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    It’s appropriate to ask this before the draft.

    Some people I think are disheartened because of the move.

    Some are getting worn down by Fisher—they have doubts about him.

    Some (like me) are still the same optimistic idiots they’ve always been every other off-season.

    I think they are a solid healthy OLine
    away from double-digit wins
    and playoffs.

    All the other Units are
    good enough, i think.

    One unit left.
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    But that implies you have an emotional interest running fairly strong. (Me too.) But we’re nomads. It’s going to be a strange season in many respects. But a lot of us are still invested. Some? Not as much, maybe.

    So that’s a fair description on my part? You’re still chugging along, interested as usual? Plus (also like me) you see the potential for good things….

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    http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/STLSports/STLRams/tabid/137/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/17429/Jim-Thomas-Talks-Rays-Arrest-Rams-Draft-Topics-on-The-Press-Box.aspx

    What’s your take on Mizzou’s Shane Ray getting cited for marijuana possession three days before the draft?

    “I’m sure people are in draft rooms all over the league are re-evaluating. It was a very small amount of marijuana. But my goodness, just common sense…What were you thinking three days before the draft? I think to a large degree the league doesn’t get that worked up about marijuana anymore. It’s legal in two or three states now. But still…I think as much as what he was arrested for is you wonder about the common sense and decision making. I don’t think he’ll slide tremendously…The other thing about Shane Ray is the foot issue…so he’s got a couple of things teams have to think about.”

    On the Rams having the chance to draft Ray now:

    “This factors into the Rams because Shane Ray did make a pre-Draft visit to the Rams. We all know how Jeff Fisher loves collecting pass-rushers. What if they’re staring at Shane Ray? I think they will be staring at (Nebraska defensive end) Randy Gregory. Some people think in terms of pass rush ability…is the best pass rusher in the draft.”

    What are you hearing about Dorial Green-Beckham?

    “He’s handles the pre-Draft process. Part of the time he’s been training in St. Louis. He said all the right things at the Combine. I just wonder if some team like New Orleans – who lost a playmaker in Jimmy Graham – or New England…take him in the bottom of the first. I think it’s more likely second round because it is a deep draft at receiver.”

    What are the odds the Amari Cooper or Kevin White will be there for the Rams to select?

    “I think it’s very unlikely. Maybe one-in-three a chance or something like that. This draft is some ways…it doesn’t seem as predictable as other drafts. Everybody thinks Oakland is going to take a wide receiver…A lot of people think Chicago will take a wide receiver. I would run up to the podium (if one of them was still there).”

    So if those two are gone, and wide receiver DeVonte Parker of Louisville is still available along with a good lineman, what do you think the Rams would do?

    “I think they would lean to offensive linemen. It just seems awful high for a guy like Parker. I don’t know if he’s a true difference maker. Obviously he’s got some good qualities…he never had more than 55 catches at Louisville. I just can’t see Parker there at 10.”

    What do you make of the Sam Bradford trade rumors?

    “They don’t make much sense. If you’re Cleveland, why wouldn’t you trade for him before he got traded (from the Rams)? If anybody can get Bradford’s career back on track – given good health – I think it’s (Eagles offensive coordinator) Pat Shurmur. Bradford was rookie of the year in 2010, the year Shurmur was offensive coordinator for the Rams.”

    Do you think the Rams would trade up to select Marcus Mariotta?

    “I think the Rams need a quarterback…for the simple fact that you’re entire quarterback roster right now…don’t have contracts after 2015. You’ve got to think of the future a little bit. And Foles, as fanstastic as he played (in 2013), he was just so-so at best last year. He’s also had some injury issues. The Rams want to draft a quarterback. Maybe if Mariotta slides past Tennessee at two, maybe the Rams try to move up. I just don’t think the Rams have enough ammo to move up to No. 2.”

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    Steven Baker Height: 6-8 Weight: 310 Age: 26:
    Along with Bond, he was a practice squad addition in late October

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    Note — I hobbled this together from about 7-8 different sources, lifting a line here and a line there and then smashing it together as one coherent read.
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    STEVEN BAKER

    Height: 6074
    Weight: 301
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.91
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.83
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.75
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
    Vertical Jump: 32
    Broad Jump: 09’02”
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.70
    3-Cone Drill: 7.91

    Attended Northern Nash High School in Rocky Mount, N.C.. A three-year starter on the defensive line and a two-way starter, including playing time as a tight end during his senior campaign. Selected to the all-area second-team squad in 2006. Also competed on the school’s basketball and track teams. Finished fourth in the state shot put championships as a junior.

    A four-year letterman at East Carolina, Baker played in 42 games for the Pirates during his collegiate career. In 2011 started every game at right tackle. Size, strength, quickness and mobility consistently complimented.

    Coming out of East Carolina, SI.com called Baker “a terrific athlete with the size and movement skills to play at the next level.” Strength was apparently a question for Baker, and he is considered a player who is limited to the right side.

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    Couple of interesting bits:

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    Fisher: The offseason program at this point does give offensive players permission to throw the ball without the coaches on the field. Nick’s reports are that those sessions have been great. He’s had three or four sessions with the guys. He’s really impressed with the guys that we’ve surrounded him with and guys are very excited about having him here.”

    (On how WR Brian Quick is progressing)
    Fisher: “Progress has been really good. Talking with ‘Reg’ (Reggie Scott, Director of Sports Medicine and Performance) just recently this week – we’re very excited. I saw Brian this morning and he’s very encouraged. From a timing standpoint, it’s camp, it’s OTAs potentially with protection, but I don’t think there’s going to be an issue with him missing – at this point – with him missing much time in camp.”

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    I can’t predict till after the draft.

    For example, if they get Marshall Faulk in a trade, it improves things.

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    final OVERALL 2015 Draft Board

    This is not a prediction board, it’s how I rank players. It is a start from scratch board, it’s not geared to any specific system or team. I’ll be glad to answer any questions or discuss any of the prospects in more detail. Hope this helps make the rankings in the BPA list make more sense…like how a four players are obviously top five BPA but not Top 5 grades.

    About the board –
    Players at all positions are in order. I still use my older method of grading to get players into tiers but I now move them around in that tier by gut feeling. Simply who I like more so I won’t really be able to “sell” why I may like one player in a tier more than another in the same tier. A (+) means a player is at the top of a tier for me, (-) at the bottom based on “gut feelings”. Was going to leave out the UDFA tier, then started adding them, THEN started running out of time so I’m just leaving them in and will do a priority UDFA list after the draft.

    Hope people enjoy it.

    QUARTERBACKS

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –

    Jameis Winston, Florida State (character?)

    Top 50 –
    NONE

    Top 100 –

    + Garrett Grayson, Colorado State
    – Brandon Bridge, South Alabama
    – Marcus Mariotta, Oregon

    Top 150 –

    – Bryce Petty, Baylor

    UDFA –

    Jameill Showers, UTEP
    Ryan Williams, Miami
    Jake Waters, Kansas State
    Taylor Heinicke, Old Dominion

    RUNNING BACKS

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –
    NONE

    Top 50 –

    + Todd Gurley, Georgia
    David Johnson, Northern Iowa
    Duke Johnson, Miami
    Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
    Tevin Coleman, Indiana

    Top 100 –

    Jay Ajayi, Boise State
    Jeremy Langford, Michigan State
    David Cobb, Minnesota
    Mike Davis, South Carolina
    Karlos Williams, Florida State

    Top 150 –

    Josh Robinson, Mississippi State
    Matt Jones, Florida
    Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska
    TJ Yeldon, Alabama

    UDFA –

    Dreamius Smith, West Virginia
    John Cockett, North Dakota State
    Brandon Wegher, Morningside College

    WIDE RECEIVERS

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –

    + Amari Cooper, Alabama
    + DeVante Parker, Louisville
    + Kevin White, West Virginia
    Jaelen Strong, Arizona State

    Top 50 –

    Tre McBride, William & Mary
    Rashad Greene, Florida State
    Antwan Goodley, Baylor
    Dorial Green-Beckham
    Jamison Crowder, Duke
    Breshad Perriman, UCF
    Nelson Agholor, USC
    Phillip Dorsett, Miami

    Top 100 –

    + Tyler Lockett, Kansas State
    + Devin Smith, Ohio State
    + Devante Davis, UNLV
    Justin Hardy, East Carolina
    Jordan Taylor, Rice
    DeAndre Smelter, Georgia Tech (inj?)
    Dezmin Lewis, Central Arkansas
    Darren Waller, Georgia Tech
    Sammie Coates, Auburn
    Devin Funchess, Michigan

    TOP 150 –

    +Ty Montgomery, Stanford
    John Harris, Texas
    Vince Mayle, Washington State
    Geremy Davis, UConn
    Jamarcus Nelson, UAB
    Stefon Diggs, Maryland
    Dre Anderson, Utah
    Titus Davis, Central Michigan
    Kasen Williams, Washington
    Josh Harper, Fresno State

    UDFA –

    DaVaris Daniels, Notre Dame
    Tyrell Williams, Western Oregon
    Nigel King, Kansas

    TIGHT ENDS

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –
    NONE

    Top 50 –
    Maxx Williams, Minnesota
    Jesse James, Penn State

    Top 100 –

    + Clive Walford, Miami
    + Jeff Heuerman, Ohio State
    – Ben Koyack, Notre Dame
    – Blake Bell, Oklahoma
    – Tyler Kroft, Rutgers

    Top 150 –

    A.J. Derby, Arkansas
    Lynden Trail, Norfolk State
    Jean Sifrin, UMass (age)
    MyCole Pruitt, Southern Illinois
    – Wes Saxton. South Alabama

    UDFA –

    Nick O’Leary, Florida State

    OFFENSIVE TACKLES

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –

    + T.J. Clemmings, Pitt
    + Jake Fisher, Oregon
    Andrus Peat, Stanford

    Top 50 –

    Donovan Smith, Penn State
    – Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State
    – D.J. Humphries, Florida (injury/weight?)

