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February 13, 2015 at 12:32 pm in reply to: Ask Dolphins, Titans why splurging on free agents is a losing strategy #18423
znModeratorBut you CAN fill holes with FAs. And astute roster building can get great value out of modest signings. A great example is William Hayes. We’ve been bad for a decade. But there were years when we’d have been far WORSE without a solid vet like Hayes.
I would say the Rams have done better with mid- and low-market FAs than they have with high market FAs.
It’s interesting to compare that to the Vermeil Rams. First, I wanta say, as much as we attributed a lot of the success in 99 to Armey, I have thought for years now that that was Vermeil…or at least Armey did better with Vermeil than he did since.
Lyght: inherited draft pick
McCleon: Vermeil draft pick
Bush: mid-market FA
Jenkins: Vermeil UDFA
Collins: mid-market FA
Fletcher: Vermeil UDFA
Jones: mid-market FA
Wistrom: Vermeil draft pick
Farr: inherited UDFA
Agnew: high-market FA
Carter: inherited draft pickPace: Vermeil draft pick
Nutten: low-market FA
Gruttadauria: inherited scrap-heap find
Timmerman: high-market FA
Miller: inherited draft pick
Williams: Vermeil draft pick
Green: high-market FA
Warner: Vermeil scrap-heap find
Bruce: inherited draft pick
Holt: Vermeil draft pick
Hakim: Vermeil draft pick
Proehl: mid-market FA
Faulk: tradeBTW, on another issue? The OL in 99 had a total of 2 missed starts. Nutten missed 2 games.
February 13, 2015 at 9:35 am in reply to: Grayson, Hundley, Petty, Carden etc. … the qbs this year #18417
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Jim Thomas @jthom1Food for thought? Jeff Garcia has worked w/East Carolina QB Shane Carden, whom Rams talked to at Senior Bowl.
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ACC Insider
Carden makes most of limited Senior Bowl opportunity
Saturday, January 24, 2015
http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/45999/carden-makes-most-of-limited-senior-bowl-opportunity/
Shane Carden didn’t get much of an opportunity to show what he could do at the Senior Bowl on Saturday. But at least he made the most of his three second half possessions.
The East Carolina quarterback, who split time under center with Baylor’s Bryce Petty and Oregon State’s Sean Mannion, completed four of nine passes for 70 yards while rushing once for six yards and a first down to help the North team to a 34-13 victory at Ladd-Peebles Stadium in Mobile, Ala.
Carden needed a strong showing to salvage his draft prospects after an unimpressive week of practice. Although his action was limited, he did lead his team to a touchdown, a field goal and a field goal attempt while amassing an efficiency rating of 141.1 rating — the highest of any quarterback on either team.
znModeratorOffseason in Review: DT Alex Carrington –Wagoner
The 2015 edition of NFL free agency is set to begin on March 10 with a new batch of players set to hit the market and teams in pursuit of those players.Some articles never get posted on the board.
Like this one.
So we avoided the Great Carrington Debate.

znModeratorBoth listings say 2013. Which is 2014? I hope it’s the top one because it’s a little better.
Oops, typo. Thnx. Fixed.
Yep the better one was 2014.
Interesting that Bailey has yet to play a full season. He was held back early in 2013, then suspended early in 2014.
znModeratorRams Promote Two Offensive Assistants
By Myles Simmons Rams Insider @MylesASimmons
The Rams’ search for an offensive coordinator has come to an end, as the franchise has promoted two of its offensive assistants. Quarterbacks coach Frank Cignetti will take over as the offensive coordinator, and tight ends coach Rob Boras will serve as assistant head coach/offense.
In their new roles, Cignetti will call the plays and lead the coaches through game planning and installments. While continuing to coach the tight ends, Boras will assist in overseeing the entire offense with an emphasis on the run game.
Coming off his third season leading St. Louis’ QBs, Cignetti has a coaching resumé that spans two decades of work in both the college and NFL ranks. In 2014, he helped coach Austin Davis to consecutive 300-yard, three-touchdown performances — a first for the franchise since Kurt Warner accomplished the feat in 2001. Back in his first year with the Rams, 2012, quarterback Sam Bradford set new career highs in yards passing (3,702), touchdown passes (21), and passer rating (82.5).
“Frank has been a key asset to our staff over the last three years and I’m confident that he’ll do a great job leading our offense in this new role,” head coach Jeff Fisher said in a statement. “He’s done a great job in some difficult circumstances and he brings a great body of work as a play caller at some significant college programs. Our players know and respect Frank, and I believe we’ll benefit from the continuity he’ll provide.”
