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August 10, 2015 at 10:25 am in reply to: interview vids: Cook Kendricks Donald Quinn Brown Hayes McCleod Long Tru Sted #28456
znModeratorOne-On-One with Stedman Bailey
Watch reporter Dani Klupenger interview wide receiver Stedman Bailey after Sunday’s Training Camp workout.
Apparently Bailey works some with Cris Carter, who is sort of his mentor.
August 10, 2015 at 10:23 am in reply to: interview vids: Cook Kendricks Donald Quinn Brown Hayes McCleod Long Tru Sted #28455znModeratorOne-On-One with Stedman Bailey
Watch reporter Dani Klupenger interview wide receiver Stedman Bailey after Sunday’s Training Camp workout.
znModeratorSo far camp observers see good things out of Roberson. So there’s depth there.
People have to remember that Gaines went low in the draft in the first place because he was banged up a lot.
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http://edraft.com/nfl/news/2014-nfl-draft-ej-gaines-scouting-report/
Health: A bunch of setbacks have occured to E.J. Gaines when he played in college. It’s not like it was one main injury, but a plethora of injuries took a toll on how many snaps Gaines played in at Missouri. Gaines had a lingering hip problem in his senior season that affected how he turned his hips in pass coverage.
August 10, 2015 at 9:52 am in reply to: watching pre-season games+ replay times (read whole thread for all options) #28453znModeratorReplay times for the Raiders P-S game:
Rams vs Raiders on NFL channel
8/15 1:00 am est
8/18 12:00 am est
8/21 5:30 am estznModeratorPeter King – 8/10/15
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/08/09/andrew-luck-indianapolis-colts-nfl-frank-gifford-hard-knocks
Frank Gifford: 1930-2015.
Two things I hope Frank Gifford is not remembered for:
As a football player, being KO’d by Eagles middle linebacker Chuck Bednarik in 1960 on one of the most brutal hits in NFL history. Bednarik, in an unforgettable photo, exhilarates in the hit, and Gifford missed all of 1961 with the effects of a concussion and a broken neck vertebra.
As a broadcaster, for Howard Cosell, his “Monday Night Football” partner, calling Gifford “the human mannequin.”
A few things you need to know about Gifford, an athletic, make-’em-miss all-purpose player from USC: He made the Pro Bowl as a defensive back, wide receiver and running back. And he threw 14 touchdown passes in his Giants’ career. He was the NFL’s MVP in 1956, when he led the Giants to a 47-7 rout of the Bears in the NFL Championship Game. “We were an insignificant franchise when we drafted him [in 1952],” Giants president John Mara said Sunday. “By the time he retired, in 1964, we were the toast of the town. It was mostly because of him.
He was the face of our franchise. During my youth, I wanted to be like Frank. All of my friends did. He was an icon in New York, a matinee idol.” Gifford’s total of 5,434 receiving yards was a franchise record for 38 years, until Amani Toomer broke it after the turn of the century. Gay Talese, the noted writer, tailed Gifford for a long story in 1956 and wrote he had “a quality of mind that makes him rare for football players.” He wasn’t quite Joe Namath in taking New York by storm, but very close.
Now for the TV side … Football players nimbly traverse the field-to-studio gigs today, dozens a year, seemingly. But they just didn’t do TV in the ’50s and early ’60s, until Gifford did TV. He started on the CBS station in New York while he was still playing, then transitioned to the Monday night booth in 1971. He won an Emmy for his TV work in 1977, and did Olympic TV work and guest-hosted “Good Morning America.”
“He was the guy who set the trend for players working in TV,” said Mara.
Al Michaels worked the football booth with Gifford for 256 games. “No matter how crazy it ever got,” Michaels said Sunday, “Frank was the coolest guy in the room. He was the sea of tranquility. I never saw Frank get upset; that was the amazing thing about him. Even when Howard referred to him as ‘the human mannequin,’ I never saw Frank direct any animus at him. But in football, if you lived in New York, you know how big he made the game—he was Mickey Mantle.”
Few players in any sport have ever been as close to ownership—and ownership’s family—as Gifford was with the Maras. When he retired, he used to drive to Giants games on Sunday with Ann Mara, wife of owner Wellington Mara, and sit in the family box. When Gifford was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1977, Wellington Mara introduced him. When Mara made it 20 years later, Gifford was his presenter.
“He was family,” John Mara said Sunday night. “This one hit me like a thunderbolt.”
znModeratorPeter King – 8/10/15
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/08/09/andrew-luck-indianapolis-colts-nfl-frank-gifford-hard-knocks
Last one out of Santa Clara, turn off the lights.
Lost by the Niners since the end of the 2014 season:
• Jim Harbaugh, the coach who won 49 games in his four San Francisco seasons.
• On offense: a starting running back (Frank Gore) and wideout (Michael Crabtree) and two-fifths of the starting offensive line.
• On defense, it’s an absolute plague: both starting defensive ends (Ray McDonald, Justin Smith), both starting cornerbacks (Perrish Cox, Chris Culliver), and three invaluable linebackers (Patrick Willis, Aldon Smith, Chris Borland).
The 49ers did the right thing, releasing Aldon Smith after his fifth arrest, and coach Jim Tomsula was deep in individual conversations with scores of players Friday and Saturday after it happened. That’s good. Kumbaya is good. But let’s be real. No team has lost so many franchise players in such a short period and continued to win. Gore, Justin Smith, Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis … franchise guys. A top head coach, gone. We’ve been over this often this off-season, but Tomsula is stepping into one of the toughest spots a rookie coach has ever been in.
And if I’m Aldon Smith—knowing I’m likely to get suspended for part of this season anyway—I am in no hurry to pick a next team. He’s got to fix his life, or try to, before focusing on football.
August 10, 2015 at 1:58 am in reply to: Jeff Fisher Gives Rams Camp Update – Videos + article #28441znModeratorOne week in, Fisher likes what he sees
By Jim Thomas
With a week of training camp under their belts and the Lindenwood scrimmage come and gone, the focus shifts and the intensity ratchets up for the Rams this coming week.
“It’s a week already?” said linebacker James Laurinaitis. “You just lose track of days. I don’t even know what day it is anymore.”
