told us…what it’s like watching @AaronDonald97 play
Weddle says that AD is the most talented PLAYER “at any position” he has ever worked with. Weddle has been in the league since 2007.
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znModeratorSosa K@QBsMVP
The Browns’ OL looks horrible. If I’m a defensive lineman on the Rams, I’m salivating watching this.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Rams HC Sean McVay Tyler Higbee a lung contusion, he’s day to day. Aaron Donald an oblique. Day to day as well.
znModeratorFive Takeaways: Rams defeat Saints behind second-half offense, special teams, timely defensive plays
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/five-takeaways-rams-defeat-saints-behind-second-half-offense
Second-half contributions from a variety of key offensive players, a rebound special teams performance and clutch defensive plays helped the Los Angeles Rams moved to 2-0 on the season with a 27-9 win over the New Orleans Saints at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.
Here are five instant takeaways from the matchup.
1) HALFTIME ADJUSTMENTS CREATE LATE SEPARATION
Considering these two teams combined for 80 points in their last regular season meeting and 49 in the NFC Championship, it was somewhat surprising to see the halftime score read Rams 6, Saints 3.
Still, credit Los Angeles for adapting in the second half.
L.A. had 207 of its 380 total yards of offense across the third and fourth quarter despite losing starting RG Austin Blythe to an ankle injury before halftime. QB Jared Goff’s poise was a big part of that, as was the steady rushing attack led by RB Todd Gurley II’s 16 carries for 63 yards and one touchdown.
2) BOTH TEAMS LOSE KEY OFFENSIVE CONTRIBUTORS TO INJURY
It was a busy day for the Rams’ and Saints’ training staffs.
For the Rams, there was Blythe’s ankle injury (carted off the field), a temporary back injury scare with DT Aaron Donald (he went back to the locker room but later returned) and TE Tyler Higbee’s chest contusion (did not return).
For the Saints, starting QB Drew Brees injured his right thumb after hitting it against Donald’s with 6:48 left in the first quarter, starting LG Andrus Peat sustained an ankle injury that prevented him from returning, WR Tre’Quan Smith suffered an ankle injury which knocked him out of the game and WR Keith Kirkwood hurt his hamstring before the game.
Neither team got out of this one completely unscathed, but between the two of them, New Orleans was clearly impacted the most by injuries.
3) KUPP HAS ANOTHER STRONG DAY
If last week wasn’t enough assurance that Rams WR Cooper Kupp was back to his usual self, look no further than Sunday’s effort against the Saints for full confirmation.
With nine minutes left in the fourth quarter, Kupp caught the ball at the Rams’ own 40 on a slant route, then took it all the way down Saints 1-yard line. It was initially ruled a 67-yard touchdown, but officials overturned the call upon further review and placed the ball at the Saints 1, crediting Kupp with a 66-yard reception instead.
While the touchdown got overturned, Los Angeles still took advantage of the big play, as Goff punched it in on a QB keeper for the score. Kupp finished the game with five receptions on nine targets for 120 yards, all team highs.
4) SPECIAL TEAMS BOUNCES BACK FROM TOUGH SEASON-OPENER
A blocked punt and a missed field goal are miscues you don’t see often from punter Johnny Hekker and kicker Greg Zuerlein respectively, let alone a unit led by special teams coordinator John Fassel.
One week after it cost the Rams 10 points in their season opener, Fassel’s squad returned to its expected form against the Saints.
Zuerlein made both of his field goal attempts, making him responsible for six of the Rams’ 27 points. Hekker averaged 49.8 yards per punt and didn’t get any of his attempts blocked. Punt returner JoJo Natson’s long of 32 set up L.A.’s offense at the New Orleans 26, and with a very short field to work with, it was able to capitalize with a 2-yard touchdown pass from Goff to WR Brandin Cooks.
Overall, Week 2 showed the usual positive impact Fassel’s crew makes.
5) DEFENSE DESERVES CREDIT, TOO
Natson’s punt return was made possible by back-to-back sacks from LB Clay Matthews and DL Michael Brockers. Both forced the Saints to punt from deep in their own territory.
New Orleans wide receiver Michael Thomas had 10 catches for 89 yards but was kept out of the endzone. The bigger development, though, was limiting the dual-threat Kamara. After registering 11 catches for 96 yards in the NFC Championship, Kamara had just one catch for 15 yards – only the third time in his career he’s been held to one reception in a regular season game.
Furthermore, the Saints offense got inside the Rams’ 20-yard line just once across 11 drives.