Prior to his arrival in St. Louis, Cignetti spent time as the offensive coordinator at Rutgers, Pitt, and Cal. He also spent a year as the 49ers quarterbacks coach in 2007. Before that, he was the offensive coordinator at North Carolina and Fresno State.
Cignetti got his start in the NFL as a quality control assistant with the Chiefs in 1999, and served as the Saints’ quarterbacks coach from 2000-01. His father, Frank Cignetti Sr., was a longtime head coach for Indiana University of Pennsylvania — a D-II school — where he led the team to 13 postseason appearances. The junior Cignetti was on his father’s staff from 1990-98.
Boras also arrived with Fisher in 2012, coaching up key contributors like Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, and Cory Harkey at the tight end position. Last season, Cook led the Rams with 52 receptions, and Kendricks had a team-high five receiving touchdowns.
In all, the 44-year-old Boras has spent 11 years in the NFL. Having served as an offensive assistant for DePauw, Texas, and UNLV, as well as a one-year stint as Benedictine University’s head coach, Boras got his NFL start as the tight ends coach under Lovie Smith with the Bears in 2004. During his six seasons in Chicago, Boras helped the Bears earn a trip to Super Bowl XLI. In 2009, the Bears’ tight ends led the NFL in receiving touchdowns (13), and in 2008 Greg Olsen and Desmond clark had 95 receptions — the highest total for a tight end duo in franchise history.
Following his stint with the Bears, Boras spent two years as the Jaguars’ tight ends coach, leading Marcedes Lewis to his first Pro Bowl selection in 2010. That year, Lewis had 58 receptions for 700 yards and 10 receiving touchdowns — tying a franchise record.
“Rob is a tremendous teacher and he’s done a great job with our tight ends,” Fisher said. “His expanded role is sure to make us better as an offense.”
By keeping the promotions in house, both Cignetti and Boras have an advantage of not only knowing the Rams’ personnel, but the teams and players within the division as well.
znModeratoris it me or was that interview useless?
just a bunch of non-answers. although i guess i shouldn’t have expected anything concrete. doesn’t matter as long as there are real results on the field.
It was useless. He won’t be the media presence either Schott was (Schott was not charismatic but had some sophistication to him) or Wms is. In fact Cigz is kinda the anti-Wms.
But…(as you know) that doesn’t mean he can’t be a good coordinator.
February 12, 2015 at 10:33 pm in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18396
znModeratorRamBill dug this up….
Phil Savage @SeniorBowlPhil
Had an unbelievably impressive interview with Duke OG Laken Tomlinson @SiriusXMNFL. Double major, 323lbs and future NFL starter.
February 12, 2015 at 10:30 pm in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18395
znModeratorDone.
February 12, 2015 at 10:21 pm in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18392
znModeratorSD, mind if I move this to the combine thread?
znModeratorFrom what I can tell (after just a kwik browse) this guy seems to think of it as just a one year.
To me that doesn’t make much sense.
If you toss in roster bonuses (he seems to mention only incentives) you can make it an extension, not a 1-year.
Same effect: he gets money if he can play, and if he can’t the team is not hampered by significant cap damage.
But the advantage of an extension is that you don’t end up in this position where (a) he proves he can play, but (b) you have to sign him again.
znModeratorJohn Robinson’s 80’s lines were also very good and underrated. Doug Smith, Jackie Slater, Irv Pankey, Kent Hill, Dennis Harrah and Tom Newberry (Kent Hill too) They also had tight ends that could block too….
Yeah…he only really remarks on the 70s lines.
I posted this earlier but it’s worth repeating.
There is at least one Ram lineman in the pro bowl every single season from 1967 until 1990. In fact the 68 line had 4 pro bowlers, as did the 78 line and the 85 line. That’s 12 different pro-bowl lineman across 24 consecutive years.
February 12, 2015 at 9:23 pm in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18377
znModeratorIsn’t it possible that a lot of the tackles here could be selected as guards?
Like Dennis Harrah was.
February 12, 2015 at 4:17 pm in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18374
znModeratorPHil Savage starting 5 oline senior bowl
http://www.seniorbowl.com/news-highlights-detail.php?news=286
Executive Director Phil Savage spent 20 years in the National Football League as a coach, scout, executive and general manager. Prior to the Combine, he will evaluate the Reese’s Senior Bowl practice sessions, position-by-position, for both the North and South squads.
Here is his analysis of the offensive linemen based on the Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday practices.