Beginning with Friday’s preseason opener in Oakland, the Rams have a game every week — with the exception of their bye in mid-October — for the next 21 weeks. The team departs Thursday for the West Coast and will be gone for a week, following up the Raiders’ exhibition opener with three days of practice in the Los Angeles area — including two days of sessions with the Dallas Cowboys.
So far, so good says coach Jeff Fisher.
“We haven’t played anybody else yet, and I’m not going to put a lot of stake in the first preseason game, but I’m pleased with where we are,” Fisher said.
In particular, Fisher said he was pleased with the decline in practice penalties compared to last year in camp.
“That’s a point of emphasis for us,” Fisher said. “We’re not having the false-start things — the frequency of them that we’ve had over the years. And then, just the discipline things down the field with the contact, and the holding, and the hands to the face. All those things that we emphasize. So that’s encouraging for me.”
Fisher made those comments prior to Friday’s work at Lindenwood, and perhaps he spoke too soon. The Rams brought in some college referees to work the Lindenwood session, and gave them plenty of reason to throw their flags Friday.
There were numerous false starts and offsides penalties, and overall it was a sloppy practice before a crowd estimated at 4,000. There were also lots of dropped passes, many more than have been seen on the practice fields earlier in camp at Rams Park.
After couple of the drops, and what was generally sputtering work by the offense, a “boo” or two could be heard from the fans at Harlen C. Hunter Stadium, home of Lindenwood’s NCAA Division II Lions.
Fisher, in a good mood to begin with Friday after the contract extension for quarterback Nick Foles, gave the Rams an “E” for effort at Lindenwood.
“I just saw a lot of hard work, a lot of focus, a lot of concentration,” he said. “We executed well, protected each other. Didn’t have any physical issues out there. We just practiced hard, and it was a good night.
“It was great to have the fans. It was a really good group of people that were out, and I’d like to think they saw some good things.”
As usual, Foles saw lots of things from the Rams’ defense. Perhaps spurred on by the stadium setting and extra fans, the defense — particularly the pass rush — looked even more menacing than usual.
Obviously, full contact with the quarterback isn’t allowed in practice, but Foles has gotten plenty of work operating with hands in his face, defenders coming at him and the pocket collapsing.
That’s a byproduct not only of the talent on the defensive front, but also the blitzing schemes of defensive coordinator Gregg Williams — schemes which are worked on with, uh, regularity on the practice field.
Foles has no complaints.
“It’s awesome,” he said. “It’s great for a quarterback. It’s great for our offense to go against pressure like that. As a quarterback, your eyes have to really see what’s going on. You have to recognize it.
“It’s a lot of different looks. It’s great for me. It’s great for our young O-line, and great for our receivers for their route-running. We’re helping them out, they’re helping us out, and that’s what you want. We’re sharpening each other up.”
That young O-line Foles referred to saw a lot of defensive tackle Aaron Donald on Friday, usually running by them into the backfield. The NFL’s defensive rookie of the year was a blur, be it stuffing running plays or harassing Foles.
“I’m just trying to do my job, you know,” Donald said, almost with a shrug. “Trying to work together. We’re out there getting each other better.”
The troubles with the defensive front notwithstanding, Fisher likes what he’s seen from the team’s young blockers so far in camp.
“You can look at our right tackle (Rob Havenstein) and right guard (Jamon Brown) right now, and they look like they’ve been here for a while, and that’s good,” Fisher said. “That’s good to have that feeling inside that you have confidence in both Rob and JB that they can line up and play. And it shows with the pads on.”
With the exception of cornerback E.J. Gaines, who may have a plantar fascia (foot) issue, the Rams are in good shape injury-wise so far. They’re a little light at the moment at corner because Brandon McGee is sidelined again with a foot injury that plagued him during the OTAs in June. But it could be a lot worse.
Foles is getting the playbook down as the Rams go through their second installation of the offense; the first came during OTAs. And to anyone watching the Lindenwood practice, it is clear that Foles is quickly developing a rapport with tight end Jared Cook. He looks his way often.
“He’s making me look good out there with the catches that he’s making,” Foles said. “He has a great feel when he’s running routes. He’s got a big catch radius. He’s a guy that we’re gonna have to get the ball to, but we’re gonna spread the ball around.
“We have a lot of playmakers on offense, and the guys are doing a really great job. We’re still getting comfortable. We’re still bonding, so that’s what camp’s about.”
znModeratorSo no possible 1st round lineman the Rams could have conceivably taken is presently looking as good as Brown is.
znModeratorRamsCamp Lindenwood Highlights
Watch the best highlights from the Rams scrimmage at Lindenwood.
znModeratorPractice Report 8/9: Offensive Progress
By Austin Lankford
The Rams took the field on Sunday in what was probably the hottest day of training camp so far, but head coach Jeff Fisher was happy with the way his team responded.
“They pushed right through it, which is impressive,” Fisher said. “We didn’t have to mention a thing and they pushed themselves through it and I was really impressed. They knew that we had to get through today and tomorrow, which are big days for us because then we start to taper off as we get closer to the preseason.”
Frank Cignetti also addressed media on Sunday for the first time since training camp opened and is pleased with the progress.
“We have a great staff and they do a great job teaching,” the first-year offensive coordinator said. “The players are doing an awesome job preparing and they’re bringing it out on the field. We’re getting great effort, we’re getting good execution, and every day you can see that we’re making progress.”
Cignetti also stated the offense is on its third time installing the playbook, and as the preseason nears, the players are becoming more comfortable. He specifically mentioned Nick Foles’ strong grasp of the offense to this point.
“He has adapted well and you can see it every day out here,” Cignetti said. “Every time he gets another rep at a concept, he sees it better and he’s more decisive in his decision making process. Every day we are pleased with the progress we are seeing with Nick.”
Both Fisher and Cignetti are also glad to have Case Keenum back in a Rams uniform with the potential of winning the back-up role behind Foles.
“What we like about Case is the game isn’t too fast for him,” Cignetti said. “He processes information very well, he’s smart, he’s a rhythmic passer, and he’s very accurate. We ask our quarterbacks to run the offense and keep us out of a bad play and he can come to the line of scrimmage and recognize the defense right now and make the proper adjustments.”
Keenum’s transition back to St. Louis has been smooth because the offense hasn’t altered too much from last year when Brian Schottenheimer was coordinating the unit.
