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znModeratorI’ve been doing more reading around on him. I am not so sure he checks out medically (?)
well reports are that he cleared medical exams at the combine. but who knows? he lost a year to the neck injury. they thought his career was over. he transferred to ucla and had two great years. otherwise he’s a surefire first rounder looks like. it freaks me out a little bit but it also depends on what the doctors say. i could see him slipping. sounds like the most pro-ready edge rusher though.
this is from the following espn article. https://africa.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39615406/ucla-lb-laiatu-latu-hearing-no-concerns-neck-history “[Watkins] just looked at my scans and cleared me,” Latu said. “Because he’s had guys with the same, similar stuff, like Danielle Hunter and Peyton Manning, and he really just told me I would be able to play football.” that does ease my concern. if there’s no issue with the neck draft him.
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znModeratorBlaine Grisak @bgrisakTSTHaason Reddick to the Jets for a conditional 2026 3rd round pick. Really wanted him to go the Rams. Seems clear that they’re going to be patient and see how their pieces shake out. With Reddick no longer available, feels like it’s definite EDGE at 19 for the Rams.
znModeratorwho’s the worst clunker in rams’ history under the les snead regime?
Can’t complain too much about Lester’s draft picks….. Tavon and Tutu…. Tiny Tavon over DeAndre Hopkins, Robert Woods, Keenan Allen, and Goodwin….
Greg Robinson. But from what I read apparently even Holmes was behind that pick and still defends it. They saw it as swinging at the fences for greatness. But…they could have traded that pick. If the trade Buffalo did make that draft is any indication, the Rams would have gotten their 1st that year (9th) and their 1st in 2015 (19th). That would be with Lewan still available.
znModeratorwow. that makes me feel a little bit better about latu. i’m just worried about his neck injury he suffered, but if he checks out medically why not?
I’ve been doing more reading around on him. I am not so sure he checks out medically (?)
znModeratorCongratulations to Rams Director of Rehabilitation/Assistant Athletic Trainer Byron Cunningham, who was named the Professional Football Athletic Trainers Society's 2024 NFC Assistant Athletic Trainer of the Year:https://t.co/yf7hTFUdts
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) March 29, 2024
znModeratorWhy Rams invested heavily at guard position in free agency, and what’s next as the 2024 NFL Draft approaches
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-approach-initial-wave-2024-free-agency-what-s-next-draft
ORLANDO, Fla. – Externally, there may have been some ideas of the Rams’ biggest roster needs – namely on defense – and those positions subsequently being addressed as the new league year began.
But as free agency unfolded, the signings leaned toward the offense with the return of Kevin Dotson and the signings of Jonah Jackson, Colby Parkinson and Jimmy Garoppolo.
Of course, defense was addressed with the signings of defensive backs Kamren Curl and Darious Williams. Overall, though, each move was part of a strategic pivot and investment to best position the Rams in 2024.
“I think to (head coach) Sean (McVay) and (general manager) Les (Snead)’s credit, (as well as Vice President, Football & Business Administration) Tony (Pastoors) and the scouting staff, when you enter free agency with a lot of money for the first time, a lot of salary cap space, I think they looked at it as, ‘how do we build the best team?'” Rams President Kevin Demoff told theRams.com at the NFL Annual Meeting earlier this week. “Maybe not what the holes at the time were, (but) it’s always a long offseason. Last year proved you can fill holes all the way up through the season. I mean, I even think Carson Wentz right at the end. And the really good teams go out to the best players and (are) not just filling holes that stage. So I think, Sean, Les, the offensive staff, Tony, Matt Shearin, John McKay, Matt Waugh, had a vision that the best value in this year’s free agency is going to be at the guards, it’s where they thought the best player value alignment (was).”
Asked about their evaluation of the guard market, Pastoors said the entire offensive line as a market “has grown by leaps and bounds.” He pointed to what tackles on both sides are getting paid now, and how they’ve been fortunate with former left tackle Andrew Whitworth being on a team-friendly deal, as well as current starting right tackle Rob Havenstein and his agent Joe Panos always being great to work with.
