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znModeratorWe got our cake and we can eat it.
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CoachO
SOME FOLLOW UP
I am not sure why some feel Austin has shown he is capable of running a complete route tree. Everything I have seen, from firsthand at training camp, attending the home games, to watching on tv, tells me that is just not the case.
He is slow to diagnose coverages, and when his route calls for him to run anything other than the “4 routes” he just doesn’t look like he is sure where he is supposed to go.
Teams play primarily zone coverage against the Rams, and that calls for him (and everyone else) to be able to find the soft spots in coverage, and get to the window.
It’s never as simple as just saying run a “go” route, and use your speed to get behind everyone. And that doesn’t even address his issues with getting off the LOS without having to run around the press coverage, and so throwing the timing off on his route.
One glaring example for me, is when they ask him to run an option route. Like the “arrow” route. This is the same route that Amendola made a living on here. Austin just doesn’t run it very well. Last year someone like T.J. Moe continually gets open, and catches the ball in tight spaces, running the exact same route. But when they try to run Austin, he either gets caught up in the traffic, or doesn’t get the proper depth on the route. This comes down to figuring out the mental part of the position.
I don’t think its by coincindence that four different QBs in the past two years have been unable to get him involved in the passing game. It’s not about dedicating the system to fit ONE player, its about that player fitting into the system. And thus far, Tavon Austin hasn’t shown that he can adapt his game at this level.
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znModeratorworst case scenario at 9 months he’d be ready at week 1. as a reference point bradford tore his acl october 20 2013. he was playing in preseason games week 3.
gurley was injured november 15 2014. about a month. so maybe week 3 of the regular season.
But, remember, although he can play after 9 months, he is not the player he was for several more months.
znModerator. assuming gurley is ready at the start of the season
I wouldn’t assume that. Technically he will be, but…really? Guys are not ready to be 100% until a while after the presumed “ready” point. That is, it’s 6-9 months and then some.
znModeratorI’d use him more on deep routes
for example.They did though. From what I saw, Hill wouldn’t throw them, Bradford and Clemens would, and with Davis they didn’t even bother.
That was one of the things they DID do with Austin. And I assume, they will continue doing it.
Teams just don’t throw long that much. It’s like anywhere from 2-3 times a game.
znModeratori don’t think he’ll ever be a primary feature of this or any offense, but i think we have yet to see the best of him. but he’s still got 71 receptions for 660 yards through two seasons.
I agree with that. I don’t think this whole issue has anything to do with how he is “utilized.” I think this whole issue has to do with what Austin is good at.
When he becomes a better receiver—capable of reading defenses, setting up defenders, disguising and executing routes—he will get more targets. So I pretty much agree with CoachO’s take on this.
As it stands, they use him to do what he is good at. Having said that, I also don’t think he actually is a receiver, per se. That’s not my expectation. I think of him as a multiple purpose, combined yards weapon. He will get yards returning, he will get yards rushing. What he needs to do is improve enough as a receiver to get some more yards receiving, adding to the combined total
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znModeratorMcCutcheon said that when he was drafted, he was coming off of knee surgery, which may have caused him to drop down to the third round at No. 70 overall.
So this is the 2nd time historically the Rams have taken a back who was coming off a knee.
McCutcheon btw did not have any carries as a rookie. His first season, really, was his 2nd (1973) when he had 1097 yards on 210 carries (5.2).
According to the wiki, “McCutcheon led the Rams in rushing for five consecutive seasons, from 1973 to 1977, and was named to the Pro Bowl each year. During his tenure with the Rams, McCutcheon gained a total of 6,186 yards on 1,425 carries.”
znModeratorWell once again I go back to 2012.
I am going to use the 1st 4 games as a template. So this is more of a “how will the passing game start the season” speculation than an effort to predict the whole season.
In the 2012 off-season they had to learn a new offense and new defense. They did have Jackson but their receivers were Amendola and Gibson. In games 1-4 they did not even have Givens yet for his one-year one-trick pony games (that was later). The OL consisted of, at its core, just Saffold and Dahl. That year’s OL fill-ins were spare parts other teams cut, and it was a who’s who of “played poorly” types: Richardson, Hunter, Turner. They did have Wells but he was injured in game 1. This year they have their own, homemade-brand nobodies: Baker, Washington, Bond, Jones, Rhaney, Barnes, Reynolds. So the OL add-ons in 2012 were experienced but mediocre, while this year they are just unknown but have been with the team and in the system. Bradford was as new to the system as Foles is now.
