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  • in reply to: And turning to the Vikes game #6106
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    Wagoner: Kalil is in for one of the most difficult challenges he’ll face in this league. Quinn had 19 sacks and seven forced fumbles last year, but there are those at Rams Park who believe he’s only scratched the surface of his potential. Quinn has freakish athleticism, which allows him to bend and contort his body in ways most tackles never see while maintaining his speed. He is able to win around the edge more often than not, but he’s also developed better hand usage and counters over the past couple of years under the guidance of defensive line coach Mike Waufle.

    Kalil v. Quinn.

    That will be worth a glance or 2.

    in reply to: Chris Long restructured #6089
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    Pettis too.

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    Chris Long, Austin Pettis restructured contracts to help Rams gain cap space. Pettis rec’d $250k signing bonus to take $481k pay cut.

    Rams make moves to comply with cap

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11344/rams-make-moves-to-comply-with-cap

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — In an effort to become salary-cap compliant as the first week of the regular season begins, the St. Louis Rams made a couple of contract tweaks this week in order to clear more than $2 million in cap space.

    Defensive end Chris Long and wide receiver Austin Pettis are the two players who reconfigured some things in their deal to provide the relief. Long, who has regularly been flexible with his willingness to restructure, had $3 million of his guaranteed base salary for this season converted into signing bonus, which means that $3 million is paid immediately but will be prorated at a tag of $1 million over the next three seasons on the salary cap.

    In addition, the Rams converted $1 million of Long’s 2015 base salary into a roster bonus the team will pay on the third day of the next league year. That brings Long’s total of roster bonuses due early next year to $3 million.

    Long’s restructured deal saves the Rams an even $2 million on this year’s cap but adds that guaranteed $1 million cap charge over the next couple of seasons. This is the third time since signing a lucrative four-year contract extension in 2012 that Long’s deal has been reconfigured, each time in an effort to clear some salary cap space.

    For 2014, Long’s salary cap hit now checks in at $12,905,600 with a cash payout of $13,405,600, nearly all of which is guaranteed.

    With only this season left on his deal, Pettis re-did his deal to help the Rams shave even more money from the cap. Pettis took a pay cut that lowered his 2014 salary to $700,000 and includes a $250,000 signing bonus. Pettis was originally slated to make $1.431 million. The move saves the Rams $481,000.

    Before the moves, ESPN Stats & Information had the Rams fitting about as snugly as possible to the salary cap with less than $200,000 in available space. Now the team has a little room to breathe and cover the expense of the 10-man practice squad as well as fill any holes that might be created by injury.

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    Pettis too.

    Brian McIntyre @brian_mcintyre

    Chris Long, Austin Pettis restructured contracts to help Rams gain cap space. Pettis rec’d $250k signing bonus to take $481k pay cut.

    in reply to: who to keep who to cut #6081
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    TackleDummy wrote:
    Before all is said and done the Rams will have to come up with some cap space. This will probably mean reworking of the contracts of C. Long or Laurinaitis. Bradford might be a possibility, but I am not even sure if they could rework his contract while he is on IR or if they would want to.

    I guess I was right after all.

    As you pointed out before, we were saying the same thing.

    ME (above): “simple tweaks here or there to this or that contract creates space with minimal effort. So I think if they need space, they already have the names and numbers in mind and can change things quickly and painlessly.”

    I had in mind, for example, the last time they did that with Long. They just did it again.

    That is, I took you originally as saying they were genuinely tight against the cap. At that point, most people saying that meant that they would have to cut someone.

    My point was simply that they only look like they’re tight but can adjust that at any time. In a longer post, I pointed out that they generally do that by converting a portion of the cap into bonus money…so they decrease the frontloading a bit, and increase the stretched out bonus money a bit.

    Turns out though, as you already pointed out, you were just saying the same thing from a different angle….you WERE talking about simple adjustments. When you pointed that out, I agreed…I originally had misread you (in this thread) as saying their cap situation was a problem. My point was that it only LOOKS like a problem–that they are set up to fix small cap issues with adjustments. That’s built right in to how they do things.

    So in essence we were both right, but in the first go-round of this conversation (in this thread) I took you as missing exactly what in fact we were both saying.

    Misreads happen. Mea culpa. But I thought this was already cleared up.

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    Sry, no help…I’ve never tried that.

    What might be an alternative though is to buy the NFL.com season rewind package.

    THAT might cost less. IE, the combo of Sunday ticket during the season + rewind might be less than upgrading to tivo and being forced into a 24 month contract.

    in reply to: So, what is our O-line for this Sunday? #6043
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    This issue raises all sorts of other thoughts.

    In 2013, there were several linemen taken high in the 1st round and all but 1 struggled. In fact this summer, both Warmack and Cooper were still struggling.

