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znModeratorI cannot see Fisher here next season. Just can’t after seeing tonight, and how our season has played out, so far, Jeff Fisher may be coaching his last season ever in the NFL. So that being said, who will be our new Head Coach in 2015.
Well assuming Fisher is gone, which I doubt…in my entire history of discussing football on the net, no poster has ever been good at “who should the coach be” discussions. It’s the area where we know absolutely the least and have no clue, collectively, how to sort through candidates…and the journalists everyone relies on for info barely know more. I have even read and discussed it with some who swore they knew but they’re invariably wrong…and like by light years. For example, name me the guy who predicted McCarthy, Payton,McCoy, Arians, Pagano, or JOHN (not Jim) Harbaugh etc. and I mean all of them. If you can name me that guy, I will listen to HIM.
And it’s mostly a strong hunch, but as I said I don’t see Fisher leaving after this year. And, IMO, 5 games in is way too soon for that kind of discussion anyway…regardless how anyone feels about the last few games.
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tre mason activated!
espn just said mason has been activated for tonight. AWESOME! 😀
znModeratorI saw a report that Barnes might start instead of Wells. This is based on who is warming up with Davis by a fan at the game.
I can see Robinson and Donald.
But 2 line changes? Against SF? With Barnes starting? On this one…if true…they better be right.

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Gruden comparing Austin Davis to Drew Brees
Gruden had an entire segment on it in the ESPN pre game.
Including the fact that they lick their hands a lot. Looks like ESPN is buying into the AD9 hype…
znModeratorHome teams were 9-3-1 this week. That includes teams like Seattle losing, but it was to Dallas.
And I wasn’t at ALL surprised to hear and read people say that the NFL “needs” teams like Dallas to be good. What a crock of shit.
So, the NFL doesn’t “need” New York to be good? It’s not a bigger media market than Dallas? Chicago doesn’t “need” to be good?
I’d be THRILLED…all caps, bolded, underlined, extra large type… with orchestral fanfare… if the Rams could pull out the win.
I don’t even really care how (other than cheating). Don’t want that.
It’s possible to say that on paper, the Rams match up well with SF.
Problem is, the on paper Rams often give way to the mistake riddled Rams. And I mean “oh you mean you CAN’T microwave an aerosal can?!” level mistakes. Talking “23 men on the field” penalties. That kind of thing. Heck, I live for the day when we just see ordinary, everyday football mistakes.
If the mistakes abate…then, they match up well on paper with the 9ers I think.
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my thoughts for tonight are this…
-underdog on monday night is usually a good bet
-bet against road favorites
-rams are due to play a game where they don’t self-destruct
-the d line will wake up
October 13, 2014 at 2:04 am in reply to: Greg Robinson still awaiting his opportunity — Wagoner #9527
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The choice isn’t A) get an immediate impact player that turns into a stud or B) get a player that develops into a stud a couple years down the road. It’s more of a percentage breakdown. I actually just ran the numbers out of curiosity, for the players drafted in the first round from 2000 to 2004(did this so the final class would have a decade in the league so there was no question about what a guy developed into) the percentage breakdown is:
15% are immediate impact players that develop into studs
15% are not immediate impact players that develop into studs
15% are immediate impact players that develop into starters (but not studs)
15% are not immediate impact players that develop into starters(but not studs)
40% are busts
So I’m not going to complain if it takes a guy 2-3 years to develop into a stud or even a quality starter because he could have very well been a bust. And that’s ONLY looking at FIRST ROUND PICKS over that 5 year period.
Schemes, playbooks, responsibilities, and terminology differ greatly from college football to pro football. It’s not something you just know from playing football; it’s something you have to learn. It’s not about learning HOW to block. It’s about knowing what to do on each given play based on what the defense is showing both pre and post-snap.
I can easily believe that Robinson didn’t/doesn’t understand what’s going on enough to be more productive than Joseph because I’ve seen other young players forced onto the field in similar circumstances and make tons of mental errors due to that…errors that really hurt their team and hindered that player’s development.
People underestimate the mental side of playing on the line. If Robinson can’t be trusted to decipher and pick-up blitzes/stunts, he’s more of a liability than Joseph.
Joseph is good for a few irritatingly bad plays each game but doesn’t screw up on every play. If Robinson goes out there and can’t pick the blitz up, he’s going to get Davis pummeled. Because teams will recognize that and blitz the hell out of him. Worst of all, you risk destroying Robinson’s confidence and undoing the technical work you’ve done to this point. The Rams will get him on the field when he’s ready. If we know that Joseph is bad, you better bet the Rams do.
Why can other rookies start and be successful? Players mature and learn at their own pace…just like people. Some learn quicker than others. Some are more ready because of practical experience than others. Keep in mind that Matthews was a Senior, Robinson was a Sophomore. Matthews started four years in college. Robinson started two years in college. Matthews is the son of a HOF NFL OL and a current NFL OL Coach.