And in the 1st 4 games, this was their passing game:
72 completions of 120 attempts, = 18 of 30 per game, or 60%
779 yards, or 195.5 per game, which is a YPA of 6.5
3 TDs, 4 INTs, and 14 sacks allowed, with 1 bad game (Chicago) allowing 6 sacks
I would be surprised if it was any different this year. With a new OL, the better the D they face the less chance they have of passing. Chicago had a good D that year. They were the D that got the 6 sacks, and they also controlled the run (59 yards on 17 attempts). That was a road game btw.
Foles is statistically his best in a quick tempo ball control passing game. The bad news is, so far he has not been a top play action qb (Bradford was).
They went 2-2 in the 1st 4, but the feeling at the time was that they took it to Detroit on the road in game one, but the D lost the game.
They scored 79 points in those 4 games, and allowed 91.
According to PFF, in 2014, his off year, Foles was 6th in the league in completion percentage when he held the ball less than 2.6 seconds. He was 38th of 39 when he held it longer than 2.6 seconds. His long ball accuracy in 2014 was not great.
So if all these numbers mean anything, we ought to see that “short and sweet” passing game again assuming they can also run the ball.
The big difference from 2012 this time is that they begin this season with a potential top 10 defense.
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znModeratorReport: Wilson extension ‘highly unlikely’ this offseason
SEATTLE – It’s beginning to look like the Seattle Seahawks and quarterback Russell Wilson may not reach an agreement for a contract extension this offseason, with a new report pegging a deal as “highly unlikely.”
Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole, citing “sources who understand the situation,” reported the Seahawks are willing to wait until after Wilson’s four-year rookie contract expires following the 2015 season before negotiating new terms, possibly using the franchise tag on him for 2016 and even 2017.
That likely would cost the team less than what Wilson and his agent are looking for: a contract that pays about $20 million a year over five years, Cole reported. The Seahawks don’t seem willing to pay Wilson top dollar until they absolutely have to.
“Primarily, the Seahawks figure that, even with the franchise tag in two years – in 2016 and 2017, after Wilson’s contract runs out after this season – they’re going to pay him no more than about 45 to 48 million dollars for Wilson over the next three years,” Cole said Friday. “Based on that, they’re willing to play out the string on this one.”
Meanwhile, Wilson has become more and more frustrated, sources told Cole – which comes as no surprise. Wilson’s recent tweets have begun attracting attention, namely the ones that suggest he doesn’t feel appreciated by someone or something, though he hasn’t explicitly mentioned the Seahawks.
Wilson is slated to earn $1.7 million this season in his fourth and final year of his rookie contract. The Seahawks have enjoyed great success under the leadership of Wilson, Seattle’s third-round pick in the 2012 NFL draft, and have gotten him for a steal over the past three years.
After earning about $544,900 in 2012, $681,100 in 2013 and $817,300 last season, Wilson is looking for a contract worthy of the league’s top quarterbacks, likely to exceed $20 million a year. Such a deal would, by some measures, make him the highest paid player in the NFL.
Yet the Seahawks, according to recent reports, either don’t think Wilson is worth Aaron Rodgers money or want to delay those big paychecks as long as possible – or both. The latest rumors suggest Wilson and the Seahawks are getting further and further apart in the negotiations, and Friday’s report from Cole shows just how contentious the process may be.
znModeratorSeahawks’ Michael Bennett: Jimmy Graham is still ‘overrated’ and ‘soft’
By John Breech | CBSSports.com
When Jimmy Graham walks into the Seahawks locker room before the team’s first workout on April 20, don’t be surprised if things get a little awkward.
For one, linebacker Bruce Irvin has been tweeting that he wants to fight Graham. Now, Graham is also going to have to deal with Michael Bennett, who doesn’t have a very high opinion of the former Saints tight end.
After the Seahawks beat the Saints in the playoffs following the 2013 season, Bennett called Graham “one of the softest players” in the NFL.
In an interview with KIRO-AM in Seattle on Thursday, Bennett was asked if he still stands by his comments.
“I still feel the same way,” Bennett said. “Just because he’s on my team I don’t stop feeling that way.”
Not only did Bennett call Graham soft after the Seahawks playoff win in January 2014, but he also called the former Saints tight end “overrated.”
