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  • in reply to: Rams to LA thread for 11/10 #12378
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    zn wrote:

    Zooey wrote:

    @JoeStrauss
    I think in February, the Rams are going to file an application to move. Now, that’s to say they’re going to actually move.

    STLRamsforever

    NFL is not happy with the way SK is conducting business and Rams relocation is NOT on the NFLs agenda. Other owners besides Chargers are not warm to SK moving.

    crewe

    CM just reported on ESPN. Looks like Stan wouldn’t have votes even if he did try to move.

    These reports are BS.

    Okay. But how so?

    What can Stan possibly be doing to irritate the NFL?

    A lot, apparently. He’s pushing and ignoring various rules. He’s trying to act like an exception to rules they all agreed to.

    Now the reports that he has issues with other owners are much more widespread.

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    I don’t even know what to say about this. He played for Pittsburgh, and he complains about safeties going for the hit. Actually btw I am not sure McCleod had a play on the ball.

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    Bernie: Rams are confusing off and on the field

    Bernie Miklasz

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-rams-are-confusing-off-and-on-the-field/article_960a4120-99cb-5d65-8445-1a6493e7650d.html

    SAN DIEGO • I submit a proposal to make the competition a little more interesting: the winner of Sunday’s game between the Rams and Chargers gets to move its franchise to Los Angeles.

    If the Chargers prevail, the Spanos family that owns the team gets to block Rams owner Stan Kroenke from relocating to Southern California. If the Rams emerge triumphant, then the Spanos clan will drop their resistance and let Kroenke’s moving vans cruise on through to that plot of land near Hollywood Park.

    What’s that, dear reader?

    You don’t like the idea? OK, fine.

    You’re about as much fun as Kroenke.

    I brought it up only because Team Spanos and Team Kroenke are looking for new stadiums. The Chargers strongly prefer theirs to be built in San Diego, but that city has declined to order the construction cranes.

    Kroenke wants … well, we don’t know what Silent Stan wants, exactly.

    (Except for more money, of course.)

    Based on the rumors du jour, Kroenke might want a new stadium in St. Louis, he might want a stadium in Los Angeles, he might want to buy the Denver Broncos or he may sell 50 percent of the Rams to LA-based investors to evade the NFL’s cross-ownership rules.

    He could always invade London. The crazy-looking dude who owns the Oakland Raiders has been flirting with San Antonio, so maybe Kroenke will see if there’s any gold to be mined in the Texas hill country.

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    7 to watch: Rams at Chargers

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/to-watch-rams-at-chargers/article_a62ec144-0ab6-5100-aa28-be1239ac884e.html

    RIVERS BATTLES RIB AILMENT

    If you’re San Diego QB Philip Rivers, this probably isn’t the best time to be facing a Rams pass rush that has been breathing fire recently. After the Chargers’ 13-6 victory last weekend over Oakland, TE Antonio Gates said Rivers had been dealing with a “very severe” rib injury for the last three or four weeks. Rivers was in visible pain after taking hits during that game, and on more than one occasion was checked out by the Chargers’ medical staff on the sidelines. For the first time since the 2007 AFC title game, Rivers showed up on the San Diego injury report this week with a “chest” injury. He had full participation in practice all week, but as a formality was listed as probable on Friday. But this is one tough QB. He has made 138 consecutive starts, second only to Eli Manning of the New York Giants among active NFL passers. Manning’s streak is at 161.

    IN A RUT

    Maybe it’s related to those sore ribs, and the absence of injured RB Ryan Mathews didn’t help either. But the Chargers’ offense has been stuck in neutral for the past month. Mentioned as an MVP candidate during San Diego’s 5-1 start, Rivers’ passer rating has been only 76.0 over the past four contests — according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. Three of those games were losses. The Chargers have averaged only 13.5 points and 259 yards per game in that span.

    GATES STILL OPEN

    Although his statistics (38 catches, 477 yards) are down a bit from last year, at age 34 Gates hasn’t forgotten how to reach the end zone. He has nine touchdown catches this season, already his high total since 2010. He’s four TDs away from becoming the ninth player in NFL history with 100 TDs. “Antonio’s really good at feeling zone defenses in the red zone,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “He can get to seams and to holes. He’s got really strong hands if the ball’s there.”

    THE OTHER GUYS

    Rivers has lots of options in the passing game. Second-year pro Keenan Allen, who paid a pre-draft visit to the Rams in 2013, is averaging only 9.8 yards per catch this season — down 5 yards from his 14.7 average as a rookie. But he’s a good route runner who gets in and out of breaks quickly on a long frame (6 feet 2, 211 pounds). Nine-year pro Malcom Floyd never has had 1,000 yards or more than 56 catches in a season, but this big target (6-5, 225) is a big-play threat.

    RYAN’S RETURN

    After missing seven games because of a right knee injury, Mathews brought some much-needed spark to the Chargers’ running game with 70 yards in 16 carries last week against Oakland. After gaining no more than 69 yards rushing as a team in any of their three previous games, the Chargers piled up 120 vs. the Raiders. Mathews (6-0, 220) combines inside power with outside speed in a running attack that shows a lot of draw plays and zone runs on film.

    INTERIOR OPPORTUNITIES?

    Center Rich Ohrnberger hasn’t been able to finish the Chargers’ past two games because of injuries, and he began the week in a protective boot because of an ankle injury. After not practicing all week he’s listed as questionable. If Ohrnberger can’t go, the Chargers could be starting their fourth center of the season in rookie Chris Watt, a guard by trade. Aaron Donald, that’s your cue. Donald has 13 tackles for loss this season, along with four sacks.