Hopefully, Robinson can be the difference maker on the OL when he plays.
znModeratorRams’ 1999 defense also worthy of respect
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/12523/rams-1999-defense-also-worthy-of-honor
EARTH CITY, Mo. — Long before the St. Louis Rams traded for running back Marshall Faulk or hired Mike Martz to run the offense or any of the other moves they made that eventually turned the offense into what is now known as the “Greatest Show on Turf,” the Rams’ offense was perpetually stuck in the mud. Even in practice.
That’s because even as the Rams struggled to win games, they actually had the defensive pieces in place to become a good team if only the offense could keep them off the field long enough to come up for air.
“I just don’t think they talk about our defense enough,” receiver Torry Holt said. “We were the No. 1 offense in the National Football League, but our defense was top five in the NFL. But they were so overshadowed by what we were doing offensively and the speed and the points that we were generating, the energy that we created. But I think our defense just didn’t get talked about enough and still doesn’t get talked about enough.
“Some would say there wasn’t a lot of household names. I beg to differ. Todd Lyght, Kevin Carter, Mike Jones, D’Marco Farr, Ray Agnew, Keith Lyle, the list goes on and on of guys that were more than able to start on any team in the National Football League. They played together as a cohesive unit all the time for a long period of time for 16 weeks. They created a lot of turnovers and gave us as an offense the opportunity to get the ball back and generate more points.”
As the Rams offense burst on to the scene in 1999, the defense made a similar move to rank near the top of the league in most categories. Though the two were simultaneously impressing on a weekly basis, the defense was quietly flying under the radar by offering big plays and shutting down opponents in blowout victories.
Although it was easy to point to the large leads the offense often staked the defense to as the reason for success, such leads were also a product of a defense capable of getting enough early stops for the points to accumulate. And in many cases, the defense also provided the points.
That season, the Rams were fourth in the NFL in points allowed per game (15.1), first in run defense (74.3 yards per game) and tied for the league lead with 57 sacks. They also finished sixth in takeaways with 36 and scored three defensive touchdowns.
Defensive end Carter posted a then-franchise record with 17 sacks on his way to a Pro Bowl berth. Defensive tackle Farr and cornerback Lyght joined Carter in Hawaii. It was a group that also featured the young versions of future difference-makers London Fletcher and Leonard Little.
“We all did our job,” Farr said. “The Greatest Show on Turf thing where it became just about the offense, that’s something else from outside this room. We all worked together. When we stopped them and got the ball back, we knew we were going to score. It was a personal challenge. They’d be up watching us play defense and we’d be up watching them play offense. If you don’t do it, we’re going to do it. If you have a whole group like that, the next thing you know you are in the Super Bowl.”
In no place was that more evident than on the practice fields at Rams Park. For the previous two seasons under coach Dick Vermeil, the Rams’ defense would regularly dominate the proceedings in practice. Receiver Isaac Bruce remembers the helpless feeling of playing on an offense that couldn’t even score in practice let alone in games.
But after the offseason additions of guys like Faulk, Martz, Holt, Adam Timmerman and others, it didn’t take long for the defense to realize that things were about to change.
“It’s not like you don’t have much respect for the guys you play with, you do,” Farr said. “They’re your teammates, you love them, but we were facing a whole lot better on game day than we were getting in practice. So practice got boring some of those years. We could shut those guys down anytime we needed to, so how were we getting better? Then all of a sudden it switched where we’re on our heels, we’re backing up and you look up and start to recognize signals and demeanor. Then it became something different and they started to compete with us and beat us.”
In many ways, the practices became tougher than the games for the defense. Where Farr could once have his way with any nondescript guard on the roster, players like Timmerman and Tom Nutten would offer much more resistance. Tales of left tackle Orlando Pace’s dominance of end Grant Wistrom in practice still get talked about anytime an offensive tackle beats an end consistently in pass-rush drills. But Pace’s excellence only made things easier for Wistrom.
Though the defense still doesn’t get the credit it might deserve 15 years later, there is no denying the Rams wouldn’t have even gone to Super Bowl XXXIV, let alone win it, without a strong defensive performance. When the offense finally struggled against Tampa Bay’s stout defense in the NFC Championship Game, it was the Rams’ defense that rose to the occasion.
The Rams held Tampa Bay to 203 total yards and came up with two turnovers, five sacks and a safety in leading St. Louis to an 11-6 victory.
“We got into a dogfight,” Farr said. “It made me respect Tampa more on defense, because if you can slow those guys down, then you can play. But we were more than capable of going into a dogfight with anybody. That type of game is what that defense was used to before the offense took off. It was nothing new to us. It was ‘OK, that’s what type of game this is? Great.’ We’d been there before. So we were trained for it.”
They became champions because of it.
October 13, 2014 at 1:03 am in reply to: Journalists set up the 9ers game (Wagoner, Thomas, audios, vids, etc.) #9522
znModeratorW2W4: St. Louis Rams
by Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/12505/w2w4-st-louis-rams-9
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams and San Francisco 49ers cap Week 6 on Monday night at the Edward Jones Dome. Kickoff is set for 8:30 p.m. ET on ESPN.