    Top 100 –

    + Erick Flowers, Miami
    Rob Havenstein, Wisconsin (OG)
    Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M (injury?)
    Austin Shepherd, Alabama

    Top 150 –

    Daryl Williams, Oaklahoma
    Jeremiah Poutasi, Utah (OG)
    Corey Robinson, South Carolina
    Kevin Whimpey, Utah State
    Tayo Fabuluje, TCU

    UDFA –

    Tyrus Thompson, Oaklahoma
    Christian Lombard, Notre Dame

    GUARDS

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –

    + Brandon Scherff, Iowa (OT)
    + La’el Collins, LSU (OT)

    Top 50 –
    NONE

    Top 100 –

    Tre’ Jackson, Florida State
    Jarvis Harrison, Texas A&M
    A.J. Cann, South Carolina
    – Arie Kouandijo, Alabama
    – Laken Tomlinson, Duke
    – Shaq Mason, Georgia Tech

    Top 150 –

    Isaiah Shelton, Shepherd
    Jon Feliciano, Miami
    John Miller, Louisville
    Jamon Brown, Louisville
    Jamil Douglas, Arizona State
    Mitch Morse, Missouri
    Mark Glowinski, West Virginia
    Adam Shead, Oklahoma
    Quinton Spain, West Virginia
    – Bobby Hart, Florida State
    – Josue Matias, Florida State
    – Trenton Brown, Florida

    UDFA –

    CENTERS

    Top 50 –

    Cam Erving, Florida State

    Top 100 –

    Andy Gallik, Boston College
    Ali Marpit, Hobart
    – Max Garcia, Florida

    TOP 150 –

    Nick Easton, Harvard
    David Andrews, Georgia
    Hroniss Grasu, Oregon
    Reese Dismukes, Auburn
    B.J. Finney, Kansas State

    UDFA –

    Brandon Vitabile, Northwestern
    Greg Mancz, Toledo

    DEFENSIVE END/OLB

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –

    + Vic Beasley, Clemson
    + Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA
    + Shane Ray, Missouri
    + Henry Anderson, Stanford
    Preston Smith, Miss. St.

    Top 50 –

    Eli Harold, Virginia
    Trey Flowers, Arkansas
    Nate Orchard, Utah
    Arik Armstead, Oregon
    – Lorenzo Mauldin, Louisville
    – Randy Gregory, Nebraska

    Top 100 –

    Markus Golden, Missouri
    Za’Darius Smith, Kentucky
    – Zack Hodges, Harvard
    – Mario Edwards, FSU
    – Danielle Hunter, LSU

    Top 150 –

    Ryan Delaire, Towson
    Mike Reilly, William & Mary
    Brock Hekking, Nevada
    Deion Barnes, Penn State
    Shaquille Riddick, West Virginia
    Zack Wagenmann, Montana
    Obum Gwacham, Oregon State
    Anthony Chickillo, Miami
    Max Valles, Virginia

    UDFA –

    INTERIOR DEFENSIVE LINEMAN

    Top 5 –

    Leonard Williams, USC

    Top 25 –

    + Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
    Carl Davis, Iowa
    Danny Shelton, Washington
    Malcom Brown, Texas

    Top 50 –

    + Eddie Goldman, Florida State
    Grady Jarrett, Clemson
    Xavier Cooper, Washington State

    Top 100 –

    Derrick Lott, UT Chattanooga

    Top 150 –

    Terry Williams, ECU
    Michael Bennett, Ohio State
    Bobby Richardson, Indiana
    Joey Mbu, Houston
    – Marcus Hardison, Arizona State
    – Darius Kilgo, Maryland

    UDFA –

    Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Southern Miss
    Carlif Taylor, Southern Connecticut
    Xavier Williams, UNI
    Gabe Wright, Auburn

    OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –

    + Shaq Thompson, Washington
    Paul Dawson, TCU
    Alvin Dupree, Kentucky
    Dante Fowler Jr., Florida

    Top 50 –
    NONE

    Top 100 –

    Davis Tull, UC-Chattanooga
    Kwon Alexander, LSU
    Hau’oli Kikaha, Washington

    Top 150 –

    Ben Heeney, Kansas
    Reshard Cliett, USF

    UDFA –

    Tank Jakes, Memphis

    MIDDLE/INSIDE LINEBACKERS

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –
    NONE

    Top 50 –

    + Eric Kendricks, UCLA (OLcool smiley
    Denzel Perryman, Miami

    Top 100 –

    Jordan Hicks, Texas
    Taiwan Jones, Michigan State (target later)
    Stephone Anthony, Clemson
    Martell Spaight, Arkansas (target later)
    Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State (34)
    Kyle Emanuel, North Dakota State (DE) (34OLcool smiley
    – Justin Shirk, Bloomsburg (target later)
    – Zach Vigil, Utah State (target later)

    Top 150 –

    + Mike Hull, Penn State
    Hayes Pullard, USC (OLcool smiley
    Bryce Hager, Baylor
    A.J. Tarpley, Stanford (OLcool smiley

    UDFA –

    Jeff Luc, Cincinnati
    Terrence Plummer, UCF

    SAFETIES

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –
    NONE

    Top 50 –

    Landon Collins, Alabama
    Clayton Geathers, UCF
    Adrian Amos, Penn State
    Quinten Rollins, Miami (Ohio) (Ccool smiley
    Ibraheim Campbell, Northwestern
    – Cody Prewitt, Miss State

    Top 100 –

    + Donald Celiscar, Western Michigan
    + Julius White, Rice
    + Anthony Harris, Virginia
    – Kurtis Drummond, Michigan State
    – Chris Hackett, TCU

    Top 150 –

    Anthony Jefferson, UCLA
    – Jaquiski Tartt, Samford
    – Fritz Etienne, Memphis
    – Erick Dargan, Oregon
    – Dean Marlowe, James Madison
    – Cedric Thompson, Minnesota
    – Jordan Richards, Stanford

    UDFA –

    Robenson Therezie, Auburn
    Durell Eskridge, Syracuse

    CORNERBACKS

    Top 5 –
    NONE

    Top 25 –

    + Eric Rowe, Utah +S
    Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest

    Top 50 –

    Jalen Collins, LSU (character? Drop?)
    Jacoby Glenn, UCF
    Trae Waynes, Michigan State
    Marcus Peters, Washington
    Ronald Darby, Florida State
    P.J. Williams, Florida State
    – Doran Grant, Ohio State

    Top 100 –

    + Kevin White, TCU
    + Steven Nelson, Oregon State
    Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, Oregon
    Chris Conley, Georgia
    Byron Jones, UConn

    Top 150 –

    + D’ Joun Smith, Florida Atlantic
    + Ladarius Gunter, Miami (safety?)
    + Charles Gaines, Louisville
    + Bobby McCain, Memphis
    Craig Mager, Texas State
    Garry Peters, Clemson
    Julian Wilson, Oaklahoma
    – JaCorey Shepherd, Kansas
    – Justin Coleman, Tennessee
    – Alex Carter, Stanford

    UDFA –

    Darryl Roberts, Marshall
    Lorenzo, Doss, Tulane

    in reply to: JT chat 4/28 #23298
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    I think at this point you need to sign a one-year “prove-it” deal and just make the most of it if you’re Barksdale. The money’s certainly not going to get any better. And after the draft, every team that drafts a tackle in the first three or four rounds is going to think they’ve addressed a need.

    I think Brockers has played pretty well, actually. He was used more to do the dirty work a year ago, with the ascendancy of Aaron Donald _ that is, occupying blockers, playing almost in a nose tackle role at times, which hurts your tackling and sack numbers. Barron’s number would’ve been more than $8.2 million to exercise his option _ which I think explains why it wasn’t exercised.

    League will assess a relocation fee if Stan moves. Could be $500 million-plus I’m told. I think the league feels more confident about collecting one this time around

    The most logical thing to do is just what you suggest: OL in Round 1, QB in Round 2, and maybe another O-lineman in Round 3. As we all know, logic sometimes goes out the window in the draft. I don’t know if the Rams like Peat well enough to take him at 10 overall. But I did have a scout tell me that Peat should go much higher than where he has been projected to go in many of the media mock drafts.

    Brandon Scherff makes a lot of sense. I think he’s better than his tape showed last season (because of the knee injury). He’s exactly what you need on what’s shaping up as a very young O-line: a tough, physical run-blocker. But you almost certainly will have to play him at guard. But do you take a guard that high in the draft? And I can see the attraction of Andrus Peat and La’El Collins.

    I’ve heard from a scout _ on another team _ who thinks that the Rams really like Hundley. I think Hundley projects pretty good leadership skills, cares about his craft, and provides mobility for when the pocket breaks down. But his pocket presence looks like an issue, and I’d have to make sure in my mind that he has the discipline to go through his reads without cutting and running at the first sign of danger. I like Petty a lot but another scout that I talked to thinks it could take him a couple, three years to be ready to go in a pro style offense. And lastly, I’ve heard from another source _ someone who has access to the front office _ that the Rams like Sean Mannion, who is more NFL ready because he played in pro style offense at Oregon State, but threw a lot of interceptions last season and has a long delivery.

    Do the Rams feel that Barrett Jones, Tim Barnes, or Demetrius Rhaney can play center in 2015 and in which order?
    by 28-Blast 3:14PM

    It’s looking that way. And I think right now it would go 1.) Jones; 2.) Barnes; 3.) Rhaney.

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    Rams Pre-Draft Press Conference – Head Coach Jeff Fisher & General Manager Les Snead – April 28, 2015

    (Opening comments)
    Les Snead: “The 2015 Draft, we’ll talk about it. I think it’s the next step in the process of getting where we want to be. We’re not there yet but we’re going to get there. It’s coming. The draft is a major part and I’m sure Coach “Fish’ will talk about phase one and phase two (of the offseason program). That’s also a part in the next step of getting where we want to be.”

    (On where the Rams are in terms of setting the draft board)
    Snead: “We just left a meeting in the draft room. We were staring at the board with a few guys. You may nudge a guy a half an inch or two, but a lot of it is fine tuning scenarios, best fits and all kinds of things.”

    (On if the board is set at this point)
    Snead: “Pretty much. The foundation is there.”

    Jeff Fisher: “Les’s staff has done a great job to this point. We started a little bit early, earlier than we have in the past just to take the time. We’ve taken some quality time putting it together. It’s together. There’s still some things that we need to look at, some minor adjustments we need to make, but it’s there. I think at this point we’re pretty much looking at the different scenarios. There’s a number of things that can take place beforehand. As we do every year, we look at our options. We have some players in mind that we think will help us. It’s a great draft. It’s loaded at some positions, specifically some positions of need. Now it’s just kind of fine tuning if you will. It’s the Friday of the game-planning week where you finish up your walk-thru and the game plan is in, you’re prepared to play.”

