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March 10, 2025 at 9:38 pm in reply to: around the league: including, Seahawks Trade Geno Smith to the Raiders #155415
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ModeratorRams Bros.@RamsBrothers
So, the 49ers:• Traded Deebo Samuel (Commanders), and released Kyle Juszczyk
• Lost the following in Free Agency: Aaron Banks (Packers), Charvarius Ward (Colts), Talanoa Hufanga (Broncos), Dre Greenlaw (Broncos), Jaylon Moore (Chiefs), Elijah Mitchell (Chiefs), Josh Dobbs (Patriots)Must suck to start a rebuild without a ring to look back on…
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Moderatorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2025/3/10/24382512/rams-free-agency-jimmy-garoppolo-news
Coleman Shelton, C
Terms not yet disclosed
Shelton spent last season with the Chicago Bears, who have spent the early going of the offseason reinventing the interior of their offensive line. Chicago also landed the top center on the free agent market in Drew Dalman most recently of the Atlanta Falcons. Shelton has experience and chemistry with Stafford. Is he coming in to compete with second-year center Beaux Limmer, or simply offering depth and mentorship?…
Toné! Pastoors@Carl_noWinslow
Coleman Shelton back = solid iOL depthzn
Moderatorfrom the old draft profile, by Lance Zierlein: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/poona-ford/3200464f-5231-3563-7ceb-0c4e0d3f4032
Strengths
Good thickness and power in his lower body. Gets into neutral zone quickly with low pad level and in a leveraged position. Able to bend hips and strike with good lift at point of attack. Longer arms than expected for his squatty frame. Has decent lateral quickness to challenge reach blocks. Gives effort to make plays outside of his area. Flashes adequate upper body power. Gets enough upper body turn to pry into gaps. Has some disruptive qualities up the field and has leg drive to play through redirect blocks.
Weaknesses
Much shorter than teams usually like. Uses legs rather than hands and arm extension to try and gain control at the point of attack. Needs hands to become more violent and consistent at the point of attack. Struggles to pry himself off blocks quickly to make tackles in his gap. Gets caught behind size and loses track of the football. Pays too much attention to blocker in front of him rather than play development at times. If he doesn’t win with power as rusher, he won’t win.
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ModeratorI think getting a short, stout veteran NT who is known for playing the run…is just what the doctor ordered.
Rams know who he is. They played against him when he was in Seattle from 2018-2022.
I can’t wait to see what they do with the draft. So far this is a very good off-season.
March 10, 2025 at 9:47 am in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155397zn
ModeratorDavante Adams signing with Rams on 2-year, $46 million deal: Sources
By Jourdan Rodrigue, Dianna Russini
The Los Angeles Rams have signed receiver Davante Adams to a two-year deal worth $46 million with $26 million guaranteed, league sources told The Athletic on Sunday afternoon.
The Rams later confirmed they had signed Adams.
Adding Adams, 32, continues the Rams’ rebuild of their wide receivers room after the team made its decision last month to move on from 2021 triple-crown winner and Super Bowl LVI MVP Cooper Kupp. The team previously also extended receiver Tutu Atwell on a one-year deal worth $10 million, a league source said.
Adams played three games for the Las Vegas Raiders last season before his trade to the New York Jets, where the hope was he and quarterback Aaron Rodgers would re-create some of the magic they had in past seasons in Green Bay. Adams was released from the Jets having played just 11 games and expressed his interest in returning to the West Coast, according to league sources familiar with his thinking. The three-time All-Pro is still playing at a high level and had 1,063 yards and eight touchdowns in 2024 despite all of the shuffling.
Adams was the No. 3-ranked free agent on The Athletic’s list of the top 150 free agents in 2025 and the second receiver.
Selected in the second round of the 2014 NFL Draft out of Fresno State by the Green Bay Packers, Adams is a six-time Pro Bowler and three-time All-Pro. The 6-foot-1, 215-pound wideout has five seasons with more than 100 receptions and six years with more than 1,000 yards and at least 10 touchdowns.
In 11 seasons with the Packers, Raiders and Jets, Adams has 957 career receptions, 11,844 receiving yards and 103 touchdowns. Among active players, he ranks second in receiving touchdowns and fourth in receptions and receiving yards. Adams has only played two seasons when Rodgers was not his primary starting quarterback.
