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znModeratorznModeratorWatts not helping his cause to make the roster.
Meiosis (figure of speech)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn rhetoric, meiosis is a euphemistic figure of speech that intentionally understates something or implies that it is lesser in significance or size than it really is.
Examples
“The Troubles” a name for decades of violence in Northern Ireland.
“The Recent Unpleasantness,” used in the southern United States as an idiom to refer to the American Civil War and its aftermath.
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I think you picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue?
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A Good Sign For The St. Louis Rams In 2015?
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015/5/29/8656893/2014-darta-a-good-sign-for-the-2015-st-louis-rams
One single statistic from the 2014 season may be the best indicator of a winning season ahead for the 2015 St. Louis Rams.
For the Rams’ 2014 NFL regular season, I kept track of five key statistical measures and how they correlated to/affected the outcome of each game. Although these statistics were quite revealing and informative, something seemed to be missing from the statistical equation in explaining the Rams’ 6-10 record. “DARTA” attempts to fill in some of the blanks.
Of the five statistics I tracked this past season, two were the most telling: Turnover Differential and the Score At Half-Time. In the last two seasons, the Rams have not won a game unless they were leading or tied at half-time. Turnovers played a critical role in the teams’ fortunes in 2014. The Rams had a record of 3-0 in games with a positive turnover differential, and an 0-6 record in games with a negative turnover differential. The Rams had a zero turnover differential in seven games, and won three of them. In the four games the Rams didn’t turn over the ball, their record was 4-0.
“DARTA” (my terminology) takes a deeper look into turnovers and special teams play. The term stands for “Defensive And Return Touchdowns Allowed”. It accounts for the number of points a team allows on safeties, fumble returns, interception returns, blocked kicks, and kickoff/punt returns.
In 2014, the Rams gave up TEN touchdowns/70 points (by far the most in the NFL) in this statistical measure. 8 were defensive TD’s resulting from fumbles and interceptions, 1 resulted from a blocked punt, and the 10th was a 99-yard kickoff return by Kansas City’s Knile Davis. In contrast, Miami, Seattle, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Kansas City all gave up 2 points or less in this statistical measure last season.
Was there a correlation between DARTA and the Rams’ win/loss record in 2014? The Rams were 0-8 in games where they gave up a DARTA, and 6-2 in games where they didn’t give up a DARTA. It’s much harder to win a game when you’re spotting the opponent 7 easy points.
How could such poor results in DARTA last season possibly bode well for the Rams in the upcoming season?
A Top-Five Defense
The Rams gave up 354 points (22.1 ppg.) in the 2014 regular season. That put them in a tie for 16th in the NFL, an average result for the Rams defensively (at least on the surface). In reality, the Rams’ defense was much better than the rankings suggest. Total points allowed can be deceiving when determining the quality of a teams’ defense, especially if that team has an extremely high total of DARTA in a particular season. In the Rams’ case, the defense gave up only 284 points (17.8 ppg.) in 2014, putting them in the top half-dozen teams in the league in points allowed (when adjusted for DARTA). The Rams’ defense simply wasn’t on the field when the other 70 points were scored.
Five reasons the Rams’ defense should be even better in 2015:
Chris Long should be healthy and not miss a substantial part of the season.
Mark Barron will be with the Rams for the entire season.
The Rams didn’t lose a single starter from 2014 during the offseason.
The team added two quality, experienced players (Akeem Ayers and Nick Fairley) in Free Agency. Both should have a positive impact on the defense.
The unit now has an entire season under its collective belt in a Gregg Williams-led defense.Changes In Personnel/Offensive Philosophy
The Rams played their last 25 regular season games with backup quarterbacks as starters. In 2014, Austin Davis and Shaun Hill combined for 20 turnovers (16 interceptions and 4 lost fumbles).
The Rams acquired a starter-quality QB in the offseason (Nick Foles). Foles will not be asked to win games through the air, as the Rams are moving towards more of a run-based, ball control offense. The Rams’ 2015 NFL Draft picks made that clear, with the selection of 4 run-blocking OL and RB Todd Gurley with the 10th overall pick.
The addition of Foles – plus Jeff Fisher’s desire to keep the ball on the ground – should result in fewer turnovers by the offense (and by extension fewer DARTA). The Rams’ running backs were responsible for only 4 lost fumbles last season.