“The foundation was in place when coach Schottenheimer put an offense in here for three years,” Cignetti said. “We tweaked it a little bit, but the foundation of the terminology and the core concepts were in place, so there is a lot of carry over.”
Fisher said the Rams wanted Keenum back from the Texans after he was signed off St. Louis’ practice squad last year, but didn’t know what Houston’s situation would be.
“So we decided that the best way to get Case back would be to offer them a future pick,” Fisher said. “He’s productive and he understands the offense in his second year in it. He’s further ahead than he was last year, he can make all the throws, and he’s got that enthusiasm and the ‘it’ factor in the huddle.”
With Cignetti nearing the end of his first full training camp as an OC he said he isn’t shocked at the progress the team has made.
“I’m not surprised at all because I think we have a great group of coaches and players who are committed to being the best they can be and every day,” Cignetti said. “We see our guys come out here and give great effort and execute.”
Fisher also likes the state of the offense heading into the first preseason game in Oakland, once again noting his confidence in his young offensive linemen.
“Jamon Brown and Rob Havenstein are coming on, and Andrew [Donnal] is coming along,” Fisher said. “I’d like to get Cody [Wichmann] back out there and Demetrius [Rhaney] missed a lot of time last year due to injury so it’s been great for him too. We will wait and see how we fair against the Raiders and Cowboys in practice, but there’s no reason for me to think that they can’t line up and play.”
Fisher did say that one of the growing pains with young offensive linemen is learning to effectively communicate in the heat of a game.
“It’s the lack of reps and the lack of experience because if there’s a communication issue up front and you cut somebody loose, that’s a free run on your quarterback,” Fisher said. “So we have to make sure that doesn’t happen and at this point, they are getting their reps.”
SIGNING FORTSON
The Rams added defensive tackle Marcus Fortson to the roster late last week and he completed his first practice on Sunday. Fortson played in college at Miami and has been out of football since last August, although he did participate in this year’s veteran combine. He said he got the call from the Rams on Thursday and arrived in St. Louis that evening.
“I woke up Friday morning and had a full day of physicals, worked out and then signed,” Fortson said. “It was a major blessing, man.”
Fortson went undrafted in 2012 and was picked up by the Patriots where he spent time on both the practice squad and active roster.
“It’s all up to me at the end of the day,” Fortson said. “If I do what I need to do and work hard and put out good film, I should be good.”
DONALD’S ENCORE
Fisher said on Sunday that the 2014 Defensive Rookie of the Year is looking for a strong second season.
“He has worked very hard the entire offseason,” Fisher said. “He started this offseason on a mission and he’s in great shape. He knows that every snap he has a chance to win and he’s motivated by that. He’s going to be good for us and very hard to block this year.”
BRUCE VISITS CAMP
Hall of Fame wide receiver and Rams legend Isaac Bruce was present for Sunday’s practice.
“His career speaks for itself we have a lot of respect for the former players, whether they have played a year or ten years or a potential Hall of Famer,” Fisher said. “We just want to make sure they’re welcome here and you’ve seen a number of them through the years. The doors are open to any former player who wants to come out to practice or come in the building and say hello. We welcome them.”
BROCKERS’ BABY
Defensive tackle Michael Brockers was absent for Sunday’s practice, but for a very good reason. His wife gave birth to a baby girl.
August 9, 2015 at 11:18 pm in reply to: What Waco biker shootout suggests about race in America #28432znModerator.
.Published on Jun 3, 2015
Stephen Stubbs (aka “Bowtie”), with permission from biker eye witnesses, releases details of the Twin Peaks Waco incident from May 17, 2015. Until now, the police don’t even know much of this information.The meeting at Twin Peaks was an organized political meeting, through the Texas Confederation of Clubs, that was planned 2 months earlier.
Witness in the Cossacks inner circle claims that a police officer infiltrated the Cossacks Motorcycle club (named “Voodoo”) and that Voodoo was the driving voice in favor of the Cossacks going to Twin Peaks for a “show of force”.
Witnesses claim that 50+ Cossacks attacked 7 Bandidos as the Bandidos were trying to park their motorcycles. This was after a Scimitar stepped in front of the Bandidos’s motorcycles and told them that they weren’t allowed to park close to the Cossack’s motorcycles. Words were exchanged and the incident escalated when the Cossacks surrounded and attacked.
Witnesses claim that the Cossacks brandished guns as they attacked the Bandidos, while the Bandidos were still on their bikes.
Witnesses claim that the 1st shot was a Cossack firing a round into a Bandido’s shoulder while the Bandidos are still on their bikes. A second shot was a Cossack firing from close to the Twin Peaks Patio. Then, the police came in and were shooting hundreds of rounds (if not over 1,000) into the crowd with the restaurant as a backdrop.
Most likely, at least 8 of the 9 killed were killed by police. One of them was an innocent bystander named Jesus Rodriquez (aka “Mokawk). Mohawk was a decorated Vietnam Veteran with no criminal record that simply showed up to an organized political meeting.
znModeratorCodeMonkey
My random observations:It seemed a much more serious tone today.
There was a lot of work on the run game. Pead got a lot of reps and looked good.
I can’t get over Battle. He is huge. Playing on the second team at LT, one has to wonder how long and where before this guy cracks the starting line up. He sure looks the part. Havenstenstein looks fantastic too. I’ll just say I’m excited by what I see in both guys.
Where was Givens? He got a ton of playing time in the first practices but was almost unseen today. Maybe he was getting an autograph from Reverend Ike? We never saw Bruce. Damian Williams, Tyler Slavin, Isiah Ferguson and even Daniel Rodriguez got more work at WR. Coach likes Williams, who is actually a 6 year pro, to potentially take that last WR spot. Whoever gets it, Givens is on the bubble is the general feeling.
Rodriquez worked as the kick returner. Didn’t see anybody else catch kicks today.
Tavon Austin was wearing number 1 today. He dances too much. He runs ten miles but doesn’t gain a yard. That stuff doesn’t work in the NFL very often.
The defense was not blitzing like crazy today. And, I didn’t hear coach Williams yelling. Maybe Fish told him to lay off a little.
I was on the lookout for Jacob Hagen, number 43, for our our newest member @tinman1. He took part in special teams and some plays at safety in 11 on 11. No spectacular plays but he hustles. I read where he won the rookie “take the ball” contest. Apparently he has huge hands.
