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znModeratorJune 10, 2024 at 7:45 pm in reply to: Stafford. You know, that Mark Stafford guy, the quarterback #151162
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znModeratorRodrigue,Ā https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5541454/2024/06/04/rams-otas-matthew-stafford-contract/
I have mostly seen Whittington working with Jimmy G though that is significant considering the makeup of the WR room. BY speed and power so far looks good but nothing is real yet for trench guys. Iād like to see a little more 12P but I am constantly reminded how hybrid and versatile their 11P is and I think sometimes people forget that staying in 11 helps them play faster because they donāt have to sub. But situationally yes would love to see those TEs continue to get a lot of work
znModeratorfrom Rodrigue, https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5541454/2024/06/04/rams-otas-matthew-stafford-contract/
Ā Veteran running back Boston Scott, who was signed by the Rams in late-spring, is already a key contributor on special teams (inclusive to the new kickoff rules), according to coordinator Chase Blackburn.
āHeās done a really nice job,ā Blackburn said. āHe has done both punt return and kick return, awesome to have him here. Great veteran presence. Really taking a leadership role even immediately in the punt team, moving around from wing to person protector to making the calls, going back and forth ⦠then obviously from a dual returner perspective, just a great guy. Great human, awesome teammate and really showing the way right now.ā
znModeratorPaul Dehner Jr.@pauldehnerjrFirst time Zac Taylor has opted for a joint practice with multiple teams during camp. Little more aggressive mindset in prep for regular season, where #Bengals have been habitual slow starters..Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodriguefically to the Bengalsā thoughts but joint practices will be a big time training ground for the new kickoff and teams are smart to schedule multiple partners. Try ideas with actual contact – but without putting them on tape as in preseason games.
znModeratorPittsburgh Steelers@steelersWe have signed Coach Mike Tomlin to a three-year contract extension..Jonathan Jones@jjones9This obviously means Mike Tomlin is out of the running for the Lakers job.The 33rd Team@The33rdTeamFB<time datetime=”2024-06-10T19:41:01.000Z”></time>Steelers have had a top-10 scoring defense š²š¹š²šš²š» šš¶šŗš²š in Mike Tomlinās 17 year-tenureSince Mike Tomlin took over in 2007:Ā No team has accumulated more sacks than the Steelers (767)PIT has allowed the 3rd least amount of total points (5,073)
znModeratorJared Verse was in a small group of prospects coveted by Ramsā scouts and coaches

<p class=”wp-caption-text”>Charles LeClaire-USA TODAY Sports</p>Ā itās abundantly clear how much the Rams coveted Verse. They were elated to see six quarterbacks go in the first 12 picks, which pushed defensive players down the board. And as their draft slot approached at No. 19, the possibility of landing Verse became even more real.
Director of scouting strategy James Gladstone shared some insight into how much the scouts and coaches loved Verse with this tidbit: āWe had three players with 11 selections from our scouting staff and coaching staff combined that received 11 votes. The one remaining is Jared Verse.ā
Needless to say, Verse was the top player left on the Ramsā board and they likely had him ranked much higher than 19th.
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Verse and Brennan Jackson were ranked 1st and 2nd by Rams for physical toughness

<p class=”wp-caption-text”>James Snook-USA TODAY Sports</p>The Rams donāt just rank players based on their overall ability. We learned in the [Behind the Grind episode 2] video that they also categorize them by traits, like physical toughness. And using that, they selected the top two players in terms of physical toughness.
āBrennan Jackson, rankings for physical toughness, guess who heās behind?ā Gladstone asked McVay.
āVerse,ā McVay replied.
āYeah, so you would end up with No. 1 and No. 2 physical toughness.ā
Snead liked Jacksonās game a lot and would not have been happy had they missed out on him in Round 5.
āThatās the one to me that if we lose Washington State, Iāll beā¦ā
āPissed?ā McVay said, finishing Sneadās sentence.
June 10, 2024 at 3:03 pm in reply to: Stafford. You know, that Mark Stafford guy, the quarterback #151155
znModeratorCorum was recently on the āRich Eisen Showā and he was almost speechless when talking about how good Stafford is.
āI havenāt sat down with Stafford and picked his brain, but let me just tell you this: His ball placement, his IQ āĀ phenomenal quarterback,ā Corum said. āItās crazy how he puts the ball where no one else can get it. Itās absolutely ridiculous. Heās great, man.ā
Eisen asked Corum what specifically is so impressive about Stafford and he immediately mentioned his no-look passes.
