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znModeratorDeadpool
Evans needs to work on 1 thing for next year
I loved his movement skills coming out of Oklahoma, I also loved his power. Those 2 usually don’t belong in the same sentence for OTs. So he already has a skill set that is rare. He does a very nice job of keeping his feet underneath of himself, which allows him to be more agile and maintain his power. He also does a very nice job of keeping his arms inside his body. At least thats how I describe it. He never over-extends his arms and reaches for a defender, which keeps him from lunging and making him vulnerable to puch/pull moves or spin moves, dip and rips as well since the arms are already extended. The defender just knocks those arms down and dips under the armpit.
What he needs to do better is drop his hips and sink more into that pass pro setup. He is getting by on power and footwork, but Clowney without the core muscle injury he is dealing with right now would have gave Evans a run for his money bigtime IMO. If he sinks his hips a bit more, it lowers his center of gravity and gives him more leverage and less of a chance of being over powered or bull rushed. Nick Bosa is making a living bullrushing because he is so fast off the ball, he converts that speed to power and just gets into a OTs chest and pushes. he did it to Whit a few times in their first meeting.
Evans can be a plus starter for years to come, he just has to fine tune some technique. He’s my favorite OL going forward. Under valued coming out of Okla., and I think he is your future RT at the least and may be your LT as soon as next year. I love the combo of Edwards and Evans on the right side.
As far as Edwards, my biggest knock was technique and it still is, because he hasn’t been a OL since HS. It was in college he made the switch so he is behind. He is smart and can catch up. I’m not worried. He’s your LG of the future, give him an offseason in the weight room and fine tune his technique and he’s a the real deal.
What about the rest of the line?
I’ll just go player to player.
Whitworth – i don’t think he comes back, simply because he has declined and the Rams have no money. I’m not sure I want him back. he has been good lately, but he was a mess early, and it had nothing to do with the rest of the line. Nick Bosa, a rookie, stole his lunch money and his backup sack lunch.
Noteboom – I think his natural position is LT. Now how he comes back and how quickly he comes back is going to be a major story going forward. They are going to have to make personnel and draft decisions without knowing when Noteboom will be healthy. Its a scary thought. I think at worst he is your starting LG.
Corbett – Right now he is the weakest link on the line. No question. Rams have him under cheap control for next year and he has proven he can start for a team with playoff aspirations so to me, he’s a perfect backup OG.
Blythe – Guy is a OC, has always been and is proving thats where he belongs. I like him at OC more then Allen. But he is a FA, and unless the Rams get a discount on him, I don’t see him coming back.
Allen – Don’t like him, didn’t like him when he was drafted and I he isn’t really a fit for any offense. Too small for a power man scheme, too stiff for a zone scheme. He’s a jag. And I don’t like tearing down Rams players, but I just don’t see him as a long term solution.
Haves – Didn’t like him or Brown as picks a few years ago. He’s more of a power man RT only. Too slow with heavy feet. And way too tall to be moved inside. And too expensive to be cut. And who really wants to trade for an overpriced, underachieving RT. So what do you do with him? I just do not know.
znModeratorDeadpool
Evans needs to work on 1 thing for next year
I loved his movement skills coming out of Oklahoma, I also loved his power. Those 2 usually don’t belong in the same sentence for OTs. So he already has a skill set that is rare. He does a very nice job of keeping his feet underneath of himself, which allows him to be more agile and maintain his power. He also does a very nice job of keeping his arms inside his body. At least thats how I describe it. He never over-extends his arms and reaches for a defender, which keeps him from lunging and making him vulnerable to puch/pull moves or spin moves, dip and rips as well since the arms are already extended. The defender just knocks those arms down and dips under the armpit.