Zack Laskey did line up in the FB spot a few times but he is sure not the kind of body I picture as a traditional FB. Too Small. I suppose that sort of football has fallen by the wayside but I do not understand it…especially when you have an “impose your will” kind of team. Why not get a big trucking bruiser to run block for your Ferrari? The FB position is a relic for some reason.
Funny note: There was a guy in the audience yelling “get low and stick ’em!”. This guy has was impossible to ignore and, according to Coach, has been kicked out of practice before by Spags. Coach put the over/under at 25 times he would yell his favorite phrase and that was about the right line. I counted close to 20.
znModeratorIsaac Bruce, Jackie Joyner-Kersee make for star-studded Rams practice
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — St. Louis sports royalty attended Sunday’s Rams practice.
Legendary Rams receiver Isaac Bruce and legendary track star Jackie Joyner-Kersee watched the Rams go through their paces for the two-plus hour workout in what was easily the hottest day of camp so far.
Bruce and Joyner-Kersee, who is from East St. Louis, Ill., �do some work for Mercy Sports Medicine and stopped by to watch the Sunday session. It was the first practice Joyner-Kersee has attended since the team moved to St. Louis in 1995.
Rams coach Jeff Fisher has long been a proponent of welcoming former players and coaches back to the building and, of course, had no problems with Joyner-Kersee coming by too.
“[Bruce’s] career speaks for itself and when we came in, the respect factor that we have for the former players whether they played one year or played 10 years or potential Hall of Famers,” Fisher said. “We want to make sure that they’re welcome. So you see a number of them over the years. … The door is open to everybody. Any former player that wants to come out to practice or come in the building and say hi, we welcome them.”
Bruce, who maintains his regular home in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., is spending his days running a gym he opened there as well as helping coach the Dillard High football team in his spare time.
— Defensive tackle Michael Brockers did not participate in the practice but missed for the best of reasons: He became the father to a baby girl.
— Among those sitting out the team portion of practice Sunday afternoon were running backs Tre Mason (hamstring) and Todd Gurley (knee), cornerbacks Brandon McGee (foot) and E.J. Gaines (foot), guard Cody Wichmann (calf), linebacker Korey Toomer (ankle), end Chris Long, defensive tackle Doug Worthington and safety Maurice Alexander. Tight end Brad Smelley also departed practice early for what appeared to be a hand injury.
— With no Mason and no Gurley, Benny Cunningham continues to get a lot of work with the first-team offense. Cunningham looks quick, decisive and completely comfortable in the confines of the offense. The Rams clearly will be a better team with Gurley and/or Mason but they have to feel like Cunningham is a really solid option as the No. 3 back and not just on third down.
— Former Chicago Bears general manager Phil Emery also attended Sunday’s practice.
— The rotation at center started back at the top with Tim Barnes. As expected, offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti made it clear the Rams would like to see their centers in game settings before settling on a starter.
— Coordinator Gregg Williams had his charges working hard early and often, including a round of up/downs early in practice. Had to be tough given the 70 percent humidity and a heat index nearing triple digits.
— The Rams continued to have some issues with pre-snap penalties. It’s an area Fisher said is a point of emphasis but in the two practices since he mentioned how much better it had been in camp, it’s taken a turn for the worse.
— Some highlights from the practice: Quarterback Austin Davis connected with receiver Brian Quick for a long gain down the right sideline during team drills. … Undrafted cornerback Imoan Claiborne, who missed Saturday’s special teams practice, returned with a couple of interceptions in a three-play span. … Receiver Damian Williams made a nice touchdown catch over cornerback Marcus Roberson in the corner of the end zone during one-on-ones. The catch drew Bruce’s approval.
— The Rams are back at it Monday with practice set for 4:30 p.m. ET. It is the penultimate open practice for fans in St. Louis in this training camp.
znModeratorHere is a team publicist (?) asked about the center position
Wagoner left that job a couple of years ago. He no longer works for the Rams. He works for ESPN. He’s a colleague of Sando’s now.
I don’t know what effect that has on your overall point, but I thought I would just clear that one bit up.
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znModeratorRams mailbag: Talking wide receivers
Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20173/rams-mailbag-talking-wide-receivers
EARTH CITY, Mo. — In Saturday’s mailbag, we got a chance to offer some early impressions from training camp with an emphasis on, you guessed it, the offensive line.
Today, we turn our attention to the wide receivers.
Sean Mack @MackSW
What do you expect the WR hierarchy to be this year?@nwagoner: First, I’m a big fan of the use of the word hierarchy instead of simply asking how the depth chart would shake out. So kudos on that. Right now, it looks like it’s going to be quite similar to last season. Assuming Brian Quick continues on his path to recovery, he’ll be one of the starters opposite Kenny Britt. The Rams like having the two bigger guys on the outside not only for pass-catching purposes, but also as run blockers. From there, the slot position is an interesting one. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Rams sprinkle Stedman Bailey into the slot more with Tavon Austin operating as a sort of movable piece capable of playing inside or outside. I still expect Quick and Britt to get the most reps followed probably by Austin and Bailey.
Edward Henderson @dapipeftr
Previously I asked if any FA Wr’s standing out in practice. Since, what can you report now that turning heads?
@nwagoner: I don’t think I’d go as far as to say any are really standing out. Bradley Marquez was a guy that did some really good things in the spring and caught some eyes but he hasn’t done a whole lot in training camp. He did have some good moments in recent days but I wouldn’t say he’s been a “standout” necessarily. Daniel Rodriguez has been fun to watch with his ability to catch punts behind his back and with other footballs in his hands but that’s obviously not something that’s going to put him closer to a roster spot. The others, guys such as Tyler Slavin and Isaiah Ferguson, have been mostly nondescript, though Ferguson has flashed every once in a while. I don’t see anyone who looks poised to take Chris Givens’ spot right now, though that could change as we get into the preseason slate.
Blayze1 @jblayze611
Do you think any team will you give Aldon Smith another shot@nwagoner: It’s awfully hard to answer right now since we don’t know the extent of Aldon Smith’s latest run-in with the law and what the subsequent punishments will be in a court of law or from the NFL. Recently, the Jaguars came out and said receiver Justin Blackmon probably won’t play again. Of course, Blackmon didn’t have the resume of Smith in the NFL, but he did have the draft position. Really, it’s up to Smith on how he handles himself moving forward to determine his future. As a human being and, to a far lesser degree, a Mizzou alum, I hope he can figure it out even if he never plays another down.