    PRESSURE DEFENSE

    The San Diego defense doesn’t have a ton of sacks (17) and no one on the squad has more than 2½. Slowed by a knee issue earlier in the season, former Indy star Dwight Freeney has only two sacks and hasn’t been much of a factor lately. But under defensive coordinator John Pagano, the Chargers do bring a lot of blitzes and present them in a lot of different packages. “There’s some similarities with what Arizona does,” Rams offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer said.

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    Twice as many kids are killed by guns than by cancer — and, according to recent federal health data, the number of children dying from gun violence continues to rise.

    http://publichealthwatch.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/one-year-after-sandy-hook-american-academy-of-pediatrics-urges-lawmakers-to-pass-federal-gun-policies-to-protect-children/

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    The pic wasn’t copyable directly from their site but here it is from off the net:

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    in reply to: what will they do about qb this off-season? #12356
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    I learned this through the dark and arcane art of “looking it up”.

    This “looking it up” you speak of…do all of your people possess such lore?

    Some. Not all.

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    in reply to: some RAMS vs Chargers preview articles & vids…. #12348
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    Rams-Chargers: Matchup breakdown

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/13928/rams-chargers-matchup-breakdown

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — A look at three individual matchups to keep an eye on when the St. Louis Rams and San Diego Chargers meet at 4:04 p.m. ET Sunday.

    Rams defensive end Robert Quinn vs. Chargers left tackle King Dunlap

    Quinn got a week off from appearing here last week because there were more pressing matchups and because I promised to put him in this space every week. But Quinn’s presence here is certainly relevant this time around. Dunlap is probably the best of a questionable lot on San Diego’s offensive line but with so many other spots along the line struggling, it could force San Diego into leaving Quinn and Dunlap matched up one-on-one on the outside.

    Quinn didn’t have any sacks last week, ending a small surge he had in the weeks before it. He still might have been as disruptive as he’s been all year against Denver. The Broncos decided to let Ryan Clady take on Quinn on an island and Quinn beat him repeatedly. Only a number of penalties that weren’t called allowed Clady to keep Peyton Manning upright. Dunlap isn’t a bad player but he’s not in Clady’s class and if the Chargers can’t provide help for him, it could be a long day for a hurting Philip Rivers.

    Rams safety T.J. McDonald vs. Chargers tight end Antonio Gates

    The Rams have used McDonald in coverage much more over the past three weeks and he’s been better than expected as he continues to grow in his second season. Yes, McDonald is still at his best attacking near the line of scrimmage but in the past three games, he’s been targeted 12 times and allowed eight completions for just 38 yards with two passes defended. McDonald might give up a completion here or there but he’s often right there to deliver a hit soon after the catch is made.

    McDonald won’t cover Gates exclusively as the Rams can also turn to linebacker Alec Ogletree and various other looks to help keep Gates in check but he’ll get his chances. Having covered Vernon Davis and Julius Thomas in recent weeks, though, McDonald is more prepared now to handle another difficult challenge than he might have been before. Make no mistake, Gates is still productive and a dynamic red zone threat with nine touchdowns catches on the season. With Rivers struggling, it’s likely he’ll lean on his most reliable target to get the offense going.

    Rams tight end Jared Cook vs. Chargers safety Eric Weddle

    Weddle is one of the best safeties in football and probably one of its most underrated players regardless of position. The Chargers use him in a variety of ways but teams generally avoid throwing his way. According to Pro Football Focus, teams have targeted Weddle just 23 times in 10 games. The results include 15 completions for 124 yards with no touchdowns, an interception and three pass breakups. That calculates to a passer rating of 60.8.

    Cook battled a back injury in practice during the week but he’s a valuable cog in what the Rams want to do. After Kenny Britt’s big week last week, don’t be surprised to see him get more attention from San Diego. That should theoretically open up opportunities for others, including Cook. But the Chargers will likely lean on Weddle to keep the middle of the field quiet.

    in reply to: how do you take the season? #12346
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    I just take the season one game at a time. You can’t live in the past, and you can’t worry about the future. Just give 110% each and every week and leave it all out on the sofa.

    Yes but our problems with you stem pretty much from your notorious off-the-coach scandals.

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    Rams OT Joe Barksdale on the challenge the team faces on the road vs the San Diego Chargers, and how the upset over the Broncos helps the team’s mentality

    in reply to: what will they do about qb this off-season? #12341
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    Yeah, I remember seeing a tweet or something that said Gilbert had been released. I’m not sure exactly when but it wasn’t that long ago.

    Yes it is as you and TD say. He was released Oct 30th. I learned this through the dark and arcane art of “looking it up.”

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    Rams waive former SMU quarterback Garrett Gilbert
    October 30, 2014
    http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/rams-waive-former-smu-quarterback-garrett-gilbert.html/

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    http://www.stlouisrams.com/team/roster.html

    Practice Squad
    # Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College
    66 Baker, Steven T 6-8 310 25 1 East Carolina
    16 Blake, Emory WR 6-0 192 23 1 Auburn
    60 Bond, Travis OG 6-6 329 23 1 North Carolina
    37 Bryant, Christian S 5-9 198 22 R Ohio State
    71 Conrath, Matt DT 6-7 306 25 3 Virginia
    48 Cunningham, Justice TE 6-3 258 23 1 South Carolina
    17 Keenum, Case QB 6-1 205 26 2 Houston
    47 Smelley, Brad TE 6-2 235 25 1 Alabama
    35 Thomas, Jemea DB 5-10 195 24 0 Georgia Tech
    19 Wylie, Devon WR 5-9 187 26 2 Fresno State

    in reply to: How many more Wins? #12338
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    With Hill, and the defense playing well, and Mason emerging, IMO they could win anywhere from 3-6 more games.

