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Frankly, I think Quick has ripped the starting job out of Givens’ hands and may have put him off the team since Givens doesn’t play special teams. I think those last two slots go to special teamers. Or maybe Pettis and a special teamer. I dunno.
Preseason will count more for this WR corps than other units, I think…
I agree with all that.
Oh and here’s an especially hard view of Givens fwiw.
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blubravery
He was never a route runner. Last year was his first year he tried to add to his route tree to be a more well rounded player and it failed.
He is a one trick receiver, send him out and use his speed. There have been plenty of receivers that have made careers out of being fly receivers, but you can usually outdraft them.
If Quick, Bailey, and Britt translate their skills to the regular season you will see more production from him in packages because they will draw the coverages and he will be able to get into more one on one situations.
He is what he is.
znModeratori think it also says something about the wr corps too though. more experience. more confidence. i think they’re more capable of helping bradford out.
I think I have said bits of this before, a lot, but it’s worth putting here all in one place.
Just a summary of some thoughts. It’s a response to the idea, which you see out there a lot, that Bradford is the checkdown king.
IMO the 1st 4 games of 2013 gave a false impression and fostered this checkdown king idea. According to Schottenheimer, they threw short in those games to make up for not being able to run. (Which some say was because Richardson was hurt, and I think was because Richardson was no feature back, healthy or not.)
Numbers back that. In 2013 Bradford threw at or behind the LOS far more than he did in 2012.Meanwhile when the Rams have a running threat (Jackson, Stacy) they throw down the field.
According to PFF, on the number of passes going for 20 yards or more in 2012, Bradford ranks 7th. Tied with Manning.
“Number of” can be misleading though. So what PERCENTAGE of Bradford’s total attempts in 2012 went for 20 yards or more?
According to PFF, it’s 13.1%, which is ranked 9th.
That’s a higher percentage than Newton, Eli, Manning, Brees, Stafford, Rodgers, Rivers, Ryan, Romo, and Roethlisberger.
The “checkdown” thing IMO is a misrepresentation fostered by the 1st 4 games of 2013.
In principle, the offense with Stacy and Bradford is just not different from the offense with Jackson and Bradford. Same thing, same coordinator–power running, ball control passing, play action + big passing plays. All those things combined, with the run/ball control going hand in hand with the downfield shots–each aspect is an important part of the total equation.
So I expect to see in 2014 a more nuanced, better version of the 2012 offense.
As this thread shows, if you listen to Bradford and Fisher talk about the offense so far this summer they emphasize the downfield game. Yes they talk about the run too–but they also emphasize the downfield game. Camp reports btw back that up–it’s what different fans who regularly go to camp are seeing.
Now IMO what has been missing is the medium/deep medium pass (11-20 yards, 21-30 yards). But there are all sorts of signs right now that they are correcting that. You see it in camp reports–it’s not just that they are throwing 31+ yarders, they are throwing in that 11-30 range too. I don’t know for a “for certain” fact that will carry over into the season, but I bet it does.
I don’t think Fisher wants a ball control offense/top defense type team. Where they keep the ball, keep scores down, and dominate that way. Well he wants that, partly, but IMO he wants more than that. I think what he actually wants is an offense that scores so the defense plays with a lead. I think he wants to unleash the beast. I don’t think he wants to control games, I think he wants to break games open. So that goes along with the “yes run but strike with big plays” approach to offense. Get that defense on the field with a lead, in full throttle demolish mode.
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znModeratorMy wife and I saw it too. We both really liked it. I would say it is among the best marvel films I’ve seen. For me, Avengers is still tops but I would rank GotG just beneath it.
I have a minor goof moment to mention though. Remember when Quill is trying to talk Drax out of killing Gamora, and when he says you can kill Ronan, he runs his finger across his throat in the famous “execution” gesture, and Drax doesn’t get it because his species doesn’t get metaphors.
But! Earlier in the same monologue, Quill tells Drax that Gamorra’s violence didn’t bother him, and lists the women who have assaulted him. He points to one scar and says “see that? I got that from a smoking hot Rayjack girl who stabbed me with a fork.”
Well…how does Drax know what “smoking hot” means? It’s a metaphor.
Granted, I don’t think it brings the whole film down…….
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znModeratorJust listening to JT on 101 (Thanks zn for posting the link). Wells was sick with a virus of some sort and lost a lot of weight was the reason he was held out so not injury related and is now back .
Yeah somehow that didn’t get out there…that Wells was just ill. Only Thomas said anything (that I recall).
It sure would be nice if he could hold up this year. He has some skills beyond just being the smart guy who makes the line calls. Jackson, when he was here, said that Wells was very quick getting to the 2nd level–SJ even said it was something he had to adjust to.
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znModeratorI sure hope Quick becomes what we all had hoped he would become!
It’s all very exciting.Maybe they have enough this year to do what they need to do.
BRADFORD: “I think this is probably the deepest group [of receivers] we’ve had since I’ve been here, the most talented group we’ve had since I’ve been here.”
Interesting he should say that since all they did was add Britt. I think he must mean guys are maturing. Bailey, for example. We’re beginning to see he has a chemistry with Bailey. Or we have seen glimpses of that so far.