Justin @Jutt7777Justin
Who’s ahead in the center battle right? Your opinion.
@nwagoner: This question is almost as difficult to answer as the previous one. The Rams haven’t tipped their hand, as Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones and Demetrius Rhaney continue to rotate. To my eyes, Rhaney looks like he has the most upside as a pure blocker but I’m not sure he’ll be comfortable enough handling all of the checks and things a center must do to be ready to start this season. So I’m going to continue to give the slightest of edges to Jones at this point. As I’ve maintained all along, though, there’s not an outcome that would surprise me in this contest.
Gregory Yeh @yeaforyeh
If you had to guess, when do you expect Gurley to make his season debut? Midseason?@nwagoner: I’d be very surprised if we didn’t see Todd Gurley until midseason. Jeff Fisher has said recently that Gurley probably won’t play in the preseason and that he doesn’t need to see Gurley take preseason reps to know when he’s ready. He’s moving around well in practice and doesn’t look like he’s had any setbacks. It’s still possible we could see him in Week 1, though I tend to doubt that if he was ready that first week he’d have much of a role. But since your question is when he would debut, as in appear in a game, I’m going to say at some point in the first three weeks. That’s just a guess right now, but it seems as though one option might be to slowly start working him in the mix early in the season. As for when he might be prepared to handle a big workload, sometime after the first quarter of the season appears more likely.
znModeratorI don’t know who wrote the last article, but it seems to ring true or rings the most true.
I forgot the link. It’s there now, via the magic of “edit.”
Why does it ring the most true, or what rings true about it?
znModeratorWell right now it’s possible to speculate a lot of different directions, but whatever view we take, these are the issues for 2015:
* how good is the line and how soon will it come together?
* how good is Foles? He’s clearly not BAD so we can rule that out, but where is his ceiling? So far we know he was a bit erratic in 2014, but at the same time was much better in comeback situations (2 minute offense?) We know that the flaw he had last year is showing up some this summer, according to camp reporters—namely, he can hold the ball too long when his first read isn’t there, and he isn’t as good when he does that. But then, how much difference does that make for a team built around the defense? By that I mean a team like that doesn’t have to expose its qb as much. But it’s all up in the air at the moment.
— I don’t know, is that consensus? Those 2 things? Seems to me that RB, WR, and TE are fine. As is the D.
* the defense sounds like it is nailing it, and to me that’s not just the front 7—the secondary seems to be tightening up. My major issue with them last year was giving up huge plays just on miscommunication and basic mistakes. According to at least one observer, Wagoner, that seems to be going away:
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http://theramshuddle.com/topic/wagoner-rams-mailbag-19/#post-28359
WAGONER: in my early estimation, it’s been a strong camp so far for cornerbacks Janoris Jenkins and Marcus Roberson and safety Rodney McLeod. McLeod looks particularly instinctive and hasn’t been caught out of position at all from what I’ve seen. That’s a good sign after he vowed that he wanted to cut down on the mistakes that led to big plays last season.
znModeratorEagles QB Nick Foles Has Mental Problems
Oct 31, 2014
http://eaglesaddict.com/2014/10/eagles-qb-nick-foles-has-mental-problems/#.VccrlbWsR1g
Yes, Eagles QB Nick Foles has mental problems. No, he’s not about to be taken away in a straight jacket, I’m talking about his mental prowess as it relates to the game of football.
Back in July, I wrote an article in response to some “hype” Foles was getting and talked about Foles still having plenty to prove this season. Well, we’re seven games into the season and I still don’t know exactly what to make of him.
He’s had some good moments and several bad ones. We all knew coming into this season that repeating his statistical performance of last year wasn’t going to happen. Just as we couldn’t look at his brilliant stats from last year and anoint him the next great thing, we can’t look at his severely uneven stats this year and anoint him as the next Kevin Kolb or Bobby Hoying.
That’s why I’m throwing stats out of the window for right now and just concentrate on what I’ve seen with my own two eyes.
What I’m seeing from Foles is a quarterback who is mentally struggling. He is hesitating too often, he’s feeling pressure that isn’t there at times, his decision-making appears panicked at other times and he is not seeing the field well (i.e., he’s not seeing wide open receivers).
Foles is a young player and what it seems we’re seeing is what could be the most “Captain Obvious” type of answer:
He’s still in the midst of learning how to be a quarterback in the NFL.
What I’m trying to say is that Foles doesn’t have the physical talent to compensate for a lack of talent with the mental aspect of the game. Foles’ career will ultimately be decided by how quickly he can mentally process the game at a pace that is fast enough to make the correct decisions with the football.
Think how other lesser athletic QBs who have excelled in the NFL have done it. Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Phillip Rivers have all had varying degrees of sustained success because of their mental acuity on the field.
Don’t misunderstand what I’m trying to say…I’m not saying Foles has to be Peyton Manning, I’m saying that for him to be as successful as he’s ever going to be, he will have to master Chip Kelly’s offense from a mental standpoint.
Foles is still not fully confident in what he’s doing. If his first read isn’t there, that’s when his struggles begin. He doesn’t seem to calmly go to his second and third reads and be decisive with the football. Instead, he hesitates. That hesitation means the pressure is coming from the pass rush and panic starts to set in.
That’s why he ends up making bad decisions and off-balance throws.
My guess is that Foles is truly relying on what Chip Kelly is teaching him. Foles wants to be the perfect student to Kelly’s teachings and is trying to perform the way his coach wants him to. Kelly has a few simplistic, yet strong stances on the play of the quarterback.
He believes that when a QB is sacked, most times it’s the fault of the QB for simply not throwing it away (“if it’s not there, throw it away and line up again”). He also wants a QB with “repetitive accuracy” and detests interceptions. Decision-making is key for a Chip Kelly quarterback.
Kelly is lauded for his offensive attack and when you listen to him talk about it, he seems to infer that it’s really a simple thing: find the mismatch and exploit it.
Perhaps Foles is somewhat intimidated by Kelly’s approach and it’s making him “think” much more than he’s ever been used to doing. Because, that’s what it really seems like…Foles is thinking too much and it’s delaying his decision-making.
When you hear Foles say after almost every game that he’s “learning”, maybe that’s exactly the truth. He still has to learn how to engineer the offensive machine that Kelly has implemented.