    Snead: “Before we move, like Coach ‘Fish’ said, the staff has done a great job – scouts, everybody involved. We’ve been through a lot of meetings – and Coach will like this – I asked our computer people last night…you basically take every bit of information you’ve got. You put it on a page on a PDF and you put it on a big screen and we talk about that information. I said, ‘How many pages did we go through?’ They said it’s over 8,000 pages over the last three weeks of information. It’s in big font so we can all see it.”

    (On if they ever experience ‘paralysis by analysis’ with all of that information)
    Snead: “Every now and then it can be.”

    (On if they’ve received any calls yet from teams looking to potentially trade up or down)
    Snead: “You always get calls this time of year. I don’t know if it’s because teams really want to do something or they want to figure out what you’re going to do. I think I mentioned it last year, we’re at the flirting stage of just chatting with other GM’s. I’m sure Coach (has) with other coaches around the league. You kind of try to figure out what each is going to do. Again, I think this is going to be the fourth draft; we’ve moved up, we’ve moved back, we’ve stayed pat. So, there will be some type of pattern set this year. I don’t know what it will be, but we’ll figure it out.”

    (On how much they monitor the chatter that goes on leading up to the draft)
    Snead: “There’s over 8,000 pages of chatter out there. So, you can’t really pay attention to that because you’re locked in a room meeting with all the football people, all the coaches, the medical staff, and you’re trying to get your board right.”

    (On how they weigh needs versus best player available when drafting)
    Fisher: “We identified needs immediately after the season was over. We addressed some of those needs in free agency, be it players that weren’t on our roster or re-signing players on our roster. We’ve strongly identified needs. But those needs, they vary. They can vary from round to round. It comes down to the actual pick. Then we’ll say, ‘Our guy was there all the time,’ and, ‘It wasn’t a need, it was the perfect fit.’ But, we have a good feel for, I think, how things are going to unfold and how we can fill the needs.”

    (On if this draft has a different feel considering the Rams have fewer picks than in recent years)
    Snead: “Good question. I think it’s definitely a different feel because it’s less picks. It may be a little less exciting, more boring. But, you still prepare the same. Right now, you’re focusing on the board and kind of setting that. Where we pick, we’ll let the board be the guide. Having the different picks, yes it’s going to be different, but I don’t think we’ll feel that until that night because the preparation is the same.”

    (On what positions he feels are strong in this draft class)
    Snead: “Wow, that would be a kind of tough one there. Punters and kickers are loaded. I’ll leave it at that.”

    (On if he still feels that he’s not panicked about the offensive line)
    Fisher: “Yeah, I feel good about it. I feel good about the direction we’re headed, and I’ll feel much better when the weekend is over. I feel good about it. We have options, and there are still options out there. We’re in constant communication with (T) Joe Barksdale, for example. We have options out there. I think one of the perceived needs out there, outside our building from our perspective is O-line, and we feel good about where we are right now. We’ve got some good young players on our roster that you’ve not seen play or haven’t played very much but we’re developing players currently on our roster. We feel good about it.”

    (On if they’re still interested in Barksdale and why they think he’s still unsigned)
    Fisher: “Yes and I don’t know. Yeah, we have interest in Joe. Things may not have worked out for them from the perspective of what they thought was going to happen. But, we have interest in Joe because he played some good football for us.”

    (On why he thinks offensive linemen appear to be better prepared to play in the NFL right away in recent years)
    Snead: “If you’re a guy on the offensive line and you’re good and you’ve started three years in college football, nowadays that’s 80-90 plays a game over the course of three years, depending on who you are. That’s just a lot of reps and you’re just gaining experience. Probably depending on the system you’re in and how that system translates to our game is whether that guy can step right in and play. Usually an offensive lineman, if he’s good, he will be more than just a one-year starter. He will have started two, three years, then come out. That’s just a lot of reps, so I think that experience helps translate right to this game.”

    (On this year’s group of offensive linemen prospects)
    Snead: “Other than kicker and punter, we felt early on in the process that there were some quality offensive linemen in this draft. You can rate the quality, but we felt depending on whether it’s an ‘A guy, B guy,’ whatever it is, we thought there was a lot of linemen that could help any football team. I think that was a little bit of a guidepost as we went into the offseason.”

    (On if this group of offensive linemen has a lot of versatile players)
    Snead: “I don’t know if it’s more than normal because I think every year we go into the meeting and you’ve got a board and you’ve got this tape where you put it. Let’s call it left tackle, right tackle, (offensive guard), center. We always straddle the line if we think they’re versatile. I’m not sure there’s any more this year, but there are a lot of guys out there that we think can play multiple positions. I think Coach Fisher will say, when he’s sitting there probably during the week with his coaches trying to figure out that 46-man roster and that Sunday morning and you’re down to seven or eight OL, you’ve got to be able to do more than one thing.”

    (On if the offensive linemen are more difficult to evaluate because of the spread offense)
    Fisher: “From one standpoint I would say, yes. You’re seeing a lot of wide splits and two-point stances and things like that. But, we benefit from the ability to look at bowl games. Senior Bowl, for example, they come in, put their hand in the dirt, line up at three-point stance and then you watch them develop and improve over the course of the week. Then, obviously, the combine and the pro days and what have you. You’re looking for athletic ability and there are a lot of really talented athletes out there in this draft, from an offensive line standpoint with the flexibility that was asked about. By and large, as far as this year’s concerned, it’s a very good group.”

    (On if it is possible that they would take an edge-rusher at No. 10)
    Fisher: “It’s very possible, yes. We like defensive players here. Good defensive players. Can’t get enough.”

    (On if they would find a way to get said pass rusher on the field)
    Fisher: “Yes. We would. Week 1.”
    Snead: “Pressure, pressure, pressure.”

    (On how they deal with new character information on players that may come up this close to the draft in reference to draft prospect Shane Ray)
    Snead: “You don’t move him on the board. You may put a cautionary sticker on him. He is where he is. You do have to go back and follow up and do a little work on the character to see kind of the who, what, when where – all of that out – and kind of figure that out. With him, whether he was a first round pick or this causes him to fall, he was going to face adversity in life. This is the first adversity that he’s facing maybe as a draftee or NFL player. Like any of us, and I think he said it in his quote, he’s going to have to make better decisions and time will tell. But, you’re going to face adversity whether you did this or not and this is it for him and it’s up to him now. It’s in his hands, how he handles it.”

    (On Coach Fisher’s thoughts on the previous question)
    Fisher: “I completely agree with Les. We have a short amount of time to get as much information as we can and then we’ll discuss the information that we have and then we’ll adjust it accordingly.”

    (On if Coach Fisher can see a scenario in this draft where the team does not take a quarterback in the first couple rounds)
    Fisher: “Well, there’s a possibility to take a quarterback or not take a quarterback. It really depends on how things unfold. Aside from the top two, which I think everyone assumes will be gone, there are some players in this draft that can come in and help you. We’re very excited about what we’ve seen here the last week and a half with Nick (Foles) and what he’s done in the offseason program. I think we’re better at the position. We’re healthy right now and there’s some good things ahead as far as that’s concerned. It doesn’t mean to say there’s not a guy at a certain point that we like that we can pass up.”

    (On the benefits of the private workouts)
    Fisher: “The perception is, you fly into town, you work the player out and you leave and that’s not necessarily the case. We spend quality time with the player in the classroom. We get him on the board. It’s an extensive interview. We actually spend at least the same amount of time in the classroom as we do on the field. It’s extremely valuable.”

    Snead: “What’s also neat about that is you can see them in their offense and whatever that is, whatever style that is. They do their pro day – it’s scripted. But, I’ve enjoyed being able to see our coaches come in and let them throw the routes we’re going to be running. But the nice thing is to see those guys because they haven’t been practicing those routes, to see them adjust. Because they may flutter the first ball and then if they can go, ‘Wait a minute, I got this now’ and get the timing down – it’s pretty neat to see.”

    (On what they have seen from Foles since he has been here)
    Fisher: “You got to see it when we introduced him to you, it’s the personality. It’s the competitiveness. It’s the leadership qualities that he has. We started our offseason program a week ago Monday and we had 100 percent attendance. Nick was right in the middle of it, really excited about meeting all the younger players. The offseason program at this point does give offensive players permission to throw the ball without the coaches on the field. Nick’s reports are that those sessions have been great. He’s had three or four sessions with the guys. He’s really impressed with the guys that we’ve surrounded him with and guys are very excited about having him here.”

    (On if they feel like they have flexibility with the No. 10 overall pick to get a variety of skilled players at various positions)
    Snead: “I think, yeah. When you’re picking 10, there’s going to be more than one good football player that you’re staring at, just that’s the nature of picking 10 versus somewhere a little bit later. There’s flexibility and you fine tune it and like we said, best player available – that’s probably subjective based on what draftnik you ask and not counting the teams out there. Normally, at (No.) 10 there’s going to be more than one good football player and I think at that point we’ll try to make the best pick that helps this team.”

    Fisher: “So what he’s saying is, we could move up, stay where we are or move down. We have options.”
    Snead: “I thought that was straight forward. I gave you exactly what we’re going to do.”

    (On why they workout out QBs Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota when most people believe those two prospects will be off the board)
    Snead: “Number one, it’s due diligence. There’s over 8,000 pages of noise out there. But, when you run some mock draft scenarios and the quarterbacks are falling to you, you don’t want that to occur and you didn’t prepare for it. Obviously, if you did the percentages, it’s probably not occurring. But, if you want to count it as doing your due diligence that’s what it is.”

    (On projecting how quarterbacks will fit into a pro-style offense that may have run a spread in college)
    Fisher: “You start from a snap for example. Typically, the majority of their snaps were in shotgun, so now they transition to this level and they’re under center. In the shotgun offenses now, they’re complicated but they’re simplified in their own way. So the quarterback is either using some type of play-action and he’s got one read. In our game, we have progressions that we refer to. For a quarterback to have to go from the shotgun offense to under center with progressions, it’s a significant change. Of course, from a defensive standpoint obviously the defense is going to be a little bit more complicated. There’s footwork involved. There’s releases involved. There’s touch involved. Different types of throws involved that by in large are different than what they’re used to.”