āThe way he can look this way but throw the ball this way, it blows my mind,ā Corum said. āBut thatās why heās been in the league so long and been great at what he does for so long. Itās exciting being in the backfield with Matthew Stafford.ā
znModeratorif the rams know something the rest of the league doesnāt, iām all for it. i definitely could see all four becoming starters at some point.
I think it’s more a case of “fits” and “knowing what they want” … plus scouting character etc.
I don’t think it’s a case of knowing something the league doesn’t, again it’s just “fits.”
My admittedly very early take on this draft is that it will include more pure starter-quality “hits” and finds than any other Rams draft, going back years.
But some of that is qualified because if, as it now looks, Whittington turns out to be a multi-unit special teams ace (blocking and tackling) plus a tough, reliable 3rd or 4th WR, do we count that as a big “hit”? (I would.)
znModeratorIsaac Bruce breaks down his game winning TD catch from Super Bowl XXXIV
vid link: https://www.therams.com/video/isaac-bruce-breaks-down-game-winning-td-catch-from-super-bowl
June 9, 2024 at 8:09 pm in reply to: Rams off-season assessments & rankings & early previews #151149
znModeratorfrom PFF, 2024 NFL roster rankings:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-roster-rankings-all-32-teams-2024-strengths-weaknesses-x-factors
14.Ā LOS ANGELES RAMS
Biggest strength in 2023: Offensive Balance
The Rams ranked inside the top 10 in every aspect of offensive grading except pass protection last season.Ā Matthew StaffordĀ had a big bounce-back year.Ā Kyren WilliamsĀ proved himself to be a workhorse.Ā Puka NacuaĀ set the rookie receiving record. With an improved offensive line heading into 2024, the Ramsā offense will be dangerous as long as Stafford continues to produce at a high level.
Biggest weakness in 2023: Coverage
Los Angeles ranked dead last in team coverage grade last season (46.2). They were extremely young and did not have a single defensive back finish with at least a 70.0 coverage grade. Theyāve done significant work this offseason to improve their secondary, though, and if that work pays off, they could be a dark-horse NFC contender.
X-factor for 2024: DIĀ Kobie Turner
Aaron Donaldās retirement forcesĀ Kobie Turner into a marquee role on the Ramsā defensive line. Turner finished his rookie season with an excellent 83.2 overall grade and led the team with 9 sacks. Obviously, he wonāt be asked to fill the void left by Donald by himself, but he will need to continue his excellent play to mitigate the loss.
Rookie to watch: EDGEĀ Jared Verse
Another player tasked with replacingĀ Aaron Donaldās production is first-round pickĀ Jared Verse. He had a spectacular two-year run at Florida State and produced a 90.8 pass-rush grade in 2023. Meanwhile, the Ramsā edge group finished 30th in the NFL in overall grade last season. Verse will have every opportunity to star for this defense.
Over/Under 8.5 win total: Over
Aaron DonaldĀ is a huge loss for the Rams, but a team withĀ Matthew Stafford,Ā Kyren Williams,Ā Cooper KuppĀ andĀ Puka NacuaĀ should still have a winning season. Their postseason success will be dictated by their defensive development. As long as Stafford continues to produce, the Rams will at least be in the playoff mix.
znModeratorRams Wire@TheRamsWireJonah Jackson impressed by Steve Avila’s move to center: ‘He’s doing incredible’
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The original plan for Bennett was he’d be a relatively cheap and competent #2 for years to come, and he’d be #2 out of the box. Did they think he could be more? I think they were gonna wait and see on that.
Clearly things are different this year. Reports are McVay has liked Jimmy G. for a while and Jourdan said you can see the difference at practice when the #2 QB knows and executes the offense so they can run all the same stuff.
Though Jimmy G. is suspended for the first two games. At this point you gotta figure Stetson is Stafford’s backup going into the season…
How this all shakes out, we’ll see.
znModeratorDuring an interview with J.B. Long and DāMarco Farr, Jackson said Stafford was the primary reason he picked the Rams.
āIt definitely came down to a few teams but here, obviously, the weather is absolutely incredibly. Every day is beautiful. But, No. 9,ā Jackson said. āI had Matthew my rookie year and I knew what he brought to the table and I knew he could bring us all the way. And from the outside looking in, we had a lot of carryover in Detroit and I got along well with those guys. Greg, Brad (Holmes), Jared (Goff) and they all loved it out here and I figured theyāre my kind of guys.ā
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams@RamsNFL@Kyrenwilliams23Ā is back at workouts
znModeratorKupp
McVay said on Tuesday that Kupp was dealing with more than people realize. He compared it to Matthew Stafford in 2022 when he was playing through various injuries, including an elbow issue that limited him greatly throughout the spring and summer.