How he fits
Once the Rams decided their offense/passing game will now flow through Puka Nacua, they also wanted to be aggressive in their pursuit of players who could complement the younger star. Extending Atwell as a speed option was one step in the two-part process. Sean McVay especially pursued Adams as a large-framed target for Stafford, who can get open from several alignments.
McVay especially led an aggressive pursuit of Adams in recent days, a league source said.
2025 impact
A trio of Nacua, Adams and Atwell at receiver, plus running back Kyren Williams and tight end Tyler Higbee gives the Rams more of a schematic feel akin to what we’d seen in the first half of Super Bowl LVI, except with a much more productive run game. Then, Kupp was the focal point (now Nacua) and Odell Beckham Jr. provided pop as an all-around asset in the receiving game, with downfield receiver Van Jefferson taking the top off the defense. Substitute in the modern iteration: Nacua, orbited by Adams and Atwell, with Williams as the lead back and Higbee back for at least one more ride and there’s a sense McVay is hoping to field an explosive and multiple offense.
Outlook
It’s hard to picture a McVay-led offense that doesn’t feature Kupp. That said, the Rams were aggressive in their overhaul and added skills complementary to Nacua via their two signings. In Adams, the Rams have another new star receiver in L.A., and Stafford has an “X.”
March 10, 2025 at 9:11 am in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155396zn
Moderatorfrom https://nflrankings.theringer.com/free-agency
Davante Adams
Wide receiver, Jets
March 9: Adams signs with RamsBecause he was released by the Jets, Adams didn’t have to wait for the formal start of free agency to find a new team. And now, he’s headed to Los Angeles on a two-year, $46 million deal with $26 million guaranteed, according to NFL Network. If Adams had signed this deal with another team, I’d be harping on the risks of signing a 32-year-old wide receiver to a contract this big. But you know what? I totally get it for the Rams! They are as “win now” as any team in the NFL, given that Matthew Stafford is 37 years old. In Adams, the Rams get a reliable veteran who will be a nice complement to Puka Nacua. If the Rams’ pass protection can hold up, this offense has a chance to be exciting. Could both Stafford and Adams show serious signs of decline, resulting in the Rams taking a step back in 2025? Of course. That’s the risk. But the Rams chose a direction and are going for it. I respect that.
Grade: B
The best of the veteran wide receiver options.
We have ourselves a classic “two things can be true” situation here:1. Adams is not the player he once was.
2. Adams can still help a team if the fit is right.
He finished last year with 85 catches for 1,063 yards. That was in three games with the Raiders and 11 games with the Jets. Adams’s yards per reception average (12.5) was pretty much right alongside his career average (12.4). Let’s pair him with a good quarterback on a contending team and see what he has left. ,
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Moderator“The Rams think they can win a Super Bowl in the next two years with Davante Adams & Matt Stafford”@colincowherd on Rams adding Davante Adams pic.twitter.com/XuzojrIeMP
— The Volume (@TheVolumeSports) March 10, 2025
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ModeratorChase Daniel@ChaseDaniel
Davante Adams, Puka Nacua, Kyren Williams & Matthew Stafford are a top 3/4 skill group in NFL.Rams are looking scary good.
March 10, 2025 at 4:42 am in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155390zn
Moderator.@nyjets @RamsNFL @tae15adams is a RAM..Great fit…The king of the "releases" takes his act to the City of Angels. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/iSdVCcU1hU
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) March 10, 2025
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ModeratorHoward Balzer@HBalzer721
Davante Adams deal value is $44M, not $46M, but has $1M incentives each year. $26M gtd includes $12M signing bonus. Cap charge is $14M this year and jumps to $30M in 2026: $18M base, $6M SB proration, $6M roster bonus. If they move on before paying RB, dead money is $6M.zn
ModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
To me, it feels like McVay is going for the 2025 iteration of how the first part of the SB unfolded back before Beckham Jr got hurt – but with a better run game and healthy Higbee.zn
ModeratorOkay maybe I don’t know enough about this hah. From CBS Sports:
It wouldn’t be surprising if the Rams end up releasing Kupp given the supply of older wide receivers and Kupp’s injury history and production over the last three seasons. The Rams will initially have $22.26 million in 2025 dead money where $7.52 million of 2025 cap room is created by releasing Kupp before the last $2.5 million of his $7.5 million roster bonus becomes a payment obligation on March 16.