    (On how this year’s draft class compares to previous draft classes)
    Snead: “Every year’s different because positions are letters in the alphabet basically and it’s the humans under those positions that make up the draft, so I don’t know. Some positions are deeper than others and all of that and that’s just probably depending on the year. It’s interesting. I always say this about this QB draft is I think we know there’s two. It seems like every time you look up there’s two. Human nature says one guy is going to prove everybody wrong. They have to. If you’re one of those other guys, you’re watching this every day and going, ‘You know what? I’m showing them.’ I think that’s the important part is humans make up the draft. It’s not necessarily the letters in the alphabet that do.”

    (On exercising the option on DT Michael Brockers contract, how he played last season and only being 24-years old)
    Fisher: “Well, those are the reasons that we exercised the option. One because of his age and his production. We feel like he’s got a lot of years left and we want to keep him in this program, so we’re very excited about that. On the contrary, we also elected not to exercise (S) Mark Barron’s option. That wasn’t our option – just for the record – that was Tampa’s (Buccaneers) option we traded for. We felt like Mark’s important to us. We felt from a big picture standpoint we would be better suited to try to re-do and extend his contract prior to that deadline.”

    (On if Barron’s option is large because of where he was drafted)
    Fisher: “Yes, that’s correct. Again, that was Tampa Bay’s deal with him. We acquired it, but now we have the option so we have every intention of getting him done.”

    (On how WR Brian Quick is progressing)
    Fisher: “Progress has been really good. Talking with ‘Reg’ (Reggie Scott, Director of Sports Medicine and Performance) just recently this week – we’re very excited. I saw Brian this morning and he’s very encouraged. From a timing standpoint, it’s camp, it’s OTAs potentially with protection, but I don’t think there’s going to be an issue with him missing – at this point – with him missing much time in camp.”

    Snead: “We have a basketball hoop back there and about a month or two ago I saw him dunk a basketball. You might not like that Coach…”

    Fisher: “It was with his other arm.”

    Snead: “Yes, my bad.”

    (On if this year’s wide receiver class is on par with last year’s)
    Snead: “Last year I did say they were going to do a ‘30-for-30’ on that group. I haven’t gone there with this group yet. I think because of college football, because of the high school football, because you’re throwing the ball around more from youth football on up, there’s a lot more good receivers than in the past. I think that’s just the nature of that. This is a good crop. There’s going to be some guys drafted in this first round and probably the second round and even later that are going to make plays. I think the guy who has the best rookie year, it probably depends on where he lands and how stable his QB is and the offense and all that. I think you’ll see that. That’s why you see some guys who are picked maybe not necessarily early but a little later have better years than the guys picked earlier.”

    (On if he’s ever had a team where he’s had so many returning players from the previous year)
    Fisher: “I think it shows the progress we’ve made since the time we got here and the numbers we had on the active roster before the draft and look at the numbers of college free agents that we’ve brought in. Those numbers at the end of the draft will be down, particularly because we have a lot of guys under contract. It’s nice to look at the depth chart right now and have a good feel about the depth chart as compared to a couple of years ago when we had blank spaces at many, many positions. We feel like we’ve improved and we also feel like not only with what we did in free agency, but what we’re getting ready to do here this weekend is really going to help us.”

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    The too little too late routine is a Kroenke schtick. It has no basis in reality. Until the dome arrangement went through arbitration, St. Louis could not do anything.

    Bernie’s actually good on that.

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-stadium-plan-deserves-a-chance/article_07b205e5-34cd-5d54-997b-991dce328e84.html

    The bogus charge of “too little, too late” is preposterous.

    In 2012 the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission voted to enter arbitration with the Rams in a dispute over the Edward Jones Dome’s status as a “top tier” NFL venue. In early 2013, a panel of arbitrators ruled in favor of the Rams, a decision that triggered Kroenke’s stadium-lease escape clause.

    St. Louis needed time to regroup, but it didn’t take long. In 2013 — soon after the arbitration ruling — Peacock quietly went to work behind the scenes to formulate a new-stadium strategy.

    This was a difficult assignment, made more challenging by the Rams’ continued losing and Kroenke’s steady alienation of his fan base. But that plan was revealed Friday.

    Peacock’s initiative took less than two full years. That hardly fits the “too little, too late” bunk. It isn’t easy to get new stadiums off the ground.

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    . Logically, I totally get that. Had Peacock given this proposal a couple of years ago, before the lease expired, than maybe none of this happens. It’s true right? St. louis didn’t hold up to it’s part of the agreement, so the Rams have every right to go.

    The too little too late routine is a Kroenke schtick. It has no basis in reality. Until the dome arrangement went through arbitration, St. Louis could not do anything.

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    Myles Simmons ‏@MylesASimmons

    Fisher did provide update on @Bquick_SC, saying that he should be ready for training camp. Possibly could be in OTAs with restrictions, too.

    Will have a longer write in a bit, but basically… 1) Draft board is pretty set 2) Any position is pretty much in play at 10—including DL

    Snead at one point said they could move up, stand pat, or trade down. So…yeah, as I said, don’t expect much to come out of that.

    As you’d expect, Fisher/Snead basically spent their presser saying that they were keeping their options open for No. 10.

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    St. Louis Rams @STLouisRams

    Les Snead: “When you are picking 10th, there will be good football players available.” #RamsDraft

    Jeff Fisher said the team is still interested in re-signing offensive lineman Joe Barksdale.

    Les Snead said he (and his team) has gone over 8,000 pages of NFL Draft information. #RamsDraft

    Les Snead (On his Draft Board already being set): “Pretty much… The foundation is there.” #RamsDraft

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    Jim Thomas @jthom1

    Fisher backed down a little on prior remarks (at NFL owners meetings) that he plans to take a quarterback.

    Fisher said “it’s very possible” team could take an edge rusher at No. 10. Both Shane Ray and Randy Gregory could be available there.

    Fisher: Rams still interested in Barksdale and are in “constant contact” with him.

    Snead: With only 6 picks, different feel to draft this year but preparation’s the same.

    Snead said Rams are receiving, making calls. Called it the “flirting stage” to try to figure out what everybody else is doing.

    Snead said personnel dept. and coaches have gone through 8,000 pages of draft info over last three weeks.

    Fisher likened it to Friday of game week: “The game plan’s in; you’re prepared to play.”

    At pre-draft press conference, Fisher & Snead said board is basically set other than a little fine tuning.

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    Ron Clements @Ron_Clements

    #Rams Snead on 2015 rookie WRs: “The guy who has the best rookie year, it probably depends on where he lands and how stable his QB is.” #NFL

    #Rams GM Les Snead said the 2015 #NFLDraft WR class “is a good crop” with guys drafted each day who “are going to make plays.” #NFL

    I guarantee you the Texas team will win the #Mavericks-#Rockets game. #NBA

    Fisher on #Rams owning 10th pick of the #NFLDraft: “We could move up, stay where we are or move down. We have options.” That’s cleared up.

    Fisher said player visits are “extremely valuable” and #Rams have done their due diligence on players, namely the QBs. #NFL #NFLDraft

    Fisher: #Rams are “very excited” about Nick Foles at QB, doesn’t expect to draft a QB in 1st rd, but “at a certain point,” will take one.

    #Rams have not moved #Mizzou DE Shane Ray on their #NFLDraft board, but have “put a cautionary sticker on him,” GM Les Snead said. #NFL

    #Rams have over 8,000 pages of information compiled on #NFLDraft prospects. GM Les Snead said info collected over last 3 weeks. #NFL #STL

    Would #Rams take yet another pass rusher in first round? Fisher: “It’s very possible,yes.We like defensive players here…Can’t get enough.”

    #Rams GM Les Snead on which positions in #NFLDraft class are strong: “…kind of tough one there. Punters and kickers are loaded.” haha

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    NO. Snead put in the deal that the future compensation issue for Bradford’s health is off, if he is traded. We went through this before. We keep their 2cd round pick and we owe them nothing if he isn’t an Iggle.

    That’s right. I spaced that.

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    Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

    Eagles acquired Bradford to be their QB. No trade pawn. He’d only sign ext w Philly with no-trade clause. Wants to play for Chip & Shurmur

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    It is my understanding that if the Eagles cut or trade Bradford that they Eagles would have no dead money. Bradford’s salary is of almost $13M is not guaranteed. (The Rams do have $3,595,000 in dead money because of the prorated signing bonus given to Bradford.) Also if Bradford is cut (not traded) by the Eagles the Rams also have to give the Eagles a 2016 3rd round draft choice.

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    8. Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa
    16. La’el Collins, OT, LSU
    21. Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Fla.)
    25. D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida
    26. Cameron Erving, C, Florida State
    28. Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford
    33. T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh
    39. Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon
    40. Donovan Smith, OT, Penn State
    52. Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M
    53. Laken Tomlinson, G, Duke
    56. A.J. Cann, G, South Carolina
    73. Mitch Morse, C, Missouri
    82. Daryl Williams, OT, Oklahoma
    85. Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State
    87. Ali Marpet, OT, Hobart
    90. Tre’ Jackson, G, Florida State
    99. Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon

    18 OL in his top 100.

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    Peter Schrager ‏@PSchrags

    Andrus Peat will be off the board by 15. Told by multiple teams he may be the most NFL-ready left tackle in this draft.

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    On taking Andrus Peat for Rams in NFL Nation mock draft

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/17962/on-taking-andrus-peat-in-nfl-nation-mock-draft

    BRISTOL, Conn. — For those who don’t have access to television during the day, our 32 ESPN NFL Nation reporters are here at headquarters this week for meetings and to do the first-ever televised NFL Nation mock draft.

    We went through the picks on ESPN Monday afternoon, and with the 10th pick in the draft I chose Stanford offensive tackle Andrus Peat for the St. Louis Rams. First, to be clear, I made that selection based on what I think the Rams would do in the scenario that was in front of me, not based on what I would do if I was making the choice.

    Just to reset before explaining why I went with Peat, here are the nine players who went before the Rams came on the clock: Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Leonard Williams, Amari Cooper, Dante Fowler Jr., Kevin White, Brandon Scherff, Vic Beasley and Ereck Flowers.