“So we kind of had been fortunate to stay out of that, to some extent, out of the new heights of those markets,” Pastoors said. “From an interior, we’ve been kind of the same. We knew that growth was coming. We try to keep a pulse of what’s going on across the league, and you hear from other agents and what they thought it could be. And so when we were able to get the Kevin deal done prior to the start of free agency, I think that was really helpful because (it’s), ‘okay, we’re settled now.'”
According to Snead, Jackson got on their radar when he successfully made the jump from Rutgers to Ohio State as a grad transfer. They continued to follow his career after he got drafted by the Lions, and were monitoring him as a potential replacement for Dotson if they were unable to re-sign Dotson.
Pastoors said they were surprised that Jackson got to the negotiating period prior to the official start of free agency. They thought the Lions would try to bring Jackson back and do what the Rams had done with Dotson.
“When they didn’t, I think Sean and Les and the staff felt there was an opportunity to get bigger and stronger,” Pastoors said, adding that having two young, premier guards on deals that made sense was something they weren’t necessarily expecting, “but certainly excited to have.”
With Parkinson, it reminded Demoff of when the team signed Robert Woods as a free agent. Demoff emphasized he wasn’t saying Parkinson is going to be Woods, just that Parkinson is another really young player who they liked coming out of college and maybe didn’t have the role at his previous team where you see it a little bit differently for him.
“The size and fit for a Sean offense are really strong,” Demoff said. “And obviously Tyler (Higbee) has been such a workhorse for us, we’ve known we’ve needed to change that anyways, but where can you find a complement to a Davis Allen? And obviously coming off an injury, too.”
Demoff also said the Rams had been tracking Williams as a player who might potentially get cut. Meanwhile, Curl “was a player we really liked in the process,” but they thought he would be signed by another team right away. So when that didn’t materialize, they pivoted and worked to get him signed.
Curl’s situation is a little bit similar to Jackson’s, according to Demoff, in that you’re evaluating the entire market because you might lose a player – referring to Jordan Fuller’s market – but at the same time finding “a really valuable piece you might like.”
As for Garoppolo, Snead said they felt like his familiarity with their offensive system and playing style made him a better fit for the backup quarterback role, as much as they were “fans of” Carson Wentz.
So, what’s next?
Demoff points to last offseason serving as a lesson that some of the Rams’ best signings in free agency have come later in free agency, or after the draft, bringing up names like John Sullivan, Nickell Robey-Coleman, and more recently, Demarcus Robinson, Ahkello Witherspoon and Dotson.
“That’s where John McKay, Matt Waugh, our personnel department do some of their best work,” Demoff said. “I think you’ll see, we should never shut down that process.”
Along those lines, Demoff said you have to keep your finger on the pulse of the league. He recalled when the Rams were at the NFL Annual Meeting back in 2018 when Ndamukong Suh “kind of popped up out of nowhere, (and) we got the deal done.” They also left that year’s meeting with the chance that they might be able to trade for Brandin Cooks, and did so one week later.
“I think this is when you start to see some of the guys who may not get deals, or teams think they might better the price range, this is, as you get in and around the draft, when you can make those trades,” Demoff said. “Hey, a guy’s not there on draft day that you expected, there’s a vet you like, I think this is when we do our best work as a franchise. I’m excited to see what we do between now and that first Sunday in September, but then even from there until really through the trade deadline and the rest of the year. What you’re trying to do now is to set yourself up for success the rest of the time, and hopefully we will do that.”
znModerator12 players have recorded a 91.0+ PFF pass-rushing grade over a full season of work as a college edge rusher since 2014.
8 of the 12 are NFL Pro-Bowlers.
One of the ones that isn't is UCLA's Laiatu Latu, and he's done it twice.
— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) March 28, 2024
znModeratorAs great as Rams Class of 2023 was last season, feel like one or more of these Day 3 picks are going to make a leap in Year 2:
Nick Hampton (OLB)
Warren McClendon (OL)
Davis Allen (TE)
Tre Tomlinson (CB)
Ochaun Mathis (OLB)
Zach Evans (RB)
Jason Taylor (S)
Desjuan Johnson (DL)— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) March 28, 2024
znModeratorNFL head coaches react to Aaron Donald’s retirement, reflect on his legacy and impact
Stu Jackson
ORLANDO, Fla. – With Aaron Donald retiring after a decorated 10-year NFL career earlier this month, theRams.com asked a handful of head coaches at this year’s annual league meeting about his legacy and impact.