Kupp would surely get a contract from another team for more than $5 million. The offset with the roster bonus guarantee means the Rams would get the first $5 million from Kupp’s next contract. The end result would be $17.26 million in dead money where the Rams gain a total for $12.52 million of cap space relating to Kupp’s release.
I don’t know enough about this, but I think that if they release him with a post-June 1 designation, he has to remain on the Ram books until May 31, in which case the roster bonus they’re trying to avoid would actually count against their cap. I think.
March 9, 2025 at 10:45 pm in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155378zn
ModeratorIn Sean McVay’s eight years as the head coach, the Rams have only had one other year where they averaged fewer yards per game than they averaged (331) in 2024. That was the 2022 season where things went off the rails and everyone was hurt in the second half of the year.
It became clear that the offense needed help around Matthew Stafford, Kyren Williams and Nacua, and the front office wasted no time making a splash. The team agreed to a two-year, $46 million deal with Davante Adams on Sunday, bringing in one of the top wide receivers on the market.
With Cooper Kupp on his way out of Los Angeles via trade or release, the Rams could use another wide receiver to pair with Nacua. Adams is a terrific fit in L.A., specifically with the offense McVay runs. Even at the age of 32, Adams is still a threat no matter where he lines up on the field.
His route running is among the best of any wide receiver in the league, with eye-popping releases at the line of scrimmage that allow him to create easy separation. According to ESPN, Adams was 14th in separation score last season, showing just how often he got open for his quarterbacks.
March 9, 2025 at 10:42 pm in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155377zn
ModeratorAJ Schulte@AJSchulteFB
Davante Adams was 14th in ESPN’s separation score last season despite his age.Still an elite separator and will bring the juice the Rams have missed since OBJ in their Super Bowl run.
March 9, 2025 at 10:33 pm in reply to: why Davonte Adams is good…update, must read: Matt Bowen on Adams #155376zn
ModeratorOlder comment (from 2020) from James Jones, former Packers receiver: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30252122/why-davante-adams-turned-better-all-green-bay-packers-special-receivers
Jones: “When you look at the receivers in the league, you can say that this is their strong point and this is their weak point. With Davante, you can’t say any of that. I watch [Cardinals receiver DeAndre] Hopkins, and he’s not very good releasing at the line of scrimmage, for example. But when you talk about Davante, you’re talking about release, he’s phenomenal. [Yards after catch] yardage, he’s phenomenal. Route running, he’s phenomenal. The ability to go up and make the tough catch, he’s phenomenal. Speed, yeah he’s not 4.3 [seconds], but he’s always getting behind and catching the deep balls or not getting caught from behind. He’s just special in every category.”
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Moderator“I think the Rams will be a really good spot for him.”
The great @GregCosell was all over Davante Adams signing with the Rams on Wednesday’s show: pic.twitter.com/Tmc2Lytydt
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) March 9, 2025
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ModeratorDavante in LA.
pic.twitter.com/mKoVszgEF1
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) March 9, 2025
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ModeratorRAMS REPORT@RamsNFLReport
Below are both Cooper Kupp & Davante Adams’ stats.Adams has been much more productive and reliable throughout his career, notably the past 3 seasons (22-24).
Kupp: 33 gp, 201 rec, 2,259 yds, 17 tds
Adams: 48 gp, 288 rec, 3,723 yds, 30 tdsI love Kupp, but this is an upgrade.
Wyatt Miller@wymill07
Davante Adams has always been an elite route runner and man coverage beater.Adams was one of 16 qualified WRs with over 2.5 yards per route run against man coverage last season, despite being in 2 separate offenses.
Matt Bowen@MattBowen41
Davante Adams to the Rams…Adams can beat press/separate on the isolation throws in the LA offense. And McVay will scheme for Adams on PA/movement. Free access off the ball + zone voids to attack.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Scary addition for the rest of the NFCzn
ModeratorTrying to post this story on my phone not getting far
Got yer back.
