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znModeratorznModeratorznModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
An incomplete but representative list of players acquired by LA through trade or free agency since 2017 who’ve thrived/attained new heights:Andrew Whitworth
Robert Woods
Nickell Robey-Coleman
Brandin Cooks
Dante Fowler
Jalen Ramsey
Leonard Floyd
A’Shawn Robinson
Matthew Stafford
Kevin Dotson
Kam CurlznModeratorwas waiting for a reaction from a Seahawk fan.
Anyway. Deacon. Merlin. JYB. Donald. Now, Myles.
Not to mention Robert Quinn, Kevin Carter, Chris Long, Leonard Little, Larry Brooks, Lamar Lundy, Rosey Grier, Fred Dryer.Not sure any other team can match that. Maybe Dallas. Maybe the Vikes. Colts maybe. Dunno.
I think that the Rams deep history on both DL and OL has few if any equals.
And Garrett joins good company in LA. Young on the other side (who was the real terror v. Seattle when he wasn’t playing hurt). Turner, Fiske. In his own way, Poona Ford.
znModeratorWith Myles Garrett On Board, the Rams Can Break Offensive Football
Sean McVay’s coaching staff is uniquely positioned to use their new star in fresh ways to torture opposing offenses.Conor Orr
https://www.si.com/nfl/myles-garrett-rams-break-offensive-football
Myles Garrett became a legend in Cleveland, but he could be used even more effectively on his new team.
Ultimately, this is far bigger than Myles Garrett being traded to a Super Bowl contender. The Rams under Les Snead and Sean McVay have understood the value of an experienced veteran over the uncertainty of late-round draft picks (while still managing to develop an adequate farm system) more than almost any other team in professional football. The fact that the duo managed to sniff out the Browns’ interest in trading Garrett and pounce on the opportunity is not a surprise. Really, the fact that other teams did not after Cleveland altered the structure of Myles Garrett’s contract and then begged reporters to stop asking about it is the most surprising development of Monday’s bombshell.
But with McVay in particular, he has understood how the addition of individual players into lineups can short-circuit the hardwiring of almost any other team. He and Kyle Shanahan have taken over the NFL not by schematic force but by tinkering with the delicate scales that often balance an offense and defense. The development of a 49ers offense in which nearly every skill-position player could perform exceptionally well at two positions changed football. The Rams’ discovery of a wide receiver prototype that could block like a tight end changed football, just like the Rams’ usage of three-tight-end sets last year. If you had any doubt, go back through recent football history and watch the drafts subsequent to great Rams or 49ers seasons. Tight ends throttled up draft boards this year, for example, with 12-personnel (a set involving two tight ends) very likely becoming industry standard, with three-tight-end usage also skyrocketing.
Garrett is the defensive equivalent of those respective evolutions. Again, this is not just the Rams acquiring a great player. This is the Rams attempting to break offensive football the way the team has already successfully broken defense. One offensive coordinator with a long history of experience against Garrett said he, along with Aaron Donald and J.J. Watt, were very likely the only three players that warranted absolute down-to-down consideration from a play-caller and a minimum of four hands blocking at all times. That is an incredible tool in the hands of a team, especially one that has been outpacing the rest of the NFL in terms of raw intelligence for the past decade.
Under normal circumstances that is like replacing your defensive coordinator’s handgun with a grenade launcher.
Under McVay, this is handing the Rams passwords to every computer in every facility in the NFL. McVay and DC Chris Shula in concert, having a broader grasp on offensive football, will be able to use Garrett in ways that we have not seen previously, or to simply use the idea of him in a more devastating way. By allowing offenses each week to present their desperate attempts at containment—a process that will involve a cadre of wing players, tight ends and tackles deployed in various ways to maintain a proper phalanx around Garrett—McVay and Shula can then more easily understand what counterpunch can break the remainder of an offense that has now understaffed itself out of singular respect for Garrett. McVay can also more authoritatively advise how another team will attempt to stop Garrett, which opens Shula up for a suite of creative secondary blitzes, stunts and other chicanery at the snap.
