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znModeratorAnother one šÆ pic.twitter.com/j5iechxBv2
— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) June 22, 2020
znModeratoršÆšÆ pic.twitter.com/E1zaPftDNH
— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) June 22, 2020
znModeratorThe NFL's Best Quarterbacks in Pass-Heavy Games#LARams Jared Goff is listed in the Top 10 of active QB's in terms of percentage of 40+ dropback games with a 75.0+ grade since 2006 (min. 25 games played)https://t.co/IvyP18L83G
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) June 22, 2020
znModeratorMatt Bowen@MattBowen41
IMO, there are only a few NFL QBs who are truly scheme transcendent ā Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson.Majority of the QBs are system based players. And Garoppolo is a pretty good fit for Shanahanās offense.
Timing/rhythm thrower. PA/RPO + in-breakers. Boot. Schemed-up verticals.
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Andrew Abramson@AbramsonFL
Hereās my question ā if thereās no NFL season but they still have a draft, does this yearās rookie class become 2nd year players? Or do they remain rookies and thereās a giant rookie class?==
Vid: Aaron Donald barely breaks a sweat after bench press Aaron Donald continues to stay in shape and fires all cylinders in his bench press workout.
https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=29341031
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RAMpant Defense
35 reps at 225 lbs. Not too shabby.
I noticed Greg Gaines in the video. Working out with AD can’t hurt you going into year two.
znModeratorHow Van Jefferson passed the first test for the Rams
J.B. Long
https://www.therams.com/news/how-van-jefferson-passed-first-test-for-rams
When the Rams traded Brandin Cooks to Houston in early-April, they weren’t necessarily seeking his replacement through the 2020 NFL Draft. They did, however, see a striking resemblance to two other targets in head coach Sean McVay’s 11-personnel package.
“As you consider Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp, and if they were standing side-by-side, and they were looking into a mirror,” explained James Gladstone, the Rams director of scouting strategy. “Their reflection would be that of Van Jefferson.”
Among the commonalities was vicious route running that could leave even the best defensive backs “grasping for cloth.”
“Though Van Jefferson was not the first wide receiver that we discussed for this group of draft prospects, it quickly became apparent that he would be the first wide receiver that we would consider drafting,” Gladstone said.
From one of the most heralded pass-catching classes in NFL Draft history, it was a bold move to select one who didn’t run a 40-yard dash at 57th overall.
And the Rams may not have, without the Cooper Kupp Test.
“Kupp didn’t run an admirable 40-yard dash,” said general manager Les Snead of the 4.62 on display in Indianapolis.
“2017, (Kupp) stacked as the fastest max speed at the Senior Bowl regardless of position,” Snead continued, referencing the Zebra Technologies available at the influential pre-Draft event. “Van Jefferson went ahead and did the exact same thing. So that was something that was a great tell for us.”
Florida WR @VanJefferson12 couldnāt run the 40 at Combine (foot injury) but @ZebraTechnology had him as fastest player at the @seniorbowl with max speed of 21.05 mph, which is faster than Devin Duvernay (20.90/4.39), Denzel Mims (20.26/4.38), and Antonio Gibson (20.15/4.39). š„š„ pic.twitter.com/t7Y8nRmonn
— Jim Nagy (@JimNagy_SB) April 4, 2020
The executive director of the Senior Bowl, Jim Nagy, compared Jefferson to another undervalued receiver from the 2019 class, Terry McLaurin. The former Ohio State Buckeye went to Washington at 76th overall and proceeded to earn All-Rookie honors with 58 receptions, 919 receiving yards and seven touchdowns despite inconsistent quarterback play.
It’s worth noting that while Jefferson passed the Cooper Kupp Test by way of top-end speed, there’s no statistical comparison between the SEC product and the FCS receiving king.
However, in 2016 at Ole Miss, before he transferred to Florida, Jefferson was in a skill group with a staggering number of professional prospects. Among them were his freshmen classmates A.J. Brown and D.K. Metcalf. Each hauled in at least 900 yards and seven touchdowns as NFL rookies with the Titans and Seahawks, respectively.