Here’s what they had to say:
Steelers HC Mike Tomlin
Given his lengthy tenure in Pittsburgh, Tomlin is very familiar with Donald – a native of the city who went to Pitt, which shares a facility with the Steelers – and has known him for a long time. So for him, what he remembers most about Donald is who he is as a person off the field, and his work ethic, more so than the on-field impact.
“I think my memories about him are probably more than personal than impact on the game. I have had the pleasure of knowing him since he was about 18 years old, and I just have witnessed his relationship he has had with the game. I have seen him getting out of his car when it was still very dark in the morning, and working solo over the course of a 12-month calendar.
“I remember when when the Rams won the Super Bowl man, it was probably less than a week later, man I saw him getting out of his car in Pittsburgh, PA, with sweats on and his bag, going to work. And I think that’s just indicative of who he is as a football man, and why he’s had the type of career he’s had and impact on the game he’s had. The secret is, there is no secret, man. This guy has built that thing brick by brick, and I’m just so respectful of what he’s done and how he’s gone about it.”
Bengals HC Zac Taylor (former Rams assistant WRs coach 2017, QBs coach 2018)
“He’s a game-wrecker. That’s who you had to start with when you play the Rams is, ‘How are we going to protect against this guy? How are we going to run against this guy?’ I’m thankful we don’t have to play him anymore.”
“(In practice), he’s one of those guys who, you just let him do his thing. And his wife Erica and my wife kind of came up together in Green Bay, their dads are close together. So I’m always pulling for them as a family. He always did it the right way, worked his tail off. He earned everything he ever got. So when you see him – he wasn’t always in every training camp I was at, and it always worked out well for him. He always showed up, and immediately hit the ground running, and I appreciated that. You always hold your breath, and then he showed up the first game, and all was good in the world. But a big fan of Aaron Donald and thankful we don’t have to play him anymore.”
Bills HC Sean McDermott
McDermott was a defensive coordinator for the Panthers when Donald entered the league, and was in his second season as head coach of the Bills when Donald won his second NFL Defensive Player of the Year award.
With Carolina, he saw Donald go for 4 total tackles, 2 sacks and 2 QB hits, though the Panthers won 13-10 in 2016.
With Buffalo, he coached against Donald twice. In the first game in 2020, Donald’s performance of 6 total tackles, two sacks, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery was highlighted by recovering his own forced fumble on a strip-sack on Bills quarterback Josh Allen, though the Bills won 35-32.
In the second game in 2022, Donald had two total tackles and one sack.
“He’s a former wrestler, that’s what I love about him. Going against him, I hated going against him, because he can wreck a gameplan. When you watch (him), I mean that’s what an elite 3-technique does, is he makes you gameplan for him. He makes those around him better, because when the protection’s going to him, other guys are being productive. And so what a great career. Super proud of him and the way he’s handled himself. And for him to get a ring is special. He capped a heck of a career.”
Texans HC Demeco Ryans
Ryans has an extensive background on defense between his 10-year NFL career playing linebacker and his sixth seasons on the 49ers’ staff, and that tenure in San Francisco gave him a twice-a-year look at Donald.
So while he didn’t necessarily have to gameplan for him as a coach – obviously he was focused on Los Angeles’ offense with San Francisco, and Houston didn’t play L.A. in his first season as head coach – he still has a great appreciation for what Donald did for interior defensive lineman, particularly once who may be viewed as undersized.
“With Aaron retiring, we’re losing a great one. He’s truly one game who changed the game, when you talk about the defensive tackle perspective and getting pressure on the interior, quick pressure, Aaron Donald, he set the trend. I think he also set to trend for more smaller, athletic defensive tackles being selected in the draft. Where he was selected, there was a lot of doubt and uncertainty about it, but he proved a lot of people wrong. He was dominant for every year that he played in the league. He was a dominant player.