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Sean McVay on RG Austin Blythe:
Good news. He’s day-to-day with a low ankle sprain.*If Blythe is unable to go in Week 3, it would be the first time a @RamsNFL offensive lineman misses a start due to injury since McVay was hired.
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Low ankle sprain for #Rams Austin Blythe. No time table on a return yet but he definitely dodged a major bullet. Is not sure about playing this week yetLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Rams RG Austin Blythe says he’s uncertain how long he’ll be out, but doesn’t expect it to be too serious. When Blythe left the field yesterday, it appeared far more serious than a low ankle sprain. Consider this great news for a team that doesn’t have any veteran backups on the line.RamsNewsNow@RamsNewsNow
Rams tight end reportedly won’t miss much time despite lung injury that was worse than thoughtTyler Higbee@Ty_Higs19
Thank you to everyone for the well wishes and support! I feel great and ready to get back to work asap! We’re 2-0 tho!!! #MobSquad 🤘
znModeratorThe Rams didn‘t re-assert themselves among the top teams in the league because they already were there. What they have done is started to crank things up on both sides of the ball. pic.twitter.com/oKzIHLug7X
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) September 16, 2019
znModeratorFor the first time since 2015, there are NINE 2-0 teams in the @NFL.
Is yours one of them? pic.twitter.com/fHbPNwSq5z
— SNF on NBC (@SNFonNBC) September 16, 2019
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znModeratorAccording to @NextGenStats, QB @PatrickMahomes was 7-11, for 257 yards, and 4 TDs in the 2nd quarter ALONE (🤯)@BaldyNFL is here to break down just how he did it 👇
📺: #NFLNow pic.twitter.com/Gq9Wjb2iXF
— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) September 16, 2019
September 16, 2019 at 4:12 pm in reply to: Ben Roethlisberger will miss the rest of the season #105161
znModeratorIs this the end of an era for the Steelers? We discussed earlier on The Aftermath (still going strong on @nflnetwork) @MoveTheSticks @wyche89 @RhettNFL pic.twitter.com/NYHTLovzO7
— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) September 16, 2019
September 16, 2019 at 3:54 pm in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105160
znModeratorCooper Kupp YAC then..,https://t.co/iOxuxJKJKT
YAC now… pic.twitter.com/GGqKlObpqG
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 16, 2019
September 16, 2019 at 3:54 pm in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105159
znModeratorThis run by Malcolm Brown and the run on my thread by Saquon Barkley have some athletic commonalities. pic.twitter.com/eQMJD1Oz47
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 16, 2019
znModeratorBTW. The 6 (so far) Waldman break-down vids (which at this moment are) at the end of this thread are golden: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/highlights-etc-saints-game/#post-105154
I mention that here cause sometimes, I get the feeling those post-game break-down vids get neglected.They are really must see stuff.
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September 16, 2019 at 2:40 pm in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105154
znModeratorWondering if the league has caught up to McVay’s screen gm. pic.twitter.com/di45bdRZLL
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 16, 2019
September 16, 2019 at 2:40 pm in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105153
znModerator61-yard Bomb with pinpoint accuracy from Goff and great tracking by Brandin Cooks. Note how fingertips catch saved play… pic.twitter.com/o1Zzvd0v4J
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 16, 2019
September 16, 2019 at 2:39 pm in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105152
znModeratorMalcolm Brown isn’t fast, but he’s quick. Also great C.O.D. for his size. pic.twitter.com/Beng4IZUE6
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 16, 2019
September 16, 2019 at 2:37 pm in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105150
znModeratorGive Goff option under pressure and he’ll belie some his pressure stats. pic.twitter.com/ng60tUr5Y8
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 16, 2019
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Todd Gurley played 45/70 snaps yesterday. That’s 64%, down from last week’s 70% and down from his 2018 full-season average of 86%. Gurley showed burst at times running outside, and Malcolm Brown’s footwork made him effective inside.—
Cooper Kupp’s rejuvenation
He’s back. And not a moment too soon. Jared Goff’s Linus blanket is healthy and terrorizing opponents after the catch. His 66-yard catch-and-run effort was absolutely incredible — and effectively put the nail in the Saints’ coffin Sunday.
Yes, Drew Brees got hurt. Yes, another crucial call went against the Saints early in unfathomable fashion. But don’t let any of that minimize the fact that the Rams won this game, and Goff-Kupp connection was truly on point for the first time since the wide receiver ripped up his knee last November. Kupp finished with five catches for 120 yards. Get used to it. Again.
znModeratorThis became a catch. #LARams pic.twitter.com/yCaj3XjYaC
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) September 16, 2019
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