‘STARTING FIVE’
With 20 total linemen on both squads, these are the five who had the best weeks at their respective positions and would deserve All-Senior Bowl recognition.
DONOVAN SMITH PENN STATE 6056 341 34 1/4 10 1/2
This 4th year junior graduate elevated his game in Mobile after having a subpar campaign in 2014. Although he could stand to drop 10lbs or so, he has size, athletic ability and the skillset needed to play left tackle in the NFL. With his long arms and re-direct agility, if he will truly get serious about his craft, Donovan could have a long pro career.1-on-1 Pass Pro: Wins: 7 Losses: 3
Senior Bowl Scoop: Since 2013, 4th year juniors who graduate before December 31 have been allowed to participate in the game. Donovan and teammate Deion Barnes both met the criteria and joined a list of six total players that have taken advantage of this exemption. Donovan hails from Owings Mills, MD, the practice facility home of the Baltimore Ravens.TRE JACKSON FLORIDA STATE 6037 323 32 1/8 11 1/8
Of the five FSU Seminoles invited to the RSB, Tre was the only one who actually made it to Mobile. He was “king” of the 1-on-1’s by winning all nine of his individual battles against zero defeats. Although he aligned as a RG at Florida State and for most of the week here, his athleticism may warrant a move to LG because of his pulling ability.
1-on-1 Pass Pro: Wins: 9 Losses: 0Senior Bowl Scoop: Tre was selected as the South team’s Most Outstanding Player in the Saturday game after successfully going toe-to-toe with Washington’s Danny Shelton and Iowa’s Carl Davis.MAX GARCIA FLORIDA 6044 305 32 3/4 10 1/4
In a rare occurrence, Max was part of the North team even though he played collegiately for the Gators after transferring from Maryland. He provides length in the pivot and plays with surprising base and balance for a taller center. With his position versatility of having starting experience at both left tackle and left guard, expect Max to be a valuable mid-to-late round selection.1-on-1 Pass Pro: Wins: 6 Losses: 2
Senior Bowl Scoop: Max sat out the 2012 season due to NCAA transfer rules before starting 25 straight games for the Gators as a junior and senior.
LAKEN TOMLINSON DUKE 6032 323 33 1/2 10 1/4
This 5th year senior was a picture of consistency all week because of his knee flexion and upper body strength. He fits the profile of a “power” right guard and appears to be a plug-in and play starter as a rookie. His confrontations with Washington’s Danny Shelton (6016/343) were highlight worthy.1-on-1 Pass Pro: Wins: 9 Losses: 3
Senior Bowl Scoop: The winner of the Alabama Power Practice Award for offensive linemen, Laken is also a standout in the classroom where he graduated as a double major in evolutionary anthropology and psychology.
LA’EL COLLINS LSU 6045 308 33 1/4 10 3/4
A consensus All-SEC and All-American choice in 2014, La’el has all the traits needed to be a blue-chip pro. He has height, long enough arms, a powerful punch and the ability to snap his hips. He went back and forth between LT and LG and didn’t look flawless as a RT, however, he has too much going for him from a talent standpoint not to play early and often for a team in need of a young offensive lineman.1-on-1 Pass Pro- Wins: 4 Losses: 7
Senior Bowl Scoop: Highly recruited five-star prospect from Baton Rouge, he was considered by many to be the best high school offensive lineman to ever come out of the state of Louisiana. La’el won the Jacobs Award for the SEC, spotlighting him as the league’s top blocker.
POTENTIAL ‘STARTER’ UPSIDE
OT #68 T.J. Clemmings/Pittsburgh 6045/307 34 7/8” Arm-10 3/8” Hand
A favorite of the NFL scouts during the regular season, T.J. entered the week with much fanfare as a potential 1st round pick. He only played two years of high school football and did not move to the offensive line until his redshirt junior (2013) season. Still, he has all the physical traits necessary to become a starter in the future. With his long arms, natural athletic skill and positive demeanor, despite looking uncomfortable on certain reps, T.J. flashed more than enough ability for teams to believe they can coach him up as a possible answer at left tackle.
1-on-1 Pass Pro- Wins: 5 Losses: 7
Senior Bowl Scoop: First team All-ACC selection in 2014 after starting 26 consecutive games at right tackle.
OG #50 Ali Marpet/Hobart College 6036/307 32 7/8” Arm-10 1/8” Hand
The only D-III prospect in the RSB, Ali started for three seasons at left tackle before making the conversion inside to guard in Mobile. He has light feet, plays with balance and did not back down at all against the bigger school competition. Arguably the most intriguing player in the game, he is certain to be thoroughly evaluated by all 32 teams because of his position flexibility (he took reps as a center in the QB exchange period) and high ceiling to improve.