The million dollar question is, will he ever learn it well enough to be consistently successful? Will he ever truly “master” it?
Or is it what we see now is what we’re going to get? There is such a thing as “scheme fit” which is why you see some players fail on one team but become solid players on another.
Is Nick Foles truly a fit for Kelly’s offense? If the season ended today and we had to go on what he’s done to this point, I’d be drafting another QB in April.
He has the rest of this season to continue his learning and show that he has what it takes. I don’t care about stats…if what I’m actually seeing on the field doesn’t improve significantly, I’ll be on the “we need another QB bandwagon” come the offseason.
I came into this year with cautious optimism regarding Foles as our next “franchise quarterback.” At just about the halfway point, that optimism has taken a slight hit.
znModeratorCosell on Nick Foles
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/10/02/inside-voices-6/#fLD7zQjYI4shzS7Y.99
October 2, 2014
NFL Films Senior Producer Greg Cosell doesn’t see a different Nick Foles when he watches the tape, but rather a quarterback that is facing a new set of obstacles.
Really, it’s the defenses that are changing in Cosell’s view. Take, for instance, the Redskins and Niners. Both units largely remained in their base 3-4 against three-receiver sets when playing the Eagles, he said, which made it that much more difficult for the ground game to get going. With the run game stymied, Foles is frequently finding himself in third-and-longs .
“When Foles gets into more long-yardage situations — it’s tougher for any quarterback, that’s not just Nick Foles — but Foles is not the kind of quarterback that is going to stand in the pocket, sit on his back foot and drill the ball consistently between defenders,” he said.
Not only is Foles in a tougher spot when it comes to down and distance, but the windows he is being asked to throw into are often tighter than they were a year ago in Cosell’s opinion.
“Last year because all of this was new to defensive coordinators, we all agree that it looked last year like there were a ton of open receivers, which doesn’t happen that much in the NFL,” said Cosell.
“I think if you look at Foles the player, what you likely see is this: He’s got a good arm but not a gun; he’s not a power thrower, not a drive thrower. He’s a little more of a finesse thrower than a drive thrower. He does not have quick feet. There is no quick-twitch to his movement. There’s no explosive lower-body movement to him. When you look at Foles, I think what you see is a quarterback that needs the system to work for him and provide defined reads and good throws with the route concepts, just the whole system. He needs the system to work for him…
“I don’t think he’s really any different [from last year]. Because he’s not a quick-twitch guy, when he doesn’t feel comfortable making a throw he’ll start to look a little awkward because he’s not quick twitch, he moves around. There’s been more of that this year and I think that’s because defenses have done a really good job with the Eagles. Now it’s up to the Eagles to respond.”
znModeratorMarcus Forston, DT
School: Miami (Fla.) | Conference: ACCHeight/Weight: 6-1 / 301 lbs.
2012 Season
Forston was signed as an UDFA after the draft by the New England Patriots. Forston initially made the team, but was waived on September 26. He was then re-signed to the team’s practice squad and was later activated by the New England Patriots. Forston played in one game during the season; a 31-30 week 3 loss to the Baltimore Ravens.
2013 Season
Forston was waived by the New England Patriots entering the 2013 season, but was later signed to their practice squad. Forston was re-signed by the New England Patriots after Vince Wilfork’s season-ending injury. Forston registered one tackle for loss in ‘New England’s Week 6 30-27 win against the New Orleans Saints. Forston earned his first NFL start in New England’s Week 7 30-27 loss to the New York Jets, registering two tackles, with one tackle for loss.
On August 21, 2014, Forston was released by the Patriots.
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03/13/2012 – NFL DRAFT SCOUT TOP DOWN DEFENSIVE LINEMEN: *Marcus Forston, Miami, DT, 6-1, 301, 3…Forston has exceptional, natural athletic ability that thus far has been offset by his equally natural ability to have something go wrong, one way or the other. His career has been scarred, quite literally, with a number of injuries that limited his time on the playing field. As a promising freshman, Forston played eight games, including one start. The next year he was in only three games before being redshirting after injuring an ankle. He then missed spring practice in 2010 with a shoulder injury, but looked good in 12 starts that season. In 2011 he was suspended from the season opener by the NCAA for taking impermissible benefits while being recruited. Forston returned to start the next three games before a knee injury ended his season and, when he declared for the draft, his college career. NFL scouts are left to evaluate an injury-plagued, strong, gifted athlete who has been a work in progress, albeit with little progress. He demonstrated his natural strength at the combine by benching 225 pounds 35 times and although his speed and agility results were mediocre, he was at least healthy enough to take part. – Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange
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Positives — Good size and bulk, thick build with the strength to play the nose and quick enough to play as a 3-technique… Quick first step off the line of scrimmage, is always one of the first linemen moving off the football, can eat up blockers and can push and pressure the pocket and disrupt the play, can slip through gaps and work his way into the backfield… Strong lower body; when he stays low, he has the ability to control blockers and keep them off his frame due to his power and hand placement… Reasonably good length, has shown some quick and violent hands, flashes good hand play and a powerful punch, he holds the point reasonably well… Former blue-chip recruit who can also be used on stunts and loops… Above average range with the ability to make plays off his frame, solid lateral mobility and does a reasonably good job redirecting… Good motor, plays with a lot of energy, hustles to make plays in pursuit… Has some natural athleticism and some untapped potential but hasn’t put it all together yet.
Negatives — Needs to play with better pad level in both the run and pass game, gets too upright and linemen can get underneath him, engages a little high and exposes his frame; can struggle to maintain balance and loses control in these situations… Needs to be more consistent with his hand usage, doesn’t always extend his arms to engage the blocker… Can be overwhelmed versus bigger blockers in the run game, especially when blockers get underneath him, doesn’t look very comfortable in stack and shed situations… Will sometimes over-pursue inside on running plays, can be slow to locate the ball… Major durability issues, missed almost all the 2009 season with an MCL injury, played in just three games in 2011 before a knee injury ended his season… Was one of eight players suspended for Miami’s opening game at Maryland in 2011 due to taking extra benefits from a former booster… Looked out of shape at the beginning of this season… Is still very raw, his high pad level often negates his physical skill set and he doesn’t play to his potential with any consistency; however, has had success in college because of pure athleticism and many of his flaws are due to unpolished technique which can get better with good coaching.