    UNLESS there’s some secret meltdown recipe for Hill we don’t know about.

    But I kinda doubt that.

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    This whole RG3 thing is just turning bizarre. Recently, the coach went over the entire thing in public, and to me that was just so strange. A coach using a public forum to air out the issues with his qb. Yikes.

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    All of this right now is opinion, and oddly s….that even includes my stuff on it.

    I am just going to ramble on here a bit. Don’t mind me. s

    To me it seem pretty evident that they will try to re-structure Bradford and bring him back. But they won’t stand around counting the unhatched chickens in that basket. Re-structuring, btw, doesn’t necessarily mean a raw pay cut. They could extend him over a short duration (2 years?), reduce the 2015 cap hit, and then load the future contract with incentive laden clauses, and also do things like put a lot of it in a roster bonus (for those who don’t speak cap, you can cut a player before a roster bonus is due, in which case he doesn’t get the money).

    So, that’s Bradford.

    Will they draft someone? Sure, and with any luck, not a high first rounder.

    Why not? Well…they ain’t doin so well recently, which to me means that the new CBA lifted a lot of risk off of taking a 1st round qb, and THAT, in turn, meant that they got even MORE over-valued.

    Look at the qbs draft at pick 16 or higher from 2011-2013. How are they doing. Luck is doing well. Tannenhill is fine. How is Griffen doing? How is Newton doing? How is Locker doing? How is Manuel doing? Gabbert? Ponder? Of those, right now, Newton would probably be doing better if he had a line, some weapons, a running game, and a defense. So we count him. That’s 3 of 8.

    The problem with a high #1 pick is that you are more or less obligated to start him and stick with him, and that obviously would not be the best scenario. Better to just add a guy and make him sit for a while. And since the high #1s are not doing as well these days anyway, why not. In fact look at the 2nd and 3rd round qbs across the same period: 8 were taken, and of those, 4 are anywhere from pretty good to good starters — Wilson, Kaepernick, Dalton, Foles. That’s 3 from the 1st rounders and 4 from the 2nd/3rd rounders.

    Okay so they will draft a guy.

    They could bring back Hill. 34 is not that “old” if they also draft a guy.

    They could do all of that and ALSO bring back Davis. See if he can work on his game. Personally I doubt that he can improve, to me he is a back-up. The things that are wrong with his game, to me, are all innate and unfixable. He does not have innate composure under pressure. That’s just not him. He will always have games like Arizona. That’s just how I see it.

    You know looking back on that, that’s not so bad. Hill, Bradford, a draft pick, maybe Davis or who knows who else. If this defense keeps getting better, that could be all they need.

    I am not a “they need Luck/ Manning/ Rodgers” kinda guy. I would rather my team has the defense that can beat those guys.

    Okay, everything I said is solid, true, and based on a deep and powerful insight into the future. But, for the sake of conversational harmony, I will also pretend add that of course it’s also just another opinion. s

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    from off the net–a different take

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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

    If the rams run the table to end up 10-6 it would be possible to make the playoffs. I ran through it and san fran ended up 10-6 but rams have the tie breaker, seattle ended up 8-8, the biggest obstacle is dallas they have to end up at 9-7 for the rams to make it.

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    from my brain cells

    If they do all that cool, but I am not going to get all invested in the idea. If nothing else that scenario includes beating Seattle in Seattle, and while I really want to see that, this might not be the year.

    This is a strange season anyway. To me, lots and lots to build on.

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    5 Keys to beating the Rams

    http://boltblitz.com/?cat=10

    After defeating the division rival Raiders in a game that was far too close for comfort, the Chargers now face the St. Louis Rams in what is pretty much another must-win game. Despite an early season five-game winning streak, the fact that the Bolts lost three in a row prior to beating Oakland makes this another game that must end with a victory.

    Although the Rams come to San Diego with a 4-6 record, they have beaten some of the toughest teams in the NFL in San Francisco, Seattle and Denver. St. Louis held the Denver offense to its lowest score since the days of Tim Tebow.

    That was not a typo.

    There are so many factors that go into walking away from an NFL game with a much-needed win. I’ll highlight my five keys to achieving victory for your Chargers listed below.

    1. Protect Philip Rivers

    I find it hard to believe that Antonio Gates’ comments about Philip’s supposed rib injury were “taken out of context.” That being said, El Capitan is fine and he will not be missing any time. He may be the toughest player in the entire league. Yup, I said it. Keeping Rivers clean and upright is crucial to the success of the Chargers. Lose Rivers and you can certainly kiss the season goodbye. The Rams defensive front-seven is stout when rushing the passer. They have pass rushers that will prove to be a handful and they must be accounted for at all times. If Philip walks away from this game without grass stains all over his jersey, there’s a very good chance that San Diego will be celebrating a win.

    2. Get pressure on Shaun Hill

    Shaun Hill recently took over for Austin Davis as the starting quarterback in St. Louis. Now playing with his fourth team in 13 NFL seasons, he is a seasoned-vet that knows the ins and outs of the league. He will never be confused for being mobile, but he is a bit savvy when it comes to maneuvering in the pocket. But make no bones about it, he can be rattled. Pressure from multiple areas, and a concerted effort to keep him guessing on where the rush is coming from, is paramount in disrupting his rhythm and making him nervous after coming out from under center. The Chargers must force Hill to make mistakes. The best way to do that is to continuously breathe down his neck and make him throw while on the move.

