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    St. Louis Rams Cheating History

    http://yourteamcheats.com/STL

    • the RAMS are WELL BELOW AVERAGE NFL cheaters!

    • they have a CheatScore of 14?

    • they’ve executed 3 real cheats! ?

    INDEX OF RECORDED RAMS CHEATS:

    RAMS-ONLY: PEDSgate (6x since 1989) • Cheapsgate (0x since 2010)

    SUMMARY: Performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) are used by players to illegally improve athletic performance above what legal training and preparation can do.

    Players who illegally improve their performance unfairly penalize players who follow the rules. They not only put those players at risk for physical injury, but they also affect their economic livelihood by impacting their perceived value and their ability to secure appropriately-valued playing contracts.

    SEVERITY = 0.5 video cameras per punished incident. Includes all documented infractions from 1960 to present with this Wikipedia page as the primary source.

    TE Vernon Kirk (1989)
    LB Scott Shanle (2003)
    WR Austin Pettis (2011)
    TE Brody Eldridge (2012)
    LB Jo-Lonn Dunbar (2013)
    WR Stedman Bailey (2014)

    VICTIM: The entire league

    PUNISHED? Yes

    PUNISHMENT: Each player was suspended for four games for violating the league’s performance-enhancing drug policy. Bailey’s penalty was overturned by the NFL’s new 2014 drug policy.

    AWARDS EARNED: Everyone Was Doing It!

    CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 6.0

    Cheapsgate (0x since 2010) flag

    TEAM: The St. Louis Rams

    SUMMARY: Players who freely use illegal hits as part of their game give themselves an unfair advantage versus those who play by the rules. A team’s cheap shots fined below $25K are not counted at all. Individual cheap shots are penalized very lightly (0.25 cameras per $25K fine). It’s only when a team puts together a string of cheap shots that the overall severity rises to a significant level. I’m looking at your Detroit.

    SEVERITY = 0.25 video cameras per NFL punished incident with a fine over $25K. Tallied from 2010 until today. Treble-severity (0.75 cameras per game) is assessed for game suspensions, as they punish particularly malicious hits.

    Example 1: $35K fine with no suspension = 0.35 cameras. Example 2: $55K fine and one game suspension = 0.55 + 0.75 = 1.3 cameras. Example 3: $125K fine and two game suspension = 1.25 + 0.75 + 0.75 = 2.75 cameras. A team’s cheap shot points are summed and rounded to the nearest whole or half camera rating.
    The St. Louis Rams are one of the few NFL teams who this decade have not had a player suspended or penalized more than $25,000 for a cheap shot or dirty tactics.

    VICTIM: The entire league

    PUNISHED? No

    in reply to: Is Gurley worth the injury risk? yes or no? #24817
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    If he doesn’t pan out of course he wasn’t worth the 10th pick. In what universe would he be worth the 10th pick if he doesn’t pan out? Heck we’re hearing that he is expected to be a part time RB! Even worse if he can’t make it.

    Then the better way to put that is, is he worth the risk. I edited the title to reflect that.

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    Joe Barksdale visiting Chargers

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/18/joe-barksdale-visiting-chargers/

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    The pickings are pretty slim on the free agent market in the middle of May, which makes tackle Joe Barksdale’s presence on the list of unsigned players surprising.

    Barksdale may not be the second coming of Anthony Munoz, but he’s started 29 games over the last two seasons at right tackle for the Rams and he’s drawn interest from a handful of teams since becoming a free agent in March. That list is getting a little longer.

    Michael Gehlken of U-T San Diego reports that Barksdale is visiting with the Chargers on Monday. The Rams, Titans and Falcons have also been linked with Barksdale at various points this offseason.

    The Chargers have 2013 first-round pick D.J. Fluker at right tackle, although there was chatter about a possible move inside after he struggled during the 2014 season. The Chargers said that wasn’t their plan, although that could be revisited if Barksdale should land in San Diego.

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    Again it doesn’t have to be an ACL. As serious an injury as an ACL.

    That suggests to me a new topic question for me to ask for another thread.

    in reply to: Three things to watch for Rams at owners meetings #24794
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    I wonder how Wagoner feels writing about this after Kroenke said all front office jobs would be up for replacement in the event of a move to LA.