The Rams had 27 giveaways in 2014, which ranked 9th-worst in the NFL. There’s certainly room for improvement in this critical area of the game.
Statistical Observations
The likelihood of the Rams repeating their dismal 2014 results in DARTA this coming season isn’t very high, if for no other reason than regression towards the mean.
From Grantland’s Bill Barnwell:
“Because 16 games just aren’t enough to learn much about a team, we can usually safely say that teams that exhibit some extreme characteristic or have some event occur a freakishly high (or low) amount of the time will not have that same experience over the next 16 games. That’s simple regression toward the mean.”
Given the Rams’ recent history, their 2014 DARTA results would appear to be an outlier. The Rams’ DARTA for the 4 seasons prior to 2014: 5 in 2013, 3 in 2012, 4 in 2011, and 3 in 2010. Expect the Rams to significantly reduce their DARTA totals in 2015.
This coming season, the Rams will field their most talented team in the Snead/Fisher era. With a significant reduction in the number of turnovers and DARTA, the Rams should produce a winning record and vie for a playoff berth.
znModeratorSt. Louis Rams offseason roster review: An important year for defensive ends
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/18822/st-louis-rams-offseason-roster-review
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams don’t start organized team activities until June 2 but with most of the offseason heavy lifting complete, the roster you see now likely has the vast majority of players who will be on it come the start of the regular season.
With that in mind, we’ll spend the next week or so delving into each position group with some thoughts on who will start, who might be on the bubble and how the depth chart could shake out.
Position: Defensive end
Returning: Chris Long, Robert Quinn, Eugene Sims, William Hayes, Ethan Westbrooks
Newcomers: Martin Ifedi, Matt Longacre
Departures: None
Projected starter(s): Quinn, Long
Battle to watch: There’s very little drama to be found here as Quinn and Long are set in their spots with Hayes and Sims as one of the best backup duos in the league. That leaves a battle similar to what the Rams had in last year’s camp although with far less profile for a fifth defensive end. In 2014, it was Ethan Westbrooks overcoming Michael Sam for the fifth end and ninth defensive lineman spot. This year, the battle figures to center on Westbrooks and Ifedi. Ifedi is a seventh-round pick but is coming off injury and the Rams are intrigued by his upside. But Westbrooks is also a player the Rams believe in and his versatility makes him especially enticing. Longacre can’t be entirely overlooked, either, after a wildly productive college career.
Outlook: This is an interesting and big year for this group. Quinn is locked in through the 2019 season and remains the team’s most proven elite player. Beyond Quinn, though, there are plenty of questions that need answering. Long would be the first to say he needs to have a strong bounce back year after an injury derailed his 2014 season. Even after coming back from that ailment, he was playing at about two-thirds of his usual speed. He’s due to count more than $14 million against the cap in 2016 so ideally he could get back up to speed and earn an extension. Sims and Hayes add important depth because of their ability to line up anywhere on the line but both are also scheduled to become unrestricted free agents after the season. Westbrooks has similar versatility to Hayes and Sims and some believe Ifedi could offer the same. Much is expected from this group in 2015 and the more it provides, the better the chances it will have to remain together beyond this season.
znModeratorWhat’s the Rams without an annual PEDs scandal.
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ACL injuries most often occur in non-contact situations, usually where the foot is planted on the floor. When forces are passed through the leg, if the foot is planted the stress on the knee is increased, resulting in knee injuries.I tried to explain non-contact knee stuff to a buncha posters “elsewhere” once and they were all skeptical and derisive.
When you look up the actual medical stuff, the picture is not so simple.
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znModeratorWe have a thread here somewhere on ACLs. In it there’s an article about how 70% of ACL injuries are non-contact.
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znModeratorBumped cause it became relevant
znModeratorAnyway, I just wondered what the heck is going on with ACLs these days. It is becoming routine to have some guy tear up a knee just with an “awkward set” of some kind. Think of Sam’s 2 ACLs, neither of which was the result of much contact.
We have a thread here somewhere on ACLs. In it there’s an article about how 70% of ACL injuries are non-contact.
znModeratorSt. Louis Rams offseason roster review: A new-look offensive line
By Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams don’t start organized team activities until June 2, but with most of the offseason heavy lifting complete, the roster you see now likely has the vast majority of players who will be on it come the start of the regular season.