“Nobody likes Jimmy Graham. I think he’s one of the softest players in the NFL,” Bennett said at the time. “I think he’s overrated and I really don’t like him as a person or as a player… When he’s not in the game he’s not in the game. He doesn’t help on the blocking plays. I think he’s just overrated.”
Although Bennett is standing by his comments, he did say on Thursday that he’ll try and be a good teammate. Graham was traded to the Seahawks on March 10.
“Obviously, I’m going to be a better teammate to him because he’s on my team,” Bennett said. “I can’t do the things I was doing to him when we were playing him. But obviously when he comes to our team he’s a part of our team so we have a different philosophy than they had with the Saints so the things he was expected to do with the Saints are going to be different when he comes here.”
Since the Seahawks offense revolves around Marshawn Lynch, Bennett is fully expecting that Graham will figure out how to block.
“Obviously, we are a running team so he is going to have to block and do all those things,” Bennett said. “I don’t feel as harsh as I did at the time because he’s my teammate now but at the time he was on time opposite team and we’re pretty good and we battled with him a couple of times and I didn’t really like that too much.”
Both Irvin and Bennett seem to dislike Graham for the same reason and it stems from that January 2014 playoff game. A group of Seahawks players almost got in fight with Graham because Graham was warming up in Seattle’s territory and wouldn’t leave after the players asked him.
“He was warming up in our area and I asked him to move, and he said, ‘I’m Jimmy.’ So I knocked the ball out of his hand and I kicked it across the field,” Irvin said in January 2014. “So that’s how it started. That’s how it started.”
You can see a clip of the altercation below.[
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73Ram
His power is more subtle than bam. Marshawn Lynch is the bam power back who loads up to deliver the blow that he bounces off and continuers running. Todd isn’t like that and that is the biggest reason why I don’t think Todd is comparable to Lynch.
Watching Todd run he leans into the hit where the defenders can’t get that solid hit but ends up bouncing off, because of the leverage/angle. To me Todd is just a very smooth runner, nothing choppy or erratic.
I also think he is similar to Herschel Walker in the way they both run. Herschel would drive through a tackler a little more aggressively than Todd, but BOTH got the job done rather easily. Herschel was also a fluid runner.
znModeratorSchott had this ability to run safe plays for a couple in a row and then set up surprises. I wonder if that’s a thing Cigz inherits.
May 15, 2015 at 1:22 am in reply to: Daniel Rodriguez was the only player at Rams Park with a Purple Heart #24589znModeratorRams’ Marquez is giving football his best shot
By Joe Lyons
Baseball or football? It is a debate that has dominated the life of Rams wide receiver Bradley Marquez over the last few years.
“Right now, I’m 100 percent focused on football and on doing what I can to make this team,” the undrafted rookie free agent said following a workout over the weekend at Rams Park. “Growing up, I basically went from one sport to the other as the seasons changed. I loved the challenge that each sport provided and really enjoyed the competition.
“Over the years, I’ve had plenty of people tell me I should go one direction or the other, but the people who really matter, my family, have always been great about supporting the choices I’ve made.”
Marquez, 22, has shown plenty of promise in both sports. A record-setting running back at Odessa High in Texas, he earned a football scholarship to Texas Tech University and was good enough in baseball to be drafted by the New York Mets in the 16th round of the 2011 draft.
He signed with the Mets after working out a deal that allowed him to continue playing football as well. The 5-foot-10, 196-pound outfielder spent the summers of 2012 and 2013 playing rookie-level ball with the Kingsport Mets of the Appalachian League.
Limited to just nine games by a quadriceps injury in 2011, he batted .267 with a double, a triple, a steal and two RBIs. The following summer, coming off a football knee injury that limited his sophomore season to just six games, Marquez played in 27 games and hit .250 with five doubles, three steals, a homer and nine RBIs.
But in 2013, he elected to step away from baseball and put his full effort in preparing for his senior football season with the Red Raiders. With that decision, he also forfeited $250,000 of his $325,000 signing bonus with the Mets.
“I didn’t fulfill my obligation, so I wasn’t entitled to the money,” he said. “It wasn’t an easy decision because I enjoy both sports and because I’ve been playing both for so long. But at a certain point, I knew I had to make a choice. I had to put my all into something and go full throttle, just to give myself a chance to reach my potential.