    NW works for ESPN now. He doesn;t work for the Rams.

    BTW the reason they re-opened all the jobs was so they would not have to pay moving expenses.

    It’s that primitive “walmart executive” type brain at work.

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    Saw it. Miller is just a great director. He established more depth of character with the fewest words spoken of any director I can think of. He’s a great visual story teller. This is very effective story telling, really. And, a little bent. This is a very dark and in some respects disturbing post-apocalyptic world. The action scenes are like no other movie ever (I mean that). And Theron is fantastic in it. There are some flaws—I don’t think Hardy’s version of Max is as good as Gibson’s. But, whatever.

    Warning though. If you didn’t like The Road Warrior you will not like this. This is the Road Warrior on steroids and acid both.

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    Torry Holt ‏@BigGame81
    @STLouisRams Sean Mannion , wonderful size, SON of a coach, student of the game, 43 career starts,pocket passer, throws WR open

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    I just saw that my iPad autocorrected Saffold to Scaffold. That kind of stuff never happened when I was a kid writing letters to the LA Rams asking for free stuff.

    fwiw I corrected it.

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    NFL Draft 2015 – RB Todd Gurley – Georgia – Yearbook Scouting Report

    http://www.draftinsiders.com/content/nfl-draft-2015-rb-todd-gurley-georgia-yearbook-scouting-report

    Todd Gurley #3 – Georgia – 6-1, 225 – Sp. 4.50

    Hindu Theory: Adrian Peterson – Rating 90

    Huge powerful speedy tailback is one of the most gifted runners to come along over the past decade. His career was cut short in 2014 by a torn ACL, that along with a four game suspension limited him to just six games last fall. Over that time, he still gained a pretty amazing 911 yards at 7.4 a pop and scored 9 TDs. Possesses an NFL body with a well-developed muscular frame. He has the natural ability to drop his pads and square up when attacking the line and seamlessly bounces off would be tacklers. Shows natural balance as a runner with the power and determination to be difficult to slow down, very seldom taken down by the first tackler. Reads his initial blocks very well. Shows a feel for finding daylight. Powers through creases with authority and the speed to stick-and-go with an extreme burst out of his cuts. Shows the ability to juke and shift his weight very well, especially for a 225 lb. runner. Able to string multiple moves together, including wicked jump cuts that can leave tacklers flailing at air. Uses his fine speed and long strides to eat up yards in a hurry. Large, natural glue-like hands as a receiver out of the backfield and is a willing, alert blocker in pass protection. Very uncommon combination of speed and power with huge pro upside when healthy. Extremely strong lower body and maintains balance well after contact. Appears to effortlessly run through attempted arm tackles. His speed makes him a threat to score from anywhere on the field. Extremely tough to tackle from an angle. Presses line very well to set up cut-back opportunities. Able to decisively get downhill, showing fine knee bend and forward lean. Effectively slips through some very small holes and explode out the other side. Shows quick, tight footwork getting to the second level. Can sink his hips and explode through a tackler or side-step and hit the throttle, which causes safeties to hesitate when coming downhill. Able to turn speed into power between tackles or when turning the corner. Seldom looks to go out of bounds and works to finish every run. In 2014, an outstanding 61.9% of his rushing yards came after contact. Strong hands and carries ball securely close to his body. Just fumbled three times in 510 carries. He is highly developed as a receiver to be an immediate three down feature back combining excellent hands and explosive big play ability after the catch. As a blocker, he will face up with linebackers, but needs hand technique development to be a finished complete feature back.

    The Numbers: As a senior, he started the first 6 games and rushed for 911 yards on 123 carries for a 7.4 average and 9 TDs. He added 12 receptions for 57 yards before the four game suspension and then the ACL injury terminated his season. For the 2013 season, he rushed for 989 yards on 165 attempts for 6 yard average and 10 TDs. He added 37 receptions for 441 yards and 6 TDs. As a freshman in 2012, he had his best season and rushed for 1385 yards on 222 carries for a 6.2 average and 17 TDs, starting 14 games. He added 16 receptions for 117 yards. Over his career, he rushed for 3285 yards on 510 attempts for a fine 6.4 average and 36 TDs plus totaled 65 receptions for 615 yards and 6 TDs. At the NFL Combine, he came in at 6’1” and 222 lbs. and did 17 reps, but did not run or participate in the leaping and agility drills or positional drills due to rehabbing ACL injury.