What he needs to do better is drop his hips and sink more into that pass pro setup. He is getting by on power and footwork, but Clowney without the core muscle injury he is dealing with right now would have gave Evans a run for his money bigtime IMO. If he sinks his hips a bit more, it lowers his center of gravity and gives him more leverage and less of a chance of being over powered or bull rushed. Nick Bosa is making a living bullrushing because he is so fast off the ball, he converts that speed to power and just gets into a OTs chest and pushes. he did it to Whit a few times in their first meeting. Evans can be a plus starter for years to come, he just has to fine tune some technique.
As far as Edwards, my biggest knock was technique and it still is, because he hasn’t been a OL since HS. It was in college he made the switch so he is behind. He is smart and can catch up. I’m not worried.
znModeratorRams’ 3 biggest cause for concern on Sunday in Week 15 | Rams Wire
link: https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/13/nfl-rams-cowboys-week-15-concerns-cooper-elliott/
The Rams enter Week 15 with a better record than the Cowboys, but Los Angeles needs a win more desperately than Dallas does. This isn’t going to be an easy victory by any means, either.Rams at Cowboys prediction and preview | Athlon Sports
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams-vs-dallas-cowboys-prediction-picks-2019
The 2019 NFL season has not seen the Dallas Cowboys or Los Angeles Rams live up to expectations. But for one of these teams, Sunday’s matchup presents an opportunity to right the ship — or at least start to.Predictions for Rams at Cowboys | Cowboys’ official site
https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/gut-feeling-predictions-for-cowboys-rams-2019
Both teams have plenty of incentive to get this win this weekend. Let’s see what the DallasCowboys.com staff thinks in this week’s ‘gut feeling’ for Sunday’s game at AT&T Stadium.Playoff implications on the line for Rams, Cowboys in Week 15 | Rams’ official site
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-cowboys-game-preview-week-15
The Rams (8-5) travel to Dallas to take on the Cowboys (6-7) at AT&T Stadium on Sunday, with playoff implications on the line for both teams.Rams’ injury report, 12/13: Webster good, Everett out, Hav doubtful | Rams’ official site
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-cowboys-final-injury-report-week-15
Rams punt returner Nsimba Webster (hip) is good to go for Sunday’s game against the Cowboys in Dallas, while tight end Gerald Everett (knee) has been ruled out.
znModeratorRams are 1.5-point favorites over the Cowboys on the road. In the eyes of the experts, they also have the advantage. According to NFL Pick Watch ( https://nflpickwatch.com/ ), which tracks expert picks each week, 73% of the pundits are taking the Rams to win straight-up on Sunday afternoon.
znModeratorLeftist: Yeah. Cool. Thanks. Good connection. Gotta go. (shuffles off to job that is feels close to pointless some days).
The NL prof has had years to train himself to ignore real analysis and history.
The students haven’t. So the L prof just brings up Afghanistan in class.
It won’t be a 100% break through, it never is. But it will be an important moment for some.
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimesklein
Jalen Ramsey on Amari Cooper. “What he’s been able to do since he got to Dallas, it’s elite.”Contrast Dept: The Cowboys starting OL carries combined salary-cap number of about $45 million. Rams about $20.3 million — but less than $4 million if you take out Whitworth.
Gurley stiff-arm vs. Seahawks made me think of this quote from Maurice Jones-Drew earlier this season: “He’ll stiff-arm a guy for 15 yards while he’s running full speed. The guy will try to dive at his legs and he’ll just run them into the ground.”
znModerator#LARams interior defense has been stout against the run so far this year
Among all DI/ED defenders with at least 300 snaps, Aaron Donald (3rd) and Michael Brockers (6th) both rank in the Top 10 in Rush Defense Grades pic.twitter.com/8RrWrNGPT1
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) December 13, 2019
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Rams injury report Friday, game status:TE Gerald Everett (Knee) OUT
RT Rob Havenstein (Knee) DOUBTFUL
znModeratorExpect Todd Gurley and the #LARams to go off on the #DallasCowboys, says @willcain & @damienwoody on @WillCainShow.