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August 8, 2015 at 2:28 pm in reply to: Rams have signed Nick Foles to a two-year contract extension #28360znModeratorWell the numbers are good for the Team.
Assuminng, Foles is a solid QB.I guess Fisher is convinced Foles can
be a solid QB.This to me ignores the basics of good, sound football analysis.
So it looks like I will have to supply that myself.
What the optimistic view ignores is the curse that befalls good Rams qbs once they get a big contract.
Warner signed a big extension in 2000. As a result, he was injured and concussed that year. Then there was 2002 and 2003.
Bulger was coming on until after he signed a big 2nd contract. Then it was 3 years of non-stop physical abuse behind OLs suffering from over-the-top injuries.
Bradford of course signed his big contract as a rookie. And, was therefore surrounded by instability and a long list of OL injuries.
That’s what good, nutz n boltz, real rational and scientific football analysis shows us: how things like position curses work.
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znModeratorin my early estimation, it’s been a strong camp so far for cornerbacks Janoris Jenkins and Marcus Roberson and safety Rodney McLeod. McLeod looks particularly instinctive and hasn’t been caught out of position at all from what I’ve seen. That’s a good sign after he vowed that he wanted to cut down on the mistakes that led to big plays last season.
This alone IMO will make a big difference. Namely, cutting down on the huge, costly coverage mistakes that allowed easy big plays and easy scores.
znModeratorThere;s also jimi and Mike Franke:
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/ramview-8715-scrimmage-report-long/
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jimi-at-lindenwood/
And the 8/6 camp reports
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/camp-reports-86/
And much more before that
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/camp-reports-84/
The 8/2 camp reports are here, and in fact I added to that thread:
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/camp-reports-82/
CoachO’s 3-day report is here:
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/coacho-camp-report-covering-731-82/
Previous camp reports are here, including Jimi and Mike Franke:
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jimis-tweets-from-camp-82/
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/camp-reports-81/
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/camp-report/
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/ramview-73115-training-camp-report-long/
August 8, 2015 at 11:08 am in reply to: interview vids: Cook Kendricks Donald Quinn Brown Hayes McCleod Long Tru Sted #28354znModeratorOne-On-One with Rodney McLeod
Watch reporter Dani Klupenger interview safety Rodney McLeod after Friday’s Training Camp workout at Lindenwood University.
znModeratorRamBill: Fox 2 reports from the Rams annual scrimmage at Lindenwood University. Includes comments from Nick Foles, Jeff Fisher, Les Snead, TJ McDonald, James Lauranitis, and Todd Gurley… plus some scrimmage footage.
http://fox2now.com/2015/08/07/rams-hold-annual-training-scrimmage-at-lindenwood-university/
znModeratorMoostache
my thoughts from the east stands:
Gurley is bigger than I thought. He was running 1/2 speed 40’s along the sidelines in front of me for a lot of the first 1/2 of practice. No hitch in the giddy-up from what I could see, but he really had the look in his eye of a caged tiger…looked to me like if it were left up to him he’d be in with the 1’s already.
watched Gurley like a hawk most of the time he was out on the sideline. I was VERY skeptical of the pick in the first round, especially at #10 coming off the ACL. He did not have a limp and he was intentionally not making hard cuts. His body language is that of a guy who wants to go 100% and is being handled to prevent it from happening too soon. Like I said, his size is impressive up close. Saw him standing next to Mason and he looked HUGE! Also saw him talking with Ogletree and he looked nearly as big as Alec… Its encouraging to see him in pads and out there, but I just want him 100% before he gets “live”…
Foles was inconsistent and failed to “wow” me. He had a tipped ball picked by JJ and while that may not have been his fault, the entire play looked bad. HOWEVER…he better stay healthy or this season is a loss…Keenum is too small, Davis lacks any real arm strength (his throws had no ‘zip’ and he seemed to really labor to drive the ball to the sidelines and deeper than 20 yards from my vantage point)…Mannion is big and has a big arm too, but he is no where close to ready to be on an NFL field.
Saying the offense was “not sharp” is too kind…they pretty much stank. I remember one throw to the corner that was a very nice play by Mannion that stood out, but there was a lot of muddled performances too…the false starts, the general lack of any push in the middle…Donald looked like a beast in a few drills and flashed into the backfield a few others in 11-on-11, Quinn in sweatpants but participating was a little strange too.
Tavon Austin? Paging Mr. Tavon Austin? I have lost faith in him developing. There was a play that saw Bailey in the Y and Austin in the Z and I immediately said “Smurfs Right”….sadly, those two do not play like the ’82 Redskins’ Smurfs…to be fair, it is not just Austin that I was disappointed in… Joiner also simply looks too small. He is not a presence on the field in the same way some of the other CBs.
Quick dropped one that raised my eyebrows and flashed me back to his rookie camp…the added yellow cap on him kept drawing my eye to him in 7-on-7’s and 11-on-11’s and he was Just A Guy for much of the day.
The defense is either playing other worldly and destroying the center of the O-line, or our center situation is critical. I am very much worried about the performance today, but I don’t have a good frame of reference to compare it to…
I also think Pead makes the squad, in fact, I could see Bennie Cunningham ending up in a fight for his roster spot. A trio of Gurley, Mason and Pead as primary HBs would not make me sad at all. Bennie is a load though, he really looks like he should be a power back…maybe the team keeps 5 RBs again and Pead, Cunningham and Reynolds are primarily ST players again? There won’t be too many carries in the second half of the season as I could easily see the Rams running 15-18 per game for both Gurley and Mason.
GZ from 64 in live drill was good, but he missed from 61 and 64 in single drills…he still has an incredible leg and the sound of him kicking a ball is a little like being at a ballgame and hearing someone really lay into a hanging curve…the “POP” when he hits that ball is amazing. (Side note, at today’s event the balls he was kicking were running up onto the hill behind the south endzone and a group of kids assembled to try to catch the kicks that cleared the fence…my son was among them and he actually managed to catch one of Zeurlein’s kicks from 40…big thrill for the boy tonight!).
Overall, about what I expected…I HOPED the offense would look batter, but without Mason or Gurley taking real reps today and with the center position remaining a huge concern, I am not avoiding tall buildings or bridges about it…yet. The D looks like the are not just a little ahead of the O, they look like pros playing against collegians to my eyes.