1-on-1 Pass Pro- Wins: 5 Losses: 5
Senior Bowl Scoop: Ali was named Liberty League Co-Offensive Player of the Year, the first time in conference history an offensive lineman received that distinction.BLUE COLLAR/LUNCH PAIL PROSPECTS
OT #78 Rob Havenstein/Wisconsin 6073/332 33 5/8” Arm-10” Hand
A card-carrying giant, Rob is a classic right tackle who uses his height and girth to absorb and control defenders. He really understands how to play and wins “ugly” most of the time.
1-on-1 Pass Pro- Wins: 6 Losses: 4
Senior Bowl Scoop: Rob opened 41 consecutive games for the Badgers and played in a school-record matching 54 contests. He blocked for three 1000-yard rushers during his career: Montee Ball, James White and Melvin Gordon.
OG #70 Shaq Mason/Georgia Tech 6015/310 31 1/8” Arm-9 ½” Hand
Maybe the most improved player of the week, Shaq came to Mobile from GT’s option-oriented offense, but adjusted quite well by Thursday and showed the willingness to compete on every snap.
1-on-1 Pass Pro- Wins: 6 Losses: 3
Senior Bowl Scoop: Even though Shaq stands a little over 6’1, his given full name is “Shaquille Olajuwon Mason”. The Yellow Jackets led the nation in rushing yardage per game (342.1) and Shaq was named to several All-ACC and All-American teams.
February 12, 2015 at 4:07 pm in reply to: Ask Dolphins, Titans why splurging on free agents is a losing strategy #18373
znModeratorYeah, it never fails. I can’t remember the last big, expensive signing (outside of the likes of Peyton Manning) that really made a huge difference for a team.
The Rams’ big FA signings have been fairly conservative, and yet they haven’t paid off, either. There’s always a reason a team lets a player get to free agency.
Let’s see how Fisher & co. did.
Big market FAs:
Finnegan. I didn’t like this one.
Langford. He’s fine IMO.
Long. Injuries killed this one.
Wells. Injured man walking. When he can walk.
Cook. I like Cook as part of the mix as a player, but…and I rarely say this… I don;t think he will ever be worth the money.Budger market FAs:
Hayes: Score.
Dunbar. Up and down.
Carrington. Nada.
Williams. Well…better than Joseph…
Joseph. Not as good as Williams.
Britt. Score.
Hill & Clemens. No Jamie Martins here.
February 12, 2015 at 8:54 am in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18361
znModeratorThere are 4 of 5 tackles good enough to play left tackle. They just aren’t good enough to be much more than a top 10 pick. Some of them are being projected to other positions or playing their first year at a different position, especially if you already have a LT.
1 Brandon Scherff 6-5 320 5.15 Iowa X/OG
2 *Andrus Peat 6-6 315 5.25 Stanford
3 La’el Collins 6-5 315 5.15 LSU OG
4 *Ereck Flowers 6-5 325 5.3 Miami
5 T.J. Clemmings 6-5 305 5.15 PittsburghAll of these could be gone between about pick 8 to pick 20 something, Different teams will rate them in different orders. If the kid from ND had come out, he would have been a top 5. imo
How would you rate the year overall for OL in general?
February 12, 2015 at 8:27 am in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18357
znModeratorIs this a strong year for offensive lineman? Or are they just mentioning the best available?
Yeah I would like to hear about that too from the Draft Dedicated types. The vibe I get so far is that it is a deep year for guards and right tackles, and less so for centers and left tackles.
znModeratorI hope the show can somehow maintain the standard he set. No easy task.
If not for the Rams games, I would have already set the tv out for trash pick-up.
znModeratorIn the end, after all the games were played, how did the schedules rank for 2014?
Who played the toughest, who played the easiest?
Added by edit: I asked that…then went and did a simple search, and here it is. From here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000407751/article/2015-nfl-draft-order-top-3-needs-for-all-32-teams
I also bolded the playoff teams.
T = “tied for”
Rank Team Opponent Win Pct.
