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znModeratorI tried adding to that thread twice and my posts simply vaporized.
I got em back, right?
May 29, 2020 at 4:37 pm in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115423
znModeratorAnd I had seen that story about the umbrella guy and his violence. It’s still not quite definitive enough as a story for me yet, but I am far from automatically doubting it.
Yeah, at this point, the only thing I can really say about it is that it wouldn’t surprise me. But it is not definitive. Not that it matters to me, really. Either way, it will just be used by one side to change the subject.
znModeratorHall of Famer @OrlandoPace_HOF engulfs 3 time pro bowler Hugh Douglas, protecting Kurt Warner’s blind side pic.twitter.com/cpHGwgWJUa
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) May 29, 2020
May 29, 2020 at 2:23 pm in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115418
znModeratorNot sure what just happened. Do links to FB just go up in flames?
We have an extra twitchy spam protector that sometimes just paranoiacally overreacts to certain links and marks them as “pending,” which means they have to be approved. (So far I haven’t seen a pattern in its overreactions, it just happens.) The alternative is to be bombarded with spam (which has happened). I apologize for the inconvenience and can only say that I check several times a day to see if any posts need to be “approved.”
And I had seen that story about the umbrella guy and his violence. It’s still not quite definitive enough as a story for me yet, but I am far from automatically doubting it.
znModeratorOh, and a CNN reporter got arrested and Floyd’s killer(s) haven’t been.
Yeah I got stuff on that, in here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/police-v-demonstrators-protesting-killing-of-george-floyd/
May 29, 2020 at 8:38 am in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115398
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CNN crew released from police custody after they were arrested live on air in Minneapolis
(CNN)A CNN crew was arrested while giving a live television report Friday morning in Minneapolis — and then released about an hour later — as the crew covered ongoing protests over the death in police custody of George Floyd.
State police detained CNN correspondent Omar Jimenez, his producer and his cameraman shortly after 5 a.m. CT (6 a.m. ET) as Jimenez was reporting live from a street south of downtown, near where a police precinct was earlier set ablaze.
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz told CNN Worldwide President Jeff Zucker that he deeply apologizes for what happened and would work to have the crew released.
Jimenez and the others — producer Bill Kirkos and photojournalist Leonel Mendez — were taken to the city’s downtown public safety building, but were released after 6 a.m. CT.
Jimenez, after his release, then reported live outside from downtown, and said he’d been treated cordially after he’d been led away.
“We’re doing OK, now. There were a few uneasy moments there,” Jimenez said.
The arrest
The crew were handcuffed and detained as Jimenez gave a live report on a Minneapolis street. A line of state troopers had just recently arrived in the area, which city police seemed to have abandoned for hours overnight after the police precinct building was set on fire.
Police told the crew they were being detained because they were told to move, and didn’t, one member of the CNN crew relayed to the network.
“A CNN reporter and his production team were arrested this morning in Minneapolis for doing their jobs, despite identifying themselves — a clear violation of their First Amendment rights. The authorities in Minnesota, including the Governor, must release the three CNN employees immediately,” CNN said in a statement shortly after their arrest.
Officers approached the crew as they moved in to arrest a protester behind them.
Jimenez could be seen holding his CNN badge while reporting, identifying himself as a reporter, and telling the officers the crew would move wherever officers needed them to. An officer gripped his arm as Jimenez talked, then put him in handcuffs.
“We can move back to where you like. We are live on the air here. … Put us back where you want us. We are getting out of your way — wherever you want us (we’ll) get out of your way,” Jimenez said before he was led away.
“We were just getting out of your way when you were advancing through the intersection,” Jimenez said.
After the CNN photographer was arrested, his camera was set on the ground and continued to transmit live images.
Jimenez and the crew had been reporting from the site, near a city police department precinct that protesters had burned and officers had abandoned overnight. About a block away, a fire was burning at a different, four-story building that had contained restaurants.
Over 100 state police officers in body armor and riot gear had arrived shortly before 5 a.m. CT and lined up near the area where the CNN crew was, near the precinct building on East Lake Street.
For a portion of time overnight — from sometime after city police abandoned the precinct building that was set ablaze — police weren’t in the area until the troopers arrived Friday morning, Jimenez had reported. The four-story event and restaurant building was burning unabated, and people were throwing things into the flames, Jimenez said.
A separate CNN reporter there was not arrested and ‘treated much differently’
CNN’s Josh Campell, who also was in the area but not standing with the on-air crew, said he, too, was approached by police, but was allowed to remain.
“I identified myself … they said, ‘OK, you’re permitted to be in the area,'” recounted Campbell, who is white. “I was treated much differently than (Jimenez) was.”
Jimenez is black and Latino.
Former Philadelphia police commissioner Charles Ramsey, a CNN law enforcement analyst, said the arrest made no sense.
“State police are going to have a lot to answer for this arrest here,” Ramsey said. “(Jimenez is) standing there … you can see his credential. Just move him where you want to be.”
