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znModeratorVery good stuff here by @FB_FilmAnalysis on the Brady-Arians marriage. Awesome article.https://t.co/OcT4LrUTyQ
— Moo (@PFF_Moo) March 19, 2020
znModeratorEmergency podcast! https://t.co/LqF7BnKKLz
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) March 19, 2020
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Draft interest doesn’t lie. Rams have been sniffing around the RBs this year, meeting with a few at the combine. That was the first clear sign Gurley might be gone.Todd Gurley finished his Rams career 6th in franchise history with 5,405 rushing yards. He’s also tied with Marshall Faulk for the most rushing TDs (58) in Rams history, too.
Steven Jackson@sj39
The value of a player to his team is never truly calculated. @TG3II talent brought to @RamsNFL backfield every time you took the field reflected in the stat sheet but also from your opponents post game interviews. Wherever your future takes you, continue to be great G. #RespectMatt Bowen@MattBowen41
Interested to see the FA market for RB Todd Gurley…Straight-line/power runner. Fits in zone schemes. Receiving traits on screen concepts, swings, throws to the flat.
Explosive play production has declined. Didn’t show the same burst/acceleration on his ‘19 film.
ESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
Todd Gurley has scored 70 touchdowns in his career.The only player in NFL history to score more TDs at age 25 or younger is Hall-of-Famer Emmitt Smith.
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This franchise has had some legendary runners. Is Hendo next to carry the torch? pic.twitter.com/7RUo4bVqhz
— Sosa K (@QBsMVP) March 19, 2020
znModeratorSaints HC Sean Payton says he tested positive for coronavirushttps://t.co/GCvFsdkR1S
— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) March 19, 2020
znModeratorDamn I got fired on my day off😂 #QuaratineAndChill
— Todd Gurley II (@TG3II) March 19, 2020
znModeratorSosa K@QBsMVP
Clay Matthews (jokingly) said to Mike Silver: “I guess I should’ve gone to the Ravens last year, huh?”.That’s pretty funny lmao, and also very true.
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
The Rams are going to eat $20.15 million in cap space. Wow.That’s wrong.
You don’t have to wait until June 1st anymore to designate it as a June 1 release.
As per —>
Field Yates@FieldYates
Source: the Rams released RB Todd Gurley with a post-June 1 designation, meaning the team will spread the dead money cap charges over two seasons. The team will also see $5.5M in cap savings that becomes available on June 2.Tom Pelissero@TomPelissero
The #Rams still owe Todd Gurley a $7.55 million roster bonus tomorrow, but escape the additional $10.5M in salary and bonuses that would’ve become fully guaranteed at 4 p.m. He leaves behind $20.15M in dead money on the salary cap over the next two years.A portion of that roster bonus tomorrow ($2.5 million) is subject to offsets, meaning if Gurley signs elsewhere, the #Rams can get some of the money back. As it stands now, L.A. will have paid $34.5M on the extension he signed in July 2018.
Jason_OTC@Jason_OTC
#Rams can earn a partial offset on the Gurley guarantee when he signs elsewhere.==
Joel Corry@corryjoel
Todd Gurley was scheduled to make $11,949,978 in the last 2 years of his rookie deal. Gurley gets $34.5M from the extension ($2.5M with offset), which is $22,550,022 more than playing out his rookie contract.
znModerator𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉@Jim_Everett
Clay released. Didn’t see that one coming…but makes sense now as the defense is moving to a younger & more physical presence verses in conference run game competition.
znModeratorGregg Rosenthal@greggrosenthal
It’s rough, but the Rams aren’t cutting Gurley for cap reasons. They are cutting him because they don’t think he can help them win.Myles Simmons@MylesASimmons
Gurley was one of my favorite players to cover in my time with the Rams. Sometimes the business of football stinks.Just thinking about this. When Gurley signed his extension at the beginning of training camp in ‘18, I asked him about knowing he’d play in the new stadium in 2020 with the contract extension, and I remember him enthusiastically saying, “Yeah! Now we know!”
Cold world, man
Johnny Hekker@JHekker
I’ll always be a Gurley Man. @TG3II was a hell of a teammate and overcame a ton to contribute however he could. I wish him nothing but the best moving forward. Our franchise has banners because of that man. Nothing but love.Billy M@BillyM_91
As if you needed to hear it again, this lesson of Gurley is evidence A that you should never pay a RB a big deal.
znModeratorThere's a long list of things I'd rather do than watch this man play for another team.