    3. Establish the running game on offense

    The return of Ryan Mathews was big for the Charger offense and the running game last week. His ability to wear out the Oakland defense legitimized the importance of his return late in the game even when Ryan was not on the field. Having the threat of Mathews in the game changes what the Bolts can do on offense. The offensive line is not only responsible for keeping Philip Rivers safe, they must also open holes and provide the San Diego backs with room to run. Establishing the run game only helps the passing game and the offense as a whole. Frank Reich, along with Mike McCoy, must devise a plan that incorporates the running game and accentuates the strengths of the big dogs upfront. I am interested to see how that plays out.

    4. John Pagano must be aggressive in defensive playcalling

    At this point in the season, this is not the time to revert to the soft-shell cover 2 or soft-shell cover 3 pass coverage — where the secondary is playing 8-12 yards off of the line of scrimmage — that we have seen at times under Pagano. With the linebacking corps returning to health, let’s see them pin their ears back and frustrate the opposing team’s quarterbacks. I want stunts via the defensive line. I want to see a corner blitz from either the nickel or outside spots. Get exotic and confuse Hill on Sunday, and going forward. Just because he has been in the league for a long time does not mean that he can handle an immense amount of disguised pressure and blitz combinations. Pagano was masterful last week, and we’d all like to see that happen again in week 12.

    5. Wrap up and take good angles on defense when tackling

    This boils down to the basic fundamentals of defensive football. See the play, get to the corresponding spot in where there is help or someone coming up in support, wrap up and drive through the ball carrier. At times when watching the NFL, it gets frustrating when watching the game. These are the best athletes in all of the world, in my opinion. But when it comes to fundamentals of the game of football, it seems as though a lot of that was never taught to them in their younger years during Pop Warner ball. It is no secret that tackling, or the lack thereof, has been a major challenge for the San Diego defense. There are many athletic defenders on this team. It is up to them and the coaching staff to fix this problem heading down this ever so important stretch of games.

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    The coaches have got to do a better job getting us ready for competition.

    I agree, and they seem to be addressing that.

    Here;s GW from today’s press conference transcripts:

    WILLIAMS: They’re starting to now to be a lot less worried about what we’re doing and they’re spending more time on what the opponents’ doing or what the [opponent’s] concept’s built to do.

    To me, this is circumstantial. You take a young team, particularly with a young secondary. Young players learn new systems more slowly, in general. Plus, now, more than ever before, there’s less time to install things in the off-season. The new CBA saw to that.

    So I get the impression they’ve only been reinforcing this “prepare for the other team “stuff for about a month now. Before that, according to an interview with TJ McDonald, coaches were having extra meetings fixing things in terms of their knowledge of their own system.

    Maybe other coaches coulda done this all more quickly, but I get the impression these old guys were used to the older practice regimen in the off-season, the one the new CBA cut back.

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    NFL.com’s “Playbook” likes the Rams

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook

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    WILLIAMS: They’re starting to now to be a lot less worried about what we’re doing and they’re spending more time on what the opponents’ doing or what the [opponent’s] concept’s built to do.

    And so playing faster.

    It’s like we thought.

    Remember, now more than ever before, there’s less time to install things in the off-season. The new CBA saw to that.

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    Chargers vs. Rams preview

    By Eric D. Williams and Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/8379/chargers-vs-rams-preview

    SAN DIEGO — To remain in the AFC playoff conversation, the San Diego Chargers (6-4) have to keep stacking wins.

    But the Chargers face a tough test with the St. Louis Rams traveling to San Diego for a Sunday afternoon game.

    The Rams (4-6) have a losing record, but manhandled the AFC West-leading Denver Broncos in a 22-7 victory last week. St. Louis plays with relentless effort, led by one of the most aggressive defensive fronts in the NFL.

    In addition to defeating Denver, the Rams have wins over the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks, and the San Francisco 49ers this season.

    A point of emphasis for San Diego will be doing a better job of protecting quarterback Philip Rivers, who is dealing with a chest injury. The Chargers know they have to play their best in order to get a win over the Rams.

    “They have the characteristics of a typical Jeff Fisher team,” Rivers said, referring to the Rams coach. “They’re just tough, hard-nosed and relentless.”

    ESPN NFL Nation Rams reporter Nick Wagoner and Chargers reporter Eric D. Williams preview the game:

    Williams: Nick, Austin Davis completed 63 percent of his passes and had an 85.1 passer rating as a starter. Why did Fisher make the switch back to Shaun Hill? And what’s the difference between the two signal-callers?

    Wagoner: The simple answer is turnovers. More specifically, the kind of costly turnovers that killed the Rams in close games. Davis threw four pick-sixes, with all of those coming in the fourth quarter. He also coughed up a couple of fumbles that were returned for touchdowns. That’s six touchdowns Davis was responsible for. When you’re a team built to win with defense, it’s hard to do that when you give up points without the defense on the field. Hill is more of a steady hand and has a stronger arm to go with his vast experience. The Rams’ defense is starting to come into its own. And with that group rolling, the Rams need a quarterback who can manage the game. As I like to put it, the Rams’ defense is playing well enough to win. They need a quarterback leading the offense, so it plays well enough not to lose.

    Since we’re on the topic of quarterbacks, much is being made of Philip Rivers and this flap with Antonio Gates, and Rivers’ health. What’s your take on Rivers’ status? And if he’s not hurt, then what is the reason he went from an MVP candidate to someone who has struggled in recent weeks?