With that in mind, we’ll spend the next week or so delving into each position group with some thoughts on who will start, who might be on the bubble and how the depth chart could shake out.
Position: Offensive line
Returning: Rodger Saffold, Greg Robinson, Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones, Demetrius Rhaney, Brandon Washington, Travis Bond, Steven Baker
Newcomers: Garrett Reynolds, Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown, Andrew Donnal, Cody Wichmann, David Wang, Darrell Williams
Departures: Jake Long, Scott Wells, Joe Barksdale, Davin Joseph, Mike Person
Projected starter(s): Robinson, Saffold, Barnes, Brown, Havenstein
Battle to watch: There’s no shortage of choices here given the amount of turnover on the offensive line, but the choice is clear: starting center. The Rams have three obvious candidates in Barnes, Jones and Rhaney. Barnes is the only one of the three with any sort of real playing time in the NFL though even that is limited to four starts and the bulk of another game as a replacement for Wells. He re-signed after the team didn’t tender him as a restricted free agent. The Rams have invested two years in Jones, who hasn’t been able to stay healthy but by all accounts is smart enough and up to speed on the playbook to step in and handle the mental side of things right away. Rhaney is more of an unknown after he arrived as a seventh-round pick last year and never got going because of an injury. The Rams like Jones’ intelligence, Barnes’ experience and Rhaney’s toughness, which means this figures to be a wide-open competition as we head toward organized team activities and training camp. Barnes might be the current favorite on paper but keep a close eye on Jones and Rhaney as we proceed.
Outlook: There is no group on the roster that has undergone more change than the offensive line this offseason. Only Saffold was a starter on opening day in 2014 and though Robinson got his share of experience as the season went on, he’s undoubtedly still a work in progress at left tackle. With center an unknown commodity, the Rams look like they’re going to rely on a pair of rookies at the other guard spot and right tackle. Havenstein is all but set as Barksdale’s replacement at right tackle and, as it stands, Brown looks like the favorite to win the other guard job. That plan could be put on hold if either struggles early on, though, as Reynolds could be a spot starter until Brown or Havenstein gets up to speed. The Rams could also theoretically still pursue a veteran like guard Justin Blalock. It’s a move that still makes too much sense for the Rams not to do it, but there hasn’t been any urgency on either side to make that happen. Beyond that, the Rams don’t have much in the way of experience among the backups. Line coach Paul Boudreau has a big task in front of him to make all of the moving pieces fit together in a short period of time
May 29, 2015 at 12:24 pm in reply to: take an early guess…what will the offensive approach be? #25469znModeratorfrom off the net
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1. Long TD and field position-changing plays.
2. An average push from his offensive front that makes defenses fear his running game.
In other words I believe Fisher wants greater efficiency in his running game, higher YPC and threat from big plays. NOT higher number of runs. Everyone keeps acting like he’s demanding more running game, but I don’t think it’s true in his time with the Rams. If he gets the big plays from Mason and Gurley along with a strong surge from an OL that defenses fear, he isn’t going to need to run the ball more. The passing game will suddenly be far more dangerous.
IMO the dude knows you win in this league by scoring points which means you gotta throw the ball. He just knows throwing it is easier with a potent running game that defenses fear.
May 29, 2015 at 9:53 am in reply to: The OL injuries around the league thread… Giants, Broncos #25466znModeratorRyan Clady’s injury makes Broncos’ offensive line a bigger work in progress
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — In a decidedly unexpected turn of events, the Denver Broncos’ search for three new starters on the offensive line suddenly, with one awkward pass set, has become a search for four new starters.
Left tackle Ryan Clady, who along with right guard Louis Vasquez was one of the starters the Broncos actually had in place in what will be a shuffled offensive front this season, tore his left ACL Wednesday in practice. Initially the Broncos believed Clady’s injury was not serious, but an MRI Thursday morning told them otherwise, and Clady is now poised to miss the 2015 season.
That makes Vasquez the only player currently working on the Broncos’ offensive line who started games at the same position for the team in 2014. In short, the Broncos now have openings at left tackle, left guard, center and right tackle.