Will always be my RB. https://t.co/sawYs3utL7
— Los Angeles Rams UK (@LARams_UK) March 19, 2020
znModeratorThe Rams announced they have released RB Todd Gurley
They actually did it. https://t.co/L0r2zwcuui
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 19, 2020
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams@RamsNFL
@JaredGoff16 + Andrew Whitworth are each donating $250,000 to the @LAFoodBank to help fund 2 million meals for Angelenos in need.
znModeratorI'm old enough to remember when Joe Biden said Italy has a universal healthcare system and they're struggling with COVID-19 which is proof we don't need one.
That was Sunday.
Italy gave us COVID-19 testing supplies on Monday. https://t.co/xDemPScqnA
— Lee 🐣 Carter (@carterforva) March 19, 2020
znModeratorLMU93
I’m not saying this is a 13-3 year or an 8-8 year. WAY too early to speculate. Free agency started a day ago… What I think it is, though, is a year where coaching and their key performers matter more than ever. It’s a 53-man team and they have a lot of gaps to backfill to be sure. And some spots like Littleton’s and Fowler’s may be “downgraded” in the short term.
But I do think people can also forget or dismiss what this team has- which is a lot… I still go back to 2019 and summarize it by saying they played the 1st or 2nd hardest schedule in the league with a bottom-tier OL and without the injury luck they had in 2017 and 2018.
Priorities? To me it still starts with improving the OL. We can debate the virtues of retaining Blythe and Whiworth but they still could and should be a better (maybe not top 3 like 2017 and 2018, but better) OL in 2020 if they upgrade the LG spot, keep Blythe at C (where he’s clearly better), and get solid year two improvement from Evans and Edwards.
IF the OL is better, Goff will be better. Period. And they have two upper echelon WRs and a TE that seemed to finally break out. Defensively, they need DL depth, some more edge help, etc. But they also have two of the top defensive players in the league and an excellent secondary overall.
Just saying… a lot of teams wish they had what the Rams do as of March 19th….
znModeratorAndrew Whitworth (Rams), three years, $30M, $12.5M gtd, $5M signing bonus, salaries $5M (gtd), $7M, $7.5M; $2.5M third day 2021 roster bonus gtd for inj at signing, fully gtd five days after deal executed, $3M 3rd day 2022 roster bonus,
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 19, 2020
Andrew Whitworth has 2022 option bonus to be exercised before 6th day prior to start of lg year, $1.5M incentive annual, $1.5M 2021-22 base escalator
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 19, 2020
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from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/19/nfl-rams-andrew-whitworth-contract-details/
The Rams, being the creatives that they are, put an unusual option bonus in his contract, too, according to Ian Rapoport. He was on NFL Network Thursday and explained Whitworth’s contract, saying that he has a $77 bonus added in, as a tribute to his jersey number.
“He gets $12.5 million, fully guaranteed, which means $2.5 million fully guaranteed comes not this year, but next year,” Rapoport said. “So whether he plays or not, he still gets more than $2 million. Plus, because the Rams are weird and quirky, he gets a $77 option bonus. Not $77,000, not $7,700. $77, because that’s his jersey number.”
Rapoport also reported that for Whitworth, “his options were retirement or play only for the Rams.” The veteran left tackle made it clear that he wanted to return to the Rams early in the offseason, and Sean McVay wanted him back, too, which made this an obvious signing for Los Angeles.
znModeratorfrom https://ramblinfan.com/2020/03/18/la-rams-plan-find-money-sign-dt-ashawn-robinson/
Keep in mind that he has ties to new special teams coordinator John Bonamego, who filled a similar role with the Lions in 2019, the year Robinson played 39 snaps on special teams. Despite the down season, which some attribute to a nagging knee injury, he must have gotten a good endorsement by Bonamego. And he should, as his 2018 PFF grade was an outstanding 89.7.
While this will impact the Rams’ efforts to be awarded 2021 NFL Comp picks, the terms of his salary will likely negate the likelihood of a Rams’ fourth-round comp pick.
We’ll have more in the near future. But this is a good signing for the Rams, as Robinson has a very high ceiling in the right scheme, is incredibly versatile for a big man, and will fill a vacancy which will allow the upcoming NFL Draft to focus upon best player available.
znModeratorI think Robinson’s contract, may have lost us one of our 4th round picks. Unless Legatron gets signed to a massive deal somewhere. What is sad, Danny Shelton, signs for $4M a year.
