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    in reply to: Flipper Anderson, 15 for 336, 10/26/89 (vid) #115837
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    Here’s the whole overtime of that game.

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    https://www.benjerry.com/about-us/media-center/dismantle-white-supremacy

    All of us at Ben & Jerry’s are outraged about the murder of another Black person by Minneapolis police officers last week and the continued violent response by police against protestors. We have to speak out. We have to stand together with the victims of murder, marginalization, and repression because of their skin color, and with those who seek justice through protests across our country. We have to say his name: George Floyd.

    George Floyd was a son, a brother, a father, and a friend. The police officer who put his knee on George Floyd’s neck and the police officers who stood by and watched didn’t just murder George Floyd, they stole him. They stole him from his family and his friends, his church and his community, and from his own future.

    The murder of George Floyd was the result of inhumane police brutality that is perpetuated by a culture of white supremacy. What happened to George Floyd was not the result of a bad apple; it was the predictable consequence of a racist and prejudiced system and culture that has treated Black bodies as the enemy from the beginning. What happened to George Floyd in Minneapolis is the fruit borne of toxic seeds planted on the shores of our country in Jamestown in 1619, when the first enslaved men and women arrived on this continent. Floyd is the latest in a long list of names that stretches back to that time and that shore. Some of those names we know — Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, Oscar Grant, Eric Garner, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Emmett Till, Martin Luther King, Jr. — most we don’t.

    The officers who murdered George Floyd, who stole him from those who loved him, must be brought to justice. At the same time, we must embark on the more complicated work of delivering justice for all the victims of state sponsored violence and racism.

    Four years ago, we publicly stated our support for the Black Lives Matter movement. Today, we want to be even more clear about the urgent need to take concrete steps to dismantle white supremacy in all its forms. To do that, we are calling for four things:

    First, we call upon President Trump, elected officials, and political parties to commit our nation to a formal process of healing and reconciliation. Instead of calling for the use of aggressive tactics on protestors, the President must take the first step by disavowing white supremacists and nationalist groups that overtly support him, and by not using his Twitter feed to promote and normalize their ideas and agendas. The world is watching America’s response.

    Second, we call upon the Congress to pass H.R. 40, legislation that would create a commission to study the effects of slavery and discrimination from 1619 to the present and recommend appropriate remedies. We cannot move forward together as a nation until we begin to grapple with the sins of our past. Slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation were systems of legalized and monetized white supremacy for which generations of Black and Brown people paid an immeasurable price. That cost must be acknowledged and the privilege that accrued to some at the expense of others must be reckoned with and redressed.

    Third, we support Floyd’s family’s call to create a national task force that would draft bipartisan legislation aimed at ending racial violence and increasing police accountability. We can’t continue to fund a criminal justice system that perpetuates mass incarceration while at the same time threatens the lives of a whole segment of the population.

    And finally, we call on the Department of Justice to reinvigorate its Civil Rights Division as a staunch defender of the rights of Black and Brown people. The DOJ must also reinstate policies rolled back under the Trump Administration, such as consent decrees to curb police abuses.

    Unless and until white America is willing to collectively acknowledge its privilege, take responsibility for its past and the impact it has on the present, and commit to creating a future steeped in justice, the list of names that George Floyd has been added to will never end. We have to use this moment to accelerate our nation’s long journey towards justice and a more perfect union.”

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    Jim Trotter@JimTrotter_NFL
    Man, hearing from different teams about the virtual conversations that have taken place among players, coaches and executives. Words that keep coming up: powerful, emotional. Some participants have been moved to tears during talks. This *feels* unlike anything I’ve covered.

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    Matt Waldman@MattWaldman
    There’s a difference between between hateful and ignorant. People—especially liberals—are too apt to shame when they see ignorance and lump it with hate. Some want to punish immediately, ask questions later. Brees wasn’t hateful but what he said is hurtful because he’s

    Ignorant of the underlying ties between his desire to be patriotic (good), what is patriotic (what he appears not to see), and what is the priority that most military I have known or spoken with would tell you (human rights and right to protest).

    I am a huge fan of Drew Brees’s game. So are the players who work with him on the field. Brees is a perfect example of an intelligent, hardworking, often compassionate person can be insidiously brainwashed for so long that they don’t or refuse to see what’s obvious to many.

    It’s the heartbreaking thing about our nation’s disease. Those who perpetrated this disease politically tie it to false notions of safety and patriotism.

    American slavery was the most brutal form of slavery in world history. When over, there was no recompense, training, or enforcement of the new laws. Jim Crow laws were awful–Nazis studied them to prepare for their regime of government. They rejected many of them as too harsh!

    Jim Crow laws benefited whites and hurt blacks in quality of real estate, education, law enforcement–institutions that set you and your family up for life and the lives of your children and children’s children or can derail and hurt those dependent on you early in life.