“I’m kind of the only man left standing who’s been in the line the past three years,” Vasquez said. “With a leader like Clady going down, I put it upon myself to kind of carry the group.”
“Obviously up front we’ve got some young guys; they’re going to have to accelerate their process here,” said Broncos coach Gary Kubiak. “… It’s a tough road, but it’s one where you’ve got to step up and accept the challenge.”
Although Michael Schofield has worked as Clady’s backup in recent workouts, rookie Ty Sambrailo, who was the Broncos’ second-round pick in this year’s draft, moved into the left tackle spot with the starting offense in practice Thursday.
The thinking, Kubiak said, was the Broncos like Sambrailo’s potential so the coaches decided to see if that potential could be turned into performance as quickly as possible.
“We felt like when we drafted Ty he was athletic enough to play on both sides,” Kubiak said. “The situation being what it is … hey let’s do it right now, let’s put him over there, let’s see how he does, let’s not waste any more time.”
Kubiak also added: “We felt like ‘let’s start working him there today.’ …We’ll see what happens.”
Sambrailo started 42 games at left tackle at Colorado State and the Broncos drafted him with the idea that would eventually be his primary position in the NFL and he would play at right tackle if needed.
“He’s not a rookie any more,” Kubiak said. “As of today, he’s about a four-year player. We’ve got to get him going.”
However, Kubiak and offensive coordinator Rick Dennison said both Schofield and Chris Clark would get some work at left as the Broncos move forward. Initially, having had just two organized team activities, the Broncos used Clark at right tackle with the starters, Gino Gradkowski at center, Ben Garland at left guard to go with Sambrailo at left tackle on Thursday.
The Broncos have made it fairly clear they’re pushing a tough movement overall in the offensive front, but they did sign guard Shelley Smith in free agency as a depth player with experience in Kubiak’s offense, and Thursday they agreed to terms with tackle Ryan Harris, who has played for both the Broncos and Texans.
Dennison, a long-time offensive line coach with the Broncos previously in his career, said the Broncos would like to keep working Clark at right tackle at the moment, but left open the possibility the Broncos would move players around up front for the remainder of OTAs, training camp and into the preseason.
When asked if Clady’s injury and the number of new starters the team will have compared to last season would potentially impact how the Broncos would plan for the regular season, Dennison said: “We’re going to do what we do best. …I don’t know that it will change it, I don’t know if it will or won’t, I don’t have a crystal ball. Certainly we have a lot of talent; we’ll win some games, do our part.”
May 28, 2015 at 9:44 pm in reply to: The OL injuries around the league thread… Giants, Broncos #25457znModeratorDan Graziano @DanGrazianoESPN
Sources say free-agent OT Jake Long visited the Giants today. Obviously interesting light of Beatty injury.
znModeratorSt. Louis Rams offseason roster review: Standing pat at receiver with Kenny Britt back
By Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams don’t start Organized Team Activities until June 2 but with most of the offseason heavy lifting complete, the roster you see now likely consists of most of the players who will be on it when the regular season starts.
With that in mind, we’ll spend the next week or so delving into each position group with some thoughts on who will start, who might be on the bubble, and how the depth chart could shake out.
Position: Wide receiver
Returning: Kenny Britt, Tavon Austin, Brian Quick, Stedman Bailey, Chris Givens, Emory Blake, Devon Wylie, Damian Williams
Newcomers: Bud Sasser, Bradley Marquez, Isiah Ferguson, Daniel Rodriguez, Tyler Slavin
Departures: None
Projected starter(s): Britt, Quick
Battle to watch: It might fly under the radar, but it’s fair to wonder whether Bailey has a chance to unseat Austin in the slot. But the reality is that both will get opportunities with the bigger, more physical Britt and Quick on the outside, which could leave an intriguing battle for the fifth receiver spot. The Rams have kept six receivers in the past but tend to prefer to keep an extra tight end. If they only keep five, the onus then falls on Givens to secure his spot. Givens was once considered the top receiver on the team but hasn’t developed beyond being a deep threat. Givens is entering the final year of his contract and if he is unable to chip in on special teams, the Rams could look to replace him. Sasser stands as the most likely to claim the job after the Rams used a sixth-round pick on him in this year’s draft. Sasser is a bigger, more physical threat than Givens and would seem to fit into the power running offense with his ability as a blocker. The rest of the group probably won’t pose much of a threat, though it’s always possible an under-the-radar wideout could emerge as a dark horse.