    The Skinny: Physical downhill thumper with the talent to be an immediate feature back. As a blocker, he shows quick reactions and toughness to face up with defenders and use his strong frame and agility. He can be his own blocker and runs both inside and outside. His receiving skills have developed nicely with reps, though he must continue to improve in that role. He has the natural running skills to be a difference maker and is similar to Adrian Peterson or former feature back Jamal Lewis in size, running style and big play abilities. Excellent early round addition with the skill set to be an impact player and core weapon. Top kickoff returner. Top 25 prospect with talent to be the best back in years once healthy.

    Draft Projection: 1st Round

    Frank Coyle is a long time scout with nationwide ties with coaches, scouts and player agents.

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    Undersized Trinca-Pasat looks to make an impact with the Rams

    By Joe Lyons

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/undersized-trinca-pasat-looks-to-make-an-impact-with-the/article_634ed317-980c-537c-b93d-9383d1cf5b9e.html

    Shortly after signing as an undrafted rookie free agent, Rams defensive tackle Louis Trinca-Pasat posted the following tweet:

    “Officially signed with the St. Louis Rams. Thank God Rams have given me one more opportunity. Those who overlooked me will regret it.’’

    That pretty well sums it up for Trinca-Pasat, a 6-foot-1, 292-pounder who readily admits that he plays football with a chip on his shoulder. Throughout his football career, first at Lane Tech High in Chicago and later as a standout defensive lineman at Iowa, he’s been overlooked, partly because of the players around him but also because of his stature.

    “As an undersized guy in this game, it seems like you’re constantly trying to show people you can play and produce,’’ the 23-year-old said following a recent workout at Rams Park. “But I’ve always liked proving people wrong. It’s become even more motivating for me.’’

    In high school, Trinca-Pasat played linebacker, tight end and wide receiver on a team that featured Laken Tomlinson, a guard from Duke University who was selected 28th overall by the Detroit Lions in the opening round of the recent NFL draft. At Iowa, Trinca-Pasat was part of a talented defensive tackle pairing that also featured Carl Davis, a 6-5, 320-pounder who went to the Baltimore Ravens in the third round.

    “It would’ve been nice to be drafted and I tried to stay positive, but it’s not something I was going to dwell on,’’ said Trinca-Pasat, whose pre-draft projections ranged from fifth round to free agent. “At this point, I’m just grateful for the chance the Rams have given me. Drafted or undrafted, it comes down to to what you do from here on, showing the coaches you can play and learn and produce. It’s time for me to go to work.’’

    Working to achieve is the only way Trinca-Pasat knows. He is the youngest child of Romanian immigrants who came to America in the late 1980s to escape communism and find a better life. His father, Vasile, is a building engineer while his mother, Estera, works as an elementary school cafeteria cook.

    “We didn’t have a lot growing up and everything we had, we had to work for,’’ Trinca-Pasat recalled. “The focus when we were kids was school and church. And work. On Saturdays, we’d go with my dad to work and do whatever needed to be done. If we wanted or needed a dollar for something, we earned it.’’

    Although he was a fan of the game, Louis didn’t play football until he was a high school freshman, and that came about only after his older brothers persuaded their parents to let the youngest of five give the game a try.

    “At that point, my parents knew nothing at all about football. Sports weren’t a focus in our house,’’ Louis said. “But over the last few years, that’s changed, at least with football. They made it to a lot of my games, home and away, during college and now they’re asking a lot more questions about the game and the rules. But even when they didn’t understand it completely, my family has always been very supportive of me.’’

    As a 230-pound freshman trying to make the transition to defensive tackle in Iowa City, Trinca-Pasat nearly gave up football.

    “I was frustrated because I was getting thrown around like a rag doll every single day,’’ he recalled.