1. Oakland Raiders .570
2. New York Jets .543)
3. St. Louis Rams .531)
4. Chicago Bears .529)
5. San Francisco 49ers .527)
6. Seattle Seahawks .525)
7. Arizona Cardinals .523)
8. Denver Broncos .521)
9. Buffalo Bills .516)
T10. Jacksonville Jaguars .514)
New England Patriots .514)
T12 New York Giants .512)
Miami Dolphins .512)
San Diego Chargers .512)
Kansas City Chiefs .512)
16. Tennessee Titans .506)
17. Cincinnati Bengals .498)
18. Washington Redskins .496)
T19. Philadelphia Eagles .490)
Carolina Panthers .490)
T21. Tampa Bay Buccaneers .486)
New Orleans Saints .486)
T23. Atlanta Falcons .482)
Green Bay Packers .482)
T25. Indianapolis Colts .479)
Cleveland Browns .479)
T27. Minnesota Vikings .475)
Baltimore Ravens .475)
29. Detroit Lions .471)
30. Pittsburgh Steelers .451)
31. Houston Texans .447)
32. Dallas Cowboys .445…
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February 12, 2015 at 12:30 am in reply to: Rams to interview Jeff Garcia for QB coach position? #18349
znModeratorJeff Garcia to interview for Rams QB coach job Thursday
By Jim Thomas
Jeff Garcia, a four-time Pro Bowl quarterback during an NFL career that began in 1999 with San Francisco and ended in 2011 with Houston, will interview Thursday for the Rams’ quarterbacks coach job.
Garcia coached quarterbacks last season for the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League. Since retiring from the game after the ’11 season, Garcia also has been a mentor and trainer for high school, college, and NFL quarterbacks at Jeff Garcia Football in San Diego.
In recent months, Garcia has let it be known that he was interested in working in the NFL, even lobbying for the Eagles’ quarterbacks coach job on Philadelphia radio last month.
Garcia, who turns 45 on Feb. 24, played in 125 NFL regular-season games over his career with 116 starts with Cleveland, Detroit, and Tampa Bay as well as the stints with the 49ers and Texans. Known as a fierce competitor, Garcia played in postseason games with Philadelphia, San Francisco, and Tampa Bay.
Prior to the NFL, he was a four-time CFL all-star and was named MVP of the Grey Cup in 1998 with the Calgary Stampeders. In 2010, as his career was winding down, he even played for the Omaha Nighthawks of the short-lived United Football League.
If hired, Garcia would take over the QB coach job held by Frank Cignetti the past three season. Cignetti is being promoted to offensive coordinator in a move that is expected to be officially announced by the team at the end of the week
February 11, 2015 at 11:51 pm in reply to: Mock Draft Roundup: Third Edition Posted 14 hours ago Myles Simmons #18345
znModeratorMike Mayock’s position rankings for 2015 NFL Draft
By Mike Mayock
NFL Media draft analystQuarterback
1. Jameis Winston, Florida State
2. Marcus Mariota, Oregon
3. Bryce Petty, Baylor
4. Brett Hundley, UCLA
5. Garrett Grayson, Colorado StateRunning back
1. Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
2. Todd Gurley, Georgia
3. Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska
4. Duke Johnson, Miami (Fla.)
5. Tevin Coleman, IndianaWide receiver
1. Kevin White, West Virginia
2. Amari Cooper, Alabama
3. DeVante Parker, Louisville
4. Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri
5. Devin Funchess, MichiganTight end
1. Maxx Williams, Minnesota
2. Clive Walford, Miami (Fla.)
3. Nick O’Leary, Florida State
4. Tyler Kroft, Rutgers
5. Ben Koyack, Notre DameInterior offensive linemen
1. Brandon Scherff, Iowa
2. Cameron Erving, Florida State
3. Laken Tomlinson, Duke
4. A.J. Cann, South Carolina
5. Tre’ Jackson, Florida StateOffensive tackle
1. T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh
2. Andrus Peat, Stanford
3. La’el Collins, LSU
4. Ereck Flowers, Miami (Fla.)
5t. Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M
5t. D.J. Humphries, FloridaInterior defensive linemen
1. Leonard Williams, USC
2. Danny Shelton, Washington
3. Malcom Brown, Texas
4. Arik Armstead, Oregon
5t. Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
5t. Eddie Goldman, Florida StateEdge rusher
1. Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida
2. Randy Gregory, Nebraska
3. Shane Ray, Missouri
4. Vic Beasley, Clemson
5. Bud Dupree, KentuckyLinebacker
1. Paul Dawson, TCU
2. Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State
3. Denzel Perryman, Miami (Fla.)
4. Eric Kendricks, UCLA
5. Stephone Anthony, ClemsonCornerback
1. Trae Waynes, Michigan State
2. Marcus Peters, Washington
3. Jalen Collins, LSU
4. P.J. Williams, Florida State
5. Kevin Johnson, Wake ForestSafety
1. Landon Collins, Alabama
2. Shaq Thompson, Washington
3. Derron Smith, Fresno State
4. Jaquiski Tartt, Samford
5. Ibraheim Campbell, Northwestern
znModeratorBrowns owner says team didn’t know about Johnny Manziel’s personal life
By Frank Schwab
Jimmy Haslam must not have access to the Internet. That’s really the only way to explain how the Cleveland Browns’ owner could have not known about Johnny Manziel’s off-field red flags when the team drafted him in the first round last year. Here’s what Haslam said about Manziel during a press conference on Wednesday:
“I don’t know how much of Johnny’s personal life was known by everybody then,” Haslam said, according ot the Akron Beacon-Journal.