    Why wasn’t the Tusla massacre taught in most U.S. schools? A thriving black area of town with black-owned businesses bombed from the air, and black families massacred and buried in unmarked graves–set off by a woman behaving like Amy Cooper.

    Why are textbooks in many states equating the indentured servitude of the Irish with the slavery of Africans in America? And if you can’t get with “why” you can still acknowledge how these elements brainwash us into denial that anything needs to be fixed.

    The point is that we’ve been brainwashed in this country by people who didn’t want to own up to what they did to blacks and how it earned them power and money. We may not be directly complicit with those acts but it set the foundation for inherent advantages/disadvantages.

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    Rams’ meeting on George Floyd death was emotional and powerful, Sean McVay says

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    https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2020-06-02/

    There was sadness, and also anger and tears. “It was as real and authentic as it gets,” Rams coach Sean McVay said.

    The Rams on Tuesday returned to their regularly scheduled virtual offseason program, but McVay said that an emotional and “powerful” team meeting the previous day continued to reverberate.

    McVay said about 125 players, coaches and staff participated Monday in a videoconference that afforded all a platform for discussing the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, the worldwide protests that have followed and the feelings and experiences that have shaped individual and collective reaction.
    Floyd, an African American man, died after a white police officer knelt on his neck for more than eight minutes while restraining him. The officer, Derek Chauvin, was arrested after days of protests and charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

    “Our thoughts and prayers are with the Floyd family,” McVay told reporters during a videoconference. “This tragedy has affected our entire country and, really, our entire world. And with all the things going on, we thought it was really important as an organization to have a meeting … to really provide the platform, most importantly, to listen, to learn.”

    Over the weekend, several Rams players utilized social media to express feelings about Floyd’s death, racism and the need for change. Quarterback Jared Goff, running back Malcolm Brown, defensive lineman Sebastian Joseph-Day, safety John Johnson and receiver Cooper Kupp were among players who posted or retweeted others.

    “My heart hurts for our country,” Goff said on Instagram. “There needs to be change and it can only happen together. I’ll never pretend to understand the struggles the black community goes through daily in our country and never will know this struggle. It is my responsibility to educate myself and actively participate in advocating for the change our country desperately needs, in words and action. Love each other a little more than usual, come together, and continue to push for positive change in our country.”

    McVay said players and staff members shared their experiences during the meeting.

    “One of the things that I wanted to make sure that I echoed and articulated to our players was, you know, while I can’t ever say that I’ve been the victim of racial profiling or discrimination, I have been raised to know what’s right and what’s wrong,” he said.

    McVay said that asking questions with empathy and listening were major takeaways.

    “It’s not just the surface-level, ‘How’s your family?’” he said. “But really just demonstrating the empathy and the willingness to try to learn, try to understand, and you don’t get that without asking. … I’m a little disappointed that I haven’t been asking these questions long before this.”

    In 2016, former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick sparked controversy when he knelt during the national anthem to protest police brutality and racial oppression in the United States.

    No NFL team has signed Kaepernick since the end of the 2016 season.

    McVay was asked if his perspective on Kaepernick’s situation had changed.

    “It just reiterates having empathy and understanding, and allowing people to be able to handle the situations and what they see best fit,” McVay said.
    McVay said he would support Rams players if they chose to demonstrate on the field during the upcoming season.

    “It would be extremely silly of me, if I’m sitting here saying that I’m going to listen, to learn, and try to have an empathy and understanding, to not allow guys the platform if they feel like it’s the right way to represent the healing and some of those solutions that we’re looking to,” he said. “I absolutely would be open and wanting to listen and be open to that.”

    John Wolford, who was on the practice squad last season, is Goff’s backup. The Rams also signed undrafted free agents Josh Love and Bryce Perkins.
    Would McVay consider signing Kaepernick?

    “He hasn’t played in a long time,” McVay said. “We feel really good about our quarterback situation.”

    McVay said he would continue searching for ways to give players and staff the opportunity to voice their concerns and help change systems that cause societal problems.

    in reply to: Police & protestors — conflicting images #115816
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    Police rioted this weekend, justifying the point of the protests

    https://www.businessinsider.com/police-rioted-george-floyd-riots-justifying-protests-2020-6?fbclid=IwAR2hjxDqFg7CWekVLyU7QgUd7Ht_06JdZBJ6E4g5U5hwiTPnMJ2JCZLcf2w

    In cities across America over the past several days, many police officers rioted.

    Wanton acts of violence were committed. Rights were callously violated. The rule of law was abandoned.

    To be sure, there were plenty of good and noble acts by the police over the weekend. Some police chiefs marched peacefully with protesters; others made it a point to directly engage in dialogue with their community. Countless officers protected innocent people and their property and also did their best to ensure as safe an environment as possible for peaceful protesters.

