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    I suggest that we stop talking about a power running game until we see them assemble the OL to make one possible.

    Do we know what that is?

    The Rams OL has had a couple of healthy spurts. The 2nd half of 2012, much of 2013. When they had a running threat in there, they ran the ball on the best of them. Just looking at the 2nd half of 2012, Jackson was getting 4.3 a carry. Before the OL eroded with injuries in 2013, Stacy was getting just under 4.1 a carry, and that’s with Clemens at qb for most of those games. So yes they have run the ball effectively enough even without the pieces. Yet my bet is that on paper, those OLs did not impress people.

    And besides, when I personally talk about a power running game, I never think of the Rams as having ever intended to be run run run. It always has been, and always intended to be, a balanced offense, with around 53-55% passing. And I never say “power running team.” And I never say “short passing game” either. What I say is “they use power running and ball control passing and set up big plays” (through play action but also other means too.) Seattle is a run run offense and they passed around 44% of the time. IND is a passing team, and they passed around 60% of the time.

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    Another thing.

    On Foles.

    Foles is consistently very good in the short passing game, but inconsistent so far throwing deep.

    Numbers (plus some watching) say that Foles is very good at the short, ball control passing game AND very good when he gets rid of the ball quickly. If the Fisher offense continues as is, as we know they tend to mix ball control passing and power running and the whole time set up all kinds of big plays. If the ball control passing game is in high form, that obviously makes the set ups more dangerous.

    However, on the long ball, Foles divides in two so far–2013 and 2014 are different. It depends on how much of 2014 was a falling off he can recover from.

    Based on ESPN splits

    In 2013 he was good at the long pass. He was 11 of 23 on passes of 31+ yards or more (47.8%, quite good), with 4TDs and 1 INT.

    In 2014, he was 4 for 21 on passes of 31+ yards or more (19%, very mediocre), with 1TD and 4 INTs.

    PFF does their long ball accuracy differently. As people know they count passes of 20 yards or more.

    In 2013, they have him at 45.5% accuracy, which they rank 13 of 40.

    In 2014, they have him at 35.6% accuracy, which they rank 26 of 39.

    But the main thing with the longer passes in St. Louis IMO will be the receivers. As Mike Martz said, they have not had receivers this good since 2006 or 2007. Not that they’re THAT good (as 2006) but you know what I mean. They were setting things up last year to push the ball downfield more (the receivers being a big part of that), and I think they will continue that.

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    The center, and right side of that o-line, is not inspiring me.

    Yet as horrible as this is…we’ve seen worse.

    Rams OL, latter half of 2011:

    Mark LeVoir LT
    Jason Brown LG
    Tony Wragge C
    Bryan Mattison RG
    Harvey Dahl RT

    To name just one example.

    It;s the injury demon.

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    Titans OL drafted under Fisher… hit rate = 11 of 21, or 52%

    We basically have no idea yet what the hit rate in St, Louis is on drafting OL because the evidence is not in.

    The main advantage with the Oilers/Titans though IMO was that Fisher inherited a line that included Bruce Matthews and Brad Hopkins, which gave them a good line they could develop players behind.

    10 years from now, how will his hit rate on drafting linemen for the Rams look?

    Either way, it would have helped a bunch if he inherited more than just Saffold. He tried to compensate for that by taking the free agent route (Barksdale, Long, Wells) but as we know…injury demon.

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    State of the Rams: they are currently 11 M under the cap according to Thomas and Wagoner. But that’s deceptive. They still have a cut or 2 they can do, plus because the Rams frontload so much, they can tweak contracts to get more any time they need to.

    At the moment, like everyone else, the Rams are probably waiting for the market to settle down before adding anyone else. IMO, I too like every other poster in existence think it will be at least one of the great triumvirate: Blalock, Wisniewski, Barksdale.

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    Or you vault over the turnstile when the ticket takers back is turned and watch the game at your 50 yard line seat and write down the announced attendance.

    Yeah yeah right. College kids think they know everything.

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    The expectations for Foles have to be realistic. He is not, never was and never will be Aaron Rodgers.

    You know one difference that favors Foles?

    Foles: 5 game winning drives/combacks in 24 starts. 20.8%

    Rodgers: 12 game winning drives/combacks in 103 starts. 11.6%

    That’s in a lot of ways a fake stat…numbers of games in this category is not really as important as percentage. That is, how often does the team win when the qb is in that situation.