As for the foot injury that prevented Jefferson from participating at the Underwear Olympics (as Snead often refers to the Combine)? The 12th receiver taken in this year’s Draft said then he was already well on the road to recovery from surgery. Sean McVay recently wrapped up the virtual off-season expecting every member of the roster to be available for training camp.
znModeratorBtw, the WaPo lets you read one article before its paywall kicks in.
You can read the Washington Post at any time through Incognito. Just copy the URL to Incognito and you get the article in question just fine. (Incognito does not work with the LA Times though.)
znModeratorI didnāt know that about the Red Zone stuff. Weird. Watching the season, I got the sense they werenāt so good in the RZ.
Have you looked into their Super Bowl year? What are the stats for that? It appeared they struggled. That was my impression, which may have been wrong . . .
They were not as good before. As ironic as it sounds, the McVay Rams offense was better in the RZ in 2019 than in 2018 and 2017. In fact his Washington offense was not that good at it in 2016. Until last year this was legitimately considered a McVay weakness.
Same stat I bolded in the last post:
Year, rank
2019: 6th
2018: 19th
2017: 17th
2016 (Washington): 30th
znModeratorFlorida man DOES NOT want to wear a mask at Walmart @CaliCoCo3
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 21, 2020
znModeratorBut should local or fed govs FORCE it on people?
I dunno. Is the fact that it would āsave an unknown number of livesā enough to win the argument about gov.power? I dunno.
Any thoughts?
Well, several supreme court cases have already established that states have the power to require people to take reasonable steps necessary to mitigate an epidemic. So according to the supreme court that’s a constitutionally grounded state power (though interestingly not federal.) To me it’s not “oppressive government” when it’s an epidemic. Freedom in an epidemic is a dangerous illusion. Same reason we have speed limits when driving.
Here’s the thing about masks–they work. Studies show they do. They slow the spread down. Places that masked up (Japan, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Austria) had much lower infection rates.
Places that did not mask up (Sweden) had much higher death rates. And Sweden tried the “protect the vulnerable while everyone else runs free” routine but it did not work. The elderly were just as vulnerable if not more.
And it doesn’t have to be “forcing.” You can say that all businesses require masks and there are no exceptions. Then the businesses enforce it. You can also just simply say crowds of certain kinds are disallowed (eg. pool parties).
But yes they can require it, they should require it, it works to require it, and I don’t buy the idea that wearing a mask imposes on freedom. I don’t see it as being any different from lower speed limits in a school zone. It’s just public safety.
znModeratorThe most important COVID story right now is the age shift.
In Texas: Young adults driving the spike.https://t.co/7LbB7MWBDR
In Arizona: COVID cases growing 2X faster among ages 20-44 than 65+.
In Florida: Median age of new COVID cases fell from 65 in March to 35 this week ā> pic.twitter.com/UOcaeMN0fx
— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) June 22, 2020
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Why is this the most important story right now? Two reasons.
1. It helps resolve (for now) a statistical mystery: Why are cases accelerating but deaths (for now!) not accelerating?
A: New cases are younger, and young ppl have lower fatality rate.https://t.co/puR2h0xTNd
— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) June 22, 2020
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In closing: Accelerating cases among a low-risk group might be BETTER than accelerating cases among a high-risk group, but that doesn't mean it's GOOD; and hundreds of thousands of infected young ppl milling about in a haphazardly opening economy is, in fact, VERY BAD.
— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) June 22, 2020
znModeratorNFL’s hottest offensive scheme
Bucky Brooks
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-s-hottest-offensive-scheme-my-top-five-receivers-ravens-complacency
Brooks: Why Shanahan’s scheme gives defenders nightmares. Former NFL player and scout Bucky Brooks knows the ins and outs of this league, providing keen insight in his notebook.
Kyle Shanahan is widely considered one of the best offensive minds in the NFL after guiding the San Francisco 49ers to an appearance in Super Bowl LIV. His dynamic scheme looked unstoppable at times with a punishing running game and complementary pass attack that kept defenders on their heels.