    Williams: Rivers clarified his injury status this week, saying he suffered a chest injury falling onto the ball during the fourth quarter of Sunday’s game on a sack by Khalil Mack. Rivers said he’s been dealing with general soreness, like all players, this time of year, and clarified that Gates’ comments were an attempt to protect his quarterback from criticism for his uneven play the past four weeks. Inconsistent pass protection and a lack of a running game have been more of a contributing factor to Rivers’ struggling performance of late. Since starting the season 5-1, Rivers has completed 63 percent of his passes for 788 yards, with 6 touchdowns and 6 interceptions. He’s been sacked nine times, posting a 76.0 passer rating. The Chargers are 1-3 during that stretch.

    Nick, what did St. Louis do defensively to limit Peyton Manning and the Broncos to just seven points last week?

    Wagoner: It was a combination of things, including some schematics from defensive coordinator Gregg Williams that tricked Manning into a couple of mistakes. And let’s be honest, it didn’t hurt that tight end Julius Thomas and receiver Emmanuel Sanders missed big chunks of the game. But the biggest thing here is this defense is finally playing as well as expected. We all underestimated (myself included) that it would take this group a little while to adapt to the many wrinkles in a Williams defense. For the first part of the season, the Rams played much slower defensively than anticipated. Now, it seems everyone is settled in and playing fast and aggressive. Leading the way is a front four that has been as dominant as people would expect. End Robert Quinn and tackle Aaron Donald are legitimate difference-makers, and they have solid depth beyond them. But they also have a linebacker in Alec Ogletree and safety T.J. McDonald who are legitimately playing at a Pro Bowl level over the past three weeks. That’s not hyperbole, and I can’t believe I’m saying it, but it’s true. The Rams’ defense was expected to be a top-five group this year. It’s finally playing like one.

    Eric, in perusing the stats and the film, it appears the Chargers’ defense has had its struggles both on third down and in the red zone. Is there anything you can put your finger on with their issues in those two key areas, and what should the Rams expect from the San Diego defense right now?

    Williams: You’re correct. The Chargers are No. 29 in third down efficiency (45.4 percent) defensively, and tied for No. 28 in red zone efficiency (66.7 percent). San Diego’s issues in those areas have been a result of poor tackling and a lack of a consistent pass rush. But with the return of edge rushers Melvin Ingram and Jeremiah Attaochu, along with inside linebacker Manti Te’o, the Chargers were much better against Oakland, holding the Raiders to 3-of-15 on third down and keeping them out of the end zone. Along with the improved athleticism, the Chargers have to play assignment-correct football in those two critical areas for the team’s success on defense to continue.

    Nick, I know you follow the stadium situation closely in St. Louis as well, something we’re also dealing with here in San Diego. What’s the latest in terms of St. Louis working to keep the team there, and do you believe there’s a realistic chance the Rams could be playing in Los Angeles next season?

    Wagoner: It’s the billion dollar question right now, isn’t it? We’ve reached the point where there’s a new rumor every day. It can be difficult to parse through what’s real and what’s not. I try to talk to as many people as I can about this, and to be honest, I really think every option is on the table. I wouldn’t be surprised if they moved, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they stayed. But it’s going to be awfully difficult for them to move in 2015. I’m not convinced the league would allow it, especially with the local leaders in St. Louis working on a resolution. Former Anheuser-Busch president Dave Peacock is working diligently on trying to offer a solution, and he’s not to be taken lightly. He’s well respected in league circles, and the time for negotiations at the kiddie table have long since passed. The big boys will be having the discussions this time around. One other thing that’s not being discussed enough is where the Rams would play if they did go to Los Angeles next year, and I don’t mean a stadium on Sundays. I mean the day-to-day operations and practices. There’s no obvious solution out there, and the longer things play out, the less likely one could be in place before then anyway. I wouldn’t be surprised by either outcome long term, and I would be mildly surprised if the outcome turned into a move in 2015.

    Sticking to that topic, the Chargers seem to be in a unique spot here because of their proximity to Los Angeles and the amount of business they get from that area. What’s the latest from your end, and how likely is it they make the move? Barring that, do you believe they have the support from other owners to try to block a move by another team to protect their interests?

    Williams: The Chargers are in discussions with San Diego mayor Kevin Faulconer to put a proposal together that voters countywide could weigh in on as early as February 2016. But talks remain preliminary, and several of the stakeholders still need to have a say in order to build consensus for the project. Chargers president Dean Spanos remains committed to keeping the team in San Diego, but the family also is keeping its options open, which include possibly relocating to Los Angeles if the team is unable to get a stadium deal done in San Diego. The Chargers are on a year-to-year lease and could opt out of the agreement in February. The Spanos family is keeping a watchful eye on what happens in Los Angeles, with 30 percent of its business originating from the Orange County area. It’s tough to say how much sway Dean Spanos could have in blocking a team from relocating to Los Angeles, particularly with the NFL pushing the move. The bottom line is the Chargers want to remain in San Diego but any stadium proposal has to make sense financially, and relocating to a more lucrative market in Los Angeles remains a possibility.
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    Rams at Chargers: Stats of the Week

    2.57: Yards per carry the Rams’ run defense has allowed over the past three weeks, a vast improvement from a group that gave up 4.68 (26th in the league) in the first seven games.

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    Number of passing yards Philip Rivers needs to reach 35,000. He enters Sunday’s contest with 34,913 career passing yards.

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    Stalking the King of Pain

    Bernie Miklasz

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/ram-bytes-stalking-the-king-of-pain/article_c6c4169c-6060-5ec3-997b-3956760c63b4.html

    Good afternoon …

    1. If you enjoy watching tough quarterbacks trying to stand their ground against a swarming and ferocious pass rush, then you’re likely to be entertained by Sunday’s matchup between the Rams and Chargers.

    I don’t know if San Diego QB Philip Rivers is in fact the NFL’s toughest QB, but as Tony La Russa would say, he’s tied for first.