Come on.
There’s two ways to view that quote: Either Haslam is lying or the Browns are the worst organization in sports. For the sake of Cleveland fans, don’t answer that.
Manziel’s penchant for going out was a massive story when he was at Texas A&M and leading up to the draft as well. Here’s a passage from ESPN.com’s Wright Thompson’s story on Manziel, from July 30, 2013. This was written by Thompson nine months before the Browns drafted Manziel, with references to Manziel’s father Paul and Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin:
“Paul thinks Johnny drinks to deal with the stress. After his arrest, Johnny’s parents and Sumlin mandated he visit an alcohol counselor; Johnny saw him six or seven weeks during the season.”
Dr. Saturday wrote extensively about Manziel’s life in the spotlight. Everyone did. The extent of Manziel’s issues that caused him to check into a treatment facility might not have been clear, but if Haslam and the Browns’ front office didn’t know anything about Manziel’s off-field life, they were the only ones in the football world who were unaware.
But that’s practically inconsequential going forward. The Browns invested a first-round pick into Manziel just a year ago and want to make it work. And Haslam said he thinks it can work.
“It’s way too early to give up on Johnny,” Haslam said, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “We certainly haven’t given up on him. Everybody’s been too harsh.”
Haslam said he didn’t know when Manziel would return to the team, but he supported his decision to go to rehab.
It would be enormous for the Browns franchise if Manziel can become a franchise quarterback. And the Browns franchise could use some good news.
The Browns have a lot of issues but one of the most pressing ones is the NFL investigation into Browns general manager Ray Farmer sending texts to the sideline during games. The messages were relayed to the coaches on the sideline, and that’s not allowed by the NFL. The punishment could be as harsh as the loss of a draft pick.
“He said he feels he made a mistake in sending those texts,” Haslam said, via the Plain Dealer. “But it does not affect his standing with the club. I don’t think Ray intended to gain an unfair advantage.”
znModeratorJust seems like a trade-up,
or trade-down, is more likely-than-not,
to me.Yeah I agree.
February 11, 2015 at 6:18 pm in reply to: Dirt is turning in Inglewood; Stadium up next? … and other relocation stuff #18337
znModeratorfrom off the net
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twilson2000
Jason La Canfora: “Kroenke doesn’t need a handout from the NFL.”
CBS Sports NFL insider Jason La Canfora joined The Home Team this morning, after the NFL formed a committee and drafted a memo to help plan the future of the league in Los Angeles, to talk about what that move means and how it will affect Stan Kroenke’s plan to build a stadium in Inglewood and move the Rams back to L.A.
In the end, Stan Kroenke doesn’t need the NFL’s money, he doesn’t need their land, he doesn’t need public money. He doesn’t really need a handout from anyone, he doesn’t need a G4 loan, and I think, in the end, that will carry the day here regardless of memos, and reminders, and protocol [from the NFL].Click here to listen…… http://kfwbam.com/2015/02/10/jason-la-canfora-kroenke-doesnt-need-a-handout-from-the-nfl/
The Home Team is L.A.’s only local morning sports show, and can be heard weekdays from 5:30am-9am on your new home for sports, The Beast 980.
February 11, 2015 at 6:16 pm in reply to: Dirt is turning in Inglewood; Stadium up next? … and other relocation stuff #18336
znModeratorPeacock and Blitz keep working, progressing
By Bernie Miklasz
St. Louis stadium task-force leaders Dave Peacock and Bob Blitz continue to make progress on the attempt to develop a new football-soccer stadium on the north riverfront.
First, Peacock and Blitz hired stadium consultant John Loyd, who brings established credibility to the St. Louis project.
Next, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon came to the proposed stadium site Tuesday to announce a tentative agreement with Ameren Missouri and the Terminal Railroad Association to clear space on the stadium grounds. The railroad will reroute some tracks, and Ameren will move some power lines.