    But, Rodgers famously has a low-ish percentage when it comes to that.

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    Malcolm Brown, RB, Texas

    Malcolm Brown, RB
    School: Texas
    Height/Weight: 5-11 / 224 lbs.

    STRENGTHS: Brown looks the part with NFL build, running square to the line of scrimmage with the body strength to shake off single defenders and play with lower pad level than most on the field. He doesn’t have dynamic elusiveness, but shows effective plant-and-go quickness with excellent play speed, always looking to get north-south in a hurry. Brown follows his blocks well with good feel and vision to find openings and get to the second level. Although he doesn’t have ideal power and explosive traits, Brown runs physical, low to the ground and always seems to be picking up positive yardage.

    WEAKNESSES: Lacks the juice teams are looking for in a feature back, showing little explosiveness through the hole and lacking breakaway speed. Shows toughness to run through tackles but is an upright runner who too often absorbs big hits, leaving the ball and his body vulnerable. Swings his arms to maintain balance, at times, further exposing the ball. Possesses a naturally imposing frame but isn’t a cut-up athlete, raising questions about his weight-room dedication.

    Player Overview

    Considered the nation’s top running back out of high school four years ago, Brown led the Longhorns in rushing yards in 2013 (904 yards), but he hasn’t exactly lived up to the monumental hype. Nonetheless, his talent is obvious and was on display when he finished the 2013 season strong with three straight 100-yard performances (128, 131, 130).

    Unfortunately, Brown wasn’t able to continue this momentum in Charlie Strong’s first season as the head ‘Horn, eclipsing the 100-yard mark just one time in 2014 – a 116-yard, two-touchdown effort (on a season-high 22 carries) in a 34-13 win over Texas Tech.

    Brown looks the part, boasting a combination of power and balance to keep his feet and drive through contact for additional yardage. Unfortunately, he lacks the wiggle and breakaway speed that teams value in today’s NFL, leaving the former five-star recruit hoping just to get drafted.

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    Titans OL drafted under Fisher

    Hits bolded. Hits = guys who started at least a season. I red-bolded especially good players

    2009 4 135 Troy Kropog T
    2009 7 239 Ryan Durand G
    2007 4 115 Leroy Harris C
    2007 7 223 Michael Otto T
    2006 4 114 Joe Toledo T
    2005 2 41 Michael Roos T
    2005 4 113 David Stewart T

    2005 5 150 Daniel Loper T
    2004 5 138 Jacob Bell G
    2004 7 239 Eugene Amano C
    2003 7 225 Todd Williams G
    2002 6 187 Justin Hartwig C
    2001 6 199 Adam Haayer T
    2000 7 237 Wes Shivers T
    1999 3 81 Zach Piller G
    1998 5 139 Benji Olson G

    1998 7 229 Kevin Long C
    1997 3 81 Scott Sanderson T
    1996 2 48 Jason Layman G
    1996 4 109 Jon Runyan T

    1995 6 174 Hicham El-Mashtoub C

    Hit rate = 11 of 21, or 52%

    In comparison

    Rams, 98 to 2008. (They did alright in 97 with Pace and Tucker.) Where there ARE hits, they;re knuckleheads. In fact, in 2005, they managed to take 3 knucklehead linemen in one draft.

    I bolded the hit.

    I don’t count knuckleheads as hits, though, technically, that’s not necessarily defensible.

    1998 6 159 Glenn Rountree G
    1999 5 145 Cameron Spikes G
    2000 7 220 Andrew Kline G
    2000 4 104 Kaulana Noa T
    2000 3 94 John St. Clair T
    2002 4 130 Travis Scott G
    2003 6 184 Scott Tercero G
    2004 7 238 Larry Turner C
    2005 1 19 Alex Barron T
    2005 3 81 Richie Incognito G
    2005 4 134 Claude Terrell
    2006 7 242 Mark Setterstrom G
    2007 6 191 Ken Shackleford T
    2007 5 139 Dustin Fry C
    2008 5 157 Roy Schuening G
    2008 3 65 John Greco G

    Hit rate (minus knuckleheads) = 1 of 16, or 6%

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    I think zn posted the attendance figures for LA in the final years of the Rams and the final years of the Big Red in St. Louis

    Wasn’t me. I don’t like doing attendance figures. You stand there and count, and then somewhere past 10,000 you forget what number you’re on and have to start over….

