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znModeratorJustin Herbert was dazzling on Day One of the Senior Bowl, and could be creeping into the upper echelon of the first round. Plus some intriguing defensive standouts that could be @Raiders targets on Day Two of the draft. My story from Alabama: https://t.co/ICeghbz7Zl
— Vincent Bonsignore (@VinnyBonsignore) January 22, 2020
znModerator2020 Senior Bowl Practices Film Review: South Day 1 https://t.co/eMQ3ehE0ZY pic.twitter.com/z6mcDcTOPt
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) January 22, 2020
znModeratorden-the-coach
not easy for a Head Coach to lose a Super Bowl and come back win one, but it’s happened twice since the 70’s with Dick Vermeil coming back to win with the Rams after losing to the Raiders as Eagle Head Coach and then Bill Cowher did losing in 1995 to Dallas and coming back to win it in 2005 against Seattle. So just twice since 1978, when Tom Landry won one against the Broncos…And it happpened before with Landry losing to the Colts in 1971 and coming back to destroy Miami in 72 and then Shula does it in 73. If you stretch back into the 60’s, Don Shula lost his first Super Bowl as coach of the Colts, vs. the Jets.
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Aaron Donald has been named PFF’s Defensive Player of the Year 4 times in 6 seasons.That’s absolutely absurd
J.B. Long@JB_Long
In 2020, you’ll hear many versions of the #LARams aiming “to get back to the postseason.”If they’re contenders, the real goal will be “to earn a bye.” 2012 Ravens remain the last Wild Card to reach the Super Bowl.
And in 4 of last 5 years, 13 wins were required for an NFC bye.
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from https://www.therams.com/news/offseason-outlook-options-for-lb-cory-littleton
Scouting service Pro Football Focus (PFF), which evaluated 179 linebackers in the regular season, gave [Littleton] the highest tackle grade at his position with a 91.6. A 90.0 or higher is considered an elite grade, and Littleton was the only one to accomplish the feat among those who played at least 80 percent of their team’s defensive snaps.
The former University of Washington standout also played a pivotal role in coverage with nine pass breakups and two interceptions. PFF’s evaluation of him in that category also reinforced this, as his 82.2 coverage grade ranked ninth-highest at his position.
znModeratorBrandon Staley has only been an OLBs coach in the NFL. He's coached Khalil Mack, Von Miller and Bradley Chubb.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Rams lean Fowler > Littleton in free agency with Staley on board https://t.co/FGo0uL6gtQ
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) January 21, 2020
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znModeratorNone of them, for months.
znModeratorWell zn, you called it back when he was hired. You said he was gonna be topnotch.
Why did you think that?McVay is good, but what if he ends up being the worst coach in the division 🙂
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vAlong with having a rep for being a top coordinator, KS also has a rep for getting players to buy in at a high level. Remember, even when they were an injured mess without players at first, KS’s SF teams were still fiesty, spirited, and competitive.
But comparing him to McVay? Big difference in experience. KS has years on McV. He was an OC from 2008, including for his father. In 2013 when he was the OC for Washington, McV was his tight ends coach. So KS was a coordinator for 9 years before becoming a head coach, and McV was a coordinator for 3 years before becoming the HC. KS was coaching in the league including the assistant then position coach levels since 2003, McV since 2008.
Carroll meanwhile was a defensive coordinator starting in 1990, when McVay was 4 years old, and a head coach in 1994, when McVay was 8.
znModeratorJoe Thomas@joethomas73
Most coordinators are two column guys: one run, one pass.They think in their head,
“I haven’t called a run in awhile.”
They go over to the run column and spin the roulette wheel, call whatever run the ball lands on…
Then back to the pass column.
Kyle Shannahan as an offensive coordinator: Everything fits together like a puzzle.
He’s a one column offense coordinator, plays flow together like a story…
znModeratorIf I’m not mistaken the Packers also got humiliated by
Kaepernik’s ground game a while back, in the Playoffs.
Didnt he run, for like, a million yards against them?w
vYeah, the divisional round, 2012. (The year the Rams tied SF with overtime once and then beat them in overtime in game 2). Kaepernick rushed 16 times for 181 yards and 2 TDs against GB and SF took it 45-31. The running game total, not just CK, was SF for 323 yards.
The big difference I s’pose is that this time, 2019 playoffs, Shanahan planned a running attack GB could not stop. That time, CK was improvising.
GB also lost to the CK 9ers in the wild card round in 2013. In that game SF won by a FG kicked with no time left, 23-20. CK ran 7 times for 98 yards. The running game total, not just CK, was SF for 167 yards.