āReally, similar to Matthew in ā22 and then Cooper last year, I donāt think anybody really understands the amount of things that both of those guys were working through in each of those years,ā McVay said. āThat gives you an appreciation, and I think both of them an appreciation for how much they love this game and how much more fun it is when youāre feeling good. But you talk about a guy thatās really set the tempo for the way that this offseason has gone. Iām not surprised, but you sure are impressed with just the consistency, the work ethic, the growth mindset, and how that influences and affects the rest of the guys that heās around. This guyās a stud. I love him. Iām really happy to see where heās at right now.ā
znModeratorJune 6, 2024 at 5:21 pm in reply to: Rams off-season assessments & rankings & early previews #151135
znModeratorFrom Ranking the NFL’s head coaches: https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-best-head-coaches-andy-reid-kyle-shanahan-mike-tomlin/
1. Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs
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2. Sean McVay, Los Angeles Rams
Itās so fun that you could ask Sean McVay what he was doing June 5, 2003 and heāll be able to give you a detailed description of the omelet he made for breakfast that morning and what cartoon was on TV while he was making it.
McVay took a different approach to his offense last season and turned the Rams into a run-through-your-face power run team with a lot of play action mixed in. Matthew Stafford still has the ability to sling it, and itāll be fun to see what the offense can do in year two of Puka Nacua and Cooper Kupp as a duo. McVay has already been to two Super Bowls and won one. Can the Rams make another appearance in the biggest game of the year? Whoās to say they canāt?
znModeratorBrian Baldinger@BaldyNFL@RamsNFLĀ these 2 rookies; @JaredVerse1Ā @bradenfiske55Ā are both excellent prospects individually; but in combination they are a lethal duo. Cant wait to watch these 2 on Sundays..
znModeratorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/6/6/24172536/rams-special-teams-53-man-roster-new-kickoff-rule
.Under the new rules, thereās a lot more strategy from both sides and itās more of a football play. Rams special teams coach Chase Blackburn spoke to the media on Tuesday and said,
āItās just such a unique play with its own rules set right now. Still evolving with the play as it evolves…Itās more like an offensive-defensive play, so looking at it from that perspective…All that stuff is completely different and thatās the biggest feeler for everything is what are our drop angles? What are our depths and our limits? And most important thing as always, is that some things donāt change. Itās always about man meet ball. Really thatās what weāre looking for is like developing some basic fundamentals, working through some concepts and some schemes as well as even some install progressions to get into training camp, which is one of the things I think so unique about the offseason and for us to be able to sit out here and once we got to phase three where we could go against each other because really before that youāre doing some drill work but you canāt go against each other. But once you feel it as a whole perspective, it changes you outlook on a little bit. Thereās so many intricacies to the rule. Iām sure some things will still change before itās all said (and done).ā
Due to touchbacks being placed at the 30-yard line rather than the 25, itās very possible that we see more returns and less kicks out of the back of the end zone. With that said, itās going to be important for special teams units to have a plan on not only how to cover the play, but how to block it on the returning side. Blackburn noted on Tuesday that they could look to use some gap scheme type blocking or zone plays that could help get the returner to the second level. This is much more a āfootballā offense-defense play than it has been in the past. Itās a phase of the game that canāy simply be put on the back-burner or it may cost teams game.
This is the approach that the Rams have taken, especially at the returner position throughout the Sean McVay era. Pharaoh Cooper did make a Pro Bowl in 2017 and Brandon Powell also had some success. With that said, thatās not something that theyāll be able to do this year. Itās also a reason why they potentially signed Boston Scott who has both punt and kick returner experience. Blackburn jokingly said that rookie edge Jared Verse wants to be a returner and then continued by saying,
āThereās definitely some variables there. I think the one thing you got to look at is from a returnerās perspective, one of the things that we really tried to identify is guys thatā¦like center fielders that can cover a lot of ground, can read and have a great jump off the bat. Itās no different than than our returners now being able to have like tennis feet where theyāre kind of fluid early in the down and get a good jump as soon as it hits the foot. Instead of a 4.2 second hang, youāre probably going to average around a two second hang time now because itās more advantageous for our kickoff team to get it up and down as fast as possible and not let the returner sit underneath that, camp out and take off… I think, even the guys that say they want have one returner back there, I think thatās an out-of-the box thinking…Youāll see most teams will go with two. Maybe thereāll be a couple guys in the preseason that try one, see what they can get away with blocking scheme wise. But I really truly believe that two returners will be what you see most likely.ā
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More high profile players and skill position players could get more involved in the third-phase of the game. The Rams havenāt typically kept many linebackers on the final 53-man roster anyway. However, with the new rules that might be the case even more. The Rams could keep extra wide receivers or defensive backs instead.