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    I understand but that is not me. When Bidwill flew the coop while bashing St. Louis fans I didn’t watch the NFL for 7 years and delighted in the news of his failure in Phoenix that lasted 20 years. I became a reluctant Rams fan as I really wanted an expansion team and believe to this day the Jags should have been the St. Louis Stallions and this crap wouldn’t be happening today. No doubt the NFL brass thinks so too.

    I find it obscene that a billionaire demands the public fund their stadium again after only 20 years then says he will privately finance a much more expensive stadium elsewhere? Busch II was 40 years old and the Arena was at least 70 years old. Such huge investments shouldn’t be treated as disposable. The publicly owned Packers still play fine in Lambeau Field.

    But you’re part of the gang. You would have to at least check in. Or, the mods will be forced into extreme measures. Though I should explain—here, the way banning works, it means YOU CAN NEVER LEAVE. s

    (Watch the smiley, it morphs.)

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    Xavier Williams, DT, Northern Iowa

    DT Xavier Williams
    Northern Iowa
    6’2″ Height
    309LBS. Weight

    Analysis

    Strengths
    Former wrestler who plays with low center of gravity and displays natural strength and leverage. Plays with consistent effort level and dominated a lower level of competition. Tough guy. Plays with a strong base and can absorb and withstand double teams without giving up much ground. Tenacious pass rusher who fights hard to get to quarterback.

    Weaknesses
    As a pass rusher, stays centered to offensive linemen and doesn’t get to the edge often enough. Slow to react off snap, causing him to get hung up against zone blocks. Wasn’t able to step his game up when taking on tougher competition. Nothing special about athleticism or burst off snap.

    Bottom Line
    High-cut developmental prospect at defensive tackle who plays with the motor and toughness that teams will love, but he is still in need of more seasoning and growth. As he competes against better competition, he could show quite a bit of improvement.

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    from off the net

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    Blockandtackle2

    Per Walterfootball.com

    St. Louis Rams

    Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (SR)
    Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma (EW)
    Malcolm Brown, RB, Texas (EW)
    Bryce Callahan, CB, Rice (EW)
    La’el Collins, OT, LSU (COM)
    Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State (COM)
    Geneo Grissom, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Oklahoma (SR)
    Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (SR)
    Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (SR)
    Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA (COM)
    Mitch Morse, OT/G, Missouri (COM)
    Bryce Petty^, QB, Baylor (COM, PRI)
    Damarious Randall, S, Arizona State (SR)
    Aaron Ripkowski, FB, Oklahoma (EW)
    Brandon Scherff, OT/G, Iowa (COM)
    Austin Shepherd, OT, Alabama (SR)
    Cam Thomas, CB, Western Kentucky (EW)
    Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma (PRO)
    Clive Walford, TE, Miami (SR)
    Daryl Williams, OT, Oklahoma (PRO)
    Xavier Williams, DT, Northern Iowa (EW)
    Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (PRI)
    Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State (

    SR – Senior Bowl meeting.
    EW – East-West Shrine meeting.
    COM – Combine meeting.
    INT – Interested.
    VINT – Very Interested.
    PRO – Pro Day or campus meeting/workout.
    LOC – Local visit.
    PRI – Private visit.
    WOR – Private Workout.
    % – indicates more than one meeting at an event.
    ^ – has met with team at more than one event.
    # – indicates meeting set up outside of the 2015 Senior Bowl or the 2015 East-West Shrine Game

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    Me.

    The backs = Malcolm Brown, Aaron Ripkowski
    The qbs = Garrett Grayson, Brett Hundley, Bryce Petty, Jameis Winston
    The OLs = La’el Collins, Mitch Morse (OT/G), Brandon Scherff, Austin Shepherd, Tyrus Thompson, Daryl Williams

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    Musings: Michael Sam just isn’t good enough to play in NFL next season
    March 22, 2015 7:56 pm ET

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer…t-isnt-good-enough-to-play-in-nfl-next-season

    TEMPE, Ariz. — Michael Sam, the NFL’s first openly gay player, has been out of the league since October.

    Based on what he showed at the NFL’s first Veterans Combine here at the Arizona Cardinals practice facility Sunday, it might be permanent.