The announcement wasn’t a blockbuster in that it didn’t ignite the “hot take” bellowing that arouses the short attention span crowd. But the news was important. You can’t build a stadium without first buying the property, and you can’t purchase or prepare the property if it isn’t clear and free. Building a stadium there would be impossible if Ameren and the railroad balked at the request to relocate infrastructure.
As sports consultant Marc Ganis told sports-radio station 920-AM: “Very significant. There was always the subtext of whether the site could be acquired or not. The fact that that is being done, without having to force people to do it, does two things. It locks up the site and it demonstrates that cooperation is taking place. Both are positive signs.”
Peacock and Blitz continue to check the necessary boxes.
That’s all they can do: take care of business, one goal at a time.
Peackcock and Blitz are racing against the clock; the NFL wants “actionable” development on the STL stadium plan by the end of the year. But the Peacock and Blitz can’t make everything happen in 30 seconds. This is a long process. And at least so far Peacock and Blitz are methodically moving the chains.
I’m not sure why anyone would expect them to go about this differently. But that’s the wait it works in today’s culture. We want a resolution — thumbs up, thumbs down — and WE WANT IT RIGHT NOW!
That’s not realistic. When we’re talking about building a second new stadium for the NFL here in 23 years, there’s no way to fast-forward the project. There are too many boxes to check.
In my opinion, Peackcock and Blitz are progressing more quickly than I anticipated. This doesn’t mean they’ll succeed; this doesn’t mean the Rams are staying; this doesn’t mean the Oakland Raiders will be moving to St. Louis.
It just means that after two highly capable and ambitious individuals agreed to lead a stadium initiative, they’ve stayed on course and have managed to keep the process moving forward.
This would be a good thing, yes?
You would think so.
It’s funny …
Peacock and Blitz were absent when Nixon spoke on Tuesday. This, of course, was interpreted by some as an ominous sign. Here’s an email that popped up yesterday:
Peacock and Blitz weren’t there. What does that tell you? They didn’t stand with the governor. They stayed as far away from the scene as possible. Obviously, Peacock and Blitz know this stadium plan is doomed to fail, and they’re already distancing themselves. This entire thing is a joke!
You could see similar snippets of wisdom on Twitter.
So where were Peacock and Blitz? Why weren’t they standing with Nixon?
Well, they were meeting with NFL executive VP Eric Grubman.
Grubman was in town (again) to confer with Peacock and Blitz on the stadium. Rams chief operating officer Kevin Demoff was involved in the meetings.
And after completing the news conference, Nixon joined the private discussions with Grubman, Demoff and the task force.
In other words … instead of wasting time, Peacock and Blitz were staying busy on the stadium issue — keeping the NFL fully apprised on the progress that’s being made here.
Two guys working quietly on an important project? Imagine that.
znModeratorBeing a predominately passing offense is a predominately passing offense, it doesn’t matter if you do it out of design or not.
I have seen all of the teams I named completely abandon the run for looong stretches of times and be one-dimensional.
Defenses don’t care IF you can’t run, or don’t wanna run.
They play what you do.
Talking about the quality of the receivers, is a different discussion.
Well the Rams in the 1st 4 games of 2013 did pass out of design…but they also intended to run. But they COULDN’T run with Richardson. Defenses can concentrate on stopping the pass if they know you cannot run even if you try. That was the case in early 2014. Therefore it’s not a matter of what defenses do, in this case it’s a matter of what you make them do…and the Rams are better on offense when they make them play the run too. Even if they can play the run, the threat of course helps (so for example that same year Carolina contained Stacy but in the process it made it easier to throw on them).
Given the nature of the receivers–a green Tavon, a regressing Givens, a pedestrian Pettis, a Bailey who wasn’t ready yet–it wasn’t that hard to contain. (I think it’s also true that that offense wasn’t going to work with a left OT whose strength was run blocking and was really a play-action player).
I kinda called that before the season. My take was, the receivers were too green to run a spread–that was too sophisticated for the group as a whole. They had done it the year before against Seattle in the final game, but at least then they had a couple of veteran receivers (Gibson and DA) plus a running threat in Jackson.
So anyway as to 2013, we agree they couldn’t block it, we agree (for different but not mutually exclusive reasons) that the receivers couldn’t make it work, I just think that not being able to run hurt too.
February 11, 2015 at 5:27 pm in reply to: Insider Buzz: NFL Teams Want Sam Bradford, If Released, over Mariota & Winston #18334
znModeratorIt’s really disappointing that we have NOBODY waiting in the wings.
How many teams do?