“They should have a designated (media) area, and just tell them to move to that area.”May 28, 2020 at 11:02 pm in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115392
znModeratorDowntown denver. Some girl turned around to run this guy over #GeorgeFloyd #icantbreathe #downtowndenver #denver pic.twitter.com/eirohGGPr5
— Anabel (@bellers03) May 29, 2020
znModeratorI am just so fucking angry right now.
That’s my meme. Or maybe Tweet. Maybe this should go in the Tweet thread.
Fuck.
Floyd?
znModeratorthe wink tank asks #40BillionForWhat@piper_winks
Harvard president Bacow said that when he got COVID-19, his first thought was “This is going to be interesting.” Not “How will I earn money to feed my family?” or “How will I afford healthcare?” Those are the thoughts of his workers, who still don’t have paid sick leave or PPE.May 27, 2020 at 9:54 pm in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115376
znModeratorMORE: Video obtained by CBS News shows what appears to be the start of the confrontation between George Floyd & Minneapolis police officers. A restaurant's security footage shows cops taking him into custody, but the restaurant owner says it does not show Floyd resisting arrest. pic.twitter.com/KR8r7B1WPl
— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) May 26, 2020
znModeratorJoel Corry@corryjoel
Unfortunately, the prime of @sj39’s career was wasted on some bad Rams teams. His 2006 season is underrated.
@sj39 is the only player in NFL history besides @LT_21 to have a 90 catch/1,500 rushing yard season.
znModeratorWhy'd the NFL leak the Rooney Rule incentives? @AndrewBrandt knows and told me on today's @RTFPodcast: https://t.co/FTrNyiwbA9 pic.twitter.com/GH4joI5j62
— Ross Tucker (@RossTuckerNFL) May 27, 2020
May 27, 2020 at 9:45 pm in reply to: Police v. Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd #115372
znModeratorUniversity of Minnesota just broke a bunch of ties with the Minneapolis Police Department pic.twitter.com/PBEkl9FErZ
— Will Stancil (@whstancil) May 27, 2020
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znModeratorDugar, Michael-Shawn@MikeDugar
Seahawks left tackle Duane Brown, one of 3 players to stay in the locker room during the national anthem the past 2 years in the name of social justice, was asked if we’ve made progress there.“No.”
Torrey Smith@TorreySmithWR
I know plenty of amazing and selfless police officers but where are they when things like this happen?Their silence is alarming. The standard for people in power is to condemn the actions of those that don’t align with your mission and values.
We don’t see it enough.
J.A. Adande@jadande
This is in part because the media failed to frame the Kaepernick-inspired debate properly: Where do we stand on agents of the state killing unarmed American citizens? That question should have been the main focus.
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znModeratorfrom Sean McVay addresses RT situation, is confident Havenstein will bounce back
Sean McVay addresses RT situation, is confident Havenstein will bounce backMcVay addressed the position on a conference call with reporters on Tuesday, saying he’s confident Havenstein will rebound from an injury-plagued 2019 season. He also mentioned that Evans could play guard, which adds to the intrigue along the offensive line.
“What you feel good about at right tackle is Rob Havenstein is such a tough player. He was pushing through some injuries that I do think led to not seeing him play consistently at the level we’re accustomed to. I’m fully confident that he’ll get back to that. He’s feeling good,” McVay said. “I thought Bobby Evans being able to step in and play well toward the latter half of the season was really good for his confidence, but I’m not convinced that guy couldn’t play guard, either. So I think we’ve got some guys that are versatile – we know we have players that can play – but it’s about finding ways to get the best five on there and certain guys might have a little bit more position flex and I think until we get out and are really playing football again, that’s the challenging part of what these times entail.”
znModeratorJack, sorry to hear that. I know it’s hard, been there, so you have my heartfelt condolences. But she had a good home, and that matters a lot.
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
“I’m very excited about the way I’m going to be utilized in this defense. I’ll leave it at that. I think my talents will be shown thoroughly.” -Jalen Ramsey, responding to last week’s conversation withJalen Ramsey on an extension: “The Rams know where I stand, and I think that’s all that matters… They know what’s up. I know what’s up.”
Says he’s willing to come to training camp, even without a deal.
LindseyThiry@LindseyThiry
I asked Jalen Ramsey what he expected from the Rams CBs this season, he offered to talk about what to expect from entire secondary because, “That’s not my role anymore – to just be a CB.” Sounds like Brandon Staley will be moving him around a good amount.Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Rams head coach Sean McVay on contract extension talks with Jalen Ramsey:“The anticipation was to acquire him with the hope that he’s a Ram for a long time. We went and got this guy with the hope that it’s not a short-term thing.”
Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Byron Jones is the highest-paid CB in the NFL right now at $16.5M per year. Ramsey could push $20M, with $17M likely being his floor.Greg Beacham@gregbeacham
Sean McVay says this NFL offseason has taught him the importance of trying to “eliminate the fluff from your day.” He’s learned about the importance of balance in life, and not being obsessed with performative grinding. He’s working out more, sleeping more and drinking more wine.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Sean McVay says the Rams have a loose plan for mini and training camp like they always do this year, but are making sure it can be flexible to adjust to whatever parameters the league ultimately enforces in the coming weeks.
znModeratorTrump tells a reporter to take of coronavirus mask and stop being ‘politically correct’https://t.co/NmHrbDduIb
— Raw Story (@RawStory) May 26, 2020
znModeratorRams edge rusher Ogbonnia Okoronkwo goes into his 3rd year with a good opportunity to get plenty of reps in the rotation. Last year he had a good showcasing day against the Bengals in England. Generating 1.5 sacks pic.twitter.com/0a17V4lJ9Q
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) May 26, 2020
znModeratorIt’s a gamble but I think this is a matter of being in it for the longterm.