    But instead of quitting, Trinca-Pasat turned to Iowa strength and conditioning coach Chris Doyle and his staff. He added bulk, strength and confidence and went on to make starts in his final 38 games of his Hawkeye career.

    “I put in the time and effort and my hard work paid off,’’ said Trinca-Pasat, a team captain who was named Iowa’s defensive MVP after finishing with career bests in tackles (69), sacks (6.5) and tackles for loss (11.5) last fall. Known for his quickness, power and relentless effort, Trinca-Pasat earned trips to the Senior Bowl and the NFL combine.

    “Maybe it’s because of my upbringing, but even in college, I never gave that much thought to the NFL,’’ he said. “For me, the mindset was always on working every day to get better and that’s still the approach I have to take.

    “Every time you step up a level in competition, the game gets faster and you have to adjust as the game evolves. Every day, I have to work on my technique, my craft.’’

    Trinca-Pasat, who said he talked to eight other teams before signing with St. Louis, is looking forward to working with assistant coach Mike Waufle and the Rams’ talented crew of defensive linemen.

    “I know I have to improve and what better way to learn than by working every day with some of the best defensive linemen in the NFL,’’ said Trinca-Pasat, a three-time All-Big Ten All-Academic selection with a master’s degree in educational policy and learning studies. “I pride myself on being a smart player, a good technician, a guy who can learn on the fly and a good teammate.’’

    in reply to: is Gurley similar to any former Rams RBs? #24761
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    from off the net

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    Comparisons are usually pretty lazy. Lynch because he is the current hot name at RB but he’s not the home run threat Gurley is and Lynch is more of a drag tacklers type where Gurley uses his power more as a set up to break away. Petterson because he was a rare size/speed RB but his style is more physical…again, Gurley isn’t as likely to drag defenders before breaking away. Gurley will POP you with power, rip through arm tackles, and then break away. It’s not a better or worse style, just different. Petterson is quicker to use his strength while Gurley is more inclined to use his speed like Fred Taylor did. But like Taylor, when he doesn’t have the angle he will make you pay for a tackle.

    I feel Fred Taylor is criminally underrated. Unfortunately for Ram fans Gurley seems like he might also have the same early career injury issues (different ones).

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    AP, ML,FT, JL. I wonder if any of them started their NFL with as serious an injury as an ACL? I wonder if any of them were projected as part time RBs?

    McCutcheon did. And he’s on the Rams personnel staff. Moreover, ACLs are not AS serious as they were back then—they have since developed more effective surgical and rehab procedures. On top of which, Gurley’s ACL was very “clean”–it did not come, as most of these do, with lots of accompanying damage. It was just a straight-up ACL tear.

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    ACL Tear Won’t Keep Most College Athletes From Returning to Play: Study
    Recovery actually seems better for college-age players vs. younger peers, researchers say

    http://consumer.healthday.com/bone-and-joint-information-4/knee-problem-news-436/acl-tear-won-t-keep-most-college-athletes-from-returning-to-play-study-692075.html?utm_expid=38353063-4.pIV1hUrQR8K_MJ1_OqjLag.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

    ACL Tear Won’t Keep Most College Athletes From Returning to Play: Study
    FRIDAY, Sept. 26, 2014 (HealthDay News) — It’s a debilitating injury, but an ACL tear typically doesn’t mean the end of a college athlete’s career, a new study finds.

    The research suggests that the risk for a reinjury of the knee’s anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) actually goes down as athletes mature from high school into their college years.

    Researchers at the University of North Carolina report that most of the college players in the study returned to their sport after surgery to repair an ACL tear.

    However, college athletes who had suffered an ACL injury in their pre-college years were much more likely to suffer recurrent ACL trouble, compared to those who had their first such injury in college.

    The study included 89 male and female UNC athletes who’d undergone an ACL surgery, either prior to entering college or while they were collegiate athletes. Fifty-four of the patients had surgery during college, while 39 had the surgery before college.

    Both groups had nearly identical return-to-play rates — the pre-college group used 78 percent of their total playing eligibility after injury, while the college group used 77 percent.

    However, there were significant differences in their rates for ACL reinjury and reoperation.