Garrett is such an incredible outlier when it comes to the rate of double teams he receives, which occur on more than 55% of his snaps, and the skill he possesses, even amid that extra pressure. When reduced to its simplest form, Garrett is altering the math on a football field, allowing a defense to play 11 on 10, or, really, in the case of a nonmobile quarterback, 11 vs. 9. Nevermind the fact that Garrett will actually be playing with leads.
A defensive coach added this for thought: Teams tend to run away from Garrett at a very reliable rate. Teams also tend to slide their pass protection on every down toward Garrett. Teams tend to send fewer receivers out for passing routes when facing Garrett. That statistical dependency, when placed in the hands of coaches who have manipulated those odds better than any staff in the NFL, is a doomsday scenario. McVay and Shula now know exactly which way you’re running the football, exactly where your offensive linemen will move and exactly which receivers are going to be looking for passes before the ball is even snapped.
The best teams in the NFL often have coaching staffs that are not siloed from one another. Kevin O’Connell and Brian Flores often battle schematically and, through that process, have developed a better understanding of how to attack and how an attack will come. The same can be said for Andy Reid and Steve Spagnuolo, and Shane Steichen and Lou Anarumo. It’s why the Shanahan tree prioritizes coaches who have made the transition from defensive coaching to offensive coaching. It’s why Bill Belichick staffed his brightest young defensive coaches under the wings of offensive coaches. Until you know how to line up a series of blockers to shut down a dominant defensive end, you are less likely to be able to design a defense that is beyond effective and more virus-like in nature.
For those saying this is sad for Cleveland, I look at it differently. The Browns somehow managed to get the season out of Garrett that will keep him in the record books forever and one day be etched on the bust of a statue that sits outside the team’s stadium, then get Jared Verse and a handful of picks in return a year later.
But Cleveland’s legacy with Garrett, as was the case with other transcendent players during the Browns’ reboot, like Joe Thomas, will be the inability to properly weaponize beyond individual accomplishments. The Browns have always had access to great players because the Browns have always had high draft picks. Since 1999, the Browns have had 17 top-15 selections (not including the years wiped out for the Deshaun Watson trade) and nine selections inside the top five. We can use this as the basis of an interesting thought experiment as to why there is so much confidence in whatever the draft capital from Garrett becomes versus the benefit of actually trying to build that transcendently great unit around one of the best players in NFL history, but that is a decision Cleveland has wrestled with individually since its self-rebrand about 10 years ago as an analytically forward organization. The team has always seemingly understood the economics. What it has lacked is the ability to make individual greatness into universal greatness.
There is no doubt that Cleveland has done the right thing with Garrett in terms of the timing, the return and, really, the humanity. Keeping Garrett there simply to say he was never anywhere else is like caging a rare butterfly or buying da Vinci’s Salvator Mundi just to box it up in your garage under some old newspapers. The metaphor is something like an aspiring artist realizing that, before he does any more damage to his canvases, brushes, paints and other supplies, he can sell them on Facebook marketplace and recoup some of the cost.
The only difficulty is finding out what happens to those brushes and canvases once in the hands of an artist.
znModeratorNate Atkins@NateAtkins_
The most I’ve ever seen NFL players fan out over another NFL player was with Myles Garrett in 2023.He leapt over the line to block a field goal and had 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles, including a strip-sack for a TD.
Colts players were interrupting their own rants to praise him.
znModeratorRams agree to terms on trade to acquire Myles Garrett from Browns
Stu Jackson
WOODLAND HILLS, Calif. – The Rams have agreed to terms on a trade to acquire All-Pro edge Myles Garrett from the Browns.
In exchange for the 30-year-old Garrett, Los Angeles sent outside linebacker Jared Verse and a 2027 first-round pick, 2028 second-round pick, and 2029 third-round pick to Cleveland.
The reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year, Garrett is coming off a 2025 season in which he set the new NFL single-season sack record with 23. He also won NFL Defensive Player of the Year for the 2023 season.
A five-time First-Team All-Pro and seven-time Pro Bowl selection, he has amassed 125.5 sacks through his first nine NFL seasons – most among active players. The First-Team All-Pro recognition has come in five of his last six seasons – including the last three consecutively – with six of those seven Pro Bowl nods coming consecutively over the last six years.
He has also logged double-digit sacks every year since his second season in the league – eight straight years.