Since today was not really about establishing and executing an offensive game plan, they get a pass, but I am really going to be paying close attention to the O the rest of camp and pre-season.
McLeod was playing deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep….about 20-25 yards off the line in a single high / center field role. The offense never went down the field and they weren’t really hitting too hard, so he had what I would consider a boring practice overall…nothing bad, but not many chances to do much either. Barron had one play that I saw that raised an eyebrow on his coverage, but he also had another that was in run support that also raised an eyebrow…he is what we thought he was…Not a spectacular coverage safety, but more than adequate as a “box safety” playing run support in Nickel formations as a 3rd safety. Bryant made one play in coverage that was pretty good and had me reaching for my roster to make sure who it was…other than that, he was largely invisible during the rest of the evening.
znModeratorRamzFanz
What can I say good? Well… um… the Rams won with a Zuerlein 64 yard FG! No injuries. SOME good performances.
This was not the training camp to see. Lots of moans and groans from the crowd. Very poor QB play overall. Many dropped balls and INTs. Run game was weak. MANY penalties.
I don’t know if the D is just that good or what, but it was not what I was hoping for.
I’ve gone from sure I was going to like Foles to wait and see. It could be the new scheme and team. It could be he takes chances he wouldn’t in a game. It could be the monster D. We’ll see.
I think that he double clutches and his accuracy, which is pretty damn good, drops considerably after the first option is gone. That could be unfamiliarity with where his options are, so, no biggie to me YET.
I’m very excited to see the QBs in pre-season and to hear your opinions.
You know, I’m just going to leave it at that. They have a long way to go before September 13th.
Keep in mind a lot of talent was on the sideline. Mannion had very few reps.
znModeratorbiggame1190
[Rams fan in Philadelphia goes to Eagles camp]
After watching Sam yesterday he looks solid and healthy. Sam was NOT wearing a knee brace and unlike early reports Sam was NOT laboring his knee. No limping.
Sam seemed to take most of if not all the reps he needed too. He performed a lot of roll outs and scramble passes, which was good to see. Sam did not air the ball out too much, maybe 2-3 deep balls (nor did the other QBs). He cleary has the best ball of the other QBs in Philly (most of you knew that already) and he looked fluid. Some miscommunication out there between Sam and his new pass catchers but afterwards Sam would be talking with them right away suring things up. At the end of practice each QB (except Barkley) did a 2 minute drill from there own 20, 7 on 7s. Sam’s team was the only one to score. Ertz and Nelson Agholor (who really impressed me with his skill) seemed to be Sam’s favorite targets.. Sanchez couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn over 15 yards and Tebow killed a lot of worms (although Tebow impressed me more than Sanchez).
znModerator12intheBox
Ooof. Not what one would call crisp today. Several offsides penalties, several dropped passes, several bad passes, a fumbled handoff – it just didn’t look really good for the offense.
Greg the Leg put on a show hitting a 64 yarder – so we’ve got that going for us.
I was able to see much more of the O Line play and they were pretty good – except the penalties.
Andrew Donnal looked overmatched against Brockers and Donald – but most guys are going to.
Greg Robinson was impressive. He did have one of the false starts – but he was pretty good against Quinn today.
Saw Havenstein pull on a WR screen and get way out in space on the hunt for a body to block – he had pretty good body control out there for such a bohemeth.
Rhainey ran with the 1s today – one of the false starts was on him.
Jamon Brown has impressed every time I have keyed on him – but there have been limited opportunities.
Maybe the best part of this scrimmage was the 1 on 1 work they did. They had linebackers rushing and backs / tight ends having to pick up the blitz.
The defense got the best of this drill for the most part but Pead had a few good moments (although he got eaten up by Dunbar on one). Akeem Ayers proved difficult for anyone to block in this drill. One thing I liked was when the drill was over – Ogletree and Pead each wanted one more shot at each other – I gave the win to Pead on that rep.
On the otherwise, it was WR v DB one on one
I was watching more of the pass rush at this time, but I did see Bailey beat Jenkins once – although JJ kept him in front of him. That was one of the few times I saw Jenkins let anyone catch anything around him. He was good again today.
The QB play was meh. I know we just extended Foles so I should put the rose colored glasses on – but he wasn’t at his best today.
The offense didn’t push the ball up the field much. For some reason, Britt didn’t dress today. He was missed.
Even Mannion didn’t look so hot today – he is only getting reps with the 3s which is frustrating me – but I’m a dude in the bleachers and coach is a millionaire because of what he knows about football.
Even the defense was jumping offsides in the drills. Maybe everyone was a bit antsy. After the 4th or 5th drop – the boo birds showed up. I can’t say it any other way – it really wasn’t a pretty performance.
I’d like to say it was just the defense dominating but that isn’t what it looked like. It was drops and mental break downs.
Barron was back and looked good today. Also, opening up the 11 on 11 Christian Bryant was running with the 1s in the slot – which is encouraging.
I finally got a good look at Battle and the guy aces the eyeball test. Big ol bubble butt on him and tree trunk arms. The size of a lot of these guys is just amazing – most of all Greg Robinson. Up close, he is a mountain.
Bayer and Cunningham had decent days catching the ball – they finally spread out Smelleys targets a bit, I guess.
Cook is still target #1 and target #2. Bailey got more looks today than I had seen. Even Tavon got in on it – and had a few decent catches. The outside doesn’t seem like his best fit.
I took in the scrimmage w Coach O, @CodeMonkey and his son, and @RamzFanz – the dream team of watching practice.
So this will be my last report – I was only in town for the week – and even though today was a bit sobering, I was lucky to have good weather and some good dudes to watch the action with. Now I go back to being an out of towner who relies on the eyes of those of you who go and watch and report back to the rest of us. Please guys, keep it going.
August 7, 2015 at 9:49 pm in reply to: Rams have signed Nick Foles to a two-year contract extension #28332znModeratorNick Wagoner @nwagoner
Here are the numbers for Foles. Wrote over the summer that deal in the $12-14 million annual range would make sense.
At first blush, this seems like a logical deal on both sides between #Rams and Nick Foles.
For #Rams, it doesn’t break the bank and they can get out relatively easy if he struggles
For Nick Foles, he gets another bite at apple soon if he excels. He’ll only be 29 when this deal would presumably expire.
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