    That’s not the Rams way. Boudreau does things differently. And (I submit) for good reasons.

    #1. Starting young OL immediately is not a universally good idea. As I said, all but one of the linemen picked in the top 10 last year, for example, struggled. That is probably because with increased emphasis on the passing game, the defense counters with increased emphasis on the pass rush, which in turn means that linemen need to be able to read defensive fronts and execute an array of protections–and they have to process all that quickly. Rookies will not always be good at that.

    #2. The days of year to year OL continuity are over. Since 93, according to a study I posted here, teams on avg. replace 3.5 OL starters every 2 years. One response to that is to coach in flexibility. Notice for example that Person plays all 5 positions. GR plays 2. That means that in the short term their heads will be swimming but in the long term your line is better off.

    #3. One way to handle the flexibility issue is to rotate linemen. Give the younger players some snaps, so they get a feel for it, but don’t just plop them in there to learn the hard way.

    So we notice that instead of making Robinson struggle right away on a team that already lost 1 qb, they’re taking their sweet time with him. That’s not a bad thing, it’s a good thing–especially since they already provided for this scenario by signing Joseph.

    The issue will be Long, not Robinson. But even then they have Saffold. It is a RARE team that is 3 deep at LOT. Long, Saffold, Robinson, and Person as the emergency utility guy. So they clearly thought about this.

    Another thing this tells us is that Fisher is not acting like he is on a 3-year plan. He does things that favor future pay-off, not immediate pay-off. And for good reason–ownership backs him. Kroenke has owned teams before and his pattern is clear–he hires a proven vet coach or manager. He gives that guy time, and free rein (or, free reign…same thing). He does not sweat it if their are speed bumps on the way, as long as the team is clearly developing the right direction.

    Fisher has a 5 year deal. He won’t be in trouble after year 3. It’s not SK’s way of doing things. So there is no make or break year 3.

    in reply to: And turning to the Vikes game #6033
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    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/setting-up-the-vikes-game/

    ADRIAN PETERSON:

    “What I do remember about that game is that it’s first time in eight years, I’ve ever talked off to players,” Peterson said in a conference call with St. Louis reporters on Wednesday. “Those guys had me so hot; like, I haven’t ever been that mad playing football. Those guys were just running to the ball — I love it, too — but (they) were just yapping at the mouth. I’m talking about from the defensive front to the second level to the secondary. Those guys were just yapping”

    I don;t like that aspect of the Rams. The big yappers thing.

    in reply to: Fisher, Hill – 9/03 … transcripts #6029
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    I still just can’t figure how a sports reporter who is meant to cover a sport can’t quickly do some background and not ask really asinine questions.

    Yeah, the last thing you need is to be corrected by the guy you’re interviewing on a simple fact that exists in the public record.

    Arizona reporter in 2008: Mr. Warner, this is your first superbowl, correct?

    Warner: uh, well,…

    There’s also the question where you know you’re not going to get an answer. So, for example, coach, do you think having GR learning two positions slowed his progress?

    Under what conditions is he ever going to affirm that view?

    Fisher: Yes. Yes I do. In fact that’s why we did it.

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    Gordon’s breakdown (first post in this thread) is about as thorough and you can get with this kind of thing, but he has a kind of chippy pessimism I don’t enjoy.

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    Peterson returns to site of big day vs. Rams

    By Ben Goessling

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/138589/peterson-returns-to-site-of-big-day-vs-rams

    EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. — The first carry of Adrian Peterson’s 2013 season saw him break free for a 78-yard touchdown. The first of the 2014 season will come in the building where he recorded the longest run of his career the last time he visited.

    The Minnesota Vikings’ previous trip to St. Louis came in Week 15 of the 2012 season, in a game the Vikings had to win to keep themselves in the playoff race. Peterson was in the middle of a transcendent stretch, having logged at least 100 yards in his previous seven games and gaining 210 two weeks before in Green Bay. The Rams game, though, turned out to be Peterson’s best of the season; he ran for 212 yards on 24 carries, with 82 of them coming on a touchdown run that helped him get the last word over a defense Peterson said had him in a foul mood that day.

    “What I do remember about that game is that it’s first time in eight years, I’ve ever talked off to players,” Peterson said in a conference call with St. Louis reporters on Wednesday. “Those guys had me so hot; like, I haven’t ever been that mad playing football. Those guys were just running to the ball — I love it, too — but (they) were just yapping at the mouth. I’m talking about from the defensive front to the second level to the secondary. Those guys were just yapping and they were doing pretty good initially, kind of getting a couple tackles for loss, a couple of three-and-outs. And then when I gunned at them one time, it got real quiet. I’m not going to give you my hint. I hope they come in talking a lot of noise this time, too. I’m excited to play these guys.”