A history of Rams receivers with Bradford (adapted/stolen from a different poster on another board but heavily revised by me).
2010:
Clayton – injured early but there was chemistry with Bradford when Clayton could play
Alexander – played in 7 games
Gibson – rookie
Amendola – 3rd year player, but short-gain slot guy
Robinson – banged up all year2011:
Offense out of sync all year due to learning new scheme without an off-season and getting massively injured
Alexander – productive in 5 games
Amendola – hurt early
Gibson – banged up, missed time
Lloyd – came late in a trade but played well
Pettis – rookie and looked it2012:
Amendola – 5th year pro, and Schottenheimer used him well, but only played half the season
Gibson – okay, decently productive
Pettis – barely used, but he’s a role player
Givens – showed some rookie stuff but fell off in 2013
Quick – de facto redshirt2013:
Austin – not really an every-down receiver, was a little overwhelmed early, but obviously a top weapon
Pettis – used a little more than before, productive within his role
Givens – his 2nd year an off-year as said
Bailey – late start, promising
Quick – redshirt year 2**
He did have receivers before, if Amendola and Clayton had stayed healthy (Alexander was a gamble). Imagine 2012 if they had DA all year plus Clayton.
znModeratorMack, wanted you to know you inspired another, different, though partly related thread (in case you didn’t see it): http://theramshuddle.com/topic/the-nfl-medical-marijuana/
znModeratorAnd thanks again, W.
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znModeratorOops. I can’t upload screenshots on this forum. Hmm… that makes this trickier.
Thanks for all that work.
As for screencaps, Ag would know more about that.
All I know is this. Save screencaps to your own computer and then post them as images using “img.”
One safe/easy way to do that is to use “picsizer” to convert them to pngs.
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znModeratorOkay, I thought there was a definite dedicated string for this kind of message
As a rule the dedicated thread is a good idea. Since that one was a “camp report” from scrimmage, it’s just an exception….he does more than repeat Demoff on moving/staying. It’s true that the guy has a particular line he’s taking. But that’s okay, under the circumstances, this one time…and I had the choice between editing it out or thinking it was just a couple of paragraphs in the middle of something else, and editing it seemed weird. So it’s okay here, as a kind of one-time exception, as is the fact that you responded to it here.
It should probably stop here, though.
znModeratormore follow-up (ongoing)
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COACHO
I think most of the negative reports on Joyner were from the first couple of days in camp, prior to them working in any of the sub packages (Nickel) and he was exposed on the outside as a CB. He is not a true CB.
When they put him in the Nickel role, his instincts became much more visible. He will never be a guy who can just turn and run with a speed guy. But he understands coverages, and in Williams scheme he should be very good.
…Williams teach[es]..his players to make pre snap reads and adjustments with regards to their assignments, similar to what offense require from WRs. [ie sight adjustments]... He allows them to “free lance” , and by that, I mean, don’t be afraid to come off your man if you see an opportunity to make a play.
Seattle does this type of thing, and it is where Sherman gets most of his interceptions. They play a ton of zone coverage, and Sherman is very good at releasing and flying to the ball. This is the type of player I envision Joyner becoming. His instincts, and football IQ are his biggest assets. IMO, it was not by accident that he and Gaines both have had multiple INTs in the first week of camp.
My biggest concern, honestly, is him holding up in a 16 game schedule, especially with the reckless abandon he plays with.
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Jones has been M I A for the past two days. No reports on what is going on with him. Joseph left practice EARLY on Friday, but was back up and manning the RG spot at the dome.
Saffold, it appears suffered a stinger on Friday, (I didn’t think it was his hand or wrist as was reported), so he should be back in the mix in a few days.
Wells & Long are gradually getting more involved in the 11 on 11 stuff, but even when they are considered back to 100%, I don’t imagine they will ever be out there for every rep.
At this point, I think the best thing that can happen for this team, on both sides of the ball, is to play a game against someone else. As Fisher has said more than once, they are playing hard, but are “protecting their teammates” which can also expose them to things if they aren’t going full speed.
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I may be going way out on the ledge here, but it wouldn’t shock me if when Sept 7th rolls around that you find Saffold at LG and Joseph at RG, and Robinson watching. At least for a few weeks. Then again, I may totally off base, and he becomes the guy they think he will be within the next 5 weeks.
But lets not forget, he is 8 practices into his FIRST TRAINING CAMP, working at TWO positions. I would be shocked if the dual responsibilities continue much longer. At best, he may take some LT reps vs. New Orleans, and then settle in to the LG spot they intend on using him at.
The bigger concern for me, is his propensity for false starts, which has been a daily occurrence. its literally happening EVERY DAY, and Friday he was openly chastised by the coaching staff. Which is the first time they didn’t seem to care who heard it.
Travis Bond is one guy I want to see perform in the Preseason. He definitely passed the “eye test” and is every bit as big as G. Robinson. He has been primarily at RG with the 2nd unit since training camp has started. Moves pretty well for his size, and another one of those guys when he gets his hands on you its over.