    Despite Sam’s insistence that he wants to continue with his quest to play in the NFL, and he has to applauded for chasing his dream after being let go by two teams last year, the reality is that he simply might not be good enough.

    “It was bad,” one scout said of Sam’s workout here.

    Sam was listed at 6-foot-2, 265 pounds, but that might be stretching it in terms of his height. He looked smallish compared to the other defensive linemen who worked out here. But worse was his performance.

    He was timed in 5.07 seconds in the 40-yard dash, slow for an edge rusher. That time should be closer to 4.7. At his pro day last year, Sam ran 4.79. So one year and he’s that much slower?

    Or is it because he’s now taking part in Dancing With the Stars?

    He was asked about that, but shunned off the questioner.

    “Next question,” said Sam, who seemed a bit snippy during his session with the media.

    Sam’s position drills weren’t impressive either. He had no burst and looked slow at times. It’s hard to believe he was the SEC Defensive Player of the Year at Missouri in 2013. Then again, it shows college stats and awards mean nothing when it comes to playing with the big boys.

    Here’s the reality: Sam should go to Canada and try and show what he can do, or simply move on to other pursuits.

    This might be harsh, but I will be shocked if he’s on an NFL roster — ever.

    And it won’t have anything to do with his sexual orientation. I talked with a handful of scouts here, all of whom insisted it didn’t matter.

    “Nobody cares,” one scout said. “It’s about him as a player.”

    Sam said he would continue to work to get back to the league.

    “As long as I still have that will, as long as I’m still healthy, and can play this game, you will continue to see me fighting to get in this league,” Sam said.

    It’s a fight that I don’t see him winning.

    Borland retirement no signal of trouble with NFL

    When 49ers linebacker Chris Borland retired at the age of 24 last week after only one season, it led to the knee-jerk narrative that football was in trouble.

    Spend a day at an NFL-sanctioned combine, where 2,000 players applied and 105 or so got invited, and tell me that’s the case.

    Outside in the parking lot, a player who wasn’t invited was hoping to get a chance to go inside. The security guard said he was there for two days — with a regional combine held at the same spot the day before.

    On the inside, more fortunate players chased their dreams. They paid $400 and their own expenses for that chance.

    One player who did was guard Justin Wells. He was in camp with the Panthers in 2012 and 2013, but didn’t make the active roster, a mangled finger ending his chances in 2013.

    But he still clings to the idea that he can play, which is why he doled out the money and flew from the Baltimore area to show his stuff.

    “I see this as another opportunity to try and get to the league,” he said. “I would do anything to play in the league.”

    Anything?

    “I’d give my left nut to do so,” he said.

    So I asked Wells and several others about Borland’s decision to retire and the narrative that football is in danger as a sport.

    “Look at the guys here, and look at all the guys who want to play in the league,” Wells said. “That’s one guy. For every one of him, there are 1,000 guys who want to play. It’s a risk-reward thing. I think it’s worth the risk and a lot of other guys obviously do too.”

    Wells was working at a Pier One Imports store riding a forklift, but will now go back and play Arena Football for the second consecutive year.

    “That check might be $900 a week,” Wells said. “That isn’t NFL money.”

    Defensive tackle Da’John Harris, who has been in camp twice with Tennessee and was on the active roster for seven games in 2012, agreed with Wells that the game isn’t dying.

    “That’s somebody’s opinion, but there are still so many guys who want to play this game,” Harris said. “It’s in too many people’s blood. Too many people have bled for this opportunity. Whenever there is a career out there and people are exhausting everything they can do, you can’t say it’s dying.”

    Harris, a former USC roommate of Titans defensive tackle Jurrell Casey, spent the past year working out, doing some acting as an extra in commercials and television work and also working as a bouncer.

    “People get drunk and don’t know how to control their alcohol,” Harris said “That’s where I come in.”

    All the while he continued to train in hopes of another chance, a dream chaser who isn’t about to let it die.

    “I’ll keep chasing it,” he said. “You can chase the dream and do other things too. But I don’t have a wife or kids, so I will continue to chase it.”

    So will many others, which is why the idea football is dying following Borland’s retirement is out of line. One look at the drive and determination here Sunday told that story.

    And so did the $400 they had to pony up for a chance the poor kid in the parking lot didn’t get.