Outlook: The Rams could undoubtedly use more production from this group after it was second-worst in the NFL behind the Kansas City Chiefs in combined receiving yards last season. Getting Quick back at full strength and re-signing Britt offers plenty in the way of continuity. Britt led the team in receiving yards a year ago and could become a prime deep target for new quarterback Nick Foles. The Rams won’t ask much of their receivers in the passing game, but those who prove capable of helping as blockers in the run game should be on the field the most. When they aren’t doing that, the Rams’ play-action game will ask this group to make plays down the field. Quick is a free agent after the season and needs a big season to prove he can be the guy who flashed potential last year before a season-ending shoulder injury. The Rams must find a way to use Austin more effectively than the past two seasons. As it stands, Austin looks like a square peg in a round hole, but new coordinator Frank Cignetti has vowed to get him more involved. No matter where it comes from, the Rams need this group to do more in 2015.
znModeratori was wondering if anyone posted this. wow. strong words from boudreau,
The original is here.
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/what-the-college-spread-new-cba-did-to-ol-coaching-rams-come-up/
znModeratorfrom off the net
QUOTATION OF THE DAY==
Prometheus Faulk
If Quinn is part of the problem, the solution is madness.
znModeratorAndrew Brandt joined Kevin Wheeler to talk about deflategate and why Kraft stood down from his appeal, what’s next for Tom Brady, and then they got into a lengthy discussion about LA. They discussed the backroom politics and how it will affect Kroenke, the NFL’s motive to get to LA, how this situation will be handled going forward.
May 28, 2015 at 12:57 pm in reply to: take an early guess…what will the offensive approach be? #25435znModeratorA Point Guard is the player who stands in the crease circle mid-field, and kicks the puck to the shortstops, who try to knock it over the wicket.
You are very confused there. You’re mixing up the moves allowed by a rook and by a knight.
I won’t add in what a “get out of jail free” card does with all this because it complicates the entire thing.
May 28, 2015 at 11:01 am in reply to: take an early guess…what will the offensive approach be? #25432znModeratorfrom off the net
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compared to the rest of the league…I expect they’ll be considered more of a running team. But this isn’t the ’84 Rams throwing 19 times a game… At MOST they’ll be 50/50 and still be throwing the ball 480-500 times.
Four teams had 500+ rushing attempts last year (HOU, SEA, DAL, NYJ). Cincy was 5th with 492. I expect the Rams to want to be in that range. Of those five only Seattle averaged less than 30 pass attempts/game and that’s only because Wilson is a running threat.
Last year the Rams were actually tilted more toward the pass (515 pass attempts/395 rush attempts). I’m sure Fisher wants them at 450+ rush attempts at least (which would be top 10 in the league). That also means that regardless of when Gurley starts playing or how much they can use him Mason should see the ball quite a bit.
Rams were about 59/41 last year..depending on how you want to look at their numbers. If you include sacks allowed and rushing attempts by the QBs the Rams were 59/41. Exclude the 26 QB rushing attempts and they were actually 60/40…
Either way not where Fisher wants this team to be..
I think they need to run more to (a) increase the total number of plays run by the offense (be more at 1,000+ vs. 957- about 3 more per game) and then reduce the number of sacks allowed (47).
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znModeratorI got to meet Mark and Meg a couple of times. It’s hard to imagine the world without the bits we all got from “this board” in it. And of course, the actual site location has changed a couple of times (which is why I put the term “this board” in quotation marks…this board is not a location, it something else). It may have changed but the things we all keep getting from it keep adding up.
znModeratorRookie Profile: Jamon Brown
Get to know the Rams 2015 third round draft pick Jamon Brown.
znModeratorwhat exactly does the defense need to do to get in the top 5?
Interesting question. IMO? This is an experiment.