Robert Person has Practice Squad written all over him. He is a little bigger this year, but just seems to struggle when facing the top units.about as good as one could hop
Jake Long looks about as good as one could hope for in his limited time back. Shaking off the rust, and using his experience while squaring off vs. Quinn.
znModeratorIf the draft were held next week,
what position would be
the highest ‘need‘ on the Rams ?Any position jump out at you?
And yes, i know its “too soon to know”.
But what does your gut tell you?OT?
CB?
Center?
WR?
QB?w
vOne guy? CB.
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znModeratorAlthough he’s said nothing definitively, at the start of camp Fisher hinted strongly that Bradford won’t play in Friday’s exhibition opener against the Saints. Either way, Bradford is fine.
Hmm. I was interested in seeing how he looks.
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August 2, 2014 at 11:49 pm in reply to: Fisher, Bradford, Donald, Ogletree post-scrimmage – vids + transcripts #3135znModeratorRams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – August 2, 2014
(Opening statement)
“Well that puts an exclamation point on a really good week of training camp practice today. You know the players are always to come down to this event particularly because of the fan participation and the attendance. We had a great attendance and I think the fans got to see a lot of good things did today, as we did from a coaching standpoint. A lot of big plays down the field. If there’s any question about Sam’s ability to play the position, I think it was answered today, at least early here in camp. He’s really had a good week of camp. Some great throws today. So we’re going to a take a little break, get their bodies back. We’ll get back to work on Monday and be back here in the building here in less than a week. So, the players are excited about it.”(On what WR Stedman Bailey can bring to the team and on how much they’ll miss having him in the beginning of the season due to his suspension)
“I think, not only ‘Sted,’ but all the receivers are having a really big camp. (WR) Brian Quick took the day off today. He’s had some really good days thus far, but Sted made a lot of plays today. He’s there. He knows how to get open, and knows how to make the plays. Yes, we’ll miss him, but he’s going to push right through camp and we’ll get through his ordeal and we’ll get him right back in the lineup.”(On how he plans to go about deciding where to work Bailey in considering his suspension)
“He’s going to get plenty of work and so are the other guys. We’ve got four preseason games and there’s plenty of snaps, plenty of practice snaps to have him ready. We’ll probably adjust things right prior to the final cut down.”(On if any of the rookies were ‘wide-eyed’ during their first time playing at the Edward Jones Dome)
“No, there was nobody. This game is not too big for any of our rookies. They’ve all accepted their responsibilities very well. They’re practicing well and again we’re mixing them in with the veterans. We had a young period there at the end, it was predominantly young players, but for the most part on the practice field the ‘rooks’ are mixing in with the ‘vets’ and doing just fine.”(On the strength on Bradford’s arm)
“Well he did a lot of extra conditioning in addition to the rehab on the knee. He is, he’s throwing very well. We’re watching the pitch counts right now and he’s not having any problems and you can see those balls were humming today, especially the deep ball to (WR) Kenny (Britt).”(On if there is a specific pitch count for Bradford)
“Well we’re just watching and monitoring it. We’re going to make sure we don’t do too much.”(On if there is a preset number of throws for Bradford each practice)
“I’m not going into detail, how many. You can see how he did today and those that have been to practice here, you can see that he’s not having any difficulty with the ball and the arm.”(On if any rookies stood out today in the scrimmage)
“Well, we’ll take into consideration the fact that they had a lot of reps prior to that and they were tired. And it was obvious just watching them they were tired, so they weren’t as explosive. And at the end of the camp they are going to be tired, but we’ll get there legs back. But yeah, they’re all contributing in different ways. (OL) Greg (Robinson) is playing two different positions right now. Obviously (DT Aaron) Donald made a big play, which we expect out him at the goal line, in the second goal line live period. We’re expecting those kind of things out of them. We’ve got a couple guys that are nicked that we expect back on the field next week.”(On how Greg Robinson is doing playing two positions)
“He’s doing fine. He’s handling it. Doing fine.”Rams QB Sam Bradford – August 2, 2014
(On it being a productive day)
“Yeah. It was a pretty productive day. To be honest, I think we’ve had a really good first week as an offense. We pushed the ball down the field. The guys on the perimeter are playing great right now making a lot of plays for us. It’s always a good thing to see it from my end.”(On the depth of the wide receiving core and how many guys can play a role)
“Absolutely. I think this is probably the deepest group we’ve had since I’ve been here, the most talented group we’ve had since I’ve been here. I think they’ve shown it. We rotate five or six guys in there with the 1s, you don’t really notice a drop off no matter who’s in there and to have the ability to do that, to kind of move guys from position to position, I think that’s going to be a big advantage for us.”(On how he manages the ball and gets chemistry with each player)
“It’s just a lot of work. You have to throw it out on air, getting the feel for where we’re going to be in certain contact. But I think it was big this spring. We put a lot of time into just throwing routes and I think it’s paid off or us during the early part of training camp.”(On WR Stedman Bailey’s continuing to practice hard)