    More Musings

    • Of the 105 participants here, scouts I talked with said as few as five or as many as 10 players could be signed to contracts. One scout said he was really disappointed with the talent. The entire process came off as an NFL-made-for-TV event. There is some talk this is a way for the league to help streamline scouting, make it more centralized. That’s not a good thing. The league even solicited teams about possible invitees. The problem there is that teams should be reluctant to give out the names of guys who they like. Why share?

    • The 40 times here were slow, but several scouts had quicker times on some players. Former NFL runner Felix Jones ran 4.79, but one scout I talked with had him at 4.6. Even so, that isn’t fast. Michael Bush was timed at 4.91. Supposedly when he was told that time, he said something like his career was over. His workout wasn’t great either.

    • The biggest names here were former first-round picks Brady Quinn — yes, who has worked with us at CBSSports.com — defensive tackle Adam Carriker and defensive end Jamaal Anderson. They, like so many others, are clinging to the dream of again playing in the league. “I don’t know why those guys are here,” one scout said. “Didn’t they make enough money?”

    • Borland is voluntarily returning the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus, which is the right thing to do. Of course, if he hadn’t the 49ers would have come after him. Why? Precedent. If he didn’t give it back, or the team didn’t ask for it back, it would have opened up a big problem for the league. Players could sign four-year deals, and then just quit with their bonus money. It had to go back to the 49ers.

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    NFL official: Los Angeles situation is “High tension”

    by Vincent Bonsignore

    http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2015/03/22/nfl-official-los-angeles-situation-is-high-tension/

    PHOENIX – The lush, manicured landscape and desert oasis ambiance of the luxurious Arizona hotel the National Football League has gathered this week seems like a curious place to stage a game of demolition derby.

    On the other hand, considering the hundreds of millions of dollars resting in the outcome, the opulence and indulgence offers the ideal setting for such a greedy, high-stakes competition to decide what NFL will land the golden goose known formally as the vacant Los Angeles market.

    “High tension,” is how NFL vice president Eric Grubman described situation.

    He should know. As the league point man on relocation to Los Angeles and retaining teams in their current markets, Grubman will stand before league owners tomorrow to deliver updates on the quagmire that Los Angeles is becoming.

    That means bringing owners up to date on what’s going on with the Raiders and Chargers fights to get new stadiums in Oakland and San Diego – the league seems skeptical of either getting it done – and their partnership in a shared stadium in Carson.

    In addition to giving updates on the Rams situation in St. Louis and owner Stan Kroenke’s plan to build a stadium on the old Hollywood Park race track in Inglewood.

    Presumably to be the new home for the Rams.

    Unless Missouri steps up with a plan to keep them in St. Louis – something the NFL has a noticeable level of confidence in, despite the uphill climb squeezing public money out of cities and states these days.

    Or maybe in spite of that plan, if Kroenke’s wish is to simply move to Los Angeles.

    “Stan will turn his card over when he has to,” Grubman said, not sure himself what Kroenke’s end game is.

    Grubman doesn’t believe owners would OK Kroenke walking away from $500 million in public assistance. And he doesn’t think Kroenke would disobey them by going rogue.

    Although he isn’t 100 percent certain.

    No one is.

    Kroenke holds all the cards at the moment.

    What we do know is, St. Louis, Oakland and San Diego essentially have until the end of 2015 to put together approved stadium plans.

    If not, their teams are fee to file for relocation to Los Angeles beginning January 1.

    All of which should make for an interesting Monday for Grubman, who will tell owners Kroenke’s Inglewood project is entitled and ready to be built and that the Chargers and Raiders are on target for an approved Carson project by May.
    But that St. Louis, Oakland and San Diego remain quite a distance from figuring out their situations.

    “I’ll be on the hot seat,” he said, wearing a wry smile.

    It doesn’t have to be this way. With just a little bit of common sense and a tad bit of decency we can pave a much smoother road back to Los Angeles.
    And in the process, avoid the ugly bloodletting we’ll witness over the next six or seven months in which the Rams, Raiders and Chargers are pitted against each other while far too much time, energy, rhetoric and money will be spent deciding an outcome.

    But then, that would mean the NFL actually being in front of the process rather than playing catch up.

    As one league official told me on Sunday, that would contradict just about everything that’s happened during the league’s feeble two-decade long march back to the City of Angels.