Two things the real top defenses have in common—
Yards per pass attempt allowed
1 Denver Broncos 6.0
2 Seattle Seahawks 6.3
3 Cleveland Browns 6.4
4 Buffalo Bills 6.4
5 Kansas City Chiefs 6.4
6 Cincinnati Bengals 6.6
7 Houston Texans 6.7
8 Detroit Lions 6.8
9 San Francisco 49ers 6.8
10 Green Bay Packers 6.9Avg. points per play allowed
1 Kansas City 0.274
2 Seattle 0.277
3 Buffalo 0.281
4 Houston 0.285
5 Detroit 0.293
6 Arizona 0.300
7 Cleveland 0.301
8 Baltimore 0.302
9 New England 0.303
10 Cincinnati 0.325Who is on both lists?
1 Seattle
2 Buffalo
3 Cleveland
4 Kansas City
5 Houston
6 Cincinnati
7 DetroitMay 27, 2015 at 8:34 pm in reply to: what the college spread & new CBA did to OL coaching (Rams come up) #25403znModerator“..Greg Robinson as a rookie has more talent and is a better player than Willie Roaf. Willie had a great coach…”
Yeah I wonder about that, it’s a pretty heavy duty comparison.
Boudreau knew Roaf with the Saints, but Roaf of course went on to be part of one of the true “greatest ever” level OLs with the Chiefs.
znModeratorI like d how Foles updated and fixed the narrative of the story…
I thought that was classy of him to adjust the narrative.Nick Foles @NFoles_9
Clarification–
znModeratorznModeratorznModeratorIfedi sounds iffy.
As someone recently pointed out, last year, more UDFAs made the team than low-round picks did.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=2510&type=team
In the last 3 years, any player drafted higher than 200 has made the team, except Rok. <So, someone should not play with play with the adults.
By low round I meant 6th and 7th rounders. Last year, if you count Rhaney and Bryant, and then of course Gaines, 3 6th/7th round picks made the team at one level or another. 4 UDFAs presumably did. I don’t know, I don’t remember all the 2014 UDFAs. There’s at least Bayer and Roberson and Cunningham. I don’t know how many there were on the PS but I think it includes Baker.
The problem with me playing with the adults is, I have an adult’s memory sometimes. IE…not that good…
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reason for optimism?
logically this team looks like a 6-10 team if you just project last years production onto the 2015 roster but there is hope…sort of
dline..odds are Quinn is still the guy who is dominated by good ot’s BUT he might play to his 2013 level. 10.5 sacks in 2012, 19 in 2013 and 10.5 in 2014..which year is the outlier? What happens in 2015?
C Long’s sack totals have been decreasing for 4 seasons 13.5,11, 8.5 and 1 ..but he might find the fountain of youth
Detroit lost Suh as a fa and still happily parted company with Fairley…but he did get 17 hurries last year while only playing in 8 games…that’s elite production
Akeem Ayers had character issues coming out of college and has been a bust since drafted in the 2nd rd by Tenn and was let go by Belichick after playing with NE for only 9 games BUT did get 4 sacks in those 9 games
think Williams is a great coach and synergy matters…with Donald Rams still could lead the NFL in sacks and have a top 10 D..maybe top 5 if their cb play improves. .
Foles had 2 very avg seasons sandwiched in between one good one..logic says it was because teams hadn’t figured out Kelly’s offense in 2013 yet BUT Foles did throw 27 td’s with only 2 int in 2013… I see huge upside in Mannion while many experts see slow feet. Davis did flash for 4 games last year and could improve on his weaknesses.
Quick has been a total bust BUT maybe this will be his year..did flash in those 6 games last year when he was healthy..
T Austin also has a total bust but recently saw a picture of him without a shirt on…much bigger/more muscles and finally looks big enough to run through arm tackles.. Quick is the Rams best blocing wr..time to see some screens to Austin with Quick blocking. It could be Austins breakout year
Stedman Bailey is too short and too slow but that acrobatic youtube catch where he catches a ball one handed after doing a flip speaks volumes about his desire..desire matters. He does have the eye of the tiger
Gurley might start on the preseason pup list and only get 5-10 carries a game but they will be elite, Adrian Peterson, type carries…along with Mason rams could have a great running attack
Havenstein can flat out block and Jamon Brown sparq ranking was 22nd out of 301 olinemen..being smart, huge and athletic doesn’t suck. There is a real chance Rams hit 2 home runs with their Havenstein and Brown picks
if Gurley can give the Rams those 5-10 carries and one of the wr’s step up and Quinn plays to his 2013 level Rams could be THE surprise team in 2015. At least there is a chance
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