“You talk about having to slide protection to him, having to always account for where he lined up. When you’re game planning an interior defensive tackle, you know he’s a great player. So congrats to Aaron on awesome career. Always loved watching him, always loved the intensity in which he played with. He played the game the right way, and he deserves all the accolades he received.”
Chiefs HC Andy Reid
The head coach of the defending Super Bowl champions called back to one of the highest-scoring games in NFL history – the Rams’ 54-51 win over the Chiefs at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum in 2018 – a game in which Donald was a force with 4 total tackles, 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles.
The first forced fumble – a strip-sack on Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes – led to an 11-yard scoop-and-score by linebacker Samson Ebukam. The second – also a strip-sack – set up a touchdown-scoring drive by the Rams offense.
“That fifty-whatever to fifty game we had in L.A., he was a disruptor. We had a nice plan for him, and he dismantled that plan (laughs). So he’s a heck of a player. Great kid, too. Like the person.”
Falcons HC Raheem Morris (Rams DC 2021-2023)
A longtime NFL coach hired as the Falcons’ head coach earlier this offseason, Morris has a unique perspective having coaching against and with Donald throughout his career. Of course, that tenure coaching with him was highlighted by two core memories: Seeing Donald win the Super Bowl in 2021, and watching him bring along and have fun with young teammates in 2023.
“Coaching against him was a hot mess, because no matter what you planned, it really didn’t matter, because he was the X-Factor. He was going to beat whatever you thought, or whatever the case could be. He was going to figure out a way to make that play happen. And then coaching with him, you just marvel at the amount of things that he could do. Whether it was watching the outside was from the inside. Actually got a chance to see him rush some off the ball, which you pointed out, but there was nothing he couldn’t do and have fun.
“And I love the fact of watching him go from winning the Super Bowl, the reason you came here with all the pressure going all in, and then I watched him get with a young team and absolutely develop people and make them better. And I don’t think you get better perspective from watching the guy and his greatness in the three years that I did.”
znModeratorBlaine Grisak @bgrisakTSTI’m not necessarily concerned about White having another injury after signing with the Rams. More concerned about what his ceiling is. Likely not a top-5 CB like he was. After ACL and Achilles, two very significant injuries, what does that look like?
znModeratorThis was the game I rewatched last night on all 22 and thought to myself if the #Rams get this Tre White they are golden. pic.twitter.com/ZKh6CDS9kF
— JAKE ELLENBOGEN (@JKBOGEN) March 27, 2024
znModeratorjust saw the rams signed tre’davious white? boom or bust signing.
from https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/3/26/24113151/rams-tredavious-white-a-risk
The Rams signed former All-Pro cornerback Tre’Davious White for $8.5 million. Was this a good move? We will find out in time but here’s what we know. White has been an elite corner in his past, isn’t 30 years old yet but has suffered two of the most catastrophic injuries you can have as an athlete. White tore his ACL in 2021 and last year tore his achilles tendon. It’s safe to say that the risk is fairly evident in this signing.
znModeratorListen to Lynne Roberts talk about the "racial hate crimes" her Utah women's basketball team was exposed to at the NCAA Tournament, that forced them to switch hotels in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. pic.twitter.com/ZMtJLa35yf
— Dana Greene (@dana_greene) March 26, 2024
znModeratorHoward Balzer@HBalzer721Important rule change not talked about a lot is that a practice-squad QB can now be elevated for games as the emergency QB along with the two standard elevations. There is no limit on the number of times the QB can be elevated.
znModeratorShocking footage reveals the start of the incident in Baltimore Harbor where 20 people are now missing. Our hearts are with Baltimore, Maryland. #BreakingNews pic.twitter.com/vgyyou1HZB
— Ace (@ThatUchihaGuy) March 26, 2024
🚨BREAKING: Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland COLLAPSES after being struck by a Singaporean Cargo Ship
The incident happened at the Francis Scott Key Bridge, where 2 people were rescued, and 7 still remain missing.
pic.twitter.com/xB7Pdvms0N— Salt Flash (@SaltFlash) March 26, 2024
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Ace@ThatUchihaGuyUPDATE: Initial reports of 20 missing revised to 7 after cargo ship collision in Baltimore. The Singapore flagged container ship, Dali, lost power and struck the Francis Scott Key Bridge. Two people rescued; one uninjured, one in “very serious condition” in hospital.
znModeratorRodrigue, from: https://theathletic.com/5370135/2024/03/26/sean-mcvay-aaron-donald-retirement/
A common phrase around the Rams’ buildings right now: There is no replacing Donald. But the team is now in a position where they’ll have to at least build a new world for a defensive line that features two up-and-coming second-year players who started in 2023 — Turner, and outside linebacker Byron Young — and a lot of unknowns.