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Rams, WR Davante Adams agree to terms on 2-year deal
Jourdan Rodrigue @jourdanrodrigue.bsky.social
Sean McVay led a pretty aggressive charge at Davante Adams over the last couple of days, I am told.As my colleague @diannarussini.bsky.social reported, it’s a deal worth $46 million with $26 million guaranteed
PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Davante Adams has had a Yards Per Route Run mark of at least 1.97 in each of the past seven seasons:2024 – 2.04
2023 – 1.97
2022 – 2.45
2021 – 2.82
2020 – 2.96
2019 – 2.33
2018 – 2.12Doug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrar
Davante Adams was not given the benefit of being the target in motion on any of his 16 explosive receptions last season.Guess who led the league with 50 targets in motion? Puka Nacua.
Guess who ranked fourth in the league with 41? Cooper Kupp
Pete Prisco@PriscoCBS
Not exactly adding speed to an offense that needs it. Weird move.zn
Moderatorhttps://www.therams.com/news/rams-wr-davante-adams-agree-to-terms-on-2-year-deal
Trying to post this story on my phone not getting farGot yer back.
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Rams, WR Davante Adams agree to terms on 2-year deal
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-wr-davante-adams-agree-to-terms-on-2-year-deal
WOODLAND HILLS, Calif. – The Rams have agreed to terms with wide receiver Davante Adams on a two-year deal.
Adams, 32, is coming off his fifth-consecutive 1,000 yard season, accomplishing the feat across three games with the Raiders (18 receptions for 209 yards) and 11 with the Jets (67 for 854) after being traded from Las Vegas to New York during the 2024 season. He also caught eight touchdowns in addition to those 85 receptions for 1,063 yards.
A three-time First-Team All-Pro and six-time Pro Bowl selection, Adams has amassed 957 receptions for 11,844 yards and 103 touchdowns in 11 NFL seasons, with 157 starts in 164 career games played in the regular season.
He originally entered the league as a second-round pick (No. 53 overall) by the Green Bay Packers in the 2014 NFL Draft.
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ModeratorBrett Kollmann@BrettKollmann
Kupp ran 4.6 at the combine because he didn’t really know how to do track prep, but during his 2018 ACL rehab his PTs fixed his gate and started running 20-21mph after. He always had natural juice, that just unlocked it.zn
ModeratorI love the DL, but seems like they could use a couple of earth-mover types
Well as it happens, this draft is exceptionally good for interior DL.
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ModeratorSo do the Rams have cap room this year? Seems like they havent had much cap space since the Super Bowl year.
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vIt’s kind of unclear until we see what the Jackson, Atwell, and Stafford contracts–along with the J.Jackson trade–all do to the numbers.
On paper, right now, before those contracts are factored in, they have around 54 M in cap space.
This is before they factor in the moves I list in the quotation.
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NFL Stats@NFL_Stats
Cap space available for each team, per Spotrac:NE – $125.8M
WAS – $93.8M
LAC – $93.8M
ARI – $77.8M
PIT – $63.9M
MIN – $63.8M
TEN – $63.2M
SEA – $62.6M
JAX – $60.2M
LAR – $55.1MHere’s a part of it:
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Jason_OTC@Jason_OTC
Breaking down the #Rams $57.75M contract extension with OT Alaric Jackson:https://overthecap.com/player/alaric-jackson/9957Sosa Kremenjas@QBsMVP
Just $7M on the cap this year. Awesome stuffzn
ModeratorGot this from Pro Football Journal, The NFL’s Top Post-WWII Guards: https://nflfootballjournal.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-nfls-top-post-wwii-guards.html
It’s a ranking. I pull all their Rams guards from their top 50 list
18. Tom Mack
Thirteen Pro Bowls. Mack was a dominant player versus the run and the pass early in his career. In his last few years, he got by on savvy and experience as his strength and speed seemed to decline. His first eight or so seasons were like Zach Martin is now, but his last several were just not as dominant. Bob Lilly named Jim Parker the toughest lineman he faced but Mack was second on his list. Larry Little said, “Mack could do it all”.Mack was voted to 11 Pro Bowls in 13 seasons and was a First-team All-Pro five times and a Second-team All-Pro three times. When you add in his All-Conference selections to all that, Mack got post-season honors in 12 of his 13 seasons. PFJ named him to the 1965-1975 All-Mid-Decade Team as well. He played in 184 games, never missing one.