Here are three things to watch from the Rams’ perspective:
1. Penalty persistence: Under coach Jeff Fisher, the Rams have been the most penalized team in the league during the past two seasons, a trend that has continued to some extent this season as they rank 30th in the league in penalties per game entering Week 6. Fisher finally took some action to slow the penalty issues this week, releasing linebacker Ray Ray Armstrong in part for his continued mental errors. Fisher has been especially upset with the flags his team draws before and after the whistle, things such as false starts, offside and unsportsmanlike conduct. With a small margin for error against a team like San Francisco, every flag makes a difference because every yard counts on both sides of the ball. Making matters more interesting has been San Francisco’s penchant for flags. The Niners’ 48 penalties is the second-most in the league. If the Rams can cut down on their mistakes and the Niners continue to have issues, it would go a long way toward a victory.
2. Communication is key: Speaking of consistent mental breakdowns, the Rams have a bad habit of committing the types of defensive miscues that translate into big plays for the offense. Against Dallas, a coverage breakdown led to Dez Bryant’s 68-yard touchdown and a similar error led to Philadelphia’s Jeremy Maclin being wide open for a 24-yard score last week. The Rams lost both games by one possession, a possession that might have gone their way were it not for those errors. The Rams defense has been disappointing in the first quarter of the season because it’s had a series of successful plays wiped out by five or six big plays. The Niners will likely get a big play or two along the way, but the Rams simply can’t afford to allow the five or six they’ve been giving up in recent weeks.
3. Bringing down Kaepernick: The Rams have just one sack through the first four weeks, a statistic that will continue to draw a lot of attention until its remedied. But if ever there was a chance for the defense to right the ship, this could be it. Niners quarterback Colin Kaepernick has been sacked 13 times this season, fourth-most in the league. Some of that has been a product of an offensive line that’s dealt with injuries and some of it is on Kaepernick’s knack for abandoning the pocket too quickly and running into sacks. The Rams have blitzed (by percentage) more than any team in the league, but that’s not the way to handle Kaepernick, who had a big performance against the blitz last week when he went 6-of-10 passing for 129 yards against Kansas City, with all of his completions against the blitz gaining first downs. That means it’s time to get back to basics for the Rams by relying on their front four to push the pocket. More work for defensive tackle Aaron Donald would be helpful as well.
October 13, 2014 at 1:02 am in reply to: Journalists set up the 9ers game (Wagoner, Thomas, audios, vids, etc.) #9521
znModeratorRams-49ers: Matchup breakdown
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/12513/rams-49ers-matchup-breakdown-2
EARTH CITY, Mo. — A look at three individual matchups to keep an eye on when the St. Louis Rams and San Francisco 49ers meet at 8:30 p.m. ET Monday night on ESPN.
Rams linebacker James Laurinaitis vs. Niners running back Frank Gore
Like clockwork, San Francisco running back Frank Gore has been the centerpiece of the offense almost since he arrived in the league back in 2005 and certainly since his second season in 2006. Gore’s physical, powerful running style has made life difficult for the Rams in the time since, and has allowed Gore to have as much or more success against St. Louis than any other team. Gore has 14 rushing touchdowns against the Rams, the most of any player in NFL history. In 14 meetings, he has rushed for 1,149 yards and those touchdowns on 254 carries with five 100-yard outings. In the teams’ last meeting in St. Louis, Gore had 20 carries for 153 yards and a touchdown.
The Rams’ defense, meanwhile, has struggled to stop the run, sitting 29th in the league in that category by allowing 152.5 yards per game and 28th in the league at 4.82 yards per rush allowed. Laurinaitis isn’t the only one tasked with slowing Gore, but much of the responsibility falls on the middle linebacker in terms of having everyone lined up correctly and not allowing for mental mistakes like a blown gap responsibility. Laurinaitis said this week that he feels like he could not watch much tape and know exactly what the Niners are going to do. That might be the case, but knowing and doing are two very different things.
Rams right tackle Joe Barksdale vs. 49ers linebacker Ahmad Brooks
Barksdale has been a pleasant surprise in the Rams’ lineup since he became a full-time starter a year ago, but Brooks is one player who has proved a nightmare — not just for the Barksdale but the Rams as a whole. Without the services of Aldon Smith and NaVorro Bowman, the 49ers have leaned on others to pick up the slack, but Brooks hasn’t necessarily been able to do that as one would expect. In the Thursday night meeting in St. Louis a year ago, Brooks had a sack and a half and led the team with nine tackles on his way to his best season. Brooks has been relatively quiet so far this season with nine tackles and a sack, but he’s getting pressure with three hits and nine pressures. There are other 49ers capable of generating pressure, especially defensive lineman Justin Smith, but neutralizing Brooks is a good place to start.
Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins vs. 49ers wide receiver Anquan Boldin
Despite numerous offseason additions and the return of a healthy Michael Crabtree, it’s Boldin who is still the 49ers’ most productive receiver with his 25 catches and 303 yards. Much like Gore, Boldin has made a career of tormenting the Rams. In 15 games against the Rams, Boldin has 97 receptions for 1,326 yards and seven touchdowns, including six 100-yard games.