    No cops deserved to be attacked with projectiles. This shouldn’t be controversial.

    The violence and property damage associated with the civil unrest are inexcusable. The looting is indefensible. Both do incredible damage to any cause seeking justice, especially ones fighting to end police brutality and reform the criminal-justice system.

    None of that makes analyzing the events of the past few days, the underlying causes, and the motivations of the participants any easier. Far from a binary good-versus-bad determination, there are myriad issues to unpack. But any conversation focused only on the riots and looting and not law enforcement’s penchant for excessive force and institutional resistance to accountability is both disingenuous and unserious.

    For the moment, I’m going to focus on the institutional rot at the heart of policing in this country, in which the privileges afforded to law-enforcement officers allow them to break the law, abuse their authority, and hurt innocent people.

    These privileges are codified into police-union contracts with governments and backed up by the conservative interpretation of an 1871 law known as Section 1983.

    Under the interpretation, which protects police officers from facing liability in civil courts for violating citizens’ civil rights, those who feel their rights have been violated by a police officer need to prove that a nearly identical situation was ruled a violation of civil rights in the same jurisdiction for the courts to even consider revoking so-called qualified immunity from the officer accused.

    Police rioted

    In Minneapolis — the city where the nationwide unrest was sparked by the killing of George Floyd, a black man who died May 25 after Derek Chauvin, a white police officer, knelt on his neck for over eight excruciating minutes — members of the police and the National Guard marched through a quiet neighborhood as if it were Fallujah in 2004.

    The militarized police barked orders at citizens, commanding them to go back into their homes. Even though the city’s curfew specifically allowed for residents to be outside on their own property, one officer took a look at a small group of women on a front porch and said, “Light ’em up,” before one of his colleagues fired paint canisters at them.

    They were on their front porch. They were observing curfew rules. The cops were the lawbreakers.

    Another Minneapolis officer performed a drive-by pepper-spraying of peaceful protesters and media members in broad daylight.

    As violence erupted in at least two dozen US cities, some of the worst instincts of law enforcement were on display.

    In Louisville, Kentucky, the police seized and destroyed a substantial amount of bottled water being used for the relief of peaceful protesters.

    In Salt Lake City, an armored police officer who had no crowd to disperse still felt compelled to walk directly toward an elderly man with a cane and shove him to the ground.

    In New York, two New York City Police Department vehicles plowed through a barricade and into a crowd of protesters. A young man with his hands in the air had his mask pulled down by an NYPD officer, who then pepper-sprayed him at point-blank range. And in at least one attempt at crowd clearance, officers manhandled and assaulted anyone in their way.

    In Charleston, South Carolina, a young man among a group of kneeling protesters gave a tearful speech at the armored cops opposite them. After he pleaded with their humanity, even telling the cops he loved them, a group of officers charged toward the protesters and pulled the speaker into custody. He was arrested while peacefully protesting and exercising his freedom speech.

    Police officers can often face mortal danger and extreme stress in their line of work. But with the government-sanctioned power to deprive citizens of both life and liberty, they are required to swear an oath that they will be responsible, honest, and lawful in the use of such power.

    Police officers, by and large, try to uphold that oath. But police unions and many police departments do everything in their power to make that oath empty words by fighting any legitimate attempts at transparency and accountability when it comes to the use of force.

    This has needed to change for decades. Now could be the moment it must.

    The Supreme Court should squash ‘qualified immunity’ once and for all

    Floyd’s death won’t be in vain if it leads to the Supreme Court finally doing away with the “qualified immunity” interpretation of Section 1983 of the US Code — which essentially provides cover to keep officers from being held accountable in civil courts for violating citizens’ civil rights.

    Clark Neily, the vice president of criminal justice at the libertarian-leaning Cato Institute, wrote in The Bulwark that the general conservative interpretation of Section 1983 was a rare — and I’d say cynically hypocritical — instance of the right abandoning its “originalist” approach to the Constitution.

    As Neily puts it, victims of police violence have little recourse in the court system “unless they can find a preexisting case in the jurisdiction with nearly identical facts” to their own incident. That puts the onus on victims to prove their rights were actually violated, because a basic interpretation of the Constitution won’t do.

    Floyd’s family would essentially have to find a case in which a cop killed someone by kneeling on his or her neck for an obscene length of time to get Chauvin’s qualified immunity waived. The fact Chauvin had at least 18 complaints against him alleging abuse and inappropriate behavior doesn’t factor into the equation.

    Originalists have to contort themselves into pretzels to interpret the statute’s language so it gives law enforcement the exclusive benefit of the doubt in nearly every instance. Essentially, many constitutional conservatives believe in limiting government authority as much as possible, except when it comes to holding the police accountable for abusing their authority. And for now, the courts have backed that interpretation.