In the years since then GB also lost in the playoffs to Seattle (2014) once and Arizona once (2015).
Green Bay with its Winter Wonderland & jingle bells vibe just can’t handle playing those much tougher, more physical west coast teams.
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znModerator🎶 Hello darkness, my old friend 🎶 pic.twitter.com/Bf6jSjlqyY
— theScore (@theScore) January 21, 2020
znModeratorTough year for 72 year old DC’s.
Romeo is a great coach and person. Wade Phillips https://t.co/s1hDpxcHRT— Wade Phillips (@sonofbum) January 20, 2020
January 20, 2020 at 6:47 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #110597
znModeratorI’m trying to imagine a bunch of non-white guys walking thru the streets of an American city with masks on while carrying assault rifles.
Actually, I can’t. https://t.co/ulDuUBgy7D
— Sage Rosenfels (@SageRosenfels18) January 20, 2020
znModerator1 year ago to the day! Greg Zuerlein made the greatest kick in franchise history. I was there! I can’t even begin to explain the emotions I felt. When the ball was in the air all I could hear was the silent gasp of countless thousands! Then I could only hear our cheers. Cheers! pic.twitter.com/WW11FJ48ay
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) January 20, 2020
znModeratorProblem with LA Times articles is that they limit your access. Mine for example has run out for the month. That means if you want people to read it, for the most part, that requires copying it and posting it here.
znModeratorThe in-game adjustments by Andy Reid for the @chiefs yesterday were exactly what was needed with what he has. @patrickmahomes + these weapons + this coach is a tough out. Get you a coach for your QB like Reid!! @arrowheadpride @getupespn @laurarutledge with the tee up 👏 pic.twitter.com/Uva3gVNzdJ
— Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) January 20, 2020
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"This was a 9-7 football team masquerading as 14-3… The stats and the record didn't fool my eyes. I didn't buy the Packers all year." — @ColinCowherd pic.twitter.com/kV3wTQ1s4p
— Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) January 20, 2020
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Coaches searching for redemption. The best tight ends in the league. Dee Ford against his old team. @KalynKahler on the top storylines in Super Bowl LIV: https://t.co/S2kuTnG4fn
— The MMQB (@theMMQB) January 20, 2020
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The Packers were shook by the 49ers' ability to gash them on the ground… and they made some big mistakes in the process… pic.twitter.com/5Mtj2CSCQa
— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) January 20, 2020
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🚨 the @49ers run game scheme wise is great. The way all 11 on offense execute is even greater. @JuiceCheck44 absolutely mind bottles Martinez here. @mattbarrows @nfldraftscout @NinersNation @TheNinersWire #NFLGamepass pic.twitter.com/4I8mKT7BDs
— Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) January 20, 2020
znModeratorFour of the five stages of grief, denial, anger, bargaining, and depression, brought to you by the New York Times Opinion folks upon realizing Bernie is going to win. pic.twitter.com/Rl0Edw5jM4
— Warren's spirit guide is a fucking snake. (@hatetotheparty) January 17, 2020
znModeratorJohn Johnson 'learned a lot about the game' while out with injury https://t.co/8Ox3V6M9ED
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) January 20, 2020
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
In the last 12 years, an NFC West team has made the Super Bowl 6 times – the same number as the other 3 divisions *combined*It’s been the best division in football
Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmer
FWIW, this is the first all-red Super Bowl. Before this, the closest uniform color schemes were Colts-Cowboys and Bills-Giants. Maybe I’m missing one.
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znModeratorSam Monson@PFF_Sam
You can make good cases for the Ravens and Saints, but KC/SF feels like the right Super Bowl after everything, right?Two legit powerhouses, not a lot of faults.
Frank Schwab@YahooSchwab
I usually have an initial opinion on the Super Bowl. Not always right but usually feel strong one way or another. This one I have no idea right now. Great matchup.Eric Branch@Eric_Branch
Kyle Shanahan on why #49ers had 42 runs and eight passes: “Because it was working.”Adam Harstad@AdamHarstad
Coaches with more career wins than Andy Reid:
Don Shula
George Halas
Bill Belichick
Tom Landry
Curly Lambeau
Paul Brown
That’s the list
znModeratorClash Of The Horns@RamfamPodcaster
Give me your top 3 rams draft needs if you were about to draft 3 decent players in 3 different positions??!!𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉@Jim_Everett
Trenches
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TrenchesAndy Aydlett@uscandy
Are you surprised the Rams haven’t officially announced their new coordinators @Rich_Hammond?Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Yes.