Given the other options in the passing game, it’s unlikely Jenkins will shadow Boldin as he did Dallas’ Dez Bryant earlier this season, but the two will likely see plenty of each other as they did a year ago. In the 2013 game in San Francisco, Jenkins repeatedly tussled with Boldin, who had nine catches for 98 yards and got Jenkins off his game with his physical style and willingness to engage in trash talk. There is no love lost between these two, but the Rams need more from Jenkins in order to keep Boldin and the 49ers in check.
znModeratorzn wrote:
It’s early. And there are too many unknowns. But…here’s what I see:1. Davis is better than Bradford already
2. Bradford is better than Davis & he can come back
3. Bradford may be better than Davis but he can’t come back, and Davis is fine
4. Davis isn’t good enough, Bradford can’t come back, so draft a namebrand college kid high in the draft
5. If Davis improves and Bradford can come back, interesting problem to haveIts a fascinating issue and i think its
the Rams-story of the year – Austin Davis.Bradford and Davis are so…different.
Hard to say who’s ‘better’ but they ‘are’
different.Its way too early to know for sure what
exactly they have in AustinD,
but IF (and only if) he continues to improve…I would
probably ‘prefer’ his game to Bradford’s game.If Austin is gonna continue to miss blitzers,
fail at crunch time and be a turnover machine,
then, he’s just gonna be a good gunslinger-backup.But i suspect, he is gonna improve and i suspect
the Rams have themselves a ram=version of Romo.
Which is fine with me.w
vI beg to differ.

See, to me, as much as I like watching Davis, I think 2 other things, too.
First, I think Hill would have done just as well. It would have been different, somewhat anyway, but…these receivers were primed to be what they are. Hill coulda done it too, I think.
But also, I think a healthy Bradford would have just torn up the league. I think with SB they would already be 3-1 or even 4-0. I base that on what I read from OTAs and camp, and on seeing the bits in the pre-season, where the guy who was playing very well against Carolina in 2013 just re-emerged intact and ready.
There’s a long way to go with Davis. If he develops, and becomes the guy for whatever reason, I won’t complain. But…Bradford would have been smoking defenses like…um…a sausage, with…a cigarette.
znModeratorI see posts at other bb sites stating some think Bailey is a future starter. I think he’s OK, but a guy with 16 career catches and no receiving tds in a season and 1/4 doesn’t give me confidence. He’s also had chances and squandered them away with failed drug tests. I guess in asking, how do u folks here feel about Bailey and his future? Thx
It’s the way he plays. It’s not the numbers. I am a Bailey advocate. I think he IS starting material. Again, that was just by watching how he plays…it has nothing to do with the stats. He’s confident, aggressive, field smart, has very good hands, adjusts to the ball, fights for the ball, and can run routes. That little bit was apparent even in his limited time.
BUT with the emergence of Quick and the addition of Britt, combined with his suspension, he may not get many targets any time soon.
Which is fine. IMO if what he showed last year holds up, then, it means the Rams could be deep at WR. Which…would be different, and interesting.
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October 12, 2014 at 5:57 pm in reply to: so who if anyone are you watching? Or…for later…who did you watch? #9509
znModeratorNow, Seattle/Dallas.
It too is sound only coming off the laptop as I work away on delayed household fixer-ups.
Dallas leading. It’s just sound, but I do like the sounds of THAT.
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znModeratorYou missed:
6. Hill is the best QB who ever played for Mike Martz and is going to prove it when he takes over for an ineffective or injured Davis and leads the Rams to victory over the Niners on MNF.
I actually think Hill would have been good. I base that on his play in the Vikes game. It has nothing to do with Martz. I thought he was set up to play well in this offense. I don’t think we’ll ever know though.
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said after last week Davis WAS the reason we lost..brutal 1st/3rd quarter. Phlly went into cruise control with that big lead..
quick look at the hof qb’s who have thrown 400+ yds in the last 10 years…Kelly Holcome 413, Billy Volek 492, Billy Volek 426, Joey Harrington 405, Matt Leinart 423, Cris Weinke 405, Jon Kitna 446, Jay Cutler 447, Matt Cassel 400, Kyle Orton 431, Kyle Orton 476, Matt Cassell 469, Chad Henne 411, Matt Flynn 480, Ryan tannehill 431 and the great Josh Freeman 420..and Davis couldn’t even break 400?
…still just too small a sample size to judge him..next 4 games will say if the rams hit a home run with Davis .,,,especially the next 2
what I want to see from Davis? !st quarter success, especially when blitzed, arm strength and the ability to take a hit. Don’t root for players just not my style but would be great for the starving fans in st Louis if they found another Warner
znModeratorThat’s sad news. My condolences to the family. Does anyone know what happened?
This is the thread on the herd board.
http://www.ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?5,521652,521652#msg-521652
znModerator49ers’ Jim Harbaugh a fan of Rams QB Austin Davis
By Paul Gutierrez | ESPN.com
St. Louis Rams quarterback Austin Davis has an unlikely fan — San Francisco 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh.