34. Duane Putnam
Like Stan Jones, he was one of the first weightlifters. But he was also able to run very well and was the best pulling guard of the 1950s in our view.Putnam played eleven seasons, mostly with the Rams. He went to five Pro Bowls, was First-team All-Pro five times (three consensus) and was also a Second-team All-Pro one additional season. He was also a 1955-65 All-Mid Decade selection by PFJ.
38. Tom Newberry
Strong, quicker, great trap blocker would flatten people. Started off his career like a possible Hall of Famer but after a few years seemed to lose some size and strength and was no longer dominant, just adequate. “Newberry is fast and strong and loves to pancake defenders”, wrote Buchsbaum when Newberry was at his peak. He also said a couple of years later, “He’s the NFL’s fastest guard, even after knee troubles, but he’s not playing as well as he can.”He was “compact, quick and exploded off the ball, getting movement and collapsing on people. With good body control, he’s good at locating defenders on the move. He had long arms that helped compensate lack of height, sometimes a little over-aggressive and could be beaten on stunts.” said one NFL scout, also in the late-1980s.
43. Dennis Harrah
A taller guard with great upper-body strength. In his early years could pull with the best of them. Later became a more efficient pass blocker but did get called for holding a lot. “A very, very strong one-on-one blocker. A good pass blocker who has good pulling speed bus is not overly nimble”, said Buchsbaum.44. Kent Hill
Hill was 6-5, 260, and would run a 4.8 and had the build of Adonis. Super-long arms helped him in pass protection and was perhaps the best pulling guard/long trapper of his era. The 47 Gap play, Eric Dickerson’s favorite, relied on guards who could move and Harrah and Hill you’d do that making the 48 Gap as successful as the 47 Gap.March 8, 2025 at 3:30 pm in reply to: around the league: including, Seahawks Trade Geno Smith to the Raiders #155351zn
ModeratorJordan Schultz@Schultz_Report
Sources: The #Seahawks, after trading Geno Smith to the #Raiders, have shifted their primary focus to Sam Darnold. He is their No. 1 option, and there is mutual interest on his behalf as well.It is highly unlikely that Darnold returns to the #Vikings, according to multiple sources.
The #Seahawks got a prime look at Sam Darnold in Week 16, when he threw 3 TDs (0 INTs), while leading a game-winning #Vikings’ drive that culminated in a 39-yard TD pass to Justin Jefferson.
Seattle has contingency plans at QB, but Darnold is their top choice.
Ed Werder@WerderEdNFL
I still recall a conversation with Pete Carroll in 2023 when he shared his opinion that Geno Smith throws it as well as anyone in football.Now reunited as Raiders following last night’s trade.
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Me (at moi.com): Picking up on what Werder says in that tweet, what I don’t see mentioned enough in this whole discussion nationally about Smith and Seattle and LV is that Smith signed with Seattle under Pete Carroll, and Carroll had him for 4 years. Carroll went 12-4 in 2020 with Smith.
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ModeratorSo do the Rams have cap room this year? Seems like they havent had much cap space since the Super Bowl year.
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vIt’s kind of unclear until we see what the Jackson, Atwell, and Stafford contracts–along with the J.Jackson trade–all do to the numbers.
On paper, right now, before those contracts are factored in, they have around 54 M in cap space.
This is before they factor in the moves I list in the quotation.
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NFL Stats@NFL_Stats
Cap space available for each team, per Spotrac:NE – $125.8M
WAS – $93.8M
LAC – $93.8M
ARI – $77.8M
PIT – $63.9M
MIN – $63.8M
TEN – $63.2M
SEA – $62.6M
JAX – $60.2M
LAR – $55.1Mzn
ModeratorLe future.
Cause of several trades, Rams have 10 picks (so far) in 2026.
1st – 1
2nd – 1
3rd – 1
4th – 1
5th – 2
6th – 3
7th – 1zn
ModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
49ers claimed CB Tre Tomlinson off waivers from the Los Angeles Rams.zn
Moderator"Jared Goff got so much better his second year with us because he trusted us to protect him..
Being able to have that veteran presence in the huddle is so important" ~ @AndrewWhitworth #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/SEXrayjBmN
— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) March 7, 2025
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ModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
I am so very proud of my twin sister Mattie, an ocean scientist and the science program director at OceanX, secondly for the crucial work she does for our planet and expanding STEM opportunities for global communities – and firstly because she got to hang out with Keanu Reeves: -
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