    Culminating with the ugly situation we now face in which three of the league’s 32 teams – or roughly 10 percent of the NFL – have become lame ducks in their home markets and all three are officially attached to a pair of competing stadium plans in the Los Angeles area.

    With one owner – Kroenke – essentially a step ahead of everyone, including the league.

    “It’s been 20 years of pretty much unrelenting incompetence by the NFL in the LA market,” the league official said.

    Unless the league takes control between now and the end of the calendar year, it’s likely to get much worse.

    “The question is, who really believes the NFL knows what it’s doing at this point regarding L.A?,” a league official asked.

    Grubman will stand before the owners Monday hoping to shed some light on things.

    The reality is, the 20-year mess the NFL has made of Los Angeles is headed to a fascinating finish.

    And maybe even an ugly one.

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    On Monday, the NFL will provide an update to clubs on LA. The Rams, Chargers and Raiders won’t present their respective LA projects.

    When questions come, clubs will be free to answer. But it’s more likely the league will answer LA questions, clubs on their home markets.

    NFL’s dilemma now: The Rams have the strongest project. They’re also the least qualified of the 3 to move, by NFL’s relocation criteria.

    At least in the short term, the likely outcome is 2 (not 3) teams in South California. So either 2 in LA, or 1 in San Diego and 1 in LA.

    NFL is working to set up April visits to San Diego, Oakland and St. Louis. League is doing its own market assessment on those 3 cities.

    There are about 10-12 possible scenarios that could play out. 1 interesting one: Rams to LA; Raiders to StL; SD stays put for time being.

    If that scenario played out, Rams would get head start, Raiders get fresh start, Chargers set a deadline for SD to get stadium done.

    NFL is in a good spot in regards to LA. Competing projects = Better projects. Good likelihood, as Mara said, there’s a team there in ’16.

    Among the things NFL pays attention to — A club’s popularity in LA. Per LA Times polling, Rams win that one

    We won’t get answers this week. But at this point, those involved believe there’s a good chance things crystallize on LA in Oct or Nov.

    Dodger Stadium remains under consideration, along with the Coliseum and Rose Bowl, as a potential temp NFL home

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    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    However, Kroenke is a master card player who won’t show cards until he absolutely has to #Rams #Raiders #Chargers

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    At the risk of upsetting L.A. #Rams fans, #NFL has level of confidence St. Louis will figure it out. Don’t think Kroenke will go rogue

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    #NFL officials also concerned whether Oakland/Alameda leaders up to task #Raiders #Rams #Chargers

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    #NFL officials wary of Coliseum City project in hands of real estate developer. Feel stadium is secondary to rest of development #Raiders

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    By the way, sense I get talking to folks here, a lot of skepticism on Oakland Coliseum City project #Raiders #Rams #Chargers

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    Update:Teams already updated Grubman. He will update owners tomorrow. #Raiders #Rams #Chargers will issue new update at May meetings

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    BTW, Eric Grubman described L.A.situation as “high tension” #Chargers #Rams #Raiders

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    Grubman will then update rest of #NFL owners. As he told me a few minutes ago, smiling: “I’ll be on the hot seat” #Rams #Raiders #Chargrers

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    Little housekeeping: #Raiders, #Chargers and #Rams will update #NFL point man Eric Grubman on home/Los Angeles situations on Monday morning

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    Also some Save the Bolts (#Chargers) fans here in Phoenix

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    Los Angeles #Rams out in force at #NFL owners meetings Phoenix, trying to convince owners belong in Los Angeles

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    #Chargers update will include continued questions/concerns on how SD stadium task force plans to make up $500 to $600 million funding gap

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    #Changers #Raiders presentation will include updates on Carson, Oakland and San Diego #NFL

    Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
    Bigger story to come but I’m hearing #Changers #Raiders to present a joint stadium update to #NFL this week at owners meetings

    in reply to: Who improved their stock the most during pro day? #21253
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    Interesting though that you assumed somehow that an execution error was a playcalling issue.

    I dunno, Nittany. I dunno. Have to take points off for that…..

    Very well, Mr. Stickler. Then I amend my response to, “That was the poorest execution since Henry the VIII had Lady Margaret de la Pole put to death by the hands of an inexperienced executioner in 1541.”

    Thanks. Sorry to force a change, but I didn’t write the rules.