The design of that high-powered attack is a bit of deja vu for me, as I vividly remember the challenge of defending Mike Shanahan’s Denver Broncos in the late 1990s, when they notched back-to-back Super Bowl wins. Playing for the Kansas City Chiefs at the time, I watched those Broncos teams dash my title hopes in the 1997 AFC Divisional Round, with John Elway and Terrell Davis masterfully running the stretch-bootleg combination. Studying the game film and scouting report leading up to that contest, I was surprised by the simplicity of Denver’s offense. The playbook consisted of just a handful of plays, but the unit led the NFL in scoring and total offense, with Davis setting the pace on the ground. The 196th overall pick in the 1995 NFL Draft amassed 1,750 rushing yards and 15 TDs in ’97 while basically running two plays: inside and outside zone.
Davis’ talents as a rugged inside runner with speed, power and vision certainly played a major role in Denver’s offensive success. But it was really the synchronization between him and the offensive line that made the unit extremely difficult to stop. The Broncos’ O-linemen came off the ball in unison and quickly latched onto any defenders in their tracks. The back side of the line violently cut down pursuers to create huge cutback seams for Davis. With the chop blocks tempering the defensive line’s aggression and the threat of Elway escaping out of the back door on a bootleg, defenders were tentative and cautious.
As a defensive back, I remember focusing so much on the Broncos’ punishing running game that Denver receivers Rod Smith and Ed McCaffrey ran free and clear through the secondary, particularly when Elway incorporated play-action. The running game was the foundation for the offensive attack, and everyone benefitted from playing in a system built on simple concepts.
Fast-forward a couple decades, and I’m watching the younger Shanahan utilize the same scheme to lead a 49ers resurgence that just culminated in a Super Bowl appearance. The impressive run prompted the team to reward Kyle with a six-year contract extension that makes him one of the league’s five highest-paid coaches. Moreover, the Niners’ success in a zone-based scheme will prompt several coaches around the league to borrow ideas and concepts from Shanahan’s playbook this fall.
Seeing how the Shanahan system has directly influenced numerous current head coaches (the Rams’ Sean McVay, Chargers’ Anthony Lynn, Packers’ Matt LaFleur, Browns’ Kevin Stefanski and Bengals’ Zac Taylor), as well as Vikings offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak and Eagles senior offensive assistant Rich Scangarello, we’re bound to see plenty of the stretch-bootleg scheme in 2020.
After studying the All-22 Coaches Film and making a few phone calls to some coaching friends around the league, I’ve come up with three reasons why the Shanahan scheme has re-emerged as the hottest offensive trend in football:
1) Simplicity yields big results on the ground.
There’s nothing complicated about the running game in the Shanahan system. As alluded to above, the playbook consists of two basic runs (outside zone and inside zone) and a handful of complements. The offensive line works in unison like the Radio City Rockettes, with each blocker stepping into an assigned area instead of playing a specific defender. This enables the unit to quickly sort out stunts and blitzes at the line of scrimmage without hesitation or confusion.
“I remember Dom Capers running all of those zone dogs,” Kubiak was quoted as saying in an ESPN article last December. “When you’re in a man scheme, you’re getting picked off and you look bad. In zone schemes, when defenses start stunting, you don’t stop and go back and block them. You just keep running into your area and pick people off. So all of it was probably a reaction to the zone blitzes, and it just became part of football.”
Running backs are expected to adhere to a one-cut rule that limits the dancing in the backfield and challenges runners to avoid negative runs. Ball carriers hit the line of scrimmage attacking downhill while reading the flow of the defense to determine whether to “bang” (attack the hole), “bend” (cut back) or “bounce” (go outside). If the running back has patience and vision, he will always spot a crease and routinely pick up 4-plus yards on basic runs. Most importantly, he will avoid negative runs and keep the offense on schedule on early downs.
“It was really about just many, many repetitions of doing something simple,” Kubiak said in the ESPN piece. “I remember (former offensive line coach) Alex (Gibbs) saying, ‘We’re not going to run a lot of plays. We might run them 10,000 different ways to look different, but it’ll be the same thing up front.’ … You become a wide-zone or a tight-zone team, and you adjust to what people do.”