As things currently stand — and pending the draft at the end of April — Turner will move full-time to the three-technique. That means more pass-rushing opportunities. Turner finished 2023 with nine sacks and was a candidate for Defensive Rookie of the Year. Young had nine sacks.
The Rams also tendered Michael Hoecht, who started the entirety of 2023 — he signed the tender on Tuesday, according to VP of football administration Tony Pastoors — but there is a strong indication from the team that they are far from done with adding to the position room. All last season, a lack of consistent complementary pressure was evident.
“From a stability standpoint, we have two players who have played a lot of snaps for us at OLB, but we’ve always said we want to add partners for them to have a more disruptive arsenal compared to last year,” Snead said on Monday.
How aggressive will McVay and Snead be at finding more players who can improve their pass-rush?
“That is such an important part — you get better on the second and third levels of your defense by being able to affect and influence the pass game with the guys that are rushing,” said McVay.
“There’s different ways to apply pressure. It might be through (a) four-man rush. It might be through simulated pressure. Bringing five (rushers). Those are the things that we are in the midst of really figuring out. I think I’ll have better clarity once we get through the draft. You don’t want to just say, ‘OK, we lost Aaron Donald. So now, we’ve got to go address this position.’ You want to be able to still continue to find the right kinds of people that can influence and affect positive change for us in the rush, whether that’s from the edge, from the interior. … There’s a bunch of quality players in this draft. Exactly who we come away with and how many we come away with that can do that is something we’re still working through.”
znModeratorfrom: https://www.therams.com/news/top-takeaways-sean-mcvay-press-conference-nfl-annual-meeting-tyler-higbee-update-free-agency-offensive-line-jonah-jackson-steve-avila
What’s next for pass rush following Aaron Donald’s retirement
There’s no question that, between the way teams slid protections his direction and the double- and triple-teams he commanded, Aaron Donald was a focal point of the Rams’ pass rush.Now that he’s retired, where does L.A. go from here when it comes to building that plan?
McVay said they would have a better idea after the draft.
“I think I’ll have a better clarity once we get through the draft, because you don’t want to just say, okay, we lost Aaron Donald, so now we’ve got to go address this position,” McVay said. “You want to be able to still continue to find the right kinds of people that it can influence and affect positive change for us. And the rush, whether that’s from the edge, from the interior parts, there’s a bunch of different ways to influence and affect the quarterback. There’s a bunch of quality players in this draft, and exactly who we come away with and how many we come away with that can do that, is something that we’re still working through.”
znModeratorIdentifying Jonah Jackson and sliding Steve Avila to center
McVay on Monday confirmed Steve Avila will move from left guard to center after the team signed Jonah Jackson.
According to McVay, each of those moving pieces were late developments in the team’s approach to free agency.
Moving Avila to center “was never really part of the plan, until you realize, ‘wow, Coleman Shelton voided his contract,'” McVay said, referring to Shelton voiding the final year of his deal and becoming a free agent. They wanted to bring Shelton back, but by nature of evaluating the guard market, getting Kevin Dotson‘s deal done ahead of the negotiating period, and realizing there was a possibility they could get Jackson, those plans began to fall into place.