Rams struck gold in 98-2002 when they had Green, Warner, Bulger.
But let’s say Eli, Flacco, or Brees go out. Who is behind them?
znModeratorWhat would you say Bradford’s biggest weakness is as a QB,
not counting his injury-proneness ?w
vWell, he has the long ball. He was getting up there in terms of pre-snap reads and figuring defenses out. He didn’t take sacks. He is hot in the redzone. He was one of PFF’s top-ranked play-action passers for the time he played–and I mean top 2-3. He can roll out some. He is smart. When Fisher and Schott were resurrecting the medium and deep medium pass with Britt, he showed he had the lasers to do it. He’s clutch and was getting very good with comebacks and game-winning drives. He’s tough, he’ll stand in there and make throws. He doesn;t throw INTs.
His flaw? Really? To me? It’s that he doesn’t have “magic.” He works from a strong foundation, but when he has to improvise and make something out of nothing, he doesn’t have the spontaneity of say a Rodgers or a Romo or a Brady.
That doesn’t mean he’s a complete stiff. He has some of that–we’ve seen him do things in the redzone that came from improvising.
Some say his pocket awareness but I think he’s better at that than some give him credit for. Just not tops, a la Brady. I would say he’s “okay” at that.
And, another minor thing…his touch on short passes is a bit iffy.
He has to improve on 3rd down. I don’t think there’s any particular reason he can’t or won’t (if he can play).
To me he’s Flacco and Eli in their best years.
znModeratorThat’s a good take and one I failed to mention. However we have seen offenses be successful in the spread with very little running.
GB, NE, Denver, Pitt have all done it.
Four games was not a large enough sample size IMO.
Have to disagree. First, every single one of those teams had more at receiver than the Rams did in 2013. What talent they did have was green to the max, and that includes Bailey not hitting the field yet.
And if you listed all the RBs in the discussion, from those 4 teams combined with the Rams, Richardson is by far the worst of them.
Remember, I didn’t say the Rams DIDN’T run with Richardson…I said they couldn’t. What’s more, defenses knew it. They knew they could defend the run against the Rams without spending any special effort at all. Advantage, defense.
Against ATL and SF, for example, DR had 51 yards on 22 carries.
znModeratorThis has me thinking about Bradford. Let’s say he’s like that Carolina LB, Davis, who could play after 3 ACLs.
One of the darker motifs running through the last 25 “back-up qb” Rams games is the bad, game-losing goal-line performances. Clemens v. Seattle, Hill v. SD.
Bradford was good inside the 10. It was a strength. And that was without the New Improved Quick, without Bailey yet, and without Britt.
The 23 games he played in 2012/13, he had 23 TDs on 49 attempts inside 10. That’s 47% (rounded up 0.1%)
To give some perspective on that, last year, if you look at guys with 20 or more attempts, the NFL leaders in percentage of TDs inside the 10 were
Carr (62.5%)
Romo (54.5%)
Ryan (48%)
Luck (47.6%)
Brees (47%)
Brady (46.2%)
Newton (43%)
Eli Manning (40.8%)
Rivers (37.5%)
Rodgers (36%)
Peyton Manning (34.7%)
Cutler (34.3%)
Tannenhill (34.1%)
Smith (33.3%)
Stafford (32.4%)
Flacco (31.3%)
Wilson (28.6%)
Roethlisberger (27.1%)And in Bradford’s case, that was basically without a running threat inside the 10 half the time….or to be more precise, with a very weak running threat inside the 10 in 2013. Jackson himself in 2012 had 4 TDs on 15 attempts, which is actually a decent 26.7%. Combined with Richardson, though,it’s 4 TDs on 19 attempts, which is 21%. Just to give a point of comparison, Marshawn Lynch alone last year had 11 TDs on 29 attempts inside the 10, for 38%. BUT if you look at Richardson and Stacy in 2013, just for the games SB played, Richardson and Stacy combined had 0 TDs on appx 10 attempts. (You can do the play by plays for Stacy with Bradford because it was just 3 games. Stacy had 0 TDs on 7 attempts inside the 10. Richardson had 4 attempts all year and I think only 1 after Stacy took over. Doesn’t matter because 0 of anything is 0%).
znModeratorRamBill: How coveted would Sam Bradford be on the Free Agent Market? ESPN’s Mike Sando talks to Randy Karraker and D’Marco Farr on 101ESPN’s The Fast Lane. Sando thinks there would be a lot of “buzz” for Sam on the open market. The key would be structuring a contract that protects the team from another Bradford injury. (Bradford discussion starts at 4:53)
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