Overall, he has played in 134 games (131 starts) and recorded 412 tackles (293 solo), 149 tackles for loss, 125.5 sacks, 23 forced fumbles, six fumble recoveries, 613 pressures, 372 hurries and one defensive touchdown.
Garrett originally entered the NFL as the No. 1 overall pick in the 2017 draft by the Browns out of Texas A&M.
znModeratorAaron….. DO IT! @AaronDonald97 pic.twitter.com/sA0N3FFW69
— Esco Familia (@EscoFamilia) June 1, 2026
znModeratorNick Wagoner@nwagoner
The NFC West has been one of the league’s most daunting divisions plenty of times in the past 15 or so years.But goodness, that’s one tough neighborhood right now.
znModeratorSam Monson@SamMonsonNFL
OK, they can wait a year maybe to re-up Verse, but when they do he’s gonna want 40, 45m a year.The Rams have a better player at functionally $33m/y
Louis Riddick@LRiddickESPN
#Rams doing it like you should…using every avenue possible to win now while also having an eye towards the future. Well done.Steve Wyche@wyche89
Myles Garrett going to LA gives him the chance to finally experience winning, a consistent culture and a chance at a Super Bowl. Cleveland continues to rebuild. Smart move for all sidesHoward Balzer@HBalzer721
Myles Garrett started all 17 games this past season. Garrett played 868 defensive snaps. Garrett has had 8 consecutive double-digit sack seasons.Greg Beacham@gregbeacham
Myles Garrett’s raw numbers are wild. He’s had double-digit sacks in 8 consecutive seasons. All Rams players combined have only had 8 double-digit sack seasons in the past 10 years, and 5 of those were Aaron Donald.Doug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrar
It didn’t matter how great the opposing tackle was — single-teaming Myles Garrett last season was an undisputed invitation to getting your quarterback killed.LAFB Network@LAFBNetwork
The reigning NFL MVP and reigning DPOY are now teammates on the Rams.The ONLY other time that happened in NFL history?
🏆 Steve Young & Deion Sanders on the 49ers.
Conor Orr@ConorOrr
Sean McVay getting Myles Garrett was like handing L.A. the password to every opponent’s computer.
NFL Researcher@NFL_Researcher
Most sacks in first 10 NFL seasons…1. Reggie White – 145.0 (HOF)
2. Jared Allen – 128.5 (HOF)
3. DeMarcus Ware – 127.0 (HOF)
4. Myles Garrett – 125.5
5. Derrick Thomas – 119.5 (HOF)znModeratorChris reacts to Myles Garrett being traded to the Rams‼️ pic.twitter.com/nWyVqAkE6J
— Green Light with Chris Long (@greenlight) June 1, 2026
znModerator"This is the best team in the NFL. … They add a player in Myles Garrett who, is not just the best defensive player in the league, [he] might be the best player in the entire league."@minakimes reacts to Myles Garrett getting traded to the Rams 👀 pic.twitter.com/rmH0xJbklN
— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) June 1, 2026
znModeratorthe nfc west: pic.twitter.com/pzQm53Mb7E
— Annie Agar (@AnnieAgar) June 1, 2026
znModeratorSteve and Sam break down the Myles Garrett trade and why it might be a win-win for both sides 👀
“Generally speaking, I’m against trading away the best players in the NFL, but if you're going to do that, getting Jared Verse back as part of the trade is about as good as you can… pic.twitter.com/QDX1aKCwUi
— Check the Mic with Steve Palazzolo & Sam Monson (@CTM_Show) June 1, 2026
znModerator.@RamsNFL @Kyrenwilliams23 catches this playoff TD throw from the MVP; Matt Stafford…the perfection of a diamond cutter…b/c it had to be that perfect. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/E15k1VAx7b
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) June 1, 2026
znModeratorI’ve now had about fifteen minutes to think about this. …and I’d like to be the FIRST to begin the board-war-question: So….who’s better, Aaron Donald or Myles Garrett?
I shall take my leave now.
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vDonald’s better because he did it from the inside, which means he faced more blockers.
But that’s not to say Garrett is just a bag of carrots.
Garrett is an A+. Donald was an A++.
znModeratorI think this is great. And in fact, relatively a bargain. Is he on the downside? I don’t think so at all. I think he’s in peak form.