“Hey, Kevin’s at right guard, Jonah played left guard, and oh by the way, this stud rookie left guard that you had, he was an excellent center at TCU,” McVay said. “And when you want to try to be able to improve and push the envelope with the interior parts of the offensive line, it really wasn’t part of the plan until you realize, wow, we might be able to get Jonah Jackson, and if we did that, even went back and started watching – and this all came together last minute – TCU, and you say, you know what, he did a great job at center, there’s a lot of work.”
znModeratorThis is not a hip drop tackle.. pic.twitter.com/oiaCMUBdJ2
— Sheriff Joe Bags (@SheriffJoeBags) March 26, 2024
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Màxkhuwe@MackeyserNo, not a hip drop. That’s a classic wrap up tackle. A hip drop would involve his hip falling on the receiver’s legs/ankles. He was trailing too far to even try a hip drop
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueOne point of news from Sean McVay this morning, with more updates to come@TheAthletic – Tyler Higbee is expected to go on PUP, long recovery for an injury that late in the year.March 26, 2024 at 5:45 pm in reply to: “the draft” thread … ie. not “the Rams draft” thread … #150104
znModeratorIs this the greatest run of picks in the history of the NFL Draft?
12 Pro Bowlers in a 13 pick span, including 9 straight. Probably 4 eventual Hall of Famers. pic.twitter.com/57V27LHcEK
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) March 26, 2024
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueA couple notes from Tony Pastoors with more coming @TheAthletic. Aaron Donald’s option was not exercised (this is different from restructure to bonus). A “fake year” in 2026 was prorated back into 2024. Donald’s cap number will be for approximately $24M, $9M in 2025..Jimmy G’s cap number is appx. $2.85/$2.9M. It has a lot of play time, starts, snaps, wins and playoffs incentives. Not restructuring big contracts now gives Rams levers to pull if space is needed ahead of the trade deadline. Michael Hoecht signed his tender.
znModeratorSarah Barshop@sarahbarshop
Rams GM Les Snead said the plan is for Ernest Jones to play the 2024 season on the final year of his rookie deal instead of signing him to a contract extension. “We prioritized spending our resources on additions rather than re-signing from within,” Snead said.
[me: to clarify]
Gary Klein@LATimeskleinIn re to Ernest Jones, Snead said it was probable Rams would have him play fourth season before possible extension.
znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTWith the Kam Curl contract, the Rams have about $13.5M in effective cap space. Again, that effective cap space number accounts for the rookie class. Just need Jimmy G’s official contract numbers. Should put Rams around $10M which is where they like to be.
znModeratori don’t know. at first glance i don’t like this rule. i don’t want players to get hurt, but what are defenses supposed to do now?
It seems to me that the hip-swivel tackle is something that you deliberately do and don’t have to do, and subtracting it doesn’t change the game at all.
znModeratorMike Garafolo@MikeGarafolo
NFL’s Jeff Miller says they saw 230 instances of the swivel hip-drop tackle last season. So roughly once per game. Of those tackles, 15 players missed time due to injury because of the tackle.
Rich McKay: “Do we have a problem? The answer was yes.”
“This will be a hard one to call on the field, you have to see every element of it. We want to make it a rule so we can deal on the discipline during the week.” https://t.co/84Ny0FEq8s
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 25, 2024
znModeratorSarah Barshop@sarahbarshopLes Snead said the Rams were “fans of Carson” Wentz, but at the end of the day, Jimmy Garoppolo’s familiarity with the Rams’ offense and style of play made him a good fit to be the backup quarterback in Los Angeles.
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothers
The QB room now (if Bennett is able to stay on the roster) is so much better than it has been to start the season.2024: Stafford, Garoppolo, Bennett
2023: Stafford, Bennett, Rypien, Wentz*
2022: Stafford, Wolford, Perkins, Mayfield*
2021: Stafford, Wolford*added mid-year
znModeratorcleophas@cleophasnyasimiThe defensive player lifting himself off the ground and using his weight to fall on the offensive player is what they’re working to eliminate..Mike Garafolo@MikeGarafoloNFL’s Jeff Miller says they saw 230 instances of the swivel hip-drop tackle last season. So roughly once per game. Of those tackles, 15 players missed time due to injury because of the tackle.
znModeratorRich McKay making it clear multiple times there’s a difference between a hip-drop tackle and the swivel hip-drop tackle. The defensive player lifting himself off the ground and using his weight to fall on the offensive player is what they’re working to eliminate. https://t.co/gnSmMDwaGn
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 25, 2024
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