“Sted’s looked good all camp. He’s a very smart receiver. He’s always in the right place. He’s got a great instinct, just about feeling different zones and getting open. I think he’s going to be a big target in the offense this year and I think it showed today. He caught a lot of balls out here today.(On whether his upper body has gotten strong due to his knee injury)
“Yeah. I think coming into this camp, obviously, if you go back to the time of the injury you spend more time working on your upper body just because you are limited as to what you can do with your lower body. So coming into this camp is probably the strongest I’ve been from the waist up and I think it probably has paid off a little bit. I feel like I do have a little more zip on the ball and feel like I can make some of those throws that maybe were a little slower last year.”(On his general thoughts on the offense as a whole at this point in camp)
“Really pleased with where the offense is right now. Some of the things we’ve done early in camp. I think going into next week, a big part of our plan is going to be attention to detail. We’ve had the bulk of our install. We’ve put in most of the playbook. Next week is going to be more of a review and making sure we cleanup some of the mistakes we had this week.”(On WR Stedman Bailey’s performance)
“Stedman’s been great all camp, all spring. I think he’s going to be a big part of what we do when he gets back. Obviously, it’s a bummer that he’s not going to be with us the first four, but when he comes back, the timing and everything that we’re doing right now is to make sure that we’re ready when he does get back. He’s been very productive.”(On how valuable his time with Bailey was in Norman, Okla. over the offseason)
“It’s huge. Especially knowing that we were going to spend a couple weeks without him. I think those two days with him in Norman were probably even more valuable than with some of the other guys. Making sure that we have everything down before he has to leave the building.”(On if he is on a pitch count and if the number of throws are being monitored)
“No, it’s something that we actually started when (Head) Coach (Jeff) Fisher arrived. We’ve done it every year. One of our assistant strength coaches kind of monitors my drop backs and my throws, lets me know at the end of the day and that way I can track it over a couple day period and make sure it doesn’t exceed a certain number.”(On if he knows coming in if he has a throw limit)
“It’s not really a set limit. It’s just more for my knowledge and Coach’s knowledge to know where we’re at. If he gets a little excessive over a couple-day range, then we back it down, especially some of the deeper throws.(On if he has been backed down this year in a practice so far)
“Not yet. Not this year, no.”(On if he feels the brace when he has it on and if he thinks about it)
“No. I mean I’ve worn this brace since college. So I don’t really notice it. It’s funny all the other quarterbacks they have to wear them now, too, and they kind of complain. But, I’m like if you wear it for a while it kind of goes away.”(On if it’s the exact same brace)
“Oh no. Not the exact same one.”(On if he would be less hesitant to run the ball considering his injury)
“No. I mean, you’ve got to be the same quarterback. Obviously, I think I’ll be a little smarter about getting down. If there’s anyone in my vicinity, I’ll probably slide and get to the next play. But, you know you can’t be afraid to take off and run. It’s part of the position. Part of the game.”(On if there’s a jolt of energy practicing at the Edward Jones Dome in front of the fans)
“Yeah. This is probably the most exciting day we have in training camp. Just for the fact that it breaks the routine. We get to leave Rams Park. We get to come to the Dome. The fan turnout was great today. We don’t have this many people come out just to see a regular practice.”znModeratorZack what do think of these reports about Bradford?Not the negative ones because I completely ignore those.
Based what I am hearing from all corners? I think he sounds like he’s shaking off rust and getting into a groove. It’s everyone, too…people notice he’s slinging it and if anything has more velocity.
August 2, 2014 at 10:22 pm in reply to: Softli replaced by Witherspoon as Rams sideline reporter #3127znModeratorI thought Softli was good as an analyst (not as a “reporter”–meaning when he would try to break news). I will miss him actually. I don’t know how good Witherspoon will be…we’ll see. I personally don’t get much from Corey Davis or Michael Young. It’s like they’re down to…Witherspoon, and if he doesn’t work, IMO it’s just their interviews there now and nothing else really.
znModeratorlook out when October comes. Bailey looked like the feature player of the offense. When I say he caught a lot of underneath routes, these weren’t the Danny Amendola 2-yard dink-and-dunks, they were downfield out routes and the like, 10-12 yard routes.
Music to my music-lovin ears.
znModeratorThank you Coach.
I have been trying to say it. This team will have an important downfield component and not just off of play action.
That’s an impression I am getting from yours and other reports.
znModeratorJL in a walking boot don’t sound good. I read something that said it was just a twist but a boot sounds more like the dreaded high ankle sprain?
I forget where I read this but I think it’s Wagoner–it’s not a HIGH ankle sprain, it’s a regular ankle sprain.
Jim Thomas @jthom1
Rams practice underway. LB James Laurinaitis not practicing. Just came out with walking boot on left foot. But it’s still a mild ankle sprain. Not a high ankle.————–
Rams Camp Report: Day 8
By Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/10128/rams-camp-report-day-8
Linebacker James Laurinaitis came out with a walking boot on his left foot after getting stepped on earlier in the week. The injury isn’t believed to be more than a mild ankle sprain, though.
znModeratorJL in a walking boot don’t sound good. I read something that said it was just a twist but a boot sounds more like the dreaded high ankle sprain?