He’ll give them more than Von Miller did in 2021.
It’s odd to hear some of the criticisms out there (though they’re not common–this is widely considered to be a slam dunk).
On the one hand, some people say you took Simpson, what about “all in for this year”?
On the other hand, some people say with Garrett, what about the future?
I’m with those who say they did both.
Plus they have Young, Turner, and Nacua coming up as free agents. Odds are they were never going to be in a position to sign Verse. Now they have a player who is consistently better than Verse, and already under contract.
In terms of “trading away picks,” they did it before—and thrived. They went “all in” throwing picks at Ramsey, Von Miller, and Stafford. Odds are, when the day comes that Garrett is gone, they will do it again.
I see the Rams as not just leading the pack when it comes to personnel stuff, I see them as lapping the pack.
znModeratorWhy the Rams Decided to Swing for the Myles Garrett Blockbuster
Los Angeles is trying to once again turn the Super Bowl into a home game, while the Browns acquired a great player who fits their timeline.Albert Breer
https://x.com/AlbertBreer/status/2061499767184593097
Myles Garrett is a Ram.
Let that sink in.
In the years since their Super Bowl LVI title, the franchise’s f— them-picks regime has shed icons like Aaron Donald, Cooper Kupp, Jalen Ramsey and Andrew Whitworth. They’ve built through the draft, bringing in young cornerstones such as Kyren Williams, Puka Nacua, Byron Young, Kobie Turner, Braden Fiske and Jared Verse, among others. And now, they’ve ripped the governor off, and punched the gas toward Super Bowl LXI in their home stadium.
The Rams are trading Verse, a 25-year-old star rusher good enough to draw comparisons to Terrell Suggs, to the Browns, along with a 2027 first-round pick, a 2028 second-round pick and a 2029 third-round pick for Garrett, who has been first-team All-Pro five times and second-team All-Pro twice in his nine-year career.
In doing so, Los Angeles GM Les Snead and coach Sean McVay are pushing their chips in on a team that went toe-to-toe with the Super Bowl champion Seahawks in the NFC title game last year, has the reigning MVP at quarterback, and pushed the button on another monster trade for a veteran only three months ago with the acquisition of Chiefs All-Pro corner Trent McDuffie.
And this blockbuster deal goes back almost that far. In March, the Rams went down the road with the Eagles on the idea of a trade for A.J. Brown—one that would be centered on a 2028 first-rounder and contingent on a corresponding deal to send Davante Adams elsewhere. The team couldn’t thread the needle on sequencing a Brown-Adams double, and there were some concerns about Brown’s knee. But the Rams showed then that they had a big swing in them.
Then, the move to take Ty Simpson with the 13th pick—seen by many as a move that wouldn’t help Matthew Stafford in the here and now—actually was viewed internally as one that gave the Rams the flexibility they needed to help Stafford get another ring in the most profound way possible. With their next quarterback in the fold, the team could afford to be more creative to find a way to add another massive piece because they wouldn’t need to worry about spending a first-rounder in 2027 or 2028 on Stafford’s replacement.
How the Rams landed on Garrett
The Rams, remember, had a difference-maker of the highest order on defense for a decade in Donald, and with that added flexibility with their draft picks, their eyes turned to the idea of landing Garrett, who’d put in and rescinded a trade request a year earlier. And they knew, of course, that generating that sort of rare opportunity would force them to do something uncomfortable, and that in this case was trading a young player they badly wanted to keep—the Rams tried, right up until the end, to find a way not to include Verse in the deal.
As for the Browns, Garrett’s trade request, made during Super Bowl week in February 2025, did force the powers that be to at least ponder the idea of eventually moving him.
As such, GM Andrew Berry and the Browns had three principles they’d stick to on a deal. First, because Garrett isn’t a normal star, the normal two-first-round-picks framework of a star-centered deal (Khalil Mack, Ramsey, etc.) wasn’t going to work—the deal would have to serve the Browns both short term and long term. Second, along those lines, a young star on a cost-controlled deal at a premium position would have to be included in the deal. And third, having that star in the deal would be on top of getting premium draft capital.