Listen to Rams pregame Sunday at 10:30 AM on ESPNLA 710 https://t.co/Wda75J3NBi pic.twitter.com/0fogGaFSl8
— ESPN Los Angeles (@ESPNLosAngeles) December 13, 2019
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znModeratorFrom NFL Now: The #Giants moved on from CB Janoris Jenkins after his inexcusable slur on Twitter. pic.twitter.com/yxGrZQg8my
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 13, 2019
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Ross Tucker@RossTuckerNFL
Janoris Jenkins is actually having a really good year ON the field.Beyond curious to see which teams, if any, claim him because he could really help some teams in the playoff push.
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And just like that Janoris Jenkins tenure with the New York Giants ends. I certainly remember Janoris Jenkins for his great acceleration! Incidentally for cowboys week, do you remember when he picked 6 on Tony Romo in 2014? Best of luck elsewhere @JjenkzLockdown ! pic.twitter.com/NHezRWqyss
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) December 13, 2019
znModeratorRams Wire@TheRamsWire
Eric Weddle says Taylor Rapp is “lightyears ahead of most rookies”“Anytime I say something to him or relay something to him, even in the middle of the game, he’s on top of it the next series,” Weddle added. “He’s been not only one of the best rookies, but over the last 10 games, one of the best safeties out there. His tackling ability, his covering, his playmaking. Could’ve had three or four picks if he could catch, but those times will come. The sky’s the limit for him, I’m just happy that I can share the field with him and help him as much as I can.”
znModeratorIn the 2008 victory over Dallas, ball hawking safety OJ Atogwe led the Rams defense in shutting down the Cowboys attack. Between 2006-2010 no player had more takeaways then Atogwe (Interceptions AND forced fumbles). Here, OJ picked off Brad Johnson two times! pic.twitter.com/gmjW6RYFtC
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) December 13, 2019
znModeratorRams running back Cleveland Gary had a field day against Dallas in 1992. Gary put up 154 yards of offense and 2 touchdowns as the Rams defeated the soon to be super bowl champion Dallas Cowboys. pic.twitter.com/heiUBj0piB
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) December 13, 2019
znModeratorRookie Bobby Evans steps up in reconfigured Rams’ O-line
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rookie-bobby-evans-steps-reconfigured-013518537.html
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. (AP) — In one month, rookie Bobby Evans has gone from simulating the Los Angeles Rams’ opponents to running them over as the starting right tackle.
In the same time span, the makeshift offensive line Evans is part of helped the Rams stabilize their season and give them a chance to make the playoffs for the third straight year.
“Honestly, I just feel like life picked up a lot ’cause I went from, you know, being a scout-team backup guy to a starter,” Evans said.
Evans, a third-round draft pick from Oklahoma, has started the past four games after Rob Havenstein sustained a knee injury. Next to him is David Edwards, another rookie. Austin Blythe changed positions and is now the starting center. Left guard Austin Corbett was acquired from Cleveland in a trade on Oct. 15.
The only projected starter still in the lineup is left tackle Andrew Whitworth, but that front five combination has allowed the Rams to get the offense on track.
Since Evans came into the lineup against Chicago in Week 11, Todd Gurley has run off three of his four most productive rushing performances this season. That, in turn, has allowed Jared Goff to find success with play-action passing.
Coach Sean McVay said Evans has been integral to creating holes for Gurley and keeping Goff upright against several top edge defenders, including Khalil Mack for the Bears and Seattle’s Jadeveon Clowney.
“I’ve been really impressed with him, you look at some of the players that he’s gone against, the caliber of big-time guys and the way that he’s been able to perform,” McVay said. “He’s got great play energy. If you watch him, the excitement, the way that he helps his teammates up, finishes blocks, gets excited when guys score. He’s got a nice enthusiasm about himself that you get excited about. I’ve been very pleased with Bobby.”
Whether Evans’ play has been strong enough to usurp the starting job from Havenstein is a matter McVay and his coaching staff have tried to deflect.