I forget where I read this but I think it’s Wagoner–it’s not a HIGH ankle sprain, it’s a regular ankle sprain.
znModerator131-year-old Pa. bridge may move to Alabama
Associated Press
Friday, March 21, 2014
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/21/131-year-old-pa-bridge-may-move-to-alabama/
READING, Pa. (AP) – A 131-year-old eastern Pennsylvania bridge might gain a new lease on life in a warmer climate.
Berks County officials are considering a proposal to ship the Wiley’s Road Bridge in Ontelaunee Township to Alabama, The Reading Eagle reported Friday.
County commissioner Kevin Barnhardt said Alabama officials would use the truss span to provide access to a historic bridge that activists there want to save. The interest group, Workin‘ Bridges, would pay or seek funding to disassemble, transport and reassemble the span, officials said.
Barnhardt briefed the Reading Area Transportation Study on the plan on Thursday, cautioning that the proposal isn’t final and would need the approval of commissioners.
“The upside is someone would save the bridge,” he said. The downside: “You’d have to drive down to Alabama to see it.”
Township supervisors last year turned down a deal in which the county would fix the span and turn it over to the township. The county then planned to demolish the bridge. That alarmed preservation advocates who say such a rare type of truss bridge should not be destroyed, as well as bicyclists who use the span to reach Lake Ontelaunee without taking major roads.
Barnhardt said moving the bridge would keep its history intact, and the county hasn’t ruled out installing a pedestrian bridge that cyclists could use after it is removed.
Workin‘ Bridges wants the span to provide access to the 2,143-foot B.B. Comer Bridge over the Tennessee River near Scottsboro, Ala., which it is trying to preserve.
znModeratorRamsFan14
http://www.vipboxam.co/
It’s a good sports link in general (surprised it’s still up, been using it for awhile now…), but I’m thinking of getting that Time Warner Cable NFL package deal…=============
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This is the best one I’ve used http://ifirstrowus.eu
Others:
http://www.ifeed2all.eu/type/american-football.html
http://www.vipboxam.co/sports/american-football.html
http://forum.wiziwig.eu/forums/32-NFL-CFL-AFL?s=daab2da1b2600f219416ca48622e29a6
There’s so many out there but these are a few with pretty good streams most of the time.
…and my personal favourite for NFL games: aosotv.net (aka aoso.ru) It’s a small site based in Russia that only has a few streams but they tend to be high quality.
I’ve no doubt that there are other fairly new sites that I don’t know but these sites have been running in 1 form or another for several years. They are all free and do not require sign-ups or downloads.=============
Zombie SlayerYears ago I got rid of cable as I was tired of paying a high bill per month to have all of these channels I don’t watch just so I can then pay more money for Sunday ticket on top of that. Since then I have been streaming all of the sports I watch from my laptop onto my tv. I have not one time got a virus on my computer. If you have anti virus you’ll be fine. I suggest using Firefox and using Adblock, any popup add on they have and noscript. Noscript is nice because you can manually at the bottom right hand corner of the screen choose what you allow to be displayed. Just allow what is needed to view the stream and block out everything else. The first time you go to any site you’ll have to allow things but it’s not a big deal. After that first time it remembers each site you went to. As others have said the quality is not going to be as good as if you were paying but for the money you’ll be saving by not paying a cable bill and NFL ticket bill it is good. I watch nfl redzone, baseball, hockey, basketball, anything. I’m watching the World Cup game now. I have not had many times over the years where I had to switch streams. I use only these two sites below and I have not missed anything yet. First row also has streams of espn and nfl network going at all times. Also, these two sites have not been closed down since I’ve been using them and are pretty reliable.
http://www.vipboxam.co
http://ifirstrowus.eu===========
Me: I don’t know yet on these. Comments?
znModeratorOne of my very good friends who’s a Bronco fan did the “Pickem” for the entire league and has the Rams going 6-10. Normally, he’s really in touch, but I told him he’s cracked and that he’s overestimating the Seahawks and 9ers and WAAAY underestimating the Rams.
I also told him that I hoped the rest of the league felt as he did.
Several things I let him in on:
1) Aaron Donald would be the Defensive Rookie of the Year.
2) Kenny Britt and Brian Quick would have breakout years.
3) Tavon Austin is going to blow up this year.
4) Our defense is going to be a top 5 defense.
5) If we have the same kind of health we did in ’99, this team is just as capable of winning 12-13 games even with our wickedly tough schedule.If we stay healthy and execute, there are few teams in this league that can beat us, even as young as we are and we are primed to break out.
In your blind rush to optimism, here’s all the things you seem to be forgetting.
1. Sam Bradford has no arm since he hurt his knee.
2. Jeff Fisher has never been to a superbowl.
3. The Rams have no one on defense. Except Robert Quinn. But he got his Rams sack record because Favre just let him.
4. Stan Kroenke owns Walmart. And Walmart is cheap. Cheap doesn’t work in the NFL.znModeratorMatt Walker @walk1nine 2m
Always good to be at #RamsFanFest. Means the season is right around the corner
znModeratorRamBill
Jim Thomas talks Rams with Bryan Burwell on 920 AM. He starts off with an injury report. Scott Wells had some kind of virus at the end of OTA’s and lost some weight, but returned to practice on Thursday. McLeod and Matt Daniels have had some big hits recently in practice. Robinson and Donald have had some real 1 on 1 battles with each of them having good moments. He talks about the Refs visiting practice and how some rules may be enforced differently this year. He talks about Hall of Fame weekend and how over the next few years the Rams will send some new members.
znModeratorAnyone going to this?