    Rivers has absorbed considerable punishment this season. According to Pro Football Focus Rivers has been pressured on 36.6 percent of his dropbacks this season, the league’s ninth-highest total among quarterbacks.

    Rivers is banged up as he prepares to face the Rams. The Chargers and their QB don’t elaborate on what’s aching him, but teammate Antonio Gates described it as a “severe rib injury,” only to later claim he was misquoted or misunderstood or something like that.

    Translation: the coaches got mad at Gates for describing the injury and identifying a specific target for defenses. The Chargers this week listed Rivers with a “chest” injury on the official report.

    In the NHL they’d call this an “upper body” injury.

    I think we can conclude that Rivers is hurting … but what else is new? He says he’s fine. The Chargers say he’s fine. And that’s what you’d expect from a proud football warrior.

    Rivers may be mad-dog nuts, and I offer that as a compliment.

    Rivers gets flattened, grimaces, rolls around, shakes it off, gets up, and resumes firing. But you can’t get him out of there. He won’t back down. Sunday against the Rams, Rivers will make his 139th consecutive start, the NFL’s second-longest active streak for regular-season games.

    The Rams’ pass rush has gone berserk in recent weeks, rolling up 19 sacks and 104 total quarterback pressures — over the last five games. (The numbers are from Pro Football Focus.) Defensive end Robert Quinn and defensive tackle Aaron Donald will be stalking the King of Pain.

    “I feel good,” Rivers told reporters in SD this week. “Shoot, it’s part of playing this position (to) get banged up here and there. I feel as good as I could ask to feel at this point in the season. If we told you every knick and knack we ever had, it’d be a long list and things you wouldn’t care to hear about.”

    Rivers may want to wear a flak jacket Sunday.

    The Gregg Williams defense will be coming after him. Not with the intent to injure, but to disrupt. Because is what the Rams do. But Rivers isn’t weak of heart, and if has time to make plays, he could inflict a different kind of pain on the Rams.

    2. The pain and discomfort may be impacting Rivers’ performance. In his first six games Rivers threw for 15 touchdowns with only two interceptions and had a passer rating of 117.6. In his last four games, Rivers has six TDs, six INTs and a passer rating of 76.0.

    3. Former Rams QB Kellen Clemens is backing up Rivers. He’s been busy this week briefing the Chargers on the Rams’ tendencies. I don’t know what that’s worth; Williams wasn’t the defensive coordinator during Clemens’ two seasons in St. Louis. But Clemens does have knowledge of what the Rams try to do on offense.

    “He knows where they want to go, what they want to do,” Chargers cornerback Shareece Wright told the San Diego Union Tribune. “It’s an accurate look, so we should be prepared. He knows their system. … It’s good to have him here.”

    Then again, the Rams’ offense is fairly predictable. Their tendencies are well established. I don’t think a Rams’ opponent requires an insider to ferret things out.

    4. How will the Chargers protect and preserve Rivers? One way to do it is run the football, and offensive coordinator Frank Reich sees an opportunity to overpower the Rams’ defensive front.

    “Those pass-rushers have that great speed off the edge,” Reich told the San Diego Union Tribune. “But where we have the advantage is, we’ve got size and strength on them at the tackle position. You can’t run 4.4 and be 350 pounds. We’ve got to wear ’em out physically.”

    The theory makes sense. But the Rams’ run defense has allowed only 136 yards rushing on 53 carries (an average of 2.56 yards) over the past three games.

    The return of RB Ryan Matthews should help the Chargers. He had 70 yards on 16 carries (4.4) against the Raiders after being out with a knee injury since Sept. 14.

    4a. And then there’s this: Rivers is excellent at drawing opponents to jump the line of scrimmage. In last week’s game against Oakland, Rivers’ barking and skill at mixing up the snap counts caused four pre-snap penalties by the Raiders. It’s possible for Rivers to exploit the Rams’ aggressiveness up front.

    5. The Chargers averaged 27.3 points per game in racing out to a 5-1 record to start the season. In their last four games they’ve averaged 13.5 points while going 1-3. But the Chargers have some dangerous targets. WR Malcolm Floyd is a legit deep threat. And keep an eye on Gates (the tight end) and WR Eddie Royal. They’ve been highly effective in lining up in the slot, combining for eight TD catches as slot receivers. Rookie Rams’ CB Lamarcus Joyner, who has done an effective job of covering the slot, is listed as doubtful (groin injury) for Sunday’s game.

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    This is a good one.

    They discuss the defense, Hill, Schottenheimer, Britt, Mason, the Rams prospects & what kind of team they are.

    He has a phrase I like on Mason–“he has great contact balance.”

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    Week 11

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/11/20/32-observations-week-11-3/

    St. Louis Rams: Cornerback E.J. Gaines has eight passes defended which is tied for third most among all cornerbacks.

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    PFF Preview: Rams @ Chargers, Week 12

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/11/21/pff-preview-rams-chargers-week-12/

    The St. Louis Rams (4-6) are coming off a victory that might have been the biggest upset of Week 11 against the Denver Broncos. They will travel to San Diego to take on the Chargers (6-4) who ended their three-game losing streak with a win over the Oakland Raiders last week.

    The Rams’ defense held Peyton Manning and the Broncos’ offense a mere seven points last week and will hope to contain the Chargers’ offense just as well. St. Louis’ defensive line has been a strong point of their season, and it appears defensive end Robert Quinn has hit his stride accumulating a +11.7 grade over the last four games. Against the Broncos he was able to create pressure six times and register two batted passes on his way to his best game of the year in rushing the passer (+4.0).