Getting a two-time Pro Bowler, Verse, who’s only 25, and has two years left on his rookie deal, plus an option for 2028, on top of top-100 picks in the next three drafts, with a first-rounder coming in 11 months, would satisfy all of that.
Verse also lines up from a timeline standpoint with the Browns’ burgeoning young core. Last year’s trade to Jacksonville of the second pick and the right to draft Travis Hunter was an acknowledgment from Berry & Co. that Cleveland was more than a player away, and the group that made playoff appearances in 2020 and 2022, and won the franchise’s first playoff game since Bill Belichick was its coach, had aged out.
That doesn’t mean, by the way, that they didn’t think Garrett had a lot left. In fact, the Browns expected Garrett to age like Bruce Smith (who was four times first-team All-Pro and had seven double-digit sack seasons in his 30s, and won DPOY at 33) or Reggie White (who had five double-digit sack seasons in his 30s, and was first-team All-Pro at 34 and 37) did a generation ago. They saw him as that freakish, that driven and different.
Browns linebacker Jared Verse
Rams linebacker Jared Verse was traded to the Browns as part of the Myles Garrett deal. | Kirby Lee-Imagn ImagesWhy Verse fits with the Browns
It was just that, at this point, the value started to match up. Verse matches up age-wise with the guys they’ve drafted since the Hunter trade—players such as Carson Schwesinger, Mason Graham, Quinshon Judkins, Harold Fannin Jr., Dylan Sampson, and now Spencer Fano, KC Concepcion and Denzel Boston, who are all in their early 20s. He also plays the same position, again, a premium position, that Garrett does.
And all of those draft picks should help the Browns’ pursuit of their next quarterback, pending what happens with Deshaun Watson, Shedeur Sanders, Dillon Gabriel and rookie Taylen Green over the course of the next nine months, as they go forward with a young core that’ll be built to grow around whoever that quarterback winds up being.
But in the end, there’s also an acknowledgment here that, for Cleveland, this is trading a player like Jim Brown or Otto Graham, one whose name will be up in the stadium years from now and whose football career will be honored 45 minutes down the road in Canton.
Because of all that, the Browns have communicated with Garrett, who needed to waive his no-trade clause for the deal to be completed, on the potential that this could happen, and had Garrett come to Cleveland on Saturday to sit down with the Haslams and Berry.
There were signs this could happen, of course—pushing back the execution of Garrett’s $29.2 million option bonus to September, and Garrett skipping the start of OTAs (he was actually traveling through much of the spring). But the relationship that comes out of it remains intact, and in a good place, with everyone knowing Garrett will be back someday to be honored for the nine otherworldly seasons he had as a Brown, which includes breaking the NFL’s single-season sack record last year.
Similarly, the Rams, and McVay in particular, wanted to make sure the player they were so reluctant to give up, Verse, got the news from them first. That happened Monday. And with that, L.A. can move forward with the NFL’s MVP and now perhaps its best player on the roster, with the goal of turning the Super Bowl into a home game, the same way they did the last time when they made a trade of this magnitude.
znModeratorFrank Schwab@YahooSchwab
31 teams treat draft picks like invaluable assets and if they’re traded it’s like removing an appendage. (yes I’m exaggerating there … but not by much)The other team is the runaway Super Bowl favorite with the best roster in the NFL.
znModeratorJay Glazer@JayGlazer
Rams and Browns started talking about the Myles Garrett trade since draft time. One of the reasons they selected Ty Simpson in first round was because they knew they’d be without AT LEAST next years one. Rams were hoping to make it all draft capital and fought to not include Verse in deal to the end but he was a necessary for the Browns.znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
The Rams didn’t want to give up Jared Verse, but the Browns refused to trade Myles Garrett unless they got Verse in return.That’s how highly viewed Verse is in the Browns’ building.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
There are still more terms to be finalized on this one, I’m told. But Rams and Browns have an agreement for one of the biggest non-QB trades (or any trade) in NFL history.Geoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
Holy shit man. What a trade for the RamsAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
The trade of the off-seasonSam Monson@SamMonsonNFL
Rams are inheriting Garrett’s contract with low cap hits for 3 years and a functional APY of ~$33m for 3 years – very possibly the last 3 elite years he has left.That’s like 8th in EDGE APY, some ~15m/y under market now.