    The pre-college group had about a 17 percent injury rate with their original ACL surgery, and they also had a 20 percent chance of suffering an ACL injury in the other knee, the study found.

    In comparison, the rate for the college athletes was about 2 percent and 11 percent, respectively.

    The reoperation rate was about 51 percent for the pre-college group and 20 percent for the college group, according to the study published Sept. 24 in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

    “It’s very clear from our data that the younger the elite athlete, the higher risk for reinjury,” lead author Dr. Ganesh Kamath, assistant professor of orthopedics at UNC’s School of Medicine, said in a university news release.

    “It’s clear that these kids are going to get back to playing sports at a higher level, but there is something in their makeup that puts them at high risk for tearing the ACL in the same or the other knee again. Once the athlete, though, gets past adolescence, this risk seems to go way down,” Kamath said.

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    in reply to: is Gurley similar to any former Rams RBs? #24729
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    Peterson, Lynch (X 2), Fred Taylor and Jamal Lewis (personnel execs interviewed by Daniel Jeremiah of NFL.com)

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000388547/article/ask-5-who-does-georgia-rb-todd-gurley-remind-you-of

    Georgia RB Todd Gurley was the talk of college football after his monster performance against Clemson on Saturday in the season opener for both teams. His style reminded me a lot of Jamal Lewis, a player that came through Baltimore while I was a scout for the Ravens eight years ago.

    Who does he remind you of? That’s a question I posed to five NFL personnel executives this week. Some interesting names surfaced.

    Executive No. 1: Adrian Peterson

    “He’s in the Adrian Peterson mold — big, tall, thick trunk, downhill runner with track speed to finish.”

    Executive No. 2: Marshawn Lynch

    “Powerful guy, runs through contact and finishes every single run.”

    Executive No. 3: Marshawn Lynch

    “Strong, powerful and has great vision. Both guys are intense runners. They are both very capable in the passing game.”

    Executive No. 4: Fred Taylor

    “He reminds me of Fred coming out of Florida. Big back with plenty of speed.”

    Executive No. 5: Jamal Lewis

    “He’s a bigger version of Jamal. They are both power backs with excellent acceleration. Gurley has better balance and lateral quicks than (Lewis).”

    Verdict: Lynch was the only player to garner multiple votes from our panel, receiving two of the five cast.

    Conclusion: These are all great comparisons. After seeing Gurley live in action last fall, I immediately thought of Lewis because of the power/speed combo. I had forgotten about Fred Taylor. I like that one even more.

    Follow Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter @MoveTheSticks.

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    The Rams have struggled to find Tavon Austin’s fit and it’s hard to see how they’re going to do it better now that they’ve fully committed to a personality opposite of what he brings to the table. On the flip side, though, is the prospect of using him in ways that really complement that offensive philosophy. In other words, more jet sweeps, more ways of getting the ball in his hands as a change of pace to the more power-oriented style. At this point, I’m not sure he’s ever going to develop into a consistent receiver. But I guess we’ll see.

    We wuzz just discussing all this.

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    Letterman was a good stand-up comedian
    back in the day.

    Years ago, it got so I would only watch Carson if Letterman was on. Letterman was did stand-up a lot on Carson.

    He is from Broad Ripple, a part of INdy the city. Broad Ripple was where you would hang out in INDy if you were young and restless and into stuff. The record stores were there, etc.

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    As for the ‘passing league’ thing — there’s
    the Seattle team that kinda shows theres
    still a place for Defense and power running.
    Granted, Seattle’s D is awesome and their
    home field advantage is ridiculous.

    They’re not the only ones though. I will do a breakdown sometime.

    To me, run-heavy teams pass the ball 50% of the time or less.

    3 run-heavy teams that come to mind right off, then, are Seattle (of course), Dallas, and Houston.

    I expect the Rams to be a balanced team, with 53-54% passing or thereabouts. Heavy passing teams throw it 56-57% or more.

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    But the main problem the Rams had with these plays last year was that Austin had no ability to make anyone miss in open space. After watching some college tape, I don’t think he completely lacks this ability. But I do think he never properly adjusted to the NFL’s speed and tackling

    I agree with that. In other words, although we see it in different ways and put different emphasis on different parts of it, we see him—quite possibly— as still adjusting.