    With the top two quarterbacks, top two receivers and Scherff off the board, it’s my belief the Rams would be looking at this situation as choosing between Peat, Missouri defensive end Shane Ray, Louisville receiver DeVante Parker and Georgia running back Todd Gurley.

    For what it’s worth, trades are not an option in this mock so I couldn’t move down, which is another avenue the Rams would surely consider in this scenario. But that begs the question that if the value isn’t that good for the Rams for any players here, then what player would be enough for a team to want to move up and give up valuable picks to do it? It’s always possible, sure, but the reality is that the 10th spot isn’t a great one to have this year.

    So here’s my line of thinking on going with Peat over the others I mentioned: In the given situation, it’s entirely possible that a guy like Ray or Parker or Gurley will be rated higher on the Rams’ board. As a general rule, you don’t stray from your board in search of need. But I don’t think the difference between Peat and Parker, for example, would be enough for the Rams to ignore the need. In other words, the need for help on the offensive line could bridge the gap between the value of the two players.

    Peat has some work to do, and I wonder if his lack of mean streak concerns the Rams. But he comes from a power-run-heavy offense at Stanford not much different than what the Rams run. Peat is a polished pass protector but still comes with the type of upside the Rams seem to lean toward on draft day.

    And there’s no denying the Rams like Peat. He came on a pre-draft visit and they’ve spent plenty of time scouting him. He’s one of many offensive linemen who have come through Rams Park, which makes it hard to know who they like the most. If Scherff fell the Rams would undoubtedly have interest, and Flowers would also likely be in the discussion if he makes it to No. 10.

    After having conversations with scouts around the league, there’s a strong belief that Peat is being undervalued in the media mock drafts versus how teams view him, so this range is just about right for him. It’s certainly not sexy, and drafting Peat isn’t the perfect marriage of value and need, but it’s close enough for the Rams to make the move if this scenario played out Thursday night.

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    Taking a look at fifth-year options for 2012 first-round picks

    by Michael David Smith on April 9, 2015

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/09/taking-a-look-at-fifth-year-options-for-2012-first-round-picks/

    $6.1 million option on defensive tackle Michael Brockers.

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    McGinn is the new Rick Gosselin. Gosselin had good connections within the league.

    Yeah he’s good, a must read.

    Then of course there’s also this. n

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    A closer look at the ‘other’ quarterbacks and the Rams

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/17677/a-closer-look-at-the-other-quarterbacks-and-the-rams

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The standard perception among NFL draft pundits is that this year’s quarterback class is limited to the two stars at the top of the list: Florida State’s Jameis Winston and Oregon’s Marcus Mariota.

    Our group at Scouts, Inc. has the biggest drop off from No. 2 (Mariota) to No. 3 (Baylor’s Bryce Petty) in terms of grades in any draft class over the past decade. Mariota has a grade of 93 and Petty checks in at 71.

    And while that might be a good reason to believe the quarterback class doesn’t offer much besides a whole lot of questions after that top duo, there’s also some statistical history that would indicate there might be value to be found beyond Winston and Mariota. That could be good news for the St. Louis Rams, a team that has made clear its interest in quarterbacks but doesn’t have the draft position to land either of the top two.

    To wit, courtesy of ESPN Stats & Information:

    Half of the quarterbacks taken in the second and third rounds between 2011 and 2014 are projected starters in 2015. It’s a list that includes Seattle’s Russell Wilson, San Francisco’s Colin Kaepernick and the Rams’ Nick Foles, among others.

    Since 2011, quarterbacks taken in the second or third rounds have combined for a better record, total QBR and more than double the playoff wins than first rounders taken in that span.

    Each of the past three Super Bowls has featured a starting quarterback taken in the second or third round.

    Of course, nothing is guaranteed when it comes to any players in the draft, especially quarterbacks. The Rams find themselves in a position where they’re very interested in quarterbacks but will have no shot at Winston or Mariota. Which means they could be in the market to take the next signal-caller available. In addition to the top two, they’ve worked out Petty, UCLA’s Brett Hundley, Colorado State’s Garrett Grayson and Oregon State’s Sean Mannion.

    With that in mind, let’s take a look at the next tier of quarterbacks after Mariota and Winston (all statistical tidbits courtesy of ESPN Stats & Information):

    Bryce Petty

    Petty put up video game numbers for Baylor and possesses better-than-advertised athleticism and perhaps the strongest arm of the rest of the group. He led all FBS quarterbacks last season with 20 touchdown passes on throws 20 yards or longer, with 13 of those traveling 30 yards or longer in the air. Only four other FBS quarterbacks completed more than 13 throws of that distance all season. In the past two seasons, Petty was one of three quarterbacks in a Power 5 conference to complete at least 60 percent of his throws combined with an average air yards distance of 10-plus yards.

    Of course, with Petty, the biggest question will always be whether he was merely a product of the Baylor system. He played only 48 snaps with five pass attempts from under center last season. It wasn’t until the Senior Bowl in January that Petty actually had to get a play call, spit it out in a huddle then execute it, which could make for an extremely steep learning curve in the NFL.

    Garrett Grayson

    Aside from Winston, one could argue Grayson is the most polished pocket passer in the draft. He threw 31 touchdowns and five interceptions from the pocket last season. He was second among quarterbacks with at least 100 attempts in yards per attempt (10.0), third in touchdown-interception differential and first in 20-plus-yard plays (60).

    The question with Grayson is whether his success was a function of playing lower-level competition. Grayson faced only three opponents with a top-40 defensive efficiency (Boise State, Utah State and Utah) last season. He threw three touchdowns and three interceptions in those games and was sacked 13 times of the 26 he had all season in those contests. In the 10 other games, he had 29 touchdowns against just four interceptions.

    Brett Hundley

    Hundley probably isn’t far behind Mariota when it comes to speed, athleticism and running ability. He had 510 scrambling yards on third down alone in 2014 and escaped pressure 18 times for gains of at least 10 yards. From 2012-2014, only Johnny Manziel exceeded that production on the ground.

    On the other side of that, Hundley leaned on his escapability a little too much. He took 125 sacks in his career for the Bruins, 26 more than any other FBS quarterback during that time. He was sacked 75 times when facing four or fewer rushers, most among Power 5 conference quarterbacks since the start of 2012.

    Sean Mannion

    In terms of pure look, perhaps no quarterback looks the part more than Mannion, who uses that size to his advantage and stands firm in the pocket to excel against the blitz. Since the start of 2013, Mannion threw 27 of his 52 touchdown passes when facing five-plus pass-rushers. Only Winston had more in that time.

    But Mannion’s production dipped in 2014 after watching as Brandin Cooks took his talent to the NFL. Mannion’s total QBR dropped by 26.1 points from his junior to senior seasons, the second-largest decrease among FBS quarterbacks.

    Mannion completed 74.1 percent of his passes with an average of 10.6 yards per attempt when targeting Cooks in his career. Without Cooks, those numbers dropped to a 62.9 percent completion rate with an average of 6.9 yards per attempt to all other wideouts

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    Sam Farmer said on San Diego’s Xtra Sport 1360 said that Stan in in front to go to LA and that it will probably be one team only at first.

    He says it is ” 50-50 that the Rams play in 2016 ” because of so many years of false starts…. he is gunshy.

    -Says he doesn’t see two teams going in at once because it would drown the market at once. Probably one team… LA Rams.

    -Why Inglewood ? One team, 2nd Richest owner, stadium is like Disneyland.

    -He also brought up they might try to bring in Superbowl PSLs and Inglewood. Possibly 3-4 Superbowls in LA to help pay for the stadium. Pay for Superbowl PSLs.

    -Advantage of Carson is supposedly freeway access / it is a conventional straight NFL stadium.

    -Advantage of Inglewood is like LA Live, it has residential & retail component, you go and have a meal there & have the LA Live experience.

    -Two diametrically opposed experiences. One more traditional, one is NFL- Disneyland.

    UNFORTUNATELY for my St Louis friends, I could only find the audio podcast on the BBTLAR Facebook page. I looked at the radio station’s page and nothing is there.

    Hit the link for the Sam Farmer interview at Loose Cannons to hear.

    https://www.facebook.com/losangelesrams

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    Frank Coyle OT and guard rankings

    no source or link given in the post this is copied from: http://www.ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?5,567474,567474#msg-567474

    OT (Class Grade B+)

    1) Scherff (Blue Chip, Best Pulling, Most Developed, Top 10 – Comp Michael Roos)

    “He has drawn comparisons to Pro Bowler Micahel Roos and former Hawkeye Reilly Reiff who started as rookies. Physical package to warrant a top 10 overall choice with the Giants, Rams and Falcons interested. Blue Chip prospect with a highly developed skill set to handle the OT as a rookie, and possibly become a Pro Bowl Tackle. Highly developed tackle and overall skills and intangibles to become a fixture on the outside for a decade.”

    2) Peat (Blue Chip, Best Pass, Top 10 – Comp Jake Long)

    He is very similar to takle Jake Long in size, AA and functional strength that translate very well to the field. Young complete tackle with Pro Bowl talent. Clubs like the Falcons, Rams and Giants interested in the first round.

    3) Flowers (Red Chip, Strongest, Top 20 – Comp Ryan Clady)

    He compares to Pro Bowler Ryan Clady in physical skills. All the components to become a high quality pro with further refinement of his natural athleticism. Top 20 prospect and first round pick. Probable rookie starter off his natural talent and high LOD, though initially at right tackle. Potential Pro Bowl tackle with dominant skills to move early to left tackle.

    4) Clemmings (Red Chip, Best Athlete, Top 20 – Comp Tyron Smith)

    Top 20 prospect with the natural talent , size and development to become a starting tackle, though his game is not complete currently. Type of prospect with left tackle skill set and one that will be over drafted over clear upside potential. Big time left tackle eventually.

    5) Humphries (Rising, Top 40 – Eugene Monroe)

    Guard (Class Grade B )

    1) La’el Collins (Blue Chip, Best Pass, Most Developed, Top 15-20 – Comp Barndon Albert)

    Probable rookie starter with Pro Bowl talent. Top 15-20 prospect with the versatility to excel at either guard or tackle.