“My goal from the start was to compete at the highest possible level, and I’m excited about the possibilities here with the Rams.”
And baseball?
“Technically, I’m still under contract,” he said. “The Mets could’ve released me, but they’ve been supportive of my decision. I guess they’re willing to wait and see how thing play out. For me, though, the complete focus is on football.”
At Texas Tech, Marquez made the transition from running back to receiver and made an immediate impact in Lubbock. He caught 25 passes for 240 yards as a freshman and had 16 catches for 172 yards before a knee injury cut short his sophomore campaign.
Marquez caught 49 passes for 633 yards and six touchdowns as a junior and followed up with 65 catches for 821 yards and 10 scores last fall.
“I’m a guy who’s going to work hard and do whatever the coaches ask me to do,” he said. “I can play inside or outside and I have experience on special teams, too. I’m excited to be here, to learn the playbook and show the coaches what I can do.”
Another benefit to bypassing baseball for Marquez was the degree in exercise and sports science he received from Texas Tech.
“That’s something that means a lot to me, my mom and my whole family,” he said. “If nothing else, it means I’ll be able to stay involved in sports. That’s important to me, obviously, because sports have always been such a big part of my life.”
Marquez said he was “a little disappointed” about not being drafted.
“I’d heard I might be a late-round choice — I think everybody wants to hear their name called — but I believe things like this happen for a reason,” he said. “The Rams showed interest in me early in the draft process and, after going over some things with my agent, I ended up signing within probably 20 minutes of the draft wrapping up. I just felt like St. Louis would be a good fit for me.”
znModeratorMcCutcheon Sees Limitless Potential in Gurley
By Myles Simmons
In drafting Todd Gurley, St. Louis added a running back who is universally thought of as a special talent at Rams Park. And one man uniquely qualified to make that statement is Lawrence McCutcheon.
The Rams’ third-round pick in 1972, McCutcheon is No. 4 on the franchise’s all-time rushing list — behind only Steven Jackson, Eric Dickerson, and Marshall Faulk — after racking up 6,186 yards in eight seasons. He went to five Pro Bowls and helped the team advance to Super Bowl XIV.
McCutcheon has served various roles within the Rams’ player personnel department since 1982, and is currently a national scout for the club. And all of his experience and love for the game — as a former player and a talent evaluator — came through clear as day when the Rams selected Gurley.
“When you have a scout on your staff like Lawrence McCutcheon, who’s played the position, who’s evaluated the player, and is in the room when you get to make that choice,” head coach Jeff Fisher told NFL Media’s Mike Silver, “just to see him come alive and be excited — it’s a memorable experience.
Given McCutcheon’s expertise when it comes to the ground game, it’s easy to see why he’s enthusiastic about Gurley playing for the Rams.
“As a former running back here, you’re always looking for that next guy to take the bull by the horns, so to speak, and be that bell-cow-type running back,” McCutcheon said in an interview with stlouisrams.com. “And he certainly fits that build.”
“To me, that’s what the game is all about, particularly what coach Fisher is trying to establish here now,” McCutcheon continued. “He’s big, he’s fast, he’s elusive, he finishes his runs. So he’s the perfect fit, in my opinion.”
McCutcheon has evaluated a multitude of running backs in his career as a scout, and said that usually they fall under different categories.
“You’ve got the little guys who are more elusive in space, make-you-miss type guys, double-cut guys,” McCutcheon said, adding that Gurley’s quick feet, elusiveness, and ability to lower his shoulder to break through arm tackles separates him from other backs. “Gurley is a combination of all of them just put into a bigger package.”
The first-round pick’s special ability is part of the reason why McCutcheon doesn’t think it makes any sense when people say that the running back isn’t as important as it once was. While Gurley and Melvin Gordon marked the first RBs taken in the Round 1 since 2012, McCutcheon said that playing a ball-control offense requires a strong rushing attack.
“I think it’s crazy when people say that the position has been devalued because the ground game has been the nucleus football for decades,” McCutcheon said. “I don’t think it’ll ever be phased out completely. You’ll see more emphasis by some teams over others, but when it’s all said and done, you have to run the football to win football games, in my opinion.”
That’s an adage McCutcheon says has been true irrespective of era. There have been changes to rules and styles of play, but McCutcheon said the basic tenants of running the football have remained the same.