No Robinson was cut if I recall. He doesn’t lose them a comp pick.
I recalled wrong. Looks like you’re right Jack. This will cost them one of their 4th round picks.
znModeratorDeadpool
I had [Robinson] as the top DT in a good class, but he fell into the 2nd round. I think it was the lack of consistency that did him in. That, or the fact that the Alabama defense was so stacked no one got the credit they deserved.
He was explosive at Alabama, with all day power and an ability to anchor against the run like no one else in the country. I think paired with AD, he can absorb some of those double teams and free up his teammates to flow to the football. At 330 lbs, I doubt he has that explosive first step, but he isn’t going to get blown up against the run.
znModeratorA more detailed comparison between Fowler and Floyd, counting sacks, Tackles for Loss, & QB hits.
YEAR SACKS TFL QB HITS TTL
Floyd under Fangio/Staley
2016 7.0 … 6 … 9 = 22
2017 4.5 … 8 … 12 = 24.5
2018 4.0 … 9 … 11 = 24
ttl = 15.5 .. 23 … 32 = 70Floyd under Pagano
2018 3.0 … 3 … 12 = 18
Fowler in Jacksonville
2016 4.0 … 6 … 11 = 21
2017 8.0 … 7 … 10 = 25
2018 4.0 … 5 … 6 = 15
ttl 16 … 18 … 27 = 61Fowler in LA
2018 11.5 … 16 … 16 = 43.5
znModeratorI think Robinson’s contract, may have lost us one of our 4th round picks. Unless Legatron gets signed to a massive deal somewhere. What is sad, Danny Shelton, signs for $4M a year.
No Robinson was cut if I recall. He doesn’t lose them a comp pick.
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znModeratorI assume we can all agree on that. The team that went 9-7, is now less talented, as of today.
I keep thinking of Gurley, btw. So much was lost when his knee went south.
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vWell I don’t know–that’s a tough call. And really depends.
I won’t do a long version of this.
Unit by unit.
* secondary is amazingly deep and gets Johnson back
* IMO depends on Matthews? lots of youngsters, hard to say
* youngsters coming up, hard to say
* OL could start out stronger than in 2019
* WRs–depends on Cooks, ie. whether he stays and/or is better than last year, which is possible (he improved toward the end last year)
* Goff…could have learned from last year, ought to be better w/stable running game & OL
* RB…they could draft one making this unit stronger than last year
* TE…if Higbee picks up where he left off, then TE could be stronger than it has been since I don’t know what year, but going way back
* STs…GZ fell off, maybe his replacement will be steadierThey might be less talented player by player on paper, yet more cohesive and more effective overall
znModeratorA’Shawn Robinson
Position: DT
6-4, 330lbhttps://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/01/nfl-draft-scouting-report-ashawn-robinson-alabama
Strengths: Did a lot as a two-gap tackle to create opportunities for those around him to excel. Plays effectively everywhere from zero-tech straight over center to run-stopping end. Aggressive leverage player who frequently bends blockers back with strong legs and an impressive bull-rush. Occasionally will simply toss a blocker aside. Can put a blocker on the tracks and rock him all the way through the pocket when he wins the timing and leverage battles. Frequently demands double-teams and chips even with the estimable talent along Alabama’s defensive line. Slips off blocks quickly to wrap up the ballcarrier, and has excellent tackling form—Robinson builds a wall when he’s got his feet under him. Consistently re-directs blockers when he tags one shoulder and wrestles them out of position. Strong enough to move one and two blockers laterally to the ballcarrier at times. Has a dominant initial punch when he uses it: has 34 1/4″ arms and has that “one-inch punch” that takes blockers out of plays entirely. Has excellent flexibility to re-direct to the ball, and diagnoses well to get there. NFL-ready from a power perspective. Doesn’t flow from sideline to sideline, but appears to have the potential to do so.