Last season, Ethan Evans was the player that took kickoffs for the Rams. Evans led all kickers with an average distance of 72 yards per attempt and had the fourth-lowest return percentage. While the Rams may not go to the extreme of taking Evans off of kickoff duty, this was something that Blackburn talked about with the media,
āThe way I look at it is, yeah, you donāt want your kicker making a ton of tackles, right? But also, again, if itās short of the 20 or out of bounds, the ballās going 25 yards from the spot of kick. So youāre going the 40-yard line. You donāt want start too many drives like that. And Iād say thereās not too many position players that you could bank on having 80% of the kicks without like a traditionalā¦Because again, if youāre kicking the ball to the 10-yard line and they can get underneath it and run, theyāre going be at the 30-35 before you turn around.ā
June 6, 2024 at 10:15 am in reply to: Stafford. You know, that Mark Stafford guy, the quarterback #151127
znModeratorfromĀ PFF Quarterback Rankings: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-2024-nfl-season
7.Ā MATTHEW STAFFORD,Ā LOS ANGELES RAMS
Something something about fine wines getting better with age. Stafford had a fantastic season at age 35. His 83.8 passing grade in the regular season ranked seventh in the league, while his 32 big-time throws were the fifth most and his 2.1% turnover-worthy play rate placed second behindĀ Prescott.
Stafford has long had one of the best arms in the league, and even if that total arm talent is going down slightly, heās making up for it with wisdom, creativity and craftiness.
znModeratorDuring the latest episode of āBehind The Grind,ā director of scouting strategy James Gladstone told Les Snead and Sean McVay that the Rams landed four of the top 50 players on their board by drafting Jared Verse, Braden Fiske, Blake Corum and Kamren Kinchens in the first three rounds.
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znModeratorRams rookie Blake Corum hits the ground running during offseason workouts
By Gary Klein
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2024-06-04/rams-rookie-blake-corum-hits-the-ground-running
He was a two-time All-American at Michigan and the offensive most valuable player in the Wolverinesā national championship game victory over Washington.
So running back Blake Corum had pedigree when the Rams selected him in the third round of the NFL draft.
Yet Corum has gone through the Ramsā offseason program with an attitude that tilted more neophyte than seasoned performer.
āYou just have to go in with a humble heart, and the mindset of, āI donāt know anything,āā Corum said Tuesday after practice, adding, āIām going to grow from the good I do and whatever bad I do. ⦠Iām never going to stop growing ā so it was easy for me to come in and basically start over.ā
The Rams selected the 5-foot-8, 210-pound Corum to complement third-year pro Kyren Williams, who made the Pro Bowl last season after rushing for 1,144 yards and scoring 15 touchdowns for a team that finished 10-7 and made the playoffs.
With Williams sidelined for voluntary offseason workouts because of a foot injury, Corum is taking advantage of increased reps as he learns the offense.
āIāve seen a very mature rookie,ā coach Sean McVay said, adding, āI love his mental makeup, love the way he handles himself as a person and how locked in and focused he is.ā
Corum is part of a position group that includes Williams, Ronnie Rivers, second-year pro Zach Evans and recently signed veteran Boston Scott. Each has displayed talent and growth ā in the meeting room and on the field ā during the offseason program, running backs coach Ron Gould said.
Upon Corumās arrival in Thousand Oaks, Gould sat down with the rookie and urged him not to be too hard on himself if he committed mistakes. The worst thing Corum could do, Gould said, was put pressure on himself.
āHe hasnāt done that up to this point,ā Gould said. āHeās taken everything in stride. Heās a learner, and I see him growing every single day.ā
Corum used a tough running style to rush for 3,737 yards and 58 touchdowns during four seasons at Michigan.
After selecting Florida State edge rusher Jared Verse in the first round of the draft, and trading up to pick Seminoles defensive tackle Braden Fiske in the second, the Rams chose Corum with the 83rd pick.
āI went into the draft just planning on going on Day 2,ā Corum said. āI didnāt know if it would be the second or third [round] for me ā I just wanted to go to the right situation.
āWhen I got the call from the Rams I was like, āYou know what? This is the right situation.āā
McVay, Gould, offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur and the other running backs have eased his transition to the pros, Corum said.