“You still have to get some offensive linemen up there who are coming off the ball, creating some holes,” McCutcheon said. “I don’t care what scheme it is — you’ve got to get the ball north and south instead of going east and west. And when you’re doing that, you’re going to be successful.”
“I think of the old Washington Redskins when John Riggins was running the ball,” McCutcheon continued. “When the Rams were running the football with Eric Dickerson, and then you had Marshall Faulk who was running the ball here — they were two types of guys who were very, very successful Hall of Famers. But they both brought a different style to the offense.”
However, what has changed over time is the way the game is scouted. McCutcheon said that when he was drafted, he was coming off of knee surgery, which may have caused him to drop down to the third round at No. 70 overall. But he also said that many teams actually may not have known about that surgery. In 2015, McCutcheon said, there’s no question that every team would have had that information.
According to McCutcheon, scouting has evolved into something almost completely different from when he first got into the league.
“I think when I came out, there was probably one guy who came through and did his own work and sent his report in, and that was probably it,” McCutcheon said. “Now, you’ve got the area guy, you’ve got a cross-check guy, you’ve got a national guy, and then you’ve got guys here in the building doing the homework. So It’s not as easy for a guy to fall through the cracks now as it was back then.”
With what can be an overwhelming amount of intelligence on incoming NFL players nowadays, McCutcheon said that in scouting, it’s important to find a balance between utilizing available knowledge and going with your intuition.
“I think you can over-evaluate to a certain extent,” McCutcheon said. “I’m a true believer in following your gut instincts, and once you have an opinion on a guy and you put that stamp on him, your first opinion is usually the right opinion. The minute you start second-guessing yourself, and thinking, ‘Well, maybe I need to go back and do some more work,’ that’s when you muddle the picture, so to speak. And then I think you can make some bad choices in that respect.”
In many ways, that’s how McCutcheon evaluated Gurley. The rookie running back’s on-field performance at Georgia — where in 2014 he rushed for 911 yards in just six games — greatly illustrates his overall potential. And with Fisher saying that the Rams’ doctors have no concerns over Gurley’s knee and its recovery, McCutcheon said that there are many reasons to be fired up over the Rams’ first-round pick.
“I think the sky is the limit,” McCutcheon said of Gurley. “He’s proven that he’s a big-time player in a big-time arena. He did it at a great school where a lot of good running backs have come out.
“The key to any success in this league — not only at running back — is just being available week in and week out so that you can produce,” McCutcheon added. “And if that happens, it’ll be great to see where his future lies.”
May 14, 2015 at 9:55 pm in reply to: New Brady thread (Dansby suspects foul play from 2008 game in New England) #24585znModeratorThe Patriots fired the guys they’re passionately defending today
Darin Gantt on May 14, 2015
you.are.fired.04
The Patriots have launched long-winded defense of themselves today, nearly 20,000 words of defense.
But through all the chapter and verse they’ve cited to explain the true motives of Jim McNally and John Jastremski in this document, one question becomes more and more curious.
If these two guys are so innocent, why did the Patriots fire them?
In the league’s initial release on the Patriots’ punishment, it is made clear who did what to whom.
“Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th,” the league’s release last week read.
So, these two guys are completely misunderstood, a pair of hapless innocents who didn’t want to get busted for lifting shoes and just wanted to drop a few pounds.
Why then would the Patriots move so quickly and decisively to distance themselves?
Perhaps that can be the next installment of the Patriots’ blog.
znModeratorWhy not try to hold on to Barron? economics?
His option was about 8 M. I don’t think he’s worth 8 M. That would make him the 5th highest paid Ram.
I think they will see what the market says.
May 14, 2015 at 9:19 pm in reply to: New Brady thread (Dansby suspects foul play from 2008 game in New England) #24582znModerator
znModeratorTrinca-Pasat gets opportunity with the Rams
By Nate Latsch
http://stl.scout.com/story/1546566-trinca-pasat-gets-chance-with-rams?s=124
ST. LOUIS — Louis Trinca-Pasat tried not to pay much attention to the final day of the NFL Draft. The former Iowa defensive tackle, who was projected by some as a late-round pick, kept himself busy instead of following along with the picks.
“I was playing board games with my family,” Trinca-Pasat said. “Playing soccer and some sports with my nieces and nephew in the backyard. My family, my parents, were glued to the TV. I didn’t want to be tense or anxious or distracted because of all that. I just kind of kept my mind clear.”