    2) A.J. Cann (Red Chip, Best Run, Top 50 – Comp Jahri Evans)

    He is cut in the mold of tough, aggressive NFL guards like Jahri Evans and Larry Warford who have gone to have Pro Bowl careers. Over his career, he graded out very well vs top competition with the ability to adjust to game situations. Physical tough lineman with very good technique and fine strength with the skill set and intangibles to become a Pro Bowl guard. Talented highly developed prospect with definite top 50 value with strong consideration by Giants, Raiders, Falcons and Dolphins.

    3) Laken Tomlinson (Rising, Toughest, Top 60-75 – Comp Ben Grubbs)

    Talent to compete for a starting rookie job and a rising top 60-75 prospect who appears to be a solid 2nd day pick in this deep class. Probable NFL starter and good early round addition with the skill set to surprise and have a strong pro career.

    4) Tre’ Jackson (Top 75 – Comp Larry Warford)

    He projects to the 3rd round and is similar to Larry Warford in size, AA, and intangibles. Tough savvy blocker who is currently at a high level with early starting ability and a nice LOD in key areas. Top 75 prospect with the skill set and intangibles to have a long career inside. Durable guard with the development to rank among the better interior linemen within a short time.

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    7. Jordan Taylor WR Rice

    Jordan Taylor, WR
    Height/Weight: 6-4 / 209 lbs.

    STRENGTHS: He possesses a legitimate NFL frame with long arms (32 3/8″). He has nice size and shows good body control. Uses his size to his advantage and knows how to highpoint the football. For a long strider he showed an above average amount of quickness in and out of his breaks at times. Performed well during his week of practices at the East-West Shrine Game and could be a player who has a more productive career in the NFL than he did in college.

    WEAKNESSES: He has limited run-after-the-catch ability and average speed and elusiveness. Watching him he looks like he lacks that top gear and may be more of a possession catcher who could struggle to get separation at times. He tends to round into his cuts. Taylor uses his body to shield defenders. For his size he should be a better blocker.

    Player Overview

    Recruited as an “athlete” when he arrived at Rice he made impressive one handed catch during his first spring practice and the rest is history. He was recognized his senior season with second-team All Conference-USA honors after leading the Owls in receptions (54), receiving yards (842), and touchdowns (7). It also marked the third straight season Taylor led the offense in catches and yards. He led the team in touchdowns in two of the last three years and finished second in 2012.

    Taylor was invited to play in the East-West Shrine Game after establishing himself as one of the top receivers in the Conference-USA. His back-to-back seasons as second team All-Conference-USA over the last two years help make Taylor a legit NFL prospect.

    Upon his arrival in St. Petersburg for the all-star game about six pounds lighter than his normal playing weight after battling the flu. Taylor said his normal playing weight is between “210 and 215” the weight he hopes to be back at for his Pro Day. His college major in Kinesiology, also known as human kinetics may be helping him on the field. It appears his time studying the way the human body moves and reacts has translated to his ability to get open on the field.

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    It probably wouldn’t go over very well with the fan base but it can’t be ruled out that the Rams might find the value of a top pass-rusher too good to pass on.

    Makes sense. And, I don’t have a preference, myself. I don’t think they can go wrong at 10 no matter what they do.

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    Rams draft preview: Defensive line

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/17921/rams-draft-preview-defensive-line

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The NFL draft is set to begin April 30 and the St. Louis Rams hold six picks in this year’s selection process. For the next week and a half, we’ll take a look at a different position every day with what the Rams have in place at a position, what they need, when they might address it and some possible fits.

    We continue the countdown with a look at this year’s crop of defensive linemen.

    In place: Robert Quinn, Chris Long, William Hayes, Eugene Sims, Ethan Westbrooks, Michael Brockers, Aaron Donald, Nick Fairley, Mason Brodine, Doug Worthington.

    What’s needed: Looking at the names listed above, the easy answer here would be “nothing.” But that’s actually pretty shortsighted. The Rams have no immediate need for help on the defensive line. Quinn and Long are the starters outside with Brockers and Donald on the inside. Hayes, Sims and Fairley are all in the mix to provide depth. That’s seven players and doesn’t even include the talented young Westbrooks. All figure to have a spot moving forward. So there’s no pressing situation here for the Rams to add for 2015. It’s what’s set to happen after 2015 that might raise some alarms on where the team stands on the defensive line. Long is due to count $14.25 million against the salary cap next season, a hefty number for a player who is still bouncing back from last year’s injury. Hayes and Sims will be unrestricted free agents. The Rams are likely to keep Brockers on his fifth-year option and possibly negotiate an extension with him but until either of those things are done, only Donald is under team control for 2016 at this moment amongst tackles. So it might behoove the Rams to plan for the future, especially at end, in this year’s draft. That’s particularly true given that this year’s draft class appears loaded with pass-rushers.

    Possible fits: There’s no shortage of talent available this year on the defensive line, though most of that is in the form of pass-rushers and there are questions whether those pass-rushers actually fit into roles as ends in 4-3 defenses or are more stand-up linebackers in a 3-4. USC’s Leonard Williams is regarded as the best prospect among down linemen but will almost certainly go before the Rams pick. After that, Florida’s Dante Fowler Jr., Clemson’s Vic Beasley and Missouri’s Shane Ray are also considered top talents with Kentucky’s Bud Dupree and Nebraska’s Randy Gregory also will garner plenty of attention. Gregory is the biggest conundrum because of off the field issues but is probably a top five talent on the field. Of that group, Ray, Beasley, Dupree and Fowler are probably the players with the size or the frame to add the size to fit in with the Rams. Likewise, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is as adept as any coach in the league at finding the best way to use pass-rushers. At tackle, only Danny Shelton really stands out in a fairly weak crop, though players like Oklahoma’s Jordan Phillips, Florida State’s Eddie Goldman and Texas’ Malcom Brown should also get early consideration.

    Verdict: It probably wouldn’t go over very well with the fan base but it can’t be ruled out that the Rams might find the value of a top pass-rusher too good to pass on. I wouldn’t expect them to make much of a move on a defensive tackle, though it wouldn’t be a huge surprise if they took one later in the draft. But as for early picks, if someone like Fowler, Beasley or Ray slipped to 10 and the Rams have him rated the highest player on the board, it wouldn’t surprise if they took one. Plus, Rams coach Jeff Fisher has never been one to shy away from stockpiling pass-rushers. At No. 10, the Rams simply aren’t in a great spot to marry value and need so they might find value in one of the pass-rushers that’s just too good to pass up.

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    Eagles still not showing real commitment to Bradford

    Mike Florio

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/26/eagles-still-not-showing-real-commitment-to-bradford/

    After the Eagles surprisingly traded for quarterback Sam Bradford in March, coach Chip Kelly insisted that Bradford wasn’t a stepping stone toward getting up the board to reunite with Marcus Mariota. Since then, the Eagles have done nothing to take that possibility off the table.

    As PFT reported on Wednesday, no meaningful contract talks have occurred between the Eagles and Bradford, who is due to make $12.985 million in 2015, the final year of his pre-wage-scale rookie deal. The Eagles would like to knock down the cap number, and Bradford would like a chance to re-establish himself. While money is a factor, security is, too; Bradford wants any new deal would to ensure that he won’t be shipped to the Browns or elsewhere, especially since a multi-year contract would make Bradford more valuable to a team that would acquire his rights for more than one season.

    The absence of a true commitment to Bradford keeps the possibility of another trade in play. Recently, PFT laid out the pieces of a three-way deal that would put Bradford in Cleveland, Mariota (and possibly Johnny Manziel) in Philly, and multiple picks in the pocket of a team that trades out of the top five.

    The Eagles possibly could get there by giving up Bradford, the 20th pick in 2015, a first-round pick in 2016, and maybe another pick or two. Whether that amounts to mortgaging the future isn’t known.

    That said, why is a mortgage a bad thing? For most, it’s the only way to buy a house. For the Eagles, a mortgage for Mariota could not only buy a house but also eventually put a Lombardi Trophy in the case.

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    Bill Polian

    ESPN NFL Insider Bill Polian weighs in on the strength of the 2015 NFL draft class, front office preparation for the draft, whether or not he would trade for either top QB and more.

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=12755800&s=espn&s=espn

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    Draft in depth: Defensive backs

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot…cle_d51b7525-1e9a-51a8-9e03-203aec005216.html

    CREAM OF THE CROP

    Player, position, school, height, weight

    TRAE WAYNES, CB, Michigan State, 6-0, 186

    Good luck running by him; some had him timed in 4.2s at Combine.

    MARCUS PETERS, CB, Washington, 6-0, 197

    Tons of talent, but is he coachable? Was dismissed from team in ’14.

    KEVIN JOHNSON, CB, Wake Forest, 6-0, 188

    Lacks strength and bulk, but is very fluid and polished in coverage.

    LANDON COLLINS, S, Alabama, 6-0, 228

    Much better in box than in coverage; led Tide in tackles (103) in ‘14.

    BYRON JONES, CB/FS, Connecticut, 6-1, 199

    Jumped onto everyone’s radar with Combine record broad jump (12-3).

    DON’T OVERLOOK

    Jalen Collins, CB, Louisiana St.

    Ronald Darby, CB, Florida St.

    Quinten Rollins, CB/FS, Miami (Ohio)

    Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah

    P.J. Williams, CB, Florida St.

    FUN FACT

    Rollins played basketball his first four seasons at Miami (Ohio), and was a point guard and a two-time captain. Was Mid-American Conference defensive player of the year in 2014, his only year playing college football.

    QUOTABLE

    “He’s got more red flags than the Soviet Union.”

    —Radio analyst and former Rams assistant coach RICK VENTURI, on the issues surrounding Washington’s Peters.

    RAMS’ NEEDS

    As is the case at many positions on the roster, the Rams have everybody back from last season. That includes the top six corners, headed by Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson and E.J. Gaines. And the top five safeties return, headed by the McSafeties — T.J. McDonald and Rodney McLeod. Jenkins and Johnson are free agents after next season, so the Rams could be looking at cornerback.

    RATING THE FIELD

    It’s a representative year at cornerback but a down year at safety. There could be five or six corners taken in Round 1, with Waynes generally considered the best of the bunch. But at safety, only strong safety Landon Collins is expected to go in the opening round. The best bets at free safety could be potential converted corners such as Jones, Rollins and Rowe.