Kyle Shanahan has taken the “same but different” concept to another level by dressing up his plays with a steady diet of pre-snap shifts and motions. The 49ers used pre-snap shifts or motions on 78 percent of their offensive plays, according to Pro Football Focus. The constant movement disguises the offense’s intentions by changing the strength calls of the defense and diverting defenders’ eyes away from their keys. With Shanahan playing the shell game with his wide receivers, tight ends and running backs, San Francisco’s small selection of running plays actually looks like The Cheesecake Factory menu to the defense.
2) The complementary play-action passing game is hard to stop.
Disciples of the Shanahan system have heeded the advice of the analytics crowd and made play-action the foundation of the passing game. Data has shown that play-action is effective regardless of how well a team runs the ball, but the presence of a dominant running game really takes the play-action pass to another level. Defenders are forced to respect the ball fakes and illusion of the run when a team has an A+ ground attack.
“The main thing was, even if you’re not running the ball effectively, still use play-action,” Vikings QB Kirk Cousins said last year, via the Washington Post. “It’s still going to slow the pass rush down, make linebackers feel unsettled as to whether to get in a zone drop or go upfield and fit their gap. Usually, the routes are designed for bigger plays, and so you’re able to get bigger plays. It basically said, never get away from it. The numbers would say just keep going back to the well.”
The scheme exploits the aggressiveness of linebackers with a variety of route concepts that position pass catchers at intermediate and deep levels. The passing game features an assortment of digs, deep overs and post routes designed to punish defenders for vacating their zones. With the initial part of the play-action pass perfectly matching the scheme’s featured runs, the design creates big-play opportunities on the perimeter.
“The running game is such a force that you’re forced to play simple coverages against the scheme,” a former NFL defensive coordinator told me. “You have to play more of your single-high coverages or ‘quarters’ with your cornerbacks isolated (in) one-on-ones. … You can’t help guys with safeties and linebackers because they’re so focused on the run. … It’s a tough scheme to defend.”
That longtime defensive coach told me that the identical action at the beginning of the play makes it hard for defenders to distinguish between run and pass. That’s exactly the dilemma proponents of the system want to create on play-action passes.
Last fall, my NFL Network colleague Tom Pelissero relayed the sentiments of Stefanski, then the Vikings’ offensive coordinator, when it comes to play-action: “It needs to look like, taste like, smell like the run.” When it does, the consequences can be dire for opposing defenses.
3) The system can elevate the play of unheralded quarterbacks and running backs.
Part of the fascination with the Shanahan system is that you don’t need superstars to successfully run it. We’ve seen countless examples of late-round passers and runners producing at a Pro Bowl level thanks to the scheme.
“It’s a system that allows you to win with average players at key spots,” the former NFL defensive coordinator said. “The play designs put your top guys in prime positions to make plays. … If they make the plays they’re expected to make, everyone on the team can look like a collection of all-stars.”
For quarterbacks, the system creates easy reads against simplistic coverages. Opponents are unable to utilize two-deep coverages and other “trap” schemes due to the threat of the running game. The heavy play-action component also leads to one-defender reads where the quarterback identifies a single defender on the second level who’ll help him determine where to go with the ball. These simple reads against basic coverages enable the QB to post a high completion percentage while pushing the ball down the field.
Studying the numbers from starting quarterbacks around the NFL, it’s not a coincidence that three of the top four quarterbacks in play-action passing yards, according to Pro Football Reference, played in the Shanahan system: the Rams’ Jared Goff (1), Garoppolo (2) and Cousins (4) — Dak Prescott ranked third. In addition, four of the top seven passers in pass yards after catch per completion also play in the scheme: Garoppolo, Cousins, Goff and Aaron Rodgers. Considering Rodgers is the only generational talent in the group, it is not hard to see how the system can elevate any passer on the field.
That said, running backs are probably the biggest benefactors in the system. Late-rounders, in particular, have excelled in a scheme that calls for disciplined, straight-line runners with a grind-it-out mentality. This system demands runners to stay on their assigned tracks until they hit the line of scrimmage. If a runner adheres to the principles of the scheme, the yards come in bunches.
During the elder Shanahan’s tenure in Denver, he pumped out six different 1,000-yard rushers in the zone-based running game: Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Clinton Portis, Reuben Droughns and Tatum Bell. Portis and Bell were second-round picks, but Gary was a fourth-rounder while Davis and Anderson weren’t taken until Round 6. And Droughns was a cast-off snatched from the scrap heap to initially play fullback in Denver. Long story short: It’s not a stretch to suggest that the system makes the player.