There were 256 players selected in the seven rounds of the Draft but Trinca-Pasat, a three-year starter who was a second-team All-Big Ten selection in 2014, wasn’t one of them.
Instead, the 6-foot-1, 290-pounder ended up signing as an undrafted free agent with the St. Louis Rams shortly after the conclusion of the Draft.
“The general manager talked to my agent and my agent and I agreed that this was the best fit for me for me to come,” Trinca-Pasat said when he met with reporters during the Rams’ rookie orientation last weekend. “It’s a great d-line and great coaches to learn from and get better.”
The defensive tackle had options. He said his agent told him that, besides the Rams, eight other teams wanted to sign him as a free agent.
In St. Louis, Trinca-Pasat joins a defensive line that includes five former first-round draft picks — Chris Long, Robert Quinn, Nick Fairley, Michael Brockers and Aaron Donald — but only currently has three defensive tackles on the roster in Donald, Brockers and Fairley.
Trinca-Pasat said joining the Rams is a great opportunity to learn from the best.
“They have one of the best d-lines and Aaron Donald and all the other guys,” he said. “I still have to learn their names, but they were one of the best in the league last year. I’m just here, I’m excited. It’s always good when you get to absorb knowledge from the best.”
Trinca-Pasat is similar in size to Donald, the 2014 NFL defensive rookie of the year. Trinca-Pasat is 6-1, 290. Donald is 6-1, 285.
“I was seeing a little bit of him on film and heard of him coming out of Pitt,” Trinca-Pasat said. “He’s just a really good player, a very good guy I’ve heard. I haven’t met him yet, but I’m looking forward to it.”
The rookie defensive tackle will get to know his new teammates during the Rams’ offseason program. He’ll have a chance to impress his new coaching staff during OTAs and training camp.
Trinca-Pasat impressed draftniks with his play at Iowa, where he started 38 games over three seasons, and then during the draft evaluation process at the Senior Bowl, Scouting Combine and at his pro day.
Trinca-Pasat racked up 69 tackles, including 11.5 for loss, and 6.5 sacks during his senior season with the Hawkeyes. He then put up solid numbers at the Combine — 4.96 seconds in the 40-yard dash, 32-inch vertical leap, 4.30 seconds in the 20-yard shuttle and 7.40 seconds in the 3 cone drill — and showed off his versatility at his pro day by also going through drills as a fullback.
Ourlads’ NFL Scouting Services rated Trinca-Pasat as the 13th-best defensive tackle prospect in the 2015 Draft and projected him as a fourth- or fifth-round pick. NFL.com projected Trinca-Pasat as a fifth-round pick.
“Made a reputation for himself by being a relentless worker on and off the field,” Ourlads’ David Syvertsen wrote in his scouting report. “He lacks the ideal physical gifts that most teams want out of a defensive tackle, but coaches love to have this kind of guy on the depth chart. He plays with great pad level, quickness, and aggression. He can be a handful for blockers to deal with as games wear on and fatigue sets in. He will be limited to certain roles at the next level, but there is a spot for this kind of player on every team.”
Rams’ offensive lineman Andrew Donnal, a fourth-round pick from Iowa, echoed those sentiments about his college teammate.
“He’s a great guy to have on your team, on your side,” Donnal said. “He’s an all-for-the-team kind of guy, not selfish at all, and just willing to do anything. That’s what makes him so great. He’s extremely hard working and a great guy to be on this team.”
znModeratorI wish Johnny Cash had written a song called Big Nickel
Times were tough
and the fans were fickle
so ole coach Greg
devised the big nickelthat big nickel
that big nickel
there’s nothing like
that big big nickeltalking 3 dee-fensive safeties now
yee-haw
znModeratorMaybe JB didn’t want a 1-year deal.
C’est vrai.
Although, if that’s true he’s quite the gambler.
He has a Rams deal any time he wants one, right? Or presumably. It may not be how much he wants, but it’s there.
znModeratorThe Atlanta Falcons and free-agent offensive tackle Tyler Polumbus have agreed to terms on a one-year deal.
People are assuming that Atlanta didn’t want JB.
But no one really knows.