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znModeratorDid CoachO post that ? Is he on the board now?
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vYes. He;s busy on a lot of boards (3 others than I know of), so don’t know if he will chat here a lot.
August 2, 2014 at 9:12 am in reply to: Fisher, Schottenheimer, Williams (Aug 1) – vids & transcripts #3074znModeratorWilliams is good. “Must read” good IMO.
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znModeratorhttp://theramshuddle.com/topic/video-jeff-fisher-were-going-to-be-run-oriented/
(On T Rodger Saffold leaving practice early)
“Yeah, we’re going to check him out, but the word I got is things are settling down. He’ll be alright.”August 2, 2014 at 8:23 am in reply to: Fisher, Schottenheimer, Williams (Aug 1) – vids & transcripts #3069znModeratorFISHER
SCHOTTENHEIMER
WILLIAMS
–Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – August 1, 2014
(On what he hopes to get of the scrimmage and set up for tomorrow)
“First off, it’s an experience with fans. It’s an opportunity for them to come down, go inside watch practice,
get close, enjoy the two or three hours of the stuff we have to set up. From a football standpoint, it’s another practice. We’re going to do some live work. We’re in full pads. We’ll finish with, I don’t want to say rookies, but there will be some other younger players in a live tackling scrimmage. But for the most part, we’re continuing with our installation. We’re doing a lot of drills, the two minute, one–on-ones all kinds of different drills out there. Those who haven’t been able to come to the training camp get to see what we do at training camp, we just happen to be moving indoors.”(On if he uses this scrimmage to do an introductory of what a game day is like)
“No, but it is good for the young guys that haven’t been there-the draft class and we have players that have not played there before. So it’s good to find out where your locker is and how you come in and off the field and where we warm up and do those kinds of things instead of have it be a first time experience for them next weekend.”(On how the running game looks right now and how much he is going to rely on it)
“Well we’re going to be a runaway football team. But, it’s hard to gage where it is right now. We’ll have a better idea once we get into preseason. We’re getting all kinds of different looks out of our defense, there’s times there’s spaces, there’s times their not. You practice in pads, but they have in their mind protect each other. And so you’re not finishing, you’re not cutting on the backside, you’re not doing those kinds of things, so we’ll have a better idea in a couple weeks.”(On how CB Brandon McGee has been so far in training camp)
“Well he’s playing outside at corner. He’s getting some nickel shots and of course he picked up where he’s left off on ‘teams.’ Battling through a little sore ankle which was good to see him come back today and he’s got a good chance to play quite a bit this preseason.”(On T Rodger Saffold leaving practice early)
“Yeah, we’re going to check him out, but the word I got is things are settling down. He’ll be alright.”Rams Offensive Coordinator Brian Schottenheimer – August 1, 2014
(On how the offense has progressed since OTAs)
“Doing great, really, really excited. You can see they came back ready to work. You can see they came back they knew what we were trying to get done. The retentions have been great. We’re playing fast. So all in all, so far so good, doing well.”(On if about half of the offense has been installed)
“Yeah probably. Yeah a little bit more than that maybe, but for us again, it’s a review we talk about that all the time. We kind of review by day, but everything’s in when we get to these move periods and stuff. Everything’s kind of in and the guys have done a good job all across the board.”(On how QB Sam Bradford has performed so far)
“Looks good, looks really good. Throwing the ball well, had some great throws today. That shouldn’t surprise anybody, obviously he’s a very talented, gifted passer. Thrilled he’s ahead of schedule, feels great, looks great, so I’m excited about it.”(On what facing the Rams defense does for the offense especially
when it’s the 1s vs. the 1s)
“Well, again obviously they give us a lot of trouble just in terms of the multiple looks they’re going to give us. They’ve got a lot of things that you have to prepare for, which is good and we troubleshoot our protections and stuff. Certainly it’s good work across the board. We feel great with where we are and it’s fun to compete against those guys.”(On what to expect out of the running game this season)
“The running game looks good. Obviously that’s the way we’re built. We’ve always been built that way. Last year, earlier in the year some things got away from us but the shift to the running game is nothing new. That’s what we’re going to be based on—play great defense, run the football, our play-action game comes off of that. Running game looks good. Got a really good young stable of backs. I don’t think I’ve ever been around a group of three, four, five guys with this much ability. So the competition, across the board at every spot, but certainly that’s one that jumps out at you.”(On how RB Tre Mason looks)
“He’s doing a really good job. Most importantly, mentally he’s done a great job, picking it up. We ask a lot of our backs in protection, in some of things we do even in the passing game. Done a really good job. Coming from a situation where he didn’t do a lot of that in college, he’s done a great job.”(On how it is to see the first string offensive together for some reps and the movement of players amongst the positions on the line)