That’s why more coaches and executives are flocking to the scheme, particularly following a season where San Francisco ranked second in scoring and made it all the way to the Super Bowl. Despite possessing a stable of largely unheralded backs (Raheem Mostert, Matt Breida and Tevin Coleman), the 49ers ranked second in the league in rushing. The system clearly gives you a chance to build a formidable running game without dumping top picks or significant capital into the running back room.
Those three takeaways help illustrate why the Shanahan scheme is the offensive system of the moment.
June 22, 2020 at 1:47 am in reply to: defunding the police … & other legislative responses to the protests #116942
znModeratorPat Dolan from Facebook
Dolan says, “just passing this on as an example.”
āThe School of [Redacted]: This is an educational post to outline some of the basics of police abolition. Read this and you may have fewer questions, and hopefully you learn something regardless.
The goal of police abolition is not about immediately defunding the police altogether. We want to start by decreasing police budgets. Iowa City spends more on the police department than any other city expense, and this money goes toward much more than salaries. Our police department wastes vast amounts of taxpayer money purchasing military equipment, which we do not need, especially in a town of less than 80,000 people. We own an $800,000 armor-plated military truck designed to be mine-resistant and ambush protected (MRAP), infinite tear gas canisters (10-20 dollars each), riot gear shields at a minimum of one hundred dollars each as well as armored suits that cost well over three hundred dollars per person. Even the shitty āPOLICEā decals on the front of a shield are twenty dollars apiece. We spend more than fifteen million dollars a year to fund the City of Iowa City police. Thatās the budget, and it is absurd.
You may be asking yourself, āWhat are we getting for this price tag?ā and the answer is, not much. In major cities, police departments only devote 4% of their time to violent crime, and almost none of those cases are solved. Responding to non-violent crimes and writing traffic tickets account for most of a police officerās time on the clock. Imagine what these numbers must look like in a small town like Iowa City. We simply do not need huge police numbers in order to write traffic tickets, arrest people for nonviolent drug offenses, or even to investigate violent crime, and we certainly do not need an MRAP in order to complete these tasks. The truth is that police forces are ineffectual, expensive, and violent. We want to move city funds away from police and toward community-based models of safety and crime prevention because the fascinating thing about crime is that it’s predictable. Lack of employment, lack of green spaces, lack of education, and lack of arts, are all major contributing factors to high crime rates, as well as poor access to health care, including mental health. By defunding the police, we free the better part of fifteen million dollars to increase citizen access to these services.
A few summers ago, I found a homeless man overdosing under a bridge, eyes glazed and foaming at the mouth. I hated dialing 911 and praying that the ambulance would beat the police to the scene. I had a student who was the victim of domestic violence but didnāt want to call the police for fear her husband would be deported, and I wished that there were more paid survivor advocates and womenās shelters to take care of her. One of my teenage cousins punched my mom while living with her, traumatized by his drug addict mother and the turmoil of homelessness. He needed mental health services and a social worker, not an armed officer, but unfortunately, this was right before the Terry Branstad largely dismantled the community mental health services in Iowa. Conner disappeared shortly after, and my auntie could just as easily be dead as alive. As a community, we donāt need to catch charges; we need help. We need harm reduction, universal health care, social workers, and free access to education.
There is an idea going around that we would live in chaos if the police were defunded, but actually, they are a pretty recent invention, less than 200 years old, so keep in mind weāve lived without them for a very long time. Colgate brand toothpaste is literally older than the police. The police were first formed in the United States in response to slave insurrection. They were created not to serve and protect, but to capture and return enslaved people trying to escape to freedom. This white supremacist institution cannot be reformed. We need to start over. Liberal ideas such as increasing implicit bias training or making bodycams mandatory have produced very few results. Cities across the United States have been successful in demanding and installing citizen review boards since the 1960s, but since these boards have very little power, they have proven unproductive. Reforming the police is not a new strategy, but it is an ineffective strategy. We canāt fix the police; Itās time to dismantle and defund them.