Does 2020 matter in itself as much as the next 3 years combined?
I will say though that Staley has a lot to work with. This is the deepest secondary I remember the Rams ever having. The DL not only has Donald, it is solid. All the real question marks are at LB but they don’t lack for potential prospects. The same guys who found Littleton have a long list of guys to work with and there’s a good chance that 1 or 2 pan out.
In terms of playcalling, we’ll see–but right now the defensive players are raving about Staley. So that’s a step in the right direction.
And has going to a new young untested coordinator ever work? Well–there’s Martz. Is there a defensive coordinator who went from obscurity as a position coach to coming through as a coordinator? Yeah Spags when he went to NY as a coordinator in 2007…that was his first DC position and he overnight turned a 25th ranked defense into a 7th ranked defense.
That’s the best I can do in terms of names, I remember what ex-Rams coaches did. But yes there are examples of what you ask about.
Which of course is no guarantee so I am as curious about Staley as you are. Though I am perhaps more optimisitic.

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znModeratorfrom Ranking the NFL’s defenses
Ranking the NFL's defenses from worst to firstWith Wade Phillips replaced by Brandon Staley, it’s up to the first-time NFL defensive coordinator to replace a living legend, and Staley will have limited resources to work with. Yes, Aaron Donald is still the best defensive player in the game, and Jalen Ramsey can be a top-flight cornerback, but pass rush, safety depth, and the cornerback group after Ramsey are question marks at this point. The ranking here is optimistic based on the talent of the front-line stars, but any deviation in performance could lead to a sub-par finish — and it’s not obvious that the Rams have the offensive firepower to make up for that. The guy to watch here is third-round pass-rusher Terrell Lewis from Alabama. Injuries abbreviated Lewis’ impact as a college player, but he showed as much talent as anybody at his position during a relatively healthy 2019 season.
znModeratorfrom Football Power Index’s full 2020 season rankings
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29196114/2020-nfl-season-projections-chances-make-super-bowl-win-division-land-top-draft-spot-more1. Kansas City Chiefs
Projected wins: 11.2
Chance to reach playoffs: 94%2. Baltimore Ravens
Projected wins: 11.0
Chance to reach playoffs: 92%3. San Francisco 49ers
Projected wins: 10.2
Chance to reach playoffs: 81%4. New Orleans Saints
Projected wins: 10.2
Chance to reach playoffs: 83%5. Dallas Cowboys
Projected wins: 9.3
Chance to reach playoffs: 69%6. Philadelphia Eagles
Projected wins: 9.1
Chance to reach playoffs: 66%7. Seattle Seahawks
Projected wins: 8.9
Chance to reach playoffs: 58%8. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Projected wins: 9.1
Chance to reach playoffs: 63%9. New England Patriots
Projected wins: 8.6
Chance to reach playoffs: 60%10. Buffalo Bills
Projected wins: 8.6
Chance to reach playoffs: 60%11. Los Angeles Rams
Projected wins: 8.3
Chance to reach playoffs: 45%
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znModeratorAs @IsaacBruce80 prepares for his enshrinement into the Hall of Fame as a member of the Class of 2020, we decided to look back at the top moments of his career that helped cement his place in Canton.
Read: https://t.co/4I2rWziJAu#PFHOF20 | @HOFExperiences | @RamsNFL pic.twitter.com/RMhHi5w3aO
— Pro Football Hall of Fame (@ProFootballHOF) May 26, 2020
znModeratorfrom PFF’s All-Clutch Team: The NFL’s best performers in the fourth quarter and overtime in 2019
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pffs-all-clutch-team-2019
DI AARON DONALD, LOS ANGELES RAMS
Name a list for interior defenders, and Donald is probably at the top. That was no different in the fourth quarter and overtime of one-score games, as Donald put up a 90.9 pass-rushing grade with 12 pressures on 60 pass-rushing snaps.
znModeratorfrom The 2010s All-Decade Underrated Team
https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/news/the-2010s-all-decade-underrated-teamOffensive Tackle
Andrew Whitworth, Cincinnati (2006-16), Los Angeles Rams (2017-Present)
After toiling away in Cincinnati for ten years, Whitworth has become more of a well-known commodity with the Rams.
As is the case with every other player, age is starting to take its toll on Whitworth, as he was so effective in both phases of the offense for the Bengals. A dominating run blocker, with an excellent anchor in pass protection is the best way to describe the former LSU Tiger.
You can also throw in durable, as other than 2008, he rarely missed any snaps. Whitworth is one of the most underappreciated players of this era, even though he’s a four-time Pro Bowler (2012, 2015-17) and a two-time, first-team All-Pro (2015 and 2017).
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