Especially after Davis’ performance last week — he threw for 375 yards and three TDs on 29-of-49 passing against the Philadelphia Eagles — and despite the fact that Davis will be facing Harbaugh’s Niners on “Monday Night Football.”
“He’d be coming into this game with a lot of confidence I’m sure,” said Harbaugh, himself a 14-year veteran NFL quarterback. “The ball game he played against the Eagles and the fact that he’s gotten better and better every single week, you can see it. It was one of the rare times where I’ve watched coaches’ tape and been excited about the game.”
Davis brought the Rams back from a 34-7 deficit and had St. Louis within 34-28 with more than four minutes to go before eventually falling by that score.
“To watch them come back, sparks were flying,” Harbaugh said. “This was a quarterback that was making throws, an offense that was making plays. And then the last drive, they had a chance to win the game and I’m like, ‘Maybe they got the score wrong. Maybe the Rams really won this game,’ because he made a couple of throws in that drive there that were right on the money and gave his team the chance to win.
“That was a very interesting game to watch on tape … he’s got a knack of throwing the ball in traffic. He can have guys hanging on him, around him, and he’s able to get the ball out at the last second.”
He also did not throw an interception.
“[Davis was] playing with no conscience about throwing the ball down the field and deep, so we’re going to have to do a good job defending the deep ball,” Harbaugh said.
Davis was undrafted coming out of Southern Mississippi in 2012 and had not appeared in an NFL game until this season. Injuries to starter Sam Bradford and backup Shaun Hill opened the door for third-stringer Davis.
And no, Harbaugh was not intrigued by Davis heading into the 2012 draft.
“I wish I would’ve been more aware of him,” Harbaugh said. “He looks like a real nice prospect.”
Then was Harbaugh aware of Davis at all?
“Not that much, no,” Harbaugh said. “I am now, though.”
October 11, 2014 at 12:54 pm in reply to: Journalists set up the 9ers game (Wagoner, Thomas, audios, vids, etc.) #9463
znModeratorRamBill
Choosing one word to sum up Rams vs. 49ers. Anthony Stalter says the one word to sum up the game for the Rams is urgency, while Randy Karraker says Gore…as in Frank Gore and stopping him.
http://www.rams-news.com/rams-vs-49ers-in-one-word-video/%5DWatch Rams-Niners in One Word
October 11, 2014 at 11:16 am in reply to: Player vids & articles: Quick, Will Herring, Davis, Donald, Saffold, Watts #9454
znModeratorNiners Digest: Quick becoming a factor for Rams passing game
Chris Biderman
http://sfo.scout.com/story/1462347-quick-becoming-a-factor-for-rams-passing-game
Believe it or not, the Rams have the league’s sixth-ranked passing offense with third-string quarterback Austin Davis at the helm. A big reason has been the development of receiver Brian Quick.
SANTA CLARA, Calif. – One of the criticisms of the Rams in recent seasons has been their inability to draft and develop receivers.
Much of that criticism was pointed at wideout Brian Quick, who was taken with the first pick in the second round in 2012 and had just 29 receptions in his first two seasons. But that criticism might be taking a sharp turn given Quick’s play over his last two games.
Quick combined for three touchdown catches in losses to the Eagles and Cowboys, setting a new career high after having two in each of his first two seasons. His yardage is also up significantly, averaging 80.5 per game after posting 18.9 in 2013.
“To me, he’s just playing with a lot more confidence and knowledge of the game,” 49ers defensive coordinator Vic Fangio said. “More aggressiveness, going to get the ball, feeling comfortable knowing the routes he’s running. Being in the same system now since he’s been there. I see a damn good receiver.”
The Rams invested seven draft picks in receivers since 2010 and await their first 700-yard season since Torry Holt in 2008. Last year, tight end Jared Cook led the team with 671 yards and five touchdowns.
Of course, the main problem in St. Louis has been the Rams’ quarterback situation. For the second straight season former No.1-overall pick Sam Bradford suffered a torn ACL ending his year prematurely. Last year it happened in Week 7, this year in the preseason.
But being forced to play with reserve QB Austin Davis hasn’t prevented Quick taking steps toward realizing his potential St. Louis saw when drafting him. Davis has excelled at throwing the ball down field, compiling a 122 passer rating on passes longer than 10 yards. Quick has been a recipient of 12 of those 26 completions.
But it isn’t just Quick who stands out to Fangio in St. Louis passing game.
“The whole receiving corps is very impressive and a versatile group,” he said. “They’ve got two really fast guys in (Chris) Givens and (Tavon) Austin. And then you’ve got Quick and (Kenny) Britt, who are size guys. They’ve got good receiving tight ends. It’s a good receiving group.”
Even with Davis, who came into the season as third on the QB depth chart, the Rams have the league’s sixth-ranked passing attack, averaging 284 yards per game.
“He understands the offense, this is his third year in the system now,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said on a conference call this week. “This is his first opportunity this year to play with the supporting cast. He’s trusting them, they’re making plays for him, and he’s got a good feel for what he’s doing. He’s got some mobility, he can extend plays, move around the pocket, you need to be able to do that these days.”