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    yeah. we are in agreement. he’s not going to be a dominant pure wide receiver. but i think there’s certainly the capacity to get better as a receiver. plus he contributes big plays in a variety of ways. he’s a receiver/runner/returner. he’s a slash player.

    yes. We see it pretty much the same way.

    And I think you and I are not ruling out him getting better, and doing more, as a receiver. But he will never be A receiver. He can do more as a receiver than he has, but that will never be what he IS.

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    how easy is it for rookie right tackles to transition to the nfl? i know the game has changed, and some say that right and left are often interchangeable in the modern nfl. but given that fisher wants to use a power running game, should it be a relatively easy transition for havenstein?

    I don’t know how easy it is, and most rookie OL starters struggle.

    But it is common to start 1st and 2nd round rookie ROTs.

    And actually, in spite of what some people say about the 2 tackle spots being more alike these days, that’s not how teams are acting (for the most part). If you look at what most are doing, including the Rams, ROTs don’t have to be as athletic or accomplished as LOTs. LOTs are expected to play on an island, and it’s more traditional (still) to give ROTs help.

    Anyway…yeah, the feeling around the league, if you look at the recent draft history, is that high-picked 1st and 2nd round ROTs are expected to start as rookies. That is, the majority of 1st and 2nd round ROTs do start right away.

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    He’s a punt returner.

    I don’t agree.

    He does catch passes, and does do a combo of things in the passing game. IMO he is only a “failure” in that regard if someone expected him to be a pure receiver.

    He also can run the ball out of the backfield.

    And he can also return punts.

    As for what Fisher said…he tellingly states (just paraphrasing not directly quoting) “one thing he CAN do is run past you downfield.” That is, he ends up talking about what Tavon is CAPABLE OF (presumably, capable of, so far.)

    I also think there’s this mistaken view out there that says they didn’t use him to on deep routes. Well, yeah, they did. They did it with Bradford and Clemens. I don’t think they bothered to do it with Davis. They did do it with Hill, Hill just never threw to him.

    Anyway, Tavon is controversial. That makes discussing him very interesting. And as such, lots of people with different opinions Declare The Truth Of Tavon. I do it myself, though part of me also tries to remember that there are widely different views on this. When it comes to that, I am personally more aligned with invader, who sees a guy who isn’t prepared or ready yet. What’s the difference between a player who CAN’T (do XY or Z) and a player who DOESN;T KNOW HOW TO YET (do XY or Z). I think sometimes people don’t account for the intangibles stuff–like when is a player lacking in a particular talent and when is he just playing without confidence or with mental hesitations. My own view is not that he is a “failure,” my view is that he needs to improve in a couple of areas, and that like Quick he’s slow to do it. This is the disadvantage of taking highly talented guys out of spread offenses—they are not pro ready, and sometimes take a couple of years to get it worked out. That makes them harder to judge.

    So anyway, yeah, he’s controversial. Here’s a typical exchange, from off the net.

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    we could have done a better job of that” I agree. He is basically saying we didn’t use him as well as we could have. Also mentioned using him on deep routes (tell me why we never even tried to??? telling me he cant run a go route?)

    X

    Well, think about what you’re implying.

    Schotty didn’t know TA could run a 9 or go route, but you did.

    OR
    Schotty knew he could, but chose not to use him in that capacity, because Schotty doesn’t like to move the ball downfield.

    Meanwhile, he used the crap out of Givens as a rookie on deep patterns and it worked.

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    How good is he in play action? I wonder his ability to fake handoffs. Is he really good a faking it? It is something we will have to see.

    PFF keeps stats on play action. The numbers don’t answer your question about his mechanics, but they do indicate that so far, he’s not that good at play action passes.

    In terms of completion percentage on play action throws, in 2014 he was ranked 33rd out of 39. In 2013, he was ranked 29th out of 41.