    Floyd’s killing could change that.

    The Supreme Court has the opportunity this week to decide to take on any of the dozens of cases challenging the qualified-immunity interpretation.

    But that’s not the only systemic issue preventing any meaningful reforms of police accountability.

    Police unions all over the country have negotiated into their contracts all kinds of inappropriate and unjust protections from facing justice for their actions.

    The Black Lives Matter-associated group Campaign Zero created a valuable database of police-union contracts that shows “72 of the 81 cities’ contracts imposed at least one barrier to holding police accountable.”

    Some of these include a grace period of up to several days after a fatal police-involved shooting before an officer can be interviewed. Others essentially keep disciplinary records from public view permanently.

    And then there’s the fact that in this country, it is disturbingly easy for a police officer fired for abuse, corruption, or other causes to find another job in law enforcement. In some states, it’s harder to get a license to braid hair than it is to be certified as an armed agent of the state.

    Thanks to a confluence of public-sector union power, a federalist system of government, and the unwillingness of many local and state governments to keep and share databases containing the names of bad cops who have been fired for cause, bad cops keep working.

    Policing isn’t a basketball game

    According to Teresa Nelson, the ACLU of Minnesota’s legal director, the Minneapolis police union’s boss, Lt. Bob Kroll, told her in 2015 that he saw complaints against officers as similar to fouls in basketball.

    “If you’re not getting any fouls, you’re not working hard enough,” Nelson says Kroll told her, as reported in The New York Times.

    Chauvin had at least 18 complaints. That’s enough to foul out of three NBA games.

    Kroll, according to public records, has had at least 29 complaints made against him.

    Lest it needed to be said, policing is not a game, and accusations of abuse are not basketball fouls. Policing, when done incorrectly, destroys life and liberty.

    Such a cavalier attitude about the community’s relationship with the police, and the offensively dismissive view of the need for accountability, is a major part of the reason these protests are happening.

    Throw in all the incidents of heavy-handed to outright criminal behavior by law enforcement during this terrible weekend in American history, and it’s clear that change is needed.

    When the dust settles, we don’t need a “law and order” bootheel to make things better; we need the political will to demand that the law-enforcement community reform itself away from its occupying-army posture and make its disciplinary records transparent to the public.

    If the police won’t reform on their own, we need to summon the political will to fight the police unions — protected by Democrats’ reflexive pro-union posture and Republicans’ knee-jerk fealty to armed authority — and defend the civil liberties of Americans.

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    The mask is off.
    Austin police have killed a young man by shooting him in the head with bird shot rounds wrapped in cloth, and continued to shoot the medics carrying his body. They shot a known pregnant woman in the stomach, then stormed and abducted her from a medic tent. They maced young children during a peaceful daytime protest.
    Detroit police have brutally beaten, tear gassed, and arrested peaceful protestors. A curfew is set from 8pm to 5am city wide.
    Rockford police dragged people from their cars and beat them last night.
    Minneapolis police shot at people filming them on their own balconies.
    An NYPD officer called a woman a “fucking bitch” and threw her on the ground. She went into a seizure and had to go to the emergency room. Then more New York cops rammed into crowds of protesters with their cars.
    An Atlanta couple last night had their tires slashed, windows broken, and were dragged out of their car and tazed.
    Chicago police announced a curfew and then raised the bridges out of downtown.
    Demonstrators were trapped and at the utter mercy of CPD roundups. A police supervisor ordered on the radio, “Gas ’em all.” Over 1,000 people have been arrested.
    Everywhere, journalists are being indiscriminately targeted and arrested. A Minneapolis photojournalist is blinded permanently in one eye after being hit by a less lethal round.
    They’ve maced children. They’ve torn off a woman’s hijab. They’re turning off their body cameras and hiding their badge numbers.
    This is just what’s been documented. Imagine what hasn’t been.
    The true nature of American policing has been revealed for the world to see. I have never seen brutality on such a massive scale. They don’t care if you’re peaceful. They don’t care if they’re on camera.
    Black and brown youth are the leaders on the ground. They are the leaders of our future. Black and brown youth are the people who are bleeding, getting beaten, and being thrown into jail. This is trauma that will last their whole lives.
    To the bail funds. To the phone lines to demand release. We have to protect our people.
    If you’re going out there again please, and I beg you, be safe.

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    in reply to: 3rd Degree Murder was the proper charge #115802
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    Yeah-clearly I’m not good at that stuff. Sorry.

    No big. I appreciate the article. Read it with interest. And if you forget a link in the future I will just add it. Easy enough.

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    This from the L.A.Times by Harry Littman one time constitutional law professor and now in private practice.

    W–

    articles have to include links.

    I edited one in for you.

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