The last time the 49ers faced a backup quarterback, the Cardinals Drew Stanton burned them in a loss Week 3 with a pair of third-quarter touchdown passes.
Facing a backup quarterback can be a disadvantage for a defense without a strong sample of game tape to pull information from.
“Fortunately, he’s played the last three games for them. And he came in the first game, too, at some point,” Fangio said. “So, really we’ve got as much tape on him as we would have if the other guy had still been the quarterback.”
San Francisco has strung together a pair of strong defensive efforts since that game against the Eagles and Chiefs, allowing just one touchdown pass – a bubble screen to Kansas City tight end Travis Kelce (De’Anthony Thomas’ touchdown in the third quarter last week has since been ruled a rushing touchdown).
Quick has done the majority of his damage in the middle of the field, where he could line up against rookie nickel corner Jimmie Ward. At 6’4″, quick shares a similar stature to Brandon Marshall, who beat Ward for three touchdown’s in Week 2’s loss to the Bears.
But Ward has shown incremental improvement since that game, his second in the NFL.
“(Ward) took ownership of those plays. They were tough plays,” Fangio said. “He’s not the first guy that’s given up a play to that guy in particular, especially in that part of the field. And he learned from it and moved on.”
October 10, 2014 at 10:20 pm in reply to: Player vids & articles: Quick, Will Herring, Davis, Donald, Saffold, Watts #9444
znModeratorHerring excited for opportunity with Rams
By Nate Latsch
http://stl.scout.com/story/1462355-herring-excited-for-opportunity-with-rams
ST. LOUIS — There were good things and bad things for Will Herring about being out of football for the first time since seventh grade. He was excited to spend more time with his family, but watching the NFL go on without him for the first time in eight seasons was tough.
“I still knew I wanted to play and I knew I could play,” said Herring, who signed with the Rams this week to contribute on special teams and be a reserve linebacker. “So I’m excited to be here. I know these coaches, these scouts, know what they are doing when they are evaluating and they wouldn’t have brought me on board if they didn’t think I could help this team, so I’m just excited to help out.”
Herring, 31, has made his living on special teams since the Seattle Seahawks selected him in the fifth round of the 2007 draft out of Auburn. After four seasons with the Seahawks, he played three years with the New Orleans Saints, including being there special teams captain in 2013.
The veteran linebacker’s reputation preceded him at Rams Park, coach Jeff Fisher said following Thursday’s practice. The organization thought he’d be a good fit to fill the role of recently released second-year linebacker Ray Ray Armstrong.
“He could be plugged in any place on our special teams, our big four because he’s done everything,” Fisher said. “He’s got the respect. He automatically walks in and has the respect of the room because people that played against him know. They know what he’s capable of doing. He understands hard work and he’s going to prepare himself.”
The 6-foot-3, 241-pounder said he got a phone call on Monday to come work out in St. Louis on Tuesday.
Herring said the Rams worked out four players, running them through drills, and later that day signed two of them, Herring to the 53-man roster and Marshall McFadden, a first-year player out of South Carolina State, to the 10-member practice squad.
Herring signed with the Dallas Cowboys this offseason but his contract was terminated after the team expressed concerns about a previous injury.
“There’s no hard feelings against them,” Herring said. “I got there and they were concerned about a knee injury that happened seven years ago. I hadn’t missed time since I came back six years ago. I was kind of taken aback. But honestly it wasn’t meant to be. This is where God had me in store and so I’m just thrilled to be here.”
Herring said he was one of about 10 players who worked out for the Tennessee Titans a few weeks ago, but the team only signed one. So the veteran linebacker had to wait for his next opportunity.
His opportunity here also reunites him with Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who was Herring’s defensive coordinator in his first season with the Saints.
“A lot of the terminology is the same,” Herring said. “We’re still running some of the base stuff. There are some new stuff mixed in, so I’m still learning some of the new stuff, but it definitely has helped in the transition.”
The veteran will be counted on right away to contribute on special teams, something he did well in 2013 in his final season with the Saints. He ranked second on the squad with 12 special teams tackles, forced a fumble and also recorded an interception.
“That’s what they’ve communicated to me,” Herring said. “They want me to come in and help out on the core four special teams. That’s kind of what I’ve made a living doing for the last seven years and I’m just excited to be where I am and do what I’ve done.”
Herring has the right mentality to succeed in that spot.
“Everybody has got a job in here,” he said, “whether it’s to be the starting quarterback and the guy that touches the ball every time or if you’re a guy that may not get a lot of credit and you just have to grind like these guys in the trenches, these o-linemen, and special teams guys we take a lot of pride in doing the dirty work and the behind the scenes opening up running lanes for some of our talented returners. But it’s been a lot of fun, though.”
znModeratorOne key issue is an inexperienced, still learning qb going against a top defense.