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    a little more on the not being pro-ready.

    tavon came to west virginia as a running back. and converted to receiver his freshman year. he had 15 receptions the first year and then 58 receptions the second year. wasn’t until his junior year that he really took off. now i’m not saying he is going to have 100 receptions next year. but i think 50 receptions is reasonable. with more explosive plays.

    as far as what fisher said. it could be open to interpretation. i take it as fisher thought they could have done a better job getting him in mismatches and getting him the ball where he could do damage. he also talked about lining him up wide. could it just be lip service? possibly. but for now at least i’ll take fisher’s word.

    I don’t think it was lip service. I just don’t think he said those specific things. For one thing they did line him up wide. That’s one of the things he CAN do, IMO. Eg. he had 15 catches (out of 40 total) in 2013 on the sidelines. That was 10 for 138 yards with a long of 57. In 2014 it’s 14 of 31 receptions on the sidelines with a long of 28. So technically, 1/3 of his receptions are on the outside.

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    . fisher himself has alluded to the fact that he was misused in

    I didn’t interpret Fisher as having said that, myself.

    Ithink the main problems are his size and the fact that he is thinking too much when he is out there.

    I agree with you that a lot of this is Tavon not being ready to be a pro-level receiver when he first arrived….and that that problem continued last year.

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    Seahawks’ Bruce Irvin says he’ll be playing for Falcons in ’16

    Terry Blount, ESPN Staff Writer

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12885252/seattle-seahawks-lb-bruce-irvin-says-playing-atlanta-falcons-2016

    Seattle Seahawks outside linebacker Bruce Irvin says he will be playing for the Atlanta Falcons in 2016.

    “I’m going to be in Atlanta next season,” Irvin told BlackSportsOnline.com while attending the Eastern Conference semifinals in Atlanta on Wednesday night. “I’m ready.”

    Bruce Irvin has had 16.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and three interceptions in his three seasons with the Seattle Seahawks. Kirby Lee/USA TODAY Sports
    The Seahawks did not pick up the fifth-year option on Irvin’s contract, which would have cost the team $7.8 million in 2016. Irvin is playing this season for $1.6 million.

    He sent out a couple of angry tweets last week about the Seahawks not picking up his option.

    “Faced way tougher adversity getting outta them streets coming up!” he tweeted. “That’s s— is nothing! F— THAT OPTION!”

    Irvin’s Sack Attack

    If Bruce Irvin sticks to his word and leaves Seattle, the lost production won’t be lost on the Seahawks. Most sacks in the first three seasons in franchise history:
    YR PLAYER TOTAL
    1982-84 Jeff Bryant 25.5
    1990-92 Cortez Kennedy 21.5
    2012-14 Bruce Irvin 16.5
    Note: Sacks official since 1982-83
    Irvin is from Atlanta and would like to play for new Falcons head coach Dan Quinn, who was the defensive coordinator with the Seahawks before taking the Atlanta job in February.

    Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff, addressing rumors during a radio appearance earlier this month, said he hadn’t given a second thought to acquiring Irvin because the linebacker is currently under contract.

    Irvin was asked Wednesday if he would stay in Seattle if the Seahawks anted up after this season.

    “Atlanta is where I want to be,” Irvin said. “Believe that.”

    Vaughn McClure of ESPN.com contributed to this report

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    Mike Florio

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/16/saturday-one-liners-45/

    Seahawks LB Bobby Wagner hopes to “soon” have a new contract, but to date he has “heard nothing.”

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    Patriots haven’t decided whether to appeal

    by Mike Florio on May 15, 2015

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/15/patriots-havent-decided-whether-to-appeal/

    Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has appealed his four-game suspension arising from his role in the #DeflateGate scandal. The Patriots have not yet filed an appeal of their own.

    Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Patriots haven’t decided whether to challenge the $1 million fine and two lost draft picks, a first-rounder in 2016 and a fourth-rounder in 2017. They have until next Thursday, May 21, to decide whether to file an appeal.

    Like Brady’s appeal, a review of the discipline would go to Commissioner Roger Goodell or his designee.

    The thinking is that the Patriots will take the full allotment of available time to make a decision. Even if an appeal is filed, it doesn’t mean that the Patriots will pursue litigation later.

    It’s far more likely that Brady and the NFL Players Association will pursue litigation, primarily because Goodell won’t be voluntarily stepping aside from personally handling the appeal.

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