Weaknesses: Two-year starter who played 57% of Alabama’s defensive snaps over the last two seasons. Game isn’t fully developed yet. Tends to wait and pause too often off the snap, which leaves him vulnerable to quicker blockers who establish the point of attack advantage. Needs to mush-rush less and trust his natural aggressiveness more. Gets lost in the wash when he plays too high, and with his height, he needs to pay special attention to that. Occupies blockers very well, but may have to change his mentality to disengage more quickly at the NFL level. Needs to develop a signature pass-rush move and use his hands more effectively in general. Gets into the pocket with power over technique. Doesn’t yet have the ability to knife through double teams. Must keep his legs pumping throughout the play, as he can be taken off his line by more persistent blockers.
Conclusion: There are a lot of dings in Robinson’s game at this point, which is why he’s one of the most polarizing players in this draft class. There are some who see him as a two-down run-stopping guy with very limited pass-rush ability, and others who think he’s got the potential in the right system to be a top-flight lineman at the nose and three-tech spots. As a two-gap hole-clogger who was often directed to dominate at the line so others could make plays, Robinson has the capacity to move to a one-gap attack defense and redefine his classifications over time.
Scouts and executives will tell you that when evaluating players, you can’t just focus on the players who project most easily to your scheme, you have to look at the traits and attributes that fit what your team wants to do over time. Most likely, Robinson’s NFL team will not want him soaking up blocks and mush-rushing as often as he had in the past, and most likely not in a two-gap system. Ideally, he’d be coached to improve his pass-rush moves as he knifes through double-teams, using his raw strength to stop the run at a very high level. When you watch his 2013 tape, when he was allowed to pursue more, that version of A’shawn Robinson shows up more often. And that version of A’Shawn Robinson is a top-16 pick, and could be even more valuable than that in the end.
Pro Comparison: Michael Brockers, Rams (first round, 2012, LSU)
March 18, 2020 at 9:00 pm in reply to: ARZ trades for Deandre Hopkins, SF trades Buckner to Colts #112572
znModeratorDeAndre Hopkins said Bill O'Brien compared him to Aaron Hernandez and criticized Hopkins for having the mothers of his children around too much, per Michael Irvin on @GetUpESPN pic.twitter.com/2pyNrj3FJ3
— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) March 18, 2020
znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheet
The #Rams tried to keep [Fowler], but he opts for Atlanta.
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
I’d give it a B+. $10M feels kinda expensive, but he’s a good run defender, familiar with Staley and has pass-rush upside with his length and athleticismAustin Wilson@AUS10SPORTS
He’s also oddly really good at coverage for a OLB.
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
I’m not exactly sure what people thought the Rams were going to accomplish this week. We’ve spent weeks talking about limited cap room. They re-signed Whitworth and signed a Fowler replacement. To me, that essentially was the most-likely scenario.Actually, I should be honest/transparent and say I thought the most-likely scenario was them signing Whitworth and a Littleton replacement, but nonetheless.
as things stand now, the Rams are going to have to structure a contract or make another move (trade/cut) just to fit in these two salaries they have added.
znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheet
The #Rams are giving LT Andrew Whitworth a 3-year deal worth $30M, source said. He can get up to $37.5M — $12.5M fully guaranteed. It’s the highest paying contract signed by 35+ year old non-QB in NFL history.
znModeratordzrams
Fowler and Floyd were drafted in the same year in round 1. Fowler was drafted 3rd, Floyed 9th.
Both underachieved for the first 3 years of their career. Fowler exploded in 2019 but was that due to playing next to AD?
Let’s look at their stats over the 3 prior years (2016-2018):
Fowler
Combined Sacks: 21
PFF pass rush grade: 58.7 to 68.4
PFF overall defensive grade: 59.5 to 66.3Floyd
Combined Sacks: 19
PFF pass rush grade: 57.8 to 64.8
PFF overall defensive grade: 63.8 to 69.6Fowler has consistently had slightly better pass rush numbers with the PFF metrics and in sacks and QB hurries but Floyd has consistently been graded better in run defense and coverage. Looking at the overall PFF grade, it’s a wash.
I think Fowler benefited a lot from the AD factor
znModeratorhttp://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/leonard-floyd?id=2555285
“Bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio was in San Francisco when it drafted Aldon Smith. Floyd is very similar. He is one of the most polarizing conversations in the entire draft. He has a ‘wow’ get-off and he bends like Gumby. I don’t know if he can convert speed to power in that pass rush. He has the best burst and get-off in this entire draft. He’s a sub-package, designated pass rusher on Day 1, just like Aldon Smith was in San Francisco.” — Mike Mayock
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