“Sure. Well, that’s the big thing. We’re going to move guys around. Again, we’re trying to create competition, putting (OL) Greg (Robinson) in different spots, (OL) Rodger (Saffold) in different spots. But, it was nice to look out there today and see those five guys. They’ve been working hard. The communication now is so much easier for them. We make adjustments, they make adjustments, make calls. That just comes from playing together and Greg’s done a good job of picking it up. He gets some help in there between (OT) Jake (Long) and (C) Scott (Wells) from time to time. He’s done a nice job picking it up.”(On Robinson playing between Jake Long and Scott Wells)
“As long as he can listen, he’ll be in good shape.”(On if Robinson is a good listener)
“He is a good listener, yes he is. If they told him to jump offsides he’d probably jump offsides.”(On if the older guys told Robinson to jump offsides Friday)
“Yeah, he did that today. Maybe they did, maybe we’ll grade those other guys down. He’s doing a really good job. You’ve seen him grow the last couple practices. It’s tough, especially again, we’re talking about with some of the looks we’re going to see from the defense each and every day but he’s done a really good job for us.”(On if he’s looking for anything in particular at FanFest)
“No, I don’t think so. Again, I always like to see the live scrimmage at the end. Again, I don’t know how many of the vets will get that. It’s usually a lot of the younger guys. We just want to keep building. We’ve put three really good practices, today, our last couple days together, so build on that. Again, we’re just kind of going through the building blocks of what we can be. We’re a way bigger team on the perimeter. That helps, gives Sam some big targets. We’re extremely fast, and you’re seeing the ball pushed down the field. Guys are making plays, so continue to do that. Again the scrimmage, it’ll be fun to see these guys play real football.”(On if WR Kenny Britt is helping WR Brian Quick’s progress)
“Yeah, well I think Brian Quick’s probably had the best spring and training camp of any of the receivers. I think Brian Quick is playing his tail off right now, but yes, you put Kenny in there and Kenny’s obviously got the experience, got the size. But again, just the thing about Kenny is he brings his energy every day and that helps the group. We got guys that love to play and compete. When you get (WR) Sted (Stedman Bailey) and (WR) Tave (Tavon Austin) and (WR) Quickie (Brian Quick), Kenny in the huddle with (TE Jared) Cook and those guys, it’s fun. There’s a lot of energy. They have a lot of passion for the game. It’s been fun to watch those guys kind of get excited for the other guy when they make the play.”(On if Britt has calmed down)
“He has not, no I don’t think so. He loves football and I think his abs look a little bit better. I think so and he’s got that shirt, the half shirt that he likes to wear out here, but he’s doing a good job. He’s showing off.”(On TE Jared Cook’s consistency)
“Well, last year I think the biggest thing with him is he had a few drops. This year, playing really fast. Just creating separation, playing physical. You even notice it in the running game. He’s getting up underneath people, he’s driving, driving his feet, getting movement. Again having a good camp, but again if he catches a few more balls last year, again I think he’s not going to be satisfied but he would’ve felt better about the year. But again a guy we expect to have a huge year for us.”Rams Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams – August 1, 2014R
(On how the defense has progressed)
“They’ve taken another step, and the reason they’ve taken another step is because the verbiage and the language is starting to become a little bit more memory based. They have some familiarity there. It’s been fun to see them come back in really good shape, and it’s fun to see them adapt to (Head Coach) Jeff’s (Fisher) schedules. Jeff’s done a really good job of setting the schedule for recovery, setting the schedule for a lot of reps. Now we’re getting a lot more reps than we got in OTAs because we were under such time constraints and everything that you have to do in the offseason. We’ve taken some steps. It’s still a process, and they’ve done a very good job.”(On how far along his knowledge is regarding the best way to use his personnel)
“Improving, but it’s not there yet. It’s improving. One of the things, in the spring, I let the assistant coaches set all the depth charts. Obviously they set them the way I like them to set. I let them. I didn’t have any discussion with them. But as soon as we got back here, I spent the entire time, while all the players were away, I was here every day. I was here Saturday, Sunday, Fourth of July, going back through and getting ahead of a lot of things. Watching films and studying people that I don’t have time to study once the season starts. But the big thing, I went back and re-watched every single practice, every single drill. I’m a lot more familiar with these guys, but until the pads came on, that was the next step. And until we play a preseason game, that’ll be the next step. It’s ever changing. It’s moving on, but I’m getting a lot more familiar with them.”(On if he missed the fireworks on the Fourth of July)
“I didn’t even watch any fireworks. How about that? I was hanging out here, and the week right before we started camp I went back to my little hometown and had a great week with my foundation for kids. We had record attendance and we set record profits. It was a good week, so I had to come back to camp to rest.”(On how long his foundation has been doing their golf tournament)
“It was the 10 year anniversary of it. We went over $1 million given back to those kids a few years ago, but we’re on record pace to give them the second million a lot faster than we did the first million. It was really good. It’s always going to be my hometown, and I’m a sucker for kids. I’ve always been a sucker for kids. There are people in that hometown that took up for me and helped me a lot of the ways and mentored me. It’s important to go back and give back. I love the fact that I’ve had the opportunity to give back a lot here in St. Louis. I’ve spoken a lot here locally to a lot of different groups and stuff and gotten out and met a lot of people here. But I can’t tell you – and again, it’s not something I’m just saying just to appease people – I’m happy as all get out to be back in Missouri. I’m happy to be here, familiar in the Midwest and everything. The fact that I’m that close to the kids that are in Excelsior Springs helps me a lot, but the kids here, too. It’s been a good summer.”(On the reception he receives when he speaks publically)