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    Rating the NFL draft prospects: Quarterbacks

    By Bob McGinn of the Journal Sentinel

    from off the net

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    jrry32

    Keep in mind that McGinn’s piece warned us about RGIII back when the media tricked a lot of us (including me) into believing he was a high character guy.

    “He (RGIII) has better arm action and is more accurate with his deep ball, but he’s not as good as Cam Newton,” a fourth scout said. “As much as is written about his athleticism, his athleticism under duress in the pocket isn’t even close to Cam Newton’s. This guy, the only way he gets big plays with his feet is if he’s got a wide-open field and the sea opens for him. He’s got a little bit of a selfish streak, too. Everybody was laying on Cam, but for some reason this guy has become gloves off. He doesn’t treat anybody good.” Another scout also questioned the way Griffin deals with people.

    I still think Winston, Mariota, and Grayson are the guys to come away with in this class.

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    Rating the NFL draft prospects: Quarterbacks

    By Bob McGinn of the Journal Sentinel

    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-nfl-draft-prospects-quarterbacks-b99486130z1-301167651.html

    The Journal Sentinel’s Bob McGinn assesses the top quarterbacks in next week’s draft. Included is each player’s height, weight, 40-yard dash time and projected round.

    1. MARCUS MARIOTA, Oregon (6-3 ½, 222, 4.45, 1): Captured 2014 Heisman Trophy with the second-largest margin of victory ever. “He has a strong arm,” one scout said. “He throws on the move as well as anybody I’ve seen. Mechanics are good. He threw three interceptions this year. Only negative is he carries the ball loose and he has fumbled. He’s got the athletic ability to be an all-time great.” Posted a 36-5 record and 121.3 passer rating (128.4 in ’14) on the NFL scale. “He’s like a better Colin Kaepernick,” another scout said. “This guy is smarter and farther along.” Fourth-year junior was lightly recruited out of Honolulu. Tied Brett Hundley for best vertical jump (36 inches) among QBs and had the best 20-yard shuttle (6.87). His 40 time wasn’t as good as Michael Vick’s 4.33 in 2001 or Robert Griffin III’s 4.36 in 2012, but it was easily the fastest at the position this year. “I would much rather have this guy than Winston,” a third scout said. “At least you’re going to get the best he has all the time.” Also rushed for 2,237 yards (6.6-yard average) and 29 touchdowns. “Ben (Roethlisberger) took everything in shotgun at Miami (Ohio), too,” a fourth scout said. “He doesn’t have Ben’s arm. I do like a lot of things he brings to the table. But that running thing in the NFL? The guy (Griffin III) who plays for the Redskins found out that doesn’t work.” Scored 33 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test.

    2. JAMEIS WINSTON, Florida State (6-4, 231, 4.96, 1):Third-year sophomore won the Heisman Trophy in 2013 for the national champion Seminoles. “He’s an unbelievable competitor,” said one scout. “The football stuff, he embraces that. He’s not a great athlete, but he has great instincts, awareness and a knack in the pocket. He’s not going to dominate you just off pure physical ability. He will beat you with his mind, his patience. He sees things at a rate that a lot of good quarterbacks in the league take four, five years to see.” Engineered numerous fourth-quarter come-from-behind victories in posting a 26-1 record and passer rating of 107.9. Better in 2013 (125.8) than in ’14 (93.2), when his interception count swelled from 10 to 18. “I’ve seen too many interceptions,” another scout said. “He’s your drop-back guy, but he’s got that long release. It kind of reminds me of the guy who used to play for Marshall (Byron Leftwich).” Played right field for FSU in 2013 and served as the closer in ’14, using a mid-90s fastball to post a 1.94 earned run average in 60 career innings. “Jameis has gotten too big,” said a third scout. “In high school (Bessemer, Ala.) he was a quick-twitch athlete. Now he’s kind of sluggish.” Posted dismal workout numbers at the combine. “I had no idea he’d run that poorly,” a fourth scout said. “Quarterbacks without leg explosiveness have a terrible history. I don’t like his off-field and I don’t like the way he conducts himself on the field sometimes.” Wonderlic of 27.

    3. BRYCE PETTY, Baylor (6-3, 229, 4.83, 2): Battling to surpass Robert Griffin as coach Art Briles’ best NFL QB. “He plays in a kid’s offense, like a Thanksgiving Day game offense,” one scout said. “He’s going to have to be retooled. He’s got size, feet, quickness of release, a strong arm. How long will it take to reshape him?” Never called a play for the Bears in Briles’ high-octane, simplistic, shotgun attack. “I remember Art saying he’s a better passer than Griffin and a similar athlete but not as fast,” a second scout said. “If you’re an athlete, don’t you think you can get under center? Problem is, everybody wants instant success today.” Two-year starter from Midlothian, Texas. Played with a bad back most of 2014. Passer rating was 114.3. “He’s Christian Ponder-like with a better arm,” a third scout said. “Somebody’s trying to create something there. I’m not going to rule out that he won’t start some games. But then people will realize he has some deficiencies.” Wonderlic of 31. Said a fourth scout: “He’s accurate deep — at times. In a quarterback-friendly system he’s not very accurate (62.7%).”

    4. BRETT HUNDLEY, UCLA (6-3, 227, 4.63, 2): Fourth-year junior with 40 starts. “He has the physical tools,” one scout said. “Got a strong arm. Yes, he’ll be a starter at some point. It’s not a refined talent. Probably not unlike a Blake Bortles. He can be developed.” Biggest knock is accuracy. “He’s a running back playing quarterback, OK?” another scout said. Surpassed 100 passer rating all three seasons for resurgent Bruins, finishing at 103.7. Added 1,747 rushing yards and 30 TDs. According to one scout, his pro-day workout was the best of the leading QBs. “I wonder about how coachable this guy is,” another scout said. “There’s a lot of ability there.” Wonderlic of 26. From Chandler, Ariz.

    5. GARRETT GRAYSON, Colorado State (6-2 ½, 214, 4.75, 3-4):Started 35 games during an injury-riddled four-year career. “Good processor of the game,” one scout said. “Got a pretty quick mind. Average physical characteristics. At best he becomes a guy like Jon Kitna or (Ryan) Fitzpatrick. That’s not a negative. I see him better than Matt Flynn.” Broke his collarbone three times. Passer rating of 97.1. “Pocket guy,” another scout said. “Little better athlete than you think. He can at least escape the rush and get the ball off under duress.” Wonderlic of 20. From Vancouver, Wash. “He’s average, at best,” said a third scout. “Career backup probably.”

    6. SEAN MANNION, Oregon State (6-5 ½, 226, 5.10, 4-5): Started 43 of 47 games, rewriting the Beavers’ record book in a prostyle offense. His 13,600 passing yards rank eighth in Division I annals. “He spins a really good deep ball,” one scout said. “He’s very accurate and incredibly smart (Wonderlic of 40). People will knock him because of his 40 time, but he’s got good enough feet to move around and slide in the pocket. I just like his presence.” Coach’s son from Pleasanton, Calif. Beavers were just 5-7 in 2014. Passer rating is 89.5. “Long, slow delivery,” another scout said. “He reminds me of Derek Anderson, who came out of Oregon State 10 years ago. He’s everybody’s backup. This kid is so smart, he’s playing to every bit of his ability.”

    7. CODY FAJARDO, Nevada (6-1 ½, 223, 4.58, 6-7): Four-year starter with passer rating of 91.3. Rushed for a whopping 3,482 yards (5.5) and 44 TDs in a pistol offense. “He took over for Kaepernick,” one scout said. “He’s a better pure passer than Kaepernick but not as big or strong. Really a nice athlete. But he’s short and hot and cold.” Wonderlic of 31. “Not really an established or consistent passer,” another scout said. “Somebody that you could develop because of the athletic traits.” From Brea, Calif.

    8. CONNOR HALLIDAY, Washington State (6-3, 196, 4.9, 7-FA):Started for 2½ seasons and had an 88.2 passer rating. “He’s got a talented arm,” one scout said. “Plays in a wide-open system. He’s smart enough (Wonderlic of 22). He’ll need a little bit of work on his footwork, but he’s got enough to take a shot on.” Suffered a broken ankle Nov. 1 and still can’t work for scouts. “He finds the open guy well at times but then he throws into coverage too often,” another scout said. “Nobody there was sorry to see him go. I can’t find anybody there that liked this guy.” Out of Spokane, Wash.

    9. SHANE CARDEN, East Carolina (6-2, 218, 4.92, 7-FA): Three-year starter with a passer rating of 99.5. Same size as Brett Favre and bears facial resemblance. “He reminds me of Favre,” one scout said. “He’s got some swagger. Really good leadership ability. His physical skill is OK. Some quarterback coach is going to love him because of what’s in his heart and between his ears (Wonderlic of 25).” From Houston. “I like his mind,” said another scout. “Physically, I don’t think he’s going to have the arm.”

    10. ANTHONY BOONE, Duke (6-0, 218, 4.95, 7-FA): Made one start behind Sean Renfree in 2012 before becoming a two-year starter. “He’s won a lot of games,” one scout said. “He’s short. Just an average passer. He’s a camp quarterback that doesn’t really have enough up side.” Posted a passer rating of 79.9. Wonderlic of 20. From Weddington, N.C.

    OTHERS: Brandon Bridge, South Alabama; Bryan Bennett, Southeastern Louisiana; Taylor Heinicke, Old Dominion; Jerry Lovelocke, Prairie View A&M; Blake Sims, Alabama.

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    Iowa’s Brandon Scherff leads big crop

    April 24, 2015

    By Bob McGinn

    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/iowas-brandon-scherff-leads-big-crop-b99486134z1-301296701.html

    Green Bay — Offensive line is regarded as one of the richest positions in this NFL draft. Seven blockers appear headed for the first round, and possibly four more will go by the 50th pick.

    Strangely, there might not be an offensive lineman worthy of a top-10 pick even though 18 of them were taken that high in the last nine drafts.

    Brandon Scherff, clearly the best player available, has fewer negatives than just about any player in the entire draft. He’s about as safe as can be.

    The problem for many teams with early picks is they view Scherff as a better NFL guard than tackle, where he started on the left side at Iowa. His modest arm length (33 3/8 inches) and height (6 feet 4½) are more typical of inside than outside players at the pro level.