    Getting pressure on Philip Rivers without blitzing may be the key to beating the Chargers. Over the last three games, Rivers’ best rating when teams did not blitz was an even 0.0. His worst rating when the opposition did not blitz came against the Dolphins in Week 9 where he threw three interceptions and posted a -4.2. The Dolphins blitzed on nine of Rivers’ 27 drop-backs, and when they did Rivers had a +1.1 rating. Even though the Chargers came away with a victory against the Raiders, Rivers had a -1.6 when the Raiders did not blitz compared to his -0.4 when they did. Rivers completed all nine of his passes against the blitz, but was 13 of 25 on plays the Raiders did not blitz.

    If the Rams are able to get pressure on Rivers with Quinn and the rest of their front-four it appears they will have the advantage, but if they are forced to blitz Rivers to get pressure on him, the tables may be turned. Here are some other players to watch in this game.

    St. Louis Rams

    Aaron Donald – A front-runner for Rookie of the Year, Donald has been the second-best defensive tackle in the league overall (+21.6), and third-best against the run (+13.4).

    E.J. Gaines – Inconsistency has been an issue, but Gaines is currently one of just two rookie cornerbacks with green grades in both coverage and run defense (along with San Diego’s Jason Verrett).

    Kenny Britt – Britt was the primary deep threat in Week 11 when three of his seven targets were more than 20 yards downfield. Britt accumulated 96 receiving yards on deep passes.

    San Diego Chargers

    Brandon Flowers – When only including the weeks that Flowers has played this year he ranks second in the league overall +13.1, which shows how effective he can be when healthy.

    Melvin Ingram – Ingram returned to the Chargers’ starting line-up after overcoming a Week 2 injury and made an impact rushing the quarterback. He finished with three pressures on 25 pass rush attempts.

    Malcolm Floyd – Although Floyd hasn’t been flashy, he has been consistent catching fewer than three passes in only one game and less than 50 yards in two.

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    much better,snappier than the long looping release on the last pass in game 1.

    To be fair on that pass…that’s when he had the bad leg…the quad. There are references in JT, for example, to the fact that he made that pass on one leg. He couldn’t plant and use good form. He wound that one up to heave it.

    The thing about Hill for me is the brain-arm synergy. He has a pretty quick release, some nice velocity, but it’s combined with very quick decisions. Like on the TD to Britt–on the replay, endzone view, you can see it. The INSTANT he sees Britt it’s load it and zing it.

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    I’m not sure, but i think
    you have to go back to 2006 ?
    to find the last time the Rams
    beat two Winning teams in a row.

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    It was 2004. In games 16 and 17, they beat the 13-3 Eagles and the 10-6 Jets.

    JUST 2 in a row, winning teams aside?

    Games 15 & 16 last year (New Orleans & Tampa)…before that games 5 & 6 last year (Jacksonville & Houston)

    Last time the Rams won 3 in a row?

    Games 12-14 in 2012 (ARZ, SF, Buffalo)…before that games 15-17 in 2006 (Oakland, Washington, Minnesota).

    Last time the Rams won 4 in a row?

    …actually it’s 7 in a row in 2003, games 10-16 (Baltimore, Chicago, ARZ, Minnesota, Cleveland, Seattle, Cinncinnati).

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    Jim Thomas @jthom1
    Overall pass-rush numbers vs. Manning: 17 pressures, 6 QB hits, 2 sacks. Quinn had 4 pressures, 4 hits; Hayes had 5 pressures.

    Greg A. Bedard

    http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/20/brian-hoyer-contract/

    Peyton Manning and his injured weapons get a lot of air time, but a big problem with the Broncos has been that their offensive line, which was terrific last year until the Super Bowl and has gone downhill in a hurry. You thought Denver would be better getting injured Ryan Clady back at left tackle and moving Chris Clark to the right side, but that hasn’t been the case. Clady hasn’t played up to his usual level, and Clark was benched after five games. Paul Cornick wasn’t the answer at RT, so the Broncos have been playing musical chairs. RG Louis Vazquez was moved to RT in the loss to the Rams, with C Manny Ramirez moving to RG and Will Montgomery inserted at center. The Broncos better find a viable unit by the time the regular season ends or they’ll be making a quick exit in the playoffs.

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    from off the net

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    Chargers have played an easy schedule

    the Raiders twice, the Jets, Jacksonville and Buffalo are five of their six wins. They did beat Seattle but lost to Miami, Denver, KC and Arizona. We have a chance and then the schedule gets a whole lot easier.

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    Ogletree is back up to speed

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/ogletree-is-back-up-to-speed/article_7afe181c-c10b-51aa-9b56-40b83d959905.html

    With six games to go, it’s neck-and-neck once again for the team tackling title between linebackers James Laurinaitis and Alec Ogletree.

    “Right now?” Ogletree said after Thursday’s practice.

    Yes, 10 games into 2014, Ogletree and Laurinaitis have 103 tackles apiece entering Sunday’s contest at San Diego.

    “It’s definitely good to have a guy like that to compete against,” Ogletree said. “I definitely think he’s one of the top linebackers in the league. We’re just trying to be a great duo out there on the field.”

    After leading the Rams in tackles in each of his first four seasons in the league, Laurinaitis was edged out by Ogletree last season when Ogletree finished with 155 as a rookie to the 144 stops posted by Laurinaitis.

    But it’s not like either player is rushing to the Rams’ PR staff after each game to check on their tackling totals.

    “Tell you what, I try do whatever I can do to help the team win,” Laurinaitis said. “And he’ll say the same thing. At the end of the day, I don’t care how many tackles — you can give me two in a game — if we get the ‘W,’ that’s all I care about.”