A couple of ideas on where Davis needs to improve (and who knows how soon he will):
* the mobility idea aside, actually, running/mobile qbs get sacked more, not less. Numbers back that up. The way to beat the rush is to see where the pressure is coming from and get rid of the ball. Davis is not that good at that yet. He took sacks in both the Vikes game and Eagles game that an experienced qb wouldn’t, just simply by seeing where the pressure was going to come from and throwing out of trouble on the quick or by audibling out of the play.
* Related to that…Davis is not yet good enough when blitzed. His completion % etc. goes down.
* Davis needs to become more confident and settled down in clutch situations at the end of the game. He’s been in 3 such situations so far and twice threw drive-killing passes. Will that come with experience? Yes it could. But till you see it there’s no guarantee.
It IS true that Davis can trust his receivers more than Clemens or Bradford could so there are plays there to be made that weren;t there in previous years. That comes from Cook stepping up some, Quick stepping up a lot, and the addition of Britt.
BUT.
They don’t need Davis to be Andrew Luck to win. Cut way back on special teams mistakes and defensive mistakes, and Davis is in the role of contributing to a smart tough game, instead of having everything put on him. That’s the way it’s supposed to go. You’re not supposed to put the entire game on the back of a guy without experience, no matter how good he is or potentially is.
znModeratorKevin Demoff
Friday, October 10, 2014
AM 920 Tim McKernan.=========
Big Sid
After some very appropriate probing, Kevin told Tim, there are no active discussions with other cities. (I think that was major.) That would refute that the Rams are likely to be playing somewhere else next year. I also love that right after the interview, Tim stayed on topic, even inviting listeners to comment, rather than moving right on to another topic. Tim has a great “feel” for the listener, and I just wanted to say how much I appreciated his work, today.
Tim also asked some great follow ups about what the Rams actually want for the stadium. Kevin said that the Dome itself it still an option; as well as locations in the county. All options are open. Never heard him say this before.
And I also appreciate Kevin Demoff. I realize he is quite restricted in what he can say, and I realize that they are posturing for the stadium, but Kevin was a little more transparent today and I felt he was more empathetic about how we, the fans, feel.
Tim kept Kevin on topic for more than 20 minutes. Tim asked exactly the right questions, and the right follow up questions. I actually feel better today about the Rams than I did yesterday. I liked the tone today. I liked and appreciated the way that Tim spoke much more for the fan base than just being a media guy. And I think it came off quite well, in a polite, but very meaningful and powerful way, to Kevin. I sensed that Kevin “got it” today and has a better understanding of what the silence and lack of response is doing to make things much worse for the Rams.
Thank you Tim and Kevin for the 20 minutes today. Much better than the interview yesterday on 101. Today was more meaningful.
• No conversations in progress with any other cities. I think that was the most significant item.
• The Dome would still be a consideration.
• Definitely got the impression that they really want to stay if they can get a stadium for football, concerts, final fours, etc. It’s not like they have given up on this.
• Demoff totally expects the situation to get worse before it gets better but he came off like he’s optimistic it will end well, as it did in Minnesota.
• Demoff reiterated that Stan Kroenke didn’t intend to lead the charge out of St. Louis. (And it seems he still doesn’t.)
• Tim did a great job saying to Kevin repeatedly that Stan’s silence is what makes the fan base so nervous, and when Kevin retreated to that’s the same way Stan is in Denver, and with the Arsenal fans, Tim clearly said but that’s not the same situation, because no one is threatening to move those teams! Nice job Tim!
znModeratorDidnt you say a while back
that Shelley had written another
monster story? Am i remembering that
correctly? What was the name of it?w
vWell it depends on what you mean by “monster story.” She did write other stories with supernatural elements in them. They’re all short stories. The one I think you you have in mind has supernatural elements and a deformed critter causing harm. It’s called “Transformation.”
https://php.radford.edu/~webofmind/wiki/index.php?title=Transformation%2C_a_Tale
znModeratorRams VP, COO Kevin Demoff talks about Los Angeles
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2014/10/10/6957479/st-louis-rams-los-angelesKirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
Executive Vice President of Football Operations & Chief Operating Officer Kevin Demoff hopped on 101ESPN to discuss the elephant in the room.
Kevin Demoff is the public face of the Rams’ business operations. He interacts with fans. He’s on Twitter (sparsely, but nonetheless). He’s out in front, capturing the good the team does for the community and, in all, being a good guy.
So yesterday on 101 ESPN’s “The Fast Lane”, Demoff joined hosts Randy Karraker, D’Marco Farr to talk about the biggest long-term issue for the franchise: where to call home.
Here’s the meat:
Karraker: There are concerns obviously that Rams fans have. A couple of weeks ago, I gave my opinion that I thought a decision had been made to attempt to move this team out of St. Louis into Los Angeles. Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports has reported the same thing. Jason Cole of Bleacher Report, a very established NFL writer. Sam Farmer has said that the Rams have one foot out the door. Has indeed a decision been made by Stan Kroenke to try to move this team?