    Few teams want to draft an inside player in the top 10. The only pure guards taken that high in the last 20 years — Chris Naeole (No. 10, 1997), Chance Warmack (No. 10, ’13) and Jonathan Cooper (No. 7, ’13) — probably were mistakes.

    “Scherff isn’t dominant,” said an executive in personnel for an NFC team. “He’s not your typical top guy and he doesn’t have the length you want at tackle. How high do you pick a guy you’re projecting to guard?”

    Another personnel man insisted that Scherff had enough game to be considered comparable to the first offensive lineman taken in other drafts.

    “I was at Iowa pro day,” the scout said, “and he’s as athletic as anybody last year and as good as anybody last year. After Scherff, none of them belong with the top group from last year.”

    A Journal Sentinel poll of 19 personnel people this month underscored Scherff’s pre-eminent position. After the scouts listed their top five offensive linemen regardless of position, five points were assigned for a first-place vote, four for second and so on.

    Scherff piled up 86 points and 13 first-place votes, easily outdistancing Andrus Peat (53, three). Others with first-round credentials include La’el Collins (30, one), Cedric Ogbuehi (28, one), Cameron Erving (25), Ereck Flowers (25) and D.J. Humphries (25, one).

    Also receiving votes were Donovan Smith (six), T.J. Clemmings (four), Laken Tomlinson (two) and Jake Fisher (one).

    One might think the fact Scherff played for the Hawkeyes would be considered an immense plus by NFL teams.

    During Kirk Ferentz’ stint as offensive line coach from 1981-’89, NFL teams plucked 11 of his blockers, including three in the first round (Green Bay’s Ron Hallstrom, 1982) and three in the third (Green Bay’s Dave Croston, ’87).

    After spending six seasons as an offensive line coach in the NFL, Ferentz returned to Iowa City as head coach in 1999. In the drafts of 2000-’14, Iowa has had 13 offensive linemen selected.

    Ferentz has had able offensive line coaches such as Joe Philbin (1999-’02), but year after year he spends a large amount of time working individually with offensive linemen.

    “Kirk just does a great job,” one veteran scout said. “They’re always good technicians. They know how to kick-step, how to set, how to get their hands on people.”

    Because of the excellent training and tradition, however, several scouts said offensive linemen from Iowa scared them.

    “Iowa has a track record most of the time of getting two- and three-star players and developing them over the course of their careers,” said Phil Savage, executive director of the Senior Bowl and an NFL general manager and personnel director for 15 years.

    “They’re well-coached, they train hard, they are consistent in their work ethic and approach. Because of that development, are they close to being maxed out?”

    Since 2003, Iowa has had six offensive linemen taken in the top 100. The list includes guard Eric Steinbach (No. 33, 2003), center Bruce Nelson (No. 50, ’03), tackle-guard Robert Gallery (No. 2, ’04), tackle-guard Marshal Yanda (No. 87, ’07), tackle Bryan Bulaga (No. 23, ’10) and tackle Riley Reiff (No. 23, ’12).

    In light of those players, Savage was asked how he’d feel about selecting Scherff.

    “It would give me pause if I was taking him in the top 10,” replied Savage. “If I was taking him where some of those other guys went, in the second half of the first round or the top of the second, you’d feel great about it, probably.

    “I don’t think Scherff is an elite player. I think he’s a good, solid prospect.”

    Another veteran scout considered Iowa’s recent draft entries and said, “There’s been a lot of failures out of there. Kirk’s a good O-line coach so those guys end up getting coached as well as they’re ever going to be.

    “Then you get them to your camp and you think they’re going to get better, but that’s just the way they are.”

    In truth, those six high picks from Iowa have gotten a bum rap. It’s due largely to Gallery, who after flopping at tackle became a competitive guard in an eight-year career.

    Nelson was a bust, but the others all started for years. Steinbach became a top-five guard in Cincinnati but never made the Pro Bowl, something Yanda has done the last three seasons for Baltimore.

    Reiff has started at left tackle two of his three seasons in Detroit and is at least adequate. Bulaga has been a good player in Green Bay when he hasn’t been sidelined by injury.

    Scherff, from Denison, Iowa, joins Nelson, Gallery and Yanda as products of Iowa high schools. Reiff is from South Dakota, Bulaga from suburban Chicago.

    Three scouts said Scherff would be a better player than Bulaga. Although an inch shorter than Bulaga, Scherff ran a faster 40 (5.04 to 5.23), performed better vertical (32½ inches to 27½) and broad jumps (8-11 to 8-2), and had far larger hands (11 inches to 9¼).

    Probably the most apt comparison would be Zack Martin, the Dallas Cowboys’ right guard who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie after being drafted No. 16 last year.

    Martin (6-4, 309) was a four-year starter at left tackle for Notre Dame. He took his 32 7/8-inch arms inside and had a tremendous year.

    “Scherff’s similar to Zack Martin except he’s stronger,” one NFC executive said. “He’s a hell of an athlete. This guy is a 325-pound moose.”

    UNSUNG HERO

    Jon Feliciano, G, Miami: Last year, a Hurricanes lineman with athletic limitations, Brandon Linder, went to Jacksonville in the third round and started 15 games at RG. Feliciano (6-4, 325), another tough guy, is almost a carbon copy of Linder. He has guard-center versatility and a go-for-the-throat mentality that should make him a mid-round pick.

    SCOUTS’ NIGHTMARE

    Greg Mancz, C-G, Toledo: Four-year starter at RT, RG and center with legitimate athletic ability, good toughness and high intelligence. However, he underwent another shoulder surgery after the season and won’t be able to work out before the draft. If Mancz can stay on the field, he could be a swingman for a long time.

    QUOTE TO NOTE

    NFL personnel director: “That (low score on the Wonderlic) isn’t a big deal for tackles. It’s more of a big deal for guards.”

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    Would the Rams take a chance on Gregory?

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/would-the-rams-take-a-chance-on-gregory/article_096f2ce0-e7cc-566e-a583-cedae09a45f6.html

    If you’re looking for pass-rush ability, and pass-rush ability only, the “champion” in the 2015 draft seems to be Nebraska’s Randy Gregory.

    And in a draft littered with all kinds of elite-caliber edge-rushers, that’s quite a statement.

    “It’s a real good group,” said a veteran NFC scout, speaking on condition of anonymity. “They’re going to fly off the board.”

    It’s a group that includes Dante Fowler of Florida, Shane Ray of Missouri, Vic Beasley of Clemson and Bud Dupree of Kentucky at the head of the class. For purposes of the Post-Dispatch draft series some are listed as defensive ends and some are listed as linebackers.

    And oh yeah, there’s Gregory.

    “I didn’t scout all of those other guys,” said the scout. “But I’ve scouted a lot of them. And if they’re better than Randy Gregory, then holy (cow), this is one helluva year.

    “Because I don’t see how anybody can stop this guy once he’s going. He’s like an Aldon Smith or Jason Pierre-Paul type. He’s so long, so explosive, so fast, so athletic.”

    Gregory is an Air Force brat (both parents served) who moved eight times growing up. He went the junior-college route initially before landing at Nebraska. He burst on the scene in Lincoln in 2013 with 19 tackles for loss and 10½ sacks, earning team MVP honors.

    He then was slowed by nagging injuries last season but still finished with a team-high seven sacks as well as 10 tackles for loss.

    With the 2014 season in mind, there are some questions about his durability in the NFL, as well as questions about his ability to defend the run at a lean 6 feet 5, 235 pounds. But his instincts and natural pass-rush skills can take the breath away of even the most hardened scouts.

    “I had Randy Gregory as my top edge rusher, and once I started getting wind of the stuff off the field, I moved him behind Dante Fowler,” said former NFL scout and current NFL.com analyst Daniel Jeremiah. “So I continue to move him down a little bit, but ability-wise, I would put him up with anybody.”

    Those off-field issues make Gregory the biggest boom or bust prospect in the draft, surpassing even Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston on that front.

    Gregory failed a drug test at the NFL Scouting Combine, in February, and failed at least two more while playing at Nebraska.

    “I blame myself,” Gregory told NFL.com late last month. “And I know it sounds cliché, but there’s really no one else I can blame.”

    Gregory says those issues are behind him, but there have been indications from league sources that his off-field issues go beyond that.

    “He’s explosive. He can do anything athletically you’d ever want,” said Russ Lande, a former Rams scout who now works as a draft analyst for several media outlets. “But I would not take Gregory in the first round despite the rare physical talent. The odds of guys with that much baggage succeeding are slim and none.”

    Once regarded as a potential top-five pick and a certain top 10 selection, he now is expected to slide. How much so remains to be seen. But with so many other skilled edge-rushers available this year, why take a chance on Gregory?

    Lande’s opinion aside, no one expects Gregory to slide out of the first round. But he’s not going in the top five; that seems like a safe bet.

    In fact, when it’s time for the Rams to make their selection at No. 10 — assuming they don’t trade out of the spot either way —they could be staring at Gregory.

    Would they take another problem player from Nebraska — 19 years after their ill-fated selection of Cornhuskers running back Lawrence Phillips?

    No, the Rams don’t need another pass rusher. They have a roster brimming with them — from Robert Quinn to Chris Long to Aaron Donald — all the way to backup ends William Hayes and Eugene Sims, as well as recent free-agent linebacker pickup Akeem Ayers.

    But coach Jeff Fisher loves pass rushers and loves collecting them.

    “It would not be inconceivable to take another defensive end (or rush linebacker),” Fisher said last month. “It’s not out of the realm of possibilities.”

    There were Internet reports earlier in the pre-draft process that Gregory was scheduled to visit Rams Park. But such a visit could not be confirmed by the Post-Dispatch.

    Fisher and general manager Les Snead certainly haven’t been shy about drafting players with off-field issues. Cornerback Janoris Jenkins and linebacker Alec Ogletree are two examples.

    Last year, about a week after signing with the Rams as a undrafted free agent, former Florida State defensive back Greg Reid spent part of his spring in jail because of a probation violation for a past marijuana-related arrest.

    So the Rams could be tempted if Gregory is on the board. But that would mean ignoring more pressing needs, such as offensive linemen, in the first round.

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