    Right. Like Laurinaitis ever had just two tackles in a game.

    In any event, for much of September and October, it didn’t look like Ogletree would be competing for much of anything. He wasn’t playing terribly, but he wasn’t displaying the flash he did for about the final two-thirds of his rookie campaign in 2013.

    On several occasions earlier this season, Ogletree lost contain on the edge, leading to some big runs on the perimeter. And at times he struggled in coverage, leading to some easy completions by the opposition. At his best, Ogletree is a run-and-hit linebacker, and there were a couple of plays where there wasn’t enough “run” to make the hit — that is, he didn’t look as fast as usual.

    But these past few games, particularly vs. Arizona and Denver, the light switch has come on in a big way.

    Against Denver, he had 12 tackles, an interception and a pass breakup. The interception came on the first play of the fourth quarter when he stepped in front of a pass intended for Broncos tight end Jacob Tamme over the middle. It set up the fourth of five Greg Zuerlein field goals in the Rams’ 22-7 victory.

    Ogletree also snuffed out Denver’s last chance for any kind of comeback with 2 ½ minutes left to play when he batted down a Peyton Manning pass on fourth-and-1 from the St. Louis 41.

    A week earlier, in the 31-14 loss at Arizona, Ogletree once again had 12 tackles and an interception, which he returned 44 yards. His day also included a forced fumble, two pass breakups and a quarterback hit.

    “For whatever reason, he’s triggering faster, and he’s made the plays that have come to him,” Laurinaitis said. “He made a great play in Arizona for that ‘pick.’ Last week, he does what he’s coached to do on a seam route — makes a great catch.

    “He’s just flashing. For whatever reason, he’s playing faster. And I like to see that out of him, because when he plays fast he can be a destructive force.”

    Lately, the Rams have had players “flashing” at every level of their defense — D-line, linebackers and in the secondary. And that’s one reason why the unit has played so well lately. Adding Ogletree to that group recently has helped take the defense to a new level.

    “Alec’s playing at a really high level the last few weeks,” coach Jeff Fisher said Monday. “He’s making a lot of plays. I think he’s got a much better feel for what he’s doing.

    “It took him a while to get in good shape. And we’re using him a lot more behind the ball, as opposed to just lining up on the line of scrimmage and the tight end.”

    Fisher also slipped in a line about Ogletree showing up to training camp out of shape in the third week of November. It’s as if Fisher wanted it out there, on the record — a little nudge in Ogletree’s direction not to let it happen again.

    Because once the regular season arrives, and you’re basically practicing only three days a week, it’s hard to play yourself into shape.

    When asked if he was on the sportswriters’ diet during the five-week break between the conclusion of OTAs in June and the start of training camp in late July, Ogletree laughed and said: “No. I just ate a little more than what I should. But for the most part right now I feel pretty healthy and feel pretty much in shape.”

    Ogletree added, that he “wasn’t super overweight or anything” when he reported to camp. But pro football players are like finely-tuned machines: being just a little off can make a difference.

    “You definitely have to try to keep yourself in shape in the offseason,” Ogletree said. “And going into this (next) year, I’ll definitely do more of that. … I should’ve done a better job of coming back at the right weight and stuff like that.”

    Meanwhile, Manning must have left St. Louis glad about one thing: Ogletree doesn’t play in the same division. Because during a 2013 preseason game — the key third preseason game when the Broncos were taking their high-tempo offense out for a spin — Ogletree prevented what looked like a sure TD by knocking a Manning pass away in the end zone.

    And he made a quick-reaction interception over the middle in that game in Denver, a play that had Manning shaking his head as he walked off the field.

    “It’s definitely exciting picking off one of the greatest players in the league,” Ogletree said.

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    Ex-Rams QB Kellen Clemens giving Chargers tips from scout team

    November, 20, 2014

    http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/8391/ex-rams-qb-kellen-clemens-leading-scout-squad-for-bolts

    SAN DIEGO – Executing an opposing team’s offense in practice can be tedious at times, but the San Diego Chargers have an experienced hand helping them prepare for the St. Louis Rams in second-string quarterback Kellen Clemens, who spent three seasons in St. Louis, finishing 4-8 as a starter for the Rams.

    Clemens
    Clemens is very familiar with St. Louis offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer’s West Coast-based offense, having played in that scheme with the Rams and the New York Jets. Clemens also intimately knows the Rams’ personnel from his time in St. Louis.

    “It’s huge for us,” Chargers defensive coordinator John Pagano said. “For him to be able to stand in the huddle and say, ‘This is how this is run,’ or those types of things when he sees a play. He’s got his job to do, and he’s still got to prepare. But when he has the opportunity to look at the plays and talk to guys about certain routes, it’s always huge for that.

    “But you can’t put too much into that. Regardless of him, we have to go out and play, and we have to go out and execute. And that’s the most important thing.”

    Clemens also downplayed his role in getting San Diego’s defense prepared for Sunday.

    “I think I can give them as good of a look as I can, up until this point,” Clemens said. “I know the offense. I know how they’re going to read it. I know how they’re going to try to attack it, and the adjustments they’re going to make.

    “There’s little things that I can see while running the scout team in terms of how they’re going to run things. But a significant difference? I wish I could claim that, but I don’t think I can.”

    Clemens a two-year, $3 million contract with San Diego as a free agent, and said he holds no bad blood toward his former team. Clemens said he looks forward to seeing old teammates and friends made while in St. Louis on the field before the game starts.

    “I’ll be out a couple minutes early probably to get my warmup in,” Clemens said, smiling.

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