I want to speak to my queer homies now too. These protests ARE pride. Pride is not canceled. You see, in the 1960s, police commonly raided gay bars because gay sex was illegal, as was āmasqueradingā as a member of the opposite sex. They would shut down bars and restaurants that were found to have queer employees or to serve queer people. One such bar was the Stonewall Inn. Police raided the inn repeatedly in the month of June, singling out gender nonconforming and transgender leaders such as StormĆ© DeLarverie and Marsha P. Johnson. The queer community fought back when the police used violence against them, and the next year, they declared the first pride.
znModeratorYeah? Well…what about Lenin on Lenin crime.
Given that he shouldn’t be so focused on banks.
znModeratorMy wife has been running a fever for a day, and had body aches for several days. Going to get tested this morning.There arenāt many cases in our county, and weāve been really careful, so it seems pretty unlikelyā¦and yetā¦she got something, somewhere.
I hope everythingās fine. When do you find out?
Came back negative. Sheās fine.
Good to hear.
Don’t move to Florida. Or, Texas.
June 21, 2020 at 9:41 pm in reply to: defunding the police … & other legislative responses to the protests #116933
znModeratorA reasonable question asked by those confused about ādefundā and āabolishā is: so how would violent crime be handled?
Important to note that the police spend almost none of their time ā 4% ā dealing with violent crime https://t.co/QuIvl60tDA
— Wesley (@WesleyLowery) June 21, 2020
znModeratorSan Antonio Police Chief William McManus fired an officer caught on a body cam calling a handcuffed prisoner the n-word. An arbitrator gave him his job back, @bchasnoff reports
Hereās how the head of the police union defended the officerhttps://t.co/p6hFTcZbs9 @ExpressNews pic.twitter.com/ZlxRqV5dRz
— Joshua Fechter š (@JFreports) June 21, 2020
znModeratorfrom Multiple Florida Hospitals Run Out of ICU Beds as Coronavirus Cases Spike
Florida health officials previously told Newsweek they attributed the sharp increase in cases to expanded testing procedures implemented throughout the state since it began reopening early last month. However, infectious disease experts and government leaders have warned that simultaneous increases in hospitalization numbers signal a more serious uptick in transmission, one that could be linked to loosened restrictions for business operations and public gatherings.
znModerator
June 21, 2020 at 3:22 pm in reply to: can there be a season? 2 pre-season games cancelled so far #116921
znModeratorThey won't stop until somebody dies…restarting sports leagues playing the most dangerous of games https://t.co/RgoXYLXgXk
— Bill Plaschke (@BillPlaschke) June 21, 2020
znModeratorFrom a left/progressive point of view they overlap so much that often it hardly matters whether they are presumably different or not.
But.
You asked in another thread what leftists/progressives say being left or progressive means. Or is. That question deserves consideration. This is as good a place as any to answer it.
In time.

It’s a big question. Deserves a thought-out response.
znModeratorAt the far opposite end of the value scale–oak is also the best firewood.
znModeratorRisking injury to future HOF Donald? Please, Rams, just so no!!
Agreed.
Though I also want to add that the Rams were good in the RZ last year. According to this stat–NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only) (or NFLTRZSPTDO for short)–Rams were 6th in the league. In the last 3 games, they were 1st in the league.
So on top of it being a bad idea, they don’t need it anyway.
June 20, 2020 at 10:34 pm in reply to: updated–Round Three? Robinson’s rebuttal to the rebuttal to the . . . #116893
znModeratorOkay. I think Iām gonna call it a night, but Iāll try to transfer this to one of WVās threads tomorrow, if heās okay with that.
Hope all is well.