“It’s been very good, very well received. They’ve known of me a lot of different ways, a lot of different times. It’s fun to see a lot of my old high school coaches, a lot of the guys that I coached against and with in high school. I’ve had my college coaches, they were down here a few days ago. It’s been a big reunion for me to get around all these people that I’ve been around when I was growing up. The fact that they get a chance to come in here and see how they do things here with a young team, there’s a lot of similarities going on here. They’ve enjoyed that process and they’ve enjoyed the fact that we’ve gotten back together again.”(On if the Rams are expecting him to ‘work some magic’ with the defense)
“I tell the players all the time, and I’ll tell you guys: there’s not going to be any magic dust. There’s not going to be any Lebron James magic dust. That’s not going to happen. What’s going to happen is these players are going to play aggressively. They’re playing for somebody and with somebody that’s on the same page as them. Nobody’s going to hold them back. We’re going to go and we’re going to play aggressive. If you want to make sure that you always have a fail-safe excuse about making a mistake, make it aggressively. That’s been the fun part of seeing them all of the sudden be so robotic. They’re a talented group of players, but I want them to play instinctively. I want the coaches to coach instinctively. Jeff’s allowing that to happen, and I’m happy that he’s allowing that to happen because that’s the way I’ve always been.”(On if the personnel he has here will allow him to be creative)
“A lot more freedom with the respect of doing the same attacking things with less people. When I say that, all the stops I’ve had on the way, I’ve never been afraid to bring lots of people, but we can still do some of the same things and bring less people. Our secondary is doing a really good job, taking the next step, growing with the ways we want to have them play. And with this front, this is the best front I’ve had a chance to be a part of. Not only the first front, it’s the second front. Not only the second front, it’s the third front. They’re coached by who I think is one of the best d-line coaches in the league, and I’ve been blessed to have a lot of really good d-line coaches. Here again, they grasp the game the way Mike Waufle wants it done. That’s also a big part of taking the next step, Mike Waufle and I getting on the same page. He has and we have.”(On what he wants to see in the scrimmage Saturday)
“We’re on an installation phase. (Offensive Coordinator) Brian Schottenheimer and I are hooked up together, working together on Day 1, Day 2, Day 3 and taking the step to make sure that we’re getting the things installed that we have to have in at the first part of the season, for the first month of the season. Making sure we have all those things done. We’re not really worrying about any scouting reports or any of those things. We’re just trying to take the next step of getting everything done now so it’s familiar under stress when the season starts.”(On what advice he gives young players who are fighting for roster spots)
“We are young. That’s fantastic. We’re going to pick the 53 best players. The 53 best players when we start the season are who we’re going to march with. This is a production-based business, and it’s a great game, but it’s a production business. The people who are out here giving us a chance to produce at a higher level, we’re challenged in the NFC West. We’re challenged in every single game in the National Football League. There are no homecoming games. Everybody, every game is a tough game, but in our division, it’s a tough division. So the fact that these young guys, they’re all young really on our side of the ball, and really the whole team, the 53 best guys will get a shot to go into war when we start the season.”(On DT Michael Brockers)
“I think he’s got a lot of growth. I don’t know if you guys have seen how lean he is since he’s come back. It’s amazing how much faster, quicker, how much he hasn’t lost any power at all. He’s leaner. He has tremendous growth. I think he’s just scratched the surface. He has really, really picked up the way Mike Waufle wants things done and as it grows with the way I want things done. I think you’re going to see another step in him. I really do. I’m excited about him.”(On how the young secondary is progressing)
“They’re taking the next step. Again, in the practice settings right now, we haven’t seen the live bullets. We’re doing a lot of things from protection mannerisms and they’re having to do the daily installation so there’s not a lot of freedom for them to play like they’re going to play in a game setting. So the next step for them is playing in a preseason game so now we can see them adapt and improvise and use the tools that we’ve provided them. When we get ready to start each day, we give them a set group of parameters that we want them to use that day so they get on film so they’re starting to build confidence and we’re starting to teach them. They’re taking the right steps and they’ve done a lot of really, really good things. But until we get into the live competition so that we can see them handle the heat of a real game and see that they can tackle in space, that’s going to be the next step.”August 2, 2014 at 2:06 am in reply to: JT/Wagoner tweets from practice + Wagoner article on practice, 07/31 #3067znModeratorincluding a TD from Bradford to Bailey early on.
This seems to have a nice ring
Here’s to you saying that a lot this season.
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