Contract wise, Garrett is a bargain for the Rams.
Rams already had the best roster in the NFL and they just upgraded one of their edge rushers to Myles Garrett – the best PLAYER in the NFL.
Steve Wyche@wyche89
Rams know how many points they gave up at the tail end of the season, including 69 in two losses to Seattle – games in which they combined for 64 points – and knew the issues to address. Aaaand Myles Garrett, Trent McDuffie, and Jaylon Watson added.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
One reason the @Rams were ok giving up next year’s No. 1 pick for Myles Garrett?By acting proactively to address life after Matthew Stafford by drafting Ty Simpson, it freed up next years first rounder to be used to address other parts of the roster
With their next QB already in place it allowed them to be aggressive in using future assets to maximize these next two seasons
Trust me. That’s the thought process and always was
@Rams HC Sean McVay told me at the owners meetings he needed closers on defense. With Garrett/McDuffie he now has two
The @RamsNFL have been playing three dimensional chess all offseason, and it all played out just as they envisioned. For now and the future.
Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
I think that’s a good return for the Browns, too, if they were ever going to trade the best defensive player in franchise history.Jared Verse has a Pro Bowl floor and a top-5 DE ceiling. They can wait on the ascension since they’re a year-plus away, and the draft haul is great.
Mina Kimes@minakimes
Myles Garrett rushing next to the Rams DTs (Turner and Fiske were 5th and 14th in pass rush win league-wide amongst DTs) is nasty, nasty stuff.Dane Brugler@dpbrugler
I was skeptical CLE would ever trade MG because the draft compensation would never be enough. However, getting back a player like JV changes the math.Still, a no-brainer move for LAR. For CLE, compensation was never going to be enough, but this probably closest they could get.
Brock Vierra@BrockVierra
Myles Garrett should be what Charles Haley meant to the Dallas Cowboys. A clear force and finisher that sets the foundation for offensive success.Very interested to see how the offense evolves as a result
Matt Verderame@MattVerderame
The Rams went to the NFC Championship Game last year and then added Trent McDuffie and Myles Garrett lolAri Meirov@MySportsUpdate
The scary part of Myles Garrett on the #Rams…A lot of Garrett’s production — including his NFL-record 23 sacks last season — came while playing on a team that was frequently trailing.
The thought of Garrett on a Rams team that should be playing with leads a lot more often is a scary one for the rest of the NFL.
znModeratorWell, he’s no Mike Wilcher.
But he’ll do.
Added note. Part of the logic of drafting Simpson was that it let the Rams play with the 2027 1st round pick, instead of waiting to use it for a qb. So much for the “but I thought they were going to go all in this year!” complaint.
znModeratorThe LA Rams have called the Cleveland Browns about star EDGE Myles Garrett, per a source. The Rams have reportedly offered a "Rickey Williams-esque" type trade for Garrett. The Philadelphia Eagles are also making a strong push, offering WR AJ Brown and more for the star. Craziest… pic.twitter.com/5MpRPyU73f
— Easton Butler (@Easton__Butler) June 1, 2026
znModeratorRob is everywhere now.
znModeratorWe hear the AJ Brown deal is as good as done. Where is he going and what's the compensation? Check out @Sportsboomcom for the details:https://t.co/fbfgzywA10
— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) May 31, 2026
znModeratorThe major drop in fan travel at this years World Cup held in North America, in-person engagement is primarily driven down by exorbitant ticket cost, hotels jacked up pricing, stricter travel and visa policies. No surprise! https://t.co/0jHmYlJ19g
— Tony Softli (@SoftliSEA) May 30, 2026
znModeratorznModeratorCJ Daniels, WR, Los Angeles Rams (Round 6, No. 197)
The Los Angeles Rams entered the draft possibly needing a successor for Davante Adams, who is entering the final year of his contract. Nobody expected them to wait until the sixth round and their second-last selection to pick one. That’ll matter little if CJ Daniels develops into the steal Sean McVay and Les Snead think he’s capable of becoming.
Daniels has some underrated route-running abilities and he also thrived as a contested-catch winner at both LSU and Miami. The Rams obviously know a little something about late-round receivers after landing Puka Nacua, one of the steals of the decade. Daniels has a favorable outlook in L.A.
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