    Sunday’s game should be a good opening test for Peterson against an aggressive Rams defense that was ninth in the league against the run last season while posting 53 sacks. The Rams took down opposing quarterbacks on 10.2 percent of their dropbacks, which was tied for the second-highest rate in the league, according to ESPN Stats & Information, and pressure from the St. Louis front four could make Peterson a safety valve for Matt Cassel, through his new role in the passing game and delayed handoffs designed to take advantage of aggressive fronts.

    “I think they do a tremendous job up front creating pressure, making you get the ball out quick, make quick decisions at the quarterback position,” Cassel said. “I think it’s going to be a big task for us this week to take care of that front and be able to let me get the ball out and I think that these guys will be up for the challenge.”

    Peterson didn’t play at all in the preseason, and has seemed eager to get his first game action in the Vikings’ new offense after a long stretch of non-contact work. “He welcomes contact even when he’s running and doing those thing,” Cassel said. “You can see that he doesn’t shy away from it and it’s almost the defender’s responsibility to get out of the way. I think that that’s how he’s got to practice and that’s how he plays no matter what the situation and that’s good because once he gets to the season I think that’s why he’s ready to go.”

    He’ll have a little extra edge playing against a Rams defense that brought out the best in him last time.

    “They have some guys that can get to the ball, to the passer and they run to the ball well,” Peterson said. “I know Coach Zimmer would love that type of defense. I’m excited to play those guys.”

    in reply to: board exchange 9/03 #6001
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    >zn wrote:

    &21Dog wrote:
    How do I contact a mod on this site?

    You know that’s a good question…meaning I realized when you asked that that, in fact, we had not supplied that information. I will add something about that to the original post in this thread.

    I am a mod–through PM. Or you can make it public, here. The other mods are Herzog, InvaderRam, and Mack.

    Just wanted to apologize for the response last night which caused a thread to be closed.

    Not usually my style. Sorry for cluttering the board with that kind of stuff.

    It’s cool 21. Stuff happens. It’s classy to apologize, but I know you from way back, and I don’t think of you as a problem (far from it)…you’re always welcome in these parts. Post on, and go Rams.

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    How do I contact a mod on this site?

    You know that’s a good question…meaning I realized when you asked that that, in fact, we had not supplied that information. I will add something about that to the original post in this thread.

    I am a mod–through PM. Or you can make it public, here. The other mods are Herzog, InvaderRam, and Mack.

    in reply to: Rams' 10-Man Practice Squad #5997
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    from the PD

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    The Rams have made a change on the practice squad, waiving safety Matt Daniels and adding tight end Brad Smelley.

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    I didn’t think about it before, but they kept 6 corners. (Along with 3 safeties, though Joyner must cover at FS).

    I doubt they keep 6 corners all year. So my bet is, when both Johnson and Bailey are back, one of the corners goes. He then, I would think, replaces someone on the PS.

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    Cringe … *hear me out, not here me out. Geez.

    Fixt.

    in reply to: So, what is our O-line for this Sunday? #5980
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    As much as I’m disappointed that Robinson isn’t deemed ready to start yet, I’m glad that the coaches aren’t throwing him out there for the sole reason that he was a high draft choice. I’m also happy that Joseph is ready to go.

    But, I do worry about Jake Long and the LT position in general. If Robinson is the backup, I’m afraid that we have a guy who looks old at LT backed up by a guy who is too green for prime time.

    I think Saffold backs up LOT. GR presumably would go in at guard in place of Saffold?

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    I’ll leave this here for all you Pollyannas

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    I will take a more indirect approach.

    Another classic, also orchestrated:

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    He is young and comes from a limited offense. He is almost another Quick. imo

    Robby is on track to be a great OL…. Robby looked very good at LOT. I saw him give up part of a sack once, late in the half. But generally his pass blocking was sound: he’d have his guy walled off while the rest of the OL was being over-run. And his run blocking really is impressive. He can drive the DL, but he also gets to the 2nd level and blows LBs backward. Tell you what … right now I’d just as soon start him over Jake the Fraud Long.

    Just reinforcing all that:

    RockRam

    I watched all the preseason games at least twice, and some 3 times, focusing on different people and units.

    GRob is a beast! He throws 330 lb. Dlinemen around with one arm (I’m not exaggerating).

    His problem is he makes mistakes. He blocks the wrong guy. Misses assignments.
    But physically, he’s not movable on Pass Pro, and he moves his guy wherever he wants to on run plays.

    It’s the mental part of the game and certain technique issues.
    He’s an entirely different animal that J. Smith who was 30 lbs smaller and soft.

    Before the draft, this issue was known.
    The question all draft analysts asked was: which is better. To get a plug and play guy like Matthews that has a low ceiling but a high floor? Or get a guy who will need technique and assignment work who has a HOF ceiling?