znModeratorAll the different types of NFL players arriving to the stadium 😂😂😂 @thecheckdown @TwitterSports pic.twitter.com/SjvwWksUp8
— Andrew Hawkins (@Hawk) January 19, 2020
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Kind of expected a better NFC championship game.Hub Arkush@Hub_Arkush
Say what you want but don’t accuse the Packers of not showing up. They’re just not good enough to hang with the 9ers and we’ve known it all season long.trey wingo@wingoz
He threw it 8 times. Fewest in the history of a conference champsionship game. Sorry if the facts upset you. He went an hour and half without attempting a pass..Nick Wagoner@nwagoner
#49ers open as 1-point underdogs in Super Bowl LIV, per @CaesarsEntClarence Hill Jr@clarencehilljr
Robert Saleh and Eric Bienemy couldn’t get head coaching jobs but they will settle for trips to the Super BowlLA Rams Fan Zone@LARamsFanZone
For those not keeping track, another Steve Spagnolo defense has made it to the Super Bowl. Ahhhh Spags, we knew you well.
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NFL Conference Championship Game Takeaways: Mahomes is invincible, Niners run game blows minds, Packers offense with another dud, Derrick Henry goes nowhere and Chiefs poised to rule the AFC forever
https://t.co/290aSe7h9A— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) January 20, 2020
49ers run over Packers en route to Super Bowl LIV in Miamihttps://t.co/j5HycYMIoJ
— PFF (@PFF) January 20, 2020
znModeratorYeah camels don;t store water in their humps. That’s sharks that do that.
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znModeratorAmy Trask@AmyTrask
one of the toughest road environments in which we played during my years in the league was @chiefs – the fans are tremendous – they can be like sharks who smell blood in the water and create a feeding frenzy – and I mean that in the most complimentary sense.Next Gen Stats@NextGenStats
The @Titans have struggled to generate pressure according to our Hurry Probability Model (i.e. survival analysis), forcing a hurry within 3 seconds of the snap on just 7% of dropbacks.Geoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
Titans fans… Y’all are rushing 3 defenders most plays against an offensive line that’s in the AFCCG. Bad OLs don’t play in this round. You aren’t getting a holding call. Y’all are getting stoned by the Chiefs OL.Steve Palazzolo@PFF_Steve
Every failed third down is a dropped pass. Mahomes has been awesomeJames Light@JamesALight
My favorite NFL scheme is Pat Mahomes…==
Chiefs offense carving up the Titans defensepic.twitter.com/wO9ZKRCXeD
— PFF (@PFF) January 19, 2020
znModeratorWhy is it, that Marcus Peters played great for the Chiefs, before he came to the Rams. And then played great for the Ravens after he left the Rams ?
Am i right about that, btw?
I have been wondering about this, in connection with the decision to let Wade go.
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vYou’re partly right but I think a lot of it is an illusion. There was a period in 2018 where Talib was out and both Peters and Wade thought Peters could play man. It was disastrous. They then got Talib back and played more zone to favor Peters. The secondary was fine through the post-season, for example.
I think the idea that Peters played badly with the Rams is an illusion that comes in when they do an average of his grades for his total Rams starts, and the short period where he was a disaster tilts the numbers.
Baltimore wanted him because he fit their defense perfectly and they could count on him just being himself. So he had no severe down period with the Ravens.
If any Rams official or coach doubted Wade because of Peters, I would question their judgment. The Rams are currently the deepest we have ever seen them at CB. First they traded away 2 starters, and the two new starters played well. That was expected of Ramsey but not Hill. Then those 2 missed some games near the end and THEIR replacements played well—Williams and Long. In fact, Wms played exceptionally well. Add to that the fact that Robey-Coleman is regularly described as one of the top slot corners in the league.
So they traded away 2 starters, and then the 2 new starters were good, and then they got injured, and then their 2 replacements were good. THAT is not supposed to happen. Losing 2 corners is supposed to kill you, let alone 4.
And the Rams unusual and extraordinary depth at CB has got to have something to do with coaching. Either that or some form of supernatural intervention.

Wade gets credit for that. He built the deepest Rams secondary we’ve ever seen or heard of.
So no to me, Peters does not indicate anything. Except that he should never have been playing man coverage in that period when Talib was out. But then when Talib came back they fixed it.
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January 19, 2020 at 11:41 am in reply to: The AFC & NFC Conference Championships: set-up, predictions #110549
znModeratorPFF: The Tennessee Titans’ offensive line has transformed their offense
SAM MONSON
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-tennessee-titans-offensive-line-has-transformed-their-offense
Few teams are as unrecognizable in playoff guise from their early-season selves as the Tennessee Titans, a team that was once 2-4 before making a quarterback change and marching into the playoffs to knock off the New England Patriots and the Baltimore Ravens on their way to the AFC Championship game.