āI thought I had a great family at Michigan,ā Corum said. āWe built a great culture there, and I didnāt know what to expect coming to the NFL where it is a business now. But it feels like family.ā
After the Rams conclude workouts next week, Corum said he would leave Southern California briefly to conduct football camps in Michigan and home-state Virginia. He will return quickly to prepare for training camp, which begins in late July.
āMaybe go down to Malibu, check out a beach or two,ā he said. āBut other than that, Iām going to be spacing my time wisely, taking care of my body, training every day to make sure Iām in shape for camp and staying in the playbook.ā
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znModerator[Byron] Young was asked to name a teammate whoās stood out in OTAs thus far and he immediately went to Verse.
āIām going to start with Jared Verse. No lie, if youāve been here so far, heās just handling it like a pro,ā Young said. āHis get-off is insane, rushing the passer, every day just showing up, listening, being accountable. Me being a vet and him being younger, heās listening. Heās just a guy that wants to learn. Every day I talk to him and thatās what I love about him. Heās a guy thatās hungry. Heās definitely hungry.ā
Verse might only be a rookie, but heās making his voice known in practice. Young says Verse is vocal on the field, which provides some extra juice for the defense āĀ something he loves to see from the first-year edge rusher.
āI love it. I was telling coach about that the other day. He definitely brings the dog out of me,ā Young said. āHis aggression, his love for the game. Every day he comes out there, youāre going to hear him and thatās what we need. We need that spark, man. Itāll be some days, I feel like weāre starting slow but you will hear him and he will spark up the team. when they drafted him, I already knew he was like that, so I was just happy. I was like, Iāve got to come out of my shell more so heās definitely going to have me do that.ā
Young and Verse are projected to be the starting outside linebackers for the Rams this season, with Michael Hoecht also in the mix. Young and Verse bring an abundance of speed and power on the outside, especially with Young bulking up and adding 10 pounds of muscle to his frame this offseason.
znModeratorCJ Stroud Talk About Matthew StaffordĀ
Ā C.J. Stroud thinks incredibly highly of the Rams quarterback and defended his greatness while on the āMillion Dollaz Worth of Gameā podcast recently. Stroud spoke emphatically about how good Stafford is, even saying at first that he might put him up there with Tom Brady āand themā before walking back that statement.
āStafford, heās another one. He might be up there with Brady and them,ā Stroud said. āNo, thatās crazy. Thatās crazy. Let me go back. Iām a student of the game. Staffordās a dog. Heās a dog. You donāt understand. Youāre saying that. Thatās all I watch. I donāt watch nobody else. I watch Mahomes at times because Mahomes does some stuff that you canāt coach. Stafford, dog. He will beat you with the same thing every time. All that no-look stuff, I got that from (him). Thatās one of my biggest ā like, Iām a fan of his.ā
āIf you gave Matthew Stafford a chance like Aaron Rodgers had, I guarantee he mightāve had more rings, for sure. Iād say heād have three, four. Heās tough as nails, bro.ā
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znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
We asked ST coordinator Chase Blackburn a lot of questions about the new kickoff today, the full back-and-forth w/ reporters of which I am sure will be posted by team channels. But some interesting highlights from my perspective –
– Blackburn said he explained to players at thecore as, “it’s like freeze tag … you’re frozen until the ball is touched or hits the ground.”
– They will kick off with a kicker, because they want ball placement and precision.
– They will utilize offensive and defensive concepts in this phase akin to run schemes …… gap, zone, trap and toss cracks…players have been brainstorming w/ him.
– Kicker will be asked to use a bunch of different clubs in the bag…spinning ball differently, chipping, dropping, etc. depending on play designs they are still working through. So again Blackburnprefers a kicker doing this.
– Non-contact rules in OTAs will mean much of this will actually be learned in training camp/preseason. Why joint practices will be so valuable in this phase. They won’t want to show everything but still need to work it out with at least some contact.– It’s not like Blackburn wants Karty to be out there tackling. But, he added, if it’s kicked short of the 20 or OOB, the ball goes 25 yards from the spot of the kick. “You don’t want to start too many drives like that … not too many position players that you could bank on
having 80% of the kicks … I get the premise, there may be one or two somewhere in the league that try it. But also, once the kicker kicks the ball he can’t cross the 50 anyway until the ball touches the ground or is caught. So it’s not like he’s getting down there and being
in phase with the kickoff unit. He’s gonna be 20, 25 yards behind the ball even at that point. … I think the risk/reward of putting a guy out there that can’t put the ball consistently inside the 20 or even hit a TB if that’s the goal.”
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