Maybe JB didn’t want a 1-year deal.
znModeratorGurley has the ceiling to warrant the extremes AS PART of the discussion. I suppose he could end up being JAG, but I tend to doubt it…
I wasn’t clear. I wasn’t talking about someone “going to” extremes. That would be dismissive and I wasn’t doing that. I was talking about extreme differences between observers. For the record, I am much more like you on Gurley. I think you put it well: Gurley has the ceiling to warrant the [best expectations] AS PART of the discussion. Yeah I agree with that.
And yet it’s true that a knee CAN mean trouble. I don;t share that view but I get it as a view.
So it really is between 2 things. Knee? (I share your view on that.) Next star in the pantheon of Rams RBs? (which I think is genuinely possible.)
znModeratorMarshawn Lynch……Todd Gurley. Adrian PetersonI really think he’s capable of being on their level, but he’s somewhere in between their styles. Nothing would please me more than for a Ram RB to break ED’s record.
Rose colored glasses around here. ACL is a big problem.
I mean this with all due respect, and I say that cause this could sound facetious, when it’s not. It’s said with honest appreciation.
Namely this.
If it weren’t for extremes, there would be nowhere to go, and nothin to do.
So…post on….
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Suh-weet!
I’d love to hear from any GA fans or anyone else who saw Gurley play extensively. I’ve been looking at the film available on YouTube and find the all-game film (e.g., Georgia vs. South Carolina) much more helpful than the highlight collections. And this is what I see.
Gurley has VERY good balance, very good speed, and OUTSTANDING acceleration. Once he squares his shoulders and hits the hole he’s up to top speed in two strides and he’s GONE. Wow. Seems like a decisive runner, though I’d love to see more runs when there’re only creases available to run into. Amazing how often his speed allows him to split defenders who initially look like they’ve got favorable angles on him. I did see him caught once (he scored anyway) and not run away from a couple others. But he certainly immediately becomes our fastest current RB and will take some to the house once he clears the LOS.
He doesn’t do much open-field juking, which I like. W/one man to beat he produces a strong stiff-arm and it’s sayonara.
After what I had heard I expected raw power to be higher on the list of attributes than what I saw. DGMW, he’s got power: he takes it up the gut strong while having the speed to pop it outside. But he struck me as more ‘determined’ than ‘powerful.’ Which is to say that he makes sloppy tacklers pay. But he’s not shrugging off a wrap-up tackle or dragging anyone 5 yards down the field.
Didn’t see him catching more than a couple, so hard to asses that.
Liked the interviews I saw. Seems like a good, solid kid’ won’t be hard to root for him. Super excited to see him in horns!
znModeratorRose colored glasses around here. ACL is a big problem. What are the odds that his knee will be as good as before the injury?
It happens.
It’s not this rare, Adrian Peterson or Frank Gore only kind of thing.
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znModeratorI got nuthin, i guess.
It would help if somethin rhymed with refrigerator.How about The Refrigerators Where They Keep the Pancakes?
Or…does it have to be short?
How about the Refrigerator Gladiators?
Heck it doesn;t have to rhyme.
Hell’s Refrigerators.
znModeratorWell, my only hope is that the Rams opponents never forget Havenstein either.
So, have you ever left a store and walked all over the parking lot looking for your car and then after too long of a time remembered that you drove your wife’s car to the store? Or, was it just me?
No…it’s not just you. I’ve done that. Though I didn’t walk all over, I just stood there vainly scanning the lot, all annoyed n perplexed.
znModeratorI assume you left out Havenstein because he’s not in camp yet?
No I left out Havenstein because sometimes, brain not work good.
I edited him back in. Thanks for the catch.
znModeratorPlease pardon my blasphemy but Gurley has Faulk’s micro gears
I saw the same thing. Good combination of vision, anticipation, ability to react to the 2nd guy coming, not just the guy in front of him.
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znModeratorSeventy percent of ACL injuries occur in noncontact situations.
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Personally, I think of them as Forced and Un-forced ACLs…
Forced = The knee is impacted and the joint is driven/forced into tearing.
Unforced = The knee is not impacted however, a body control situation occurs that creates an odd angle of the joint – even if just a small step is taken – is enough force to tear the anterior cruciate ligament.
The UN-Forced ACLs are so bizzare and hard to explain how they happen. I tore my ACL&MCL playing football and it was UN-Forced..I was untouched and went to plant my foot and it just popped….and that was that, as they say.
It never happened again though the arthritis in the joint now 26yrs later is quite uncomfortable. winking smiley
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