“I feel good about the fact that we can execute our offense at a high level however that game day right tackle spot plays out,” passing game coordinator Shane Waldron said.
Havenstein is in the first season of a four-year, $32.5 million dollar contract extension he signed in August 2018, a deal he earned with steady play in McVay’s first two seasons.
But the response to the first real adversity during McVay’s time in Los Angeles, a downturn which also coincided with the spate of injuries that forced the offensive line to be reshuffled, might have rendered past performance and future earnings secondary to how the Rams are playing now as they try to chase down Minnesota for the second wild-card in the NFC.
The Rams seem inclined to stick with what is working. Havenstein was a full participant in practice Thursday, but it was Evans working alongside the other starters during positional drills.
Still, what could be a complicated decision right now might bode well for the future of the Rams up front, with Whitworth in the final season of a three-year contract. If Whitworth decides not to play a 15th season or the Rams decide to move on from the dependable Louisiana native who has played all but 10 offensive snaps this season, Evans and Havenstein would be the obvious choices to start in some combination at left and right tackle.
Evans played both positions in college for the Sooners and believes he can highlight different parts of his game depending on where he lines up.
“I would say I feel smoother pass setting at left, but I feel stronger on the right, you know what I’m saying?,” Evans said.
Left or right is something to be resolved later for Evans. Right now, he is focused on being ready to play against Dallas on Sunday if needed.
Blythe said Evans’ attitude reflects why he has been able to adapt so well to the NFL.
“He’s just been a professional,” Blythe said. “He’s done what the coaches asked.”
znModeratorAs opposing QBs try to avoid him, Jalen Ramsey has 2 pass deflections and a forced fumble since joining Rams in Week 7. Ramsey admits it gets frustrating to not get much action. pic.twitter.com/wMjDwZndZI
— Lindsey Thiry (@LindseyThiry) December 13, 2019
znModeratorAaron Donald’s continued dominance
Another year, another season of Aaron Donald dominating. Barring voter fatigue, Donald could be well on his way to becoming the first player in NFL history to win DPOY in three consecutive seasons. No other player stands so far ahead of his peers at his position. Donald leads the NFL in pressures (60) for the second-straight season — remarkable for his position — as he has 24 more pressures than any other interior DL. Donald has generated a pressure on 14.0% of his pass rushes, which is the sixth-highest rate in the NFL (min. 200 pass rushes) and stands head and shoulders above the next-closest interior DL (Gerald McCoy: 11.4%). To put this in perspective, consider the base rates: Defenders aligned as interior D-linemen generate pressure on 6.6% of their pass rushes compared to 9.7% when aligned on the edge. The key to Donald’s success? His patented burst off the ball. He has a pass rush get-off of 0.83 seconds (the average time it takes him to cross the LOS).
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Jalen Ramsey on Cowboyss WR Amari Cooper: “In my opinion, I think he’s one of the most underrated receivers in the league.”Sosa K@QBsMVP
Fun fact: #LARams WR Robert Woods is the highest-scoring WR in fantasy football (PPR) over the past two weeks with his 55.90 points. Nearly 10 points higher than second place.PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
#LARams Jared Goff’s play has really come around in recent weeksIn the past 5 weeks, Goff ranks in the Top 10 among all QBs in the league in terms of Overall Offense (8th) and Passing Grades (9th)
Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Interesting stat I found on Troy Hill while looking for something else on Pro Football Reference:Hill has been targeted on 55 pass attempts this year, with 26 completions (47.3%). It’s rare to see a corner under 50%. For context, Stephon Gilmore is 50%. Jalen Ramsey is 67.2%.
Now obviously, the better the corner, the better the receiver in most games, but overall Troy Hill’s consistency has been a pleasant surprise for me since the Rams’ secondary shuffle.
Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
The Cowboys lead the league in total yards (430.8/game), but they’re last in average starting field position (25.2)Special teams have not been good for Dallas this year
Sosa K@QBsMVP
Three teams completely changed the way their defense performed by trading for a player in the secondary this year.Baltimore Ravens – CB Marcus Peters
Pittsburgh Steelers – S Minkah Fitzpatrick
Los Angeles Rams – CB Jalen RamseyNot sure how much is attributed to them, but wild
Obviously, there’s more to it than just one player (rest of defense is playing better), but it’s crazy the immediate change in production these teams had right after they acquired said player.
Can’t really remember anything like this before.
znModeratorDouble team rate as a defensive tackle (x) by pass rush win rate as a defensive tackle (y).
PRWR = rate pass rusher beats blocker in 2.5 seconds.
ESPN metrics, NFL Next Gen Stats data. pic.twitter.com/H6XmXgRJoh
— Seth Walder (@SethWalder) December 12, 2019
znModerator#LARams HC Sean McVay brought up this play against the #Cowboys from 2017 where Gurley climbed the seam and, thanks partially to a crackback block from WR Josh Reynolds that would now be illegal, took it to the house:https://t.co/5E1aqweeIt
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) December 12, 2019
znModeratorSafety Blitz
Gurley’s New Rushing Style Works
I see a more patient runner who reads the blocks before taking an angle ala L Bell. Muscling through the trenches waiting for a big play. Doesn’t seem as fast or as strong but whatever changes he has made are working.
znModeratorRams vs. Cowboys: Which team has the edge at each position? https://t.co/7khGFx55Ax via @theramswire
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) December 12, 2019
znModerator.@RamsNFL @trapp07 is exactly who they thought he would be coming out of @UW_Football; a tackling machine. Huge stop here on 3-2. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/kGqLiCDgcK
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 12, 2019
znModeratorThanks JM
znModerator.@seattle v @RamsNFL on 3-3 on opening drive. The Rams blow the coverage and Wilson misses an opportunity to make them pay. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/5YHGwTySr6
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 12, 2019
znModeratorThe Rams were without Woods and Cooks vs. the Bears. It forced McVay to adapt and the offense is better for it now https://t.co/btkwC59bZO
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) December 12, 2019
znModeratorAaron Donald should win defensive player of the year again based off these two pictures alone #Rams pic.twitter.com/yDKNG9EsrP
— Tony Clements (@TonyClementsTC) December 9, 2019
znModeratorCROMWELL21
Rams sign DE to PS. Jeff Holland. Second year UDFA. Played for Broncos briefly last year.
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znModeratorSarina@sarina
Nsimba Webster is day-to-day (hip).
Rob Havenstein will be full participation this week.
Gerald Everett is day-to-day (knee).PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Staying true to his nickname, “Slot God” Nickell Robey-Coleman holds the 4th-Highest Coverage Snaps per Reception rate in the league this season for all corners from the slot with at least 150 coverage snapsGary Klein@LATimesklein
Michael Brockers: “I understand teams — sometimes they love a guy but they still have to let him go. That could be the situation. Hopefully it’s not. But I’ve been in this business long enough to understand that some tough choices have to be made.”Cooper Kupp had a productive game, including a touchdown, while playing only 20 snaps in McVay’s evolving offense.
The Rams’ loss to the Ravens is apparently now in Voldemort territory: “the game we won’t talk about anymore,” quipped McVay.
Los Angeles Rams@RamsNFL
“My main focus is to try to find a way to keep winning, and find ourselves in a playoff game.” –
@AaronDonald99. Aaron Donald talks about potentially winning his 3rd Consecutive Defensive Player of The Year Award, and Sunday’s matchup against the Dallas Cowboys.Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Rams HC Sean McVay on whether he’d be apprehensive to make changes to current OL if RT Rob Havenstein is ready to go:“We’re going to monitor that as the week progresses. It’s something we feel good about.”
No decision yet on capacity Havenstein would be used if he’s full-go.
If Webster is unable to play against the Cowboys, Rams coach Sean McVay said each of the team’s three starting wide receivers – Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods and Brandin Cooks – are capable of filling in as the punt returner.
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