I would appreciate that. Here’s the thing though…I would say on this board (ie. the whole board, huddle board) no one owns threads. I know that’s an etiquette some places but here, we are all different drummers. BUT at the same time, it’s better to keep within topics and not proliferate threads about the same topic, if possible. Point #2 (better to have long threads then too many short threads) takes precedence over the idea of “ownership.” So if I start a thread about quantum gravity, and WV takes it over with post after post about how the word “quantum” is stupid, that’s fine.
znModeratorCallum@callumwashere
Seahawks
Cardinals
49ers
(All three make the playoffs)
RamsRJ is a Rams Fan@Rj8712
Remember that time the Cards beat Sean McVay?Rams Brothers@RamsBrothers
Wonder if other fans realize that Sean McVay has never lost to the Cardinals, is 13-5 all-time against the NFCW, has the most total wins (includes playoffs), AND the most division titles in the last three years. Oh, they donāt? Ok.June 20, 2020 at 10:19 pm in reply to: updated–Round Three? Robinson’s rebuttal to the rebuttal to the . . . #116887
znModeratorAs a rule I think itās better to keep similar things in threads where the same conversation on the same topic just keeps going. Starting new threads drives other threads off of page one. Thereās so much going on now, page one is just crazy with stuff!
Okay. If you want to move it to a better fit, I donāt object.
I started this one cuz I worry that Iām being a bull in a China shop in other peopleās threads, and I donāt mean to be. I donāt want my posts to end the discussion, and they seem to be. That might just be a coincidence. But, who knows?
Anyway . . . if you want to shift this somewhere, no problem.
Problem is I can’t move posts. I have to ask people to do it themselves (though it’s easy–all people have to do to move a post is copy it then re-post it in a new place.)
Never, ever, ever worry about being what you called “a bull in a china shop.” Just post! I would not say your posts end discussions, it ain’t like that.
June 20, 2020 at 9:55 pm in reply to: updated–Round Three? Robinson’s rebuttal to the rebuttal to the . . . #116881
znModeratorAs a rule I think it’s better to keep similar things in threads where the same conversation on the same topic just keeps going. Starting new threads drives other threads off of page one. There’s so much going on now, page one is just crazy with stuff!
znModeratorMy wife has been running a fever for a day, and had body aches for several days. Going to get tested this morning.There arenāt many cases in our county, and weāve been really careful, so it seems pretty unlikelyā¦and yetā¦she got something, somewhere.
I hope everything’s fine. When do you find out?
znModeratoroldnotdead
The Ram season IMO turned basically on 2 missed FGs. If not for those, no one would be asking “what happened to the Rams?” Well, the Rams will have a new kicker this year. I think it will be Lirim Hajrullahu.
Lirim has a better leg than Greg ever had. He’s been far and away more consistent than Greg ever was. He’s been a professional for years, kicking FGs outside in the Canadian winters. He’s proven himself under professional pressure. He would have to get sick or injured not to be the Ram’s PK this year. I think they will try to sneak Sloman onto the PS but I don’t think he will get there too many teams need a kicker like the Giants. So that probably puts MacGinnis on the PS.
Lirim could be the last piece of the puzzle. His range and accuracy could be the deciding factor in crucial games in the same way Greg was in the NFC Championship game in 2018. The only downside is his age at 30. But being a PK minimizes that issue. Talk about under the radar weapons I think Lirim could very well be exactly that. I watched some of his Canadian kicks and I’m shocked he has lasted that long in the CFL without being signed in the NFL.
But the reason I think he’s a lock to make the team is that he can punt. He’s not a great punter but he’s not bad either (44-45 yd aver last year) in the same way Hekker isn’t a great PK but he’s serviceable. Having both kickers being able to fill in for each other is a huge roster advantage especially this year. If Hekker shows up with a slight temp he won’t be allowed to play so having someone who can be a gameday replacement would be huge.
Last year during the season in different games Lirim made a 62 yd FG and a 70 yd FG with the last one being in heavy November air. Imagine needing a game-winning FG in January in Chicago, Greenbay, or Philly and I think you get the value of having proven weather and pressure-proof pk.
Yeah, he’s my pick for under the radar impact signing.
znModeratorReminder: There are 136 days until Election Day, and there is still no basis for the conspiracy theory that voting by mail will lead to massive fraud.
In an election plagued by pandemic, uncertainty, and death, the American people deserve the truth from our leaders. https://t.co/41pjOUvoVn
— Ellen L Weintraub (@EllenLWeintraub) June 20, 2020
znModeratorKelly O’Donnell@KellyO
On assignment here in Tulsa and @NBCNews has learned six members of the Trump campaign advance team staff tested positive for COVID-19. Campaign says that group will not be in attendance at tonight’s rally. -
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