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    I would combine my singular wit with a vague historical reference…”that was the worst call since Sir John Franklin decided to forego an extra pair of socks…”

    To be fair, “WTF?! Nooo!” is a perfectly valid response too.

    Interesting though that you assumed somehow that an execution error was a playcalling issue.

    I dunno, Nittany. I dunno. Have to take points off for that…..

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    Not sure about how much weight to give the judgement that someone is a better football player than previously thought based on watching him run around in shorts and a tank top.

    Posters should have pro days.

    Though those would be verbal. It would not matter what they wore.

    Example: You’re in the chat room during a game. Rams are down by 4 with a minute to go in the 4th quarter. They’re inside the 3 and it’s 4th down–a TD wins it, a failed play and they lose. The qb fumbles the snap. Which 19th century novelist or philosopher, or Star Trek episode, do you spontaneously quote at that point to fully register the range and complexity of your response?

    My answer: none. I go for droll understated irony based on feigned naivety. Like for example, “they still have one more shot, right?”

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    fwiw, Travis Bond got some notice in last year’s camp reports.

    CoachO

    Travis Bond 6’6 330 North Carolina

    A big & powerful guy, he has been locked in at RG with the 2nd unit since the second day of training camp. Moves well for his size, and is a dominant run blocker. One of those guys when he gets his hands on you, it’s over. Has been a pleasant surprise for me. Could be a guy who manages to make the team, especially if they keep 10.

    Ah but. Some quick follow-up.

    CoachO

    Bond caught my eye early on in camp, but as the preseason went on, the physical tools were negated by the mental part of his game.

    He was the only guy on the roster who looked as physically imposing as Robinson, but the word I got was he just simply missed too many assignments to be counted on. As much as Joseph struggled, having Bond there, and never promoting him, tells me that there are some major concerns with his “aptitude”.

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    fwiw, Travis Bond got some notice in last year’s camp reports.

    CoachO

    Travis Bond 6’6 330 North Carolina

    A big & powerful guy, he has been locked in at RG with the 2nd unit since the second day of training camp. Moves well for his size, and is a dominant run blocker. One of those guys when he gets his hands on you, it’s over. Has been a pleasant surprise for me. Could be a guy who manages to make the team, especially if they keep 10.

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    Georgia’s mentor was the owner of the Bucs. Forget his name.

    Hugh Culverhouse.

    He’s the one who recommended Shaw to her.

    What that suggests to me is that his place in hell is dark, deep, and particularly bad.

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    This is the ‘nice’ board. We’re nice

    What the hell are you blithering about NOW.

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    You know, someone else left the Rams and took a similar position in Tampa. I forget the name. He was in marketing, I think, and was I thought the point man in charge of organizing all the community involvement stuff.

    It’s a brain drain. But a lateral move brain drain. When Wagoner left, he was called up by the majors.

    Either way…looks like they still take Demoff’s recommendations back at his old team in Tampa.

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    Me as a player, I grew a lot through adverse times—throwing interceptions, having to come back on the field and throw it again. You learn a lot through that.

    This to me was interesting. He’s saying he got more out of 2014 than 2013. Two of their wins when he played were 4th quarter comebacks.

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    Don’t expect anything to happen on Joe Barksdale front until the Rams RT is back from his honeymoon. Titans are showing some interest.

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    Movin the Chains, weekdays from 3 – 7 pm EST., with Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan, only on SiriusXM NFL Radio,

    Mills and Pat talk about the possibility of the Chargers trading Phillip Rivers

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    Saguaro

    2013 Game 1 @ Denver.

    This one almost isn’t worth mentioning. Foles relieves an injured Vick in the 4th Q
    with the Eagles down 52-13! Not much Foles could do about that, but let’s see what
    he can accomplish.

    6:53 of the 4th, 52-13, at the Eagle 20.

    1st and 10: Polk run for 1
    2nd and 9: Pass complete to Polk underneath for 6.
    3rd and 3: Polk breaks through the line and a big gain to the 50.
    1st and 10: Incomplete to Bryce Brown.
    2nd and 10: Brown run left for 2.
    3rd and 8: Foles drops and hits Maehl perfectly in stride on a post that goes to the
    Denver 5.
    1st and G: Quick screen left to Maehl, he gets a block, TD.

    Philly never gets the ball back.

    Ok, well, Foles did what he could do, get a TD in short order. It was cleanup time,
    but good things are in the offing.

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