    If you will note, it is Fisher’s and Snead’s spoken philosophy to always go for the higher ceiling.
    That’s what the did and I suspect they don’t regret it.

    Just remember: Oline is tough in the NFL. Warmack and Cooper have struggled mightily even in their 2nd year.
    And neither of those were asked to practice equally between LT and LG.

    GRob is going to be fine. But it might be mid point this year.
    Right now, Saffold and Joseph are simply better.

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    Nonsense.

    Everyone takes time to learn to play OL in the pros.

    And Robby is on track to be a great OL.

    Yeah, plus as I said elsewhere, Boudreau has rarely if ever started a rookie OL in week 1 and that goes back years and years.

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    Fisher is not in trouble. He has a 5 year deal with an owner who has shown in the past that he hires veteran coaches, lets them run things, and does not sweat the short-term speedbump stuff.

    And they’re not “questionable picks.” Week 1 of year 1 of a pick is way, way, way too early to make judgements like that (and besides you’re wrong about that anyway).

    Toughen up dude. Don’t sweat the small stuff.

    Boudreau rarely if EVER starts rookie linemen early in the season and that’s going back YEARS. If nothing else that’s why they signed Joseph. They’re covered.

    in reply to: Of all 32 #NFL starting QBs: 17 were first-round picks #5932
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    I was just funnin’ with ya. I knew it wasn’t that cut and dried…

    Actually I posted my thing without being aware of your response. I was just responding to Caplan. It took time to write and then when I posted, there you were.

    All of which is beside the point.

    Cause, we crossed the line, unintentionally or not.

    Yes. Tragically, and like it or not…

    it’s a board war.

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    in reply to: Of all 32 #NFL starting QBs: 17 were first-round picks #5915
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    I don’t agree with him. If you want to examine how qbs are acquired, you need to also look at free agency and trades.

    For example, Manning may have been picked in the first round, but that’s not how Denver acquired him.

    It looks different if you factor in how teams acquire qbs. So I am counting free agency and trades.

    I only count starters as of this week.

    High 1st round pick (10 and above): Tannenhill, Luck, Locker, Rivers, Eli, Griffin3, Stafford, Newton, Ryan
    Lower 1st round pick:Roethlisberger,Rodgers,Flacco, Manuel,
    2nd: G.Smith, Dalton, Carr, Kaepernick
    3rd round: Foles, Wilson

    4th-7th round: Brady
    UDFA: Romo

    Free agency: Hoyer, Fitzpatrick, Henne, Cassel, Brees, McCown,Hill,Manning
    Trade: A.Smith, Cutler, Palmer

    13 in the first round (high and low combined).
    11 in free agency or trades

    Or further divided:

    9 high in the 1st round
    10 lower in round 1 + rounds 2 and 3
    11 in free agency or trades

    It all depends on how you want to count it.

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    Geez, I was gettin ready to pack up the tent and the camel to move to the next watering hole… ;)

    No need.

    THIS is our watering hole.

    Drink up.

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    in reply to: audio – Lillibridge, JT, Sando #5898
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    Cusumano has it in his head that Bradford was this huge liability (ie. he thought that before the injury). I don’t get that.

    in reply to: Very, very quick takes, PS Game 4 #5895
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    That’s a pretty good take I think.

    Admittedly, given the way they used game 4 this time (no starters), it’s like a thorough and conscientious restaurant review of a breakfast diner. Still. I especially like your take on the DBs. To me you sum it up nicely.

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    Robert Quinn ‏@RQuinn94 8m
    Congrats to @JJWatt on the new luxurious extension…#WellDeserved

    He forgot to add “yes!…bwa ha ha….

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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>zn wrote:</div>
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    in reply to: Quinn must be smiling #5845
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    J.J. Watts signed his contract extension:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24691270/report-texans-jj-watt-agree-to-terms-on-6-year-100-million-extension

    J.J. Watt said in mid-August that it would be “great” to get an extension done with the Texans before the regular season started and it looks like the team listened. According to the Houston Chronicle, Watt and the Texans have agreed to terms on a six-year extension worth up to $100 million.

    That total includes $51.876 million in guaranteed money, making Watt the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. The previous high for a defensive player was Mario Williams’ six-year, $96 million deal with Buffalo that included $50 million in guarantees.

    Watt will be getting a substantial raise in his new contract.

    Under the terms of his rookie deal, the 11th overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft was set to make a total of $8.1 million over the final two years of his contract. Watt was scheduled to earn $1.9 million in 2014 and $6.9 million in 2015.

    Yeah Quinn will get easily that much.

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    in reply to: Burwell: Fear of distraction might slow Sam's search for team #5838
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    According to several NFL sources, they readily admitted that the ESPN report by Josina Anderson last week where she asked players about Sam’s shower habits in the locker room “did him no favors.”

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