Obviously, multiple things have changed for the Titans, most of them for the better. Derrick Henry has been on a historic run of record-setting yardage totals over the past few games. Ryan Tannehill was one of the most efficient quarterbacks in the game from the moment he assumed the starting job and actually ended the regular season as the highest-graded passer at PFF, and the defense has actually taken steps forward when the games mattered most. But one of the most significant changes — the improvement in offensive line play — is flying under the radar.
After six weeks, when the team was two games under .500, the highest-graded member of the line was center Ben Jones at 75.5, and three of the five starters had a run-blocking grade under 50.0. Over that same span, Derrick Henry ranked just 11th in rushing yardage and was averaging only 3.7 yards per attempt (34th).
From Week 7 onwards, though, the only member of their line who has earned an overall PFF grade under 70.0 is rookie guard Nate Davis, and he is the only one of the group who has surrendered more than two sacks. Their tackles, Taylor Lewan and Jack Conklin, have each earned grades above 80.0 and have been grading well as both run blockers and pass protectors. Left guard Rodger Saffold looked like a disaster early in the year, but since he recovered from injury and got comfortable within the system, he has looked like the player who earned his free-agent deal in the first place.
In the playoffs, Lewan has the highest run-blocking grade of any player to have appeared in both weeks of action (90.5), and Conklin is second. It’s not a coincidence that the line suddenly dominating has corresponded with Henry’s historic yardage total.

Take a look at this play for a good example of how blocking can influence rushing production even though stats might make it look like it’s all Derrick Henry. This is a 10-yard run on first down, and it’s certainly a strong carry, but look at what Lewan does to his man to open the rushing lane that Henry is able to run into.
Lewan takes his man eight yards off the line of scrimmage, and the path of the back is exactly where those two were supposed to be at the line. If that block isn’t as crushing as it is, Henry has to do work to even find a crease at the line instead of continuing to build a head of steam in a straight line along his original path. Lewan dominated so thoroughly that his man is actually the guy who makes the tackle 10 yards downfield, which, by the way, is a reason why tackle totals are a terrible statistic. This isn’t a hustle play; this is a guy getting killed in the run game and stopping the ball carrier he could have dealt with at the line of scrimmage 10 yards downfield. But I digress.
If we’re looking at this game through the prism of stats, even advanced ones, it will look like this was the product of Henry rather than blocking. Henry gets contacted by the arm of diving linebacker Elandon Roberts as he crosses the line of scrimmage, and then he gets more concrete contact from Kyle Van Noy two yards into the run, so depending on your definition of “after contact,” Henry is gaining at least eight of his ten yards on this play after contact. But Roberts is trying to fill a huge hole from a distance because of the block of Lewan, and Van Noy can’t ever get clear of the block of Jonnu Smith, and he can’t make a tackle because of it. Henry is able to brush aside that contact because the block of Lewan, in particular, gave him a huge pathway to get going. Had that block been even close to a stalemate, Henry would have had to adjust his path at the line of scrimmage and had no kind of momentum when contact came. Blocking directly influences numbers like yards after contact and even broken tackles.

The Baltimore game is a similar story. Henry gets some hard yards up the middle on this play, but the blocking is excellent, and Lewan, again, is the person who buys him the crease to gain seven yards from a play that typically earns a lot less. Lewan perfectly executes his cutoff block and is able to wall off his man and hold his ground enough to open a crease for Henry to hit at pace and keep trucking.
This isn’t meant to diminish Henry’s achievements. After all, the whole idea of football is that an entire unit executing their individual assignments will have maximum success. However, it is meant to put his historic statistics into some kind of context. Equally, there were runs across both games where Henry was the primary reason for positive yardage, but we must factor all of these things in together, rather than award all of the credit to any one individual.
Henry has been the beneficiary of some truly excellent blocking to gain the yardage he has, and that’s true even when some statistics would suggest he is doing all the work himself. Just because a back is gaining a lot of the yards after contact does not necessarily mean the blocking was anything other than excellent, which is why PFF grades are such a vital part of the equation.
Ultimately, the focus will be on Henry, and to a lesser extent, Ryan Tannehill, when the Titans try and upset their third consecutive opponent. Both of those players have had huge effects on this offense, and as a team, they have shown they can win with either taking the starring role, but we need to remember that they have both been able to succeed because of the platform given to them because of the transformation of the offensive line.
znModeratorFormer Rams to play key roles in NFC and AFC Championship Games https://t.co/JYYtiJr2ZT
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) January 19, 2020
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