Demoff: There has been no decision made. There is no done deal. There is nothing like that. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but I also read yesterday Jason Cole said the Raiders just took our spot in the NFC West and I guess we’re going to the AFC West…
…I think, you know, there’s a lot of rumor. There’s a lot of innuendo, and it’s just that. And I think it’s going to remain that way until Los Angeles gets solved period by any team or whether it gets solved. Sitting at the league meeting yesterday, it’s clear that, you know, while the league is taking a more active look at the market that there is nothing solved or moving forward. There’s just, you know, increased activity which has been the same case I think if you talked to anybody for the last 20 years [author’s note: I couldn’t catch the end of this]…
Karraker: …with all of these reports, there’s an awful lot of smoke, and the lease is up. Does Stan Kroenke have an eye on putting his team in Los Angeles?
Demoff: I think our focus is on, you know, playing through the rest of the lease and seeing how things play out…
Karraker: Kevin, do you have any idea what it would take to get the Rams to commit to staying in St. Louis?
Demoff: Well, I think overall Randy it goes back to what we’ve always talked about: a global solution for St. Louis on a stadium front. A stadium that brings great events back to St. Louis, that brings Mizzou-Illinois, that bring Final Fours. You’ve heard me say this before. It’s also gotta be a solution that works for the community. It’s not just a Rams issue…
…I know everybody can sit here and say, especially this weekend, “The building can rock like it did in 1999,” which is absolutely true. If we play better football, it will be loud, passionate. But in terms of getting people off the couch away from television which is a fight that everybody in the NFL is going through and everybody in sports is going through, how do we improve the fan experience and give them the best? I think that’s the solution. If we can come up with it whether it’s downtown, whether it’s in the county, whether it’s somewhere else, I think we’d be in favor of it.
It’s about a stadium, folks. That’s it. If the Rams are going to stay in St. Louis, it won’t be in the Edward Jones Dome.
Give the whole interview a listen. It’s good stuff from Karraker and Farr.
And yes, D’Marco, we hate the Niners as much as you do.
znModeratorHe was signed [ie. as a rookie] then cut by the Rams, then spent most of the 2012 season on Miami’s practice squad.
Poor Sam Farmer can’t get his facts right.
Heck all he had to do was read the wikipedia entry:
Davis went undrafted in the 2012 NFL Draft and signed a free agent deal with the St. Louis Rams. On August 30, 2013, Davis was cut by the Rams.
The Miami Dolphins signed Davis to their practice squad on September 10, 2013. Davis spent a very brief tenure in the Miami Dolphins organization, only to be cut and re-signed to the Rams a month or so later.
Davis re-signed with the Rams on October 22, 2013, after an injury to Sam Bradford.
znModeratorSam Farmer
Los Angeles Timeshttp://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-surprises-farmer-20141010-column.html
Austin Davis, QB, St. Louis: Although the Rams are 1-3, Davis has the most spectacularly improbable story of the season so far.
He was a walk-on at Southern Mississippi, wound up playing four years and breaking most of Brett Favre’s passing records. He went undrafted in 2012 — at least by the NFL — but was selected in the 32nd round of the baseball draft by the Boston Red Sox.
He was signed, then cut by the Rams, then spent most of the 2012 season on Miami’s practice squad. The Dolphins eventually cut him too, and Davis briefly worked as a volunteer football coach at Westminster Christian Academy in suburban St. Louis. The Rams circled back and re-signed him after starting quarterback Sam Bradford suffered a season-ending knee injury last October.
Two months ago, Davis was the Rams’ fourth-string quarterback, and it looked as if he probably wouldn’t make the final roster. Because of injuries and opportunities, though, he moved up the ranks and recently was named the starter for the rest of the season.
He has been a bright spot for St. Louis, completing 67.8% of his passes for 1,129 yards, with a respectable passer rating of 96.8, 10th among regular starters and better than Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Drew Brees and others.
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znModeratorJlowe22
Location: South MississippiI’ll be pulling for you guys now, as a Southern Miss and Austin Davis fan. I’m glad to see him finally get his shot, he was a beast at USM.
I didn’t watch all of his games, but the ones I did watch I wasn’t impressed with his arm strength on the deep ball. He was a bit of a dual threat, but that doesn’t mean much in C-USA I suppose. He was great in the pocket and knew how to win ball games, which I believe are traits that can transcend conference. He look really accurate on the short-intermediate type throws. As far as if he was better with seam routes, outside routes, etc, I can’t answer that as I didn’t break his play down enough to do so. I do know that Southern Miss ran a CRAP LOAD of plays from shotgun.
I don’t know if “gunslinger” is the right word for him, but against better competition he quite possibly could have been labeled as such.
He certainly put up big numbers, and for those that don’t know, broke or almost broke all of Favre’s passing records at USM.
znModeratorGood questions. Who knows.
Oddly, they may be deep at corner.
znModeratorzn wrote:</div>
Note: the author of the original post in this thread has since deleted it on the board where he first posted it.Are you saying the new team owner
wont be PaRam, and the team
is definitely, for-certain,
NOT moving to Allentown Pa ?Because, if you are,
then I’m confused.w
vI am not at liberty to say one way or another, at the moment.

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