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  • in reply to: RamView, 8/14/2015: Raiders 18, Rams 3 (Long) #28743
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    What kind of fires do you build in Maine?

    in reply to: RamView, 8/14/2015: Raiders 18, Rams 3 (Long) #28738
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    Siberian Ways. Big Log Fire

    That’s clearly an analogy. I am just not sure what it says. Explain? Thanks.

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    in reply to: Mission Accomplished! … responses to the Oakland game #28728
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    Just speculating but it is entirely possible that Oakland game-planned the Rams whereas the Rams were just in normal pre-season mode.

    Why would Oakland do that? It’s a good motivator for Del Rio to remind them about 52-0 and go get some payback.

    Now of course as I said this is pure speculation. Meaning, anyone who dares disagree with this true insight of mine is not a real Rams fan.

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    Oakland’s OL surprised me. I didn’t think it was that good.

    Hudson. Gabe Jackson. They got Donald Penn (LOT) up and going again. Another line built with free agents mixed in with draft picks.

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    It was hard to tell a lot from the game. The Raiders looked the better team. I liked Havenstein, Brown, and Mannion. The rest seemed up and down.

    Just speculating but it is entirely possible that Oakland game-planned the Rams whereas the Rams were just in normal pre-season mode.

    Why would Oakland do that? It’s a good motivator for Del Rio to remind them about 52-0 and go get some payback.

    Now of course as I said this is pure speculation. Meaning, anyone who dares disagree with this true insight of mine is not a real Rams fan.

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    in reply to: Rams vs. Raiders Preseason Week 1 highlights #28725
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    Yeah, he has to learn to hold onto the passes,
    and not get himself kilt too soon. Them two things.

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    What I like is that instead of doing that stupid Brian S. stuff where they would throw to Tavon standing still behind the LOS…

    …Cigz instead throws to him on a bubble screen.

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    Trumaine Johnson shows he’s capable of reclaiming starting job

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/174613/trumaine-johnson-shows-hes-capable-of-reclaiming-starting-job

    It was the third preseason game last season when St. Louis Rams cornerback Trumaine Johnson suffered a knee injury that essentially cost him his starting job. It was an injury to another corner, this time E.J. Gaines, that might have given it back to Johnson.

    “I don’t look at it like that,” Johnson said on the team’s broadcast. “I pray for the best for him for a speedy recovery. We always say it’s always next man up.”
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    Last year, Gaines was the next man up when Johnson went down. Gaines never looked back on his way to an impressive rookie season in which he held on to the job almost the entire season.

    Now, with Gaines battling a foot injury that looks like it will keep him out a while, the roles are reversed. And Johnson showed Friday night that if indeed he has to step back into his former role, he’s more than ready to do so.

    Johnson played only two series in the Rams’ 18-3 loss Friday night to the Oakland Raiders, but nevertheless he made his presence felt early and often. Playing in front of about 50 to 60 friends and family members from nearby Stockton, California, Johnson finished with a tackle, an interception and two passes defended. He did have a facemask penalty that cost the Rams 15 yards but immediately redeemed himself by coming up with the interception. He jumped an inside slant route at the goal line to kill a potential scoring drive.

    It was a tantalizing reminder of Johnson’s physical talent. At 6-foot-2, 208 pounds, Johnson is the closest thing the Rams have to the bigger, more physical corner preferred by teams around the league. Despite that size, Johnson seemed to get lost in the shuffle after his injury in 2014.

    By the end of the season, Johnson had 36 tackles and three interceptions in nine games. He played mostly on the outside with Gaines moving into the slot when the Rams went to nickel formations. But Johnson was also never really back to full strength until this offseason. He said Friday night that he’s no longer thinking about the knee issue.

    “No, not at all,” Johnson said. “You can’t. It was feeling 100 [percent] on our first break, when we got those four months off after the season. I stayed in St. Louis for the most part, not because I was injured but because I wanted to.”

    Whether Johnson will get the chance to stay in St. Louis beyond this season remains to be seen. He’s scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent after the year. But with Gaines ailing, Johnson figures to get a shot to regain his job in the short term. And if he can carry over Friday’s performance into consistent production in the regular season, maybe even longer.

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    Rams drop preseason opener vs. Raiders

    Nate Latsch

    http://www.scout.com/nfl/rams/story/1574539-rams-drop-preseason-opener-vs-raiders

    HIGHLIGHTS

    • Quarterback Nick Foles completed three of five pass attempts for 69 yards, with no touchdowns or interceptions. He was sacked once. Foles started off with some nice throws but struggled late in his second series when he was overwhelmed by defensive pressure.

    • One of those Foles completions was a quick screen left to Tavon Austin that the diminutive speedster turned into a 35-yard gain with some nifty cuts downfield. The Rams need to get the former first-round pick more involved in the offense and give him a chance to make these kind of plays.

    • Trumaine Johnson’s first-quarter interception of a Derek Carr pass thwarted what looked to be a scoring drive on the Raiders’ second series. Johnson redeemed himself after committing a penalty earlier on the possession.

    • Undrafted rookie cornerback Imoan Claiborne came up with an interception of a Christian Ponder pass late in the first half. He’s been in the right place at a right time on a few occasions throughout camp and with E.J. Gaines out with an injury could be setting himself up to earn a spot on the 53-man roster.

    • Rookie quarterback Sean Mannion saw some time late in the fourth quarter and the third-round pick showed inconsistency but did have some flashes. He completed eight of 13 pass attempts for 53 yards.

    LOWLIGHTS

    • Starting left guard Rodger Saffold left the game holding his right arm or wrist following the fourth play of the game and did not return. It could be a reoccurrence of the shoulder issue he has been bothered by in the past and had surgery to fix this offseason.

    • The Rams’ renovated offensive line didn’t fare well in its first outing and looked very poor at times with pass protection. Losing Saffold early didn’t help, though he wouldn’t have played much more anyway. It’s only one game, but the St. Louis offensive line has to get better quickly.

    • Penalties. Penalties. Penalties. The Rams were flagged 10 times for 75 yards. Penalties in a preseason game isn’t unusual, of course, but with the Rams’ history of committing too many it is worth noting.

    • Lamarcus Joyner was beaten on a 3-yard touchdown pass from Christian Ponder to Andre Holmes. Joyner was screened a bit by Rams rookie linebacker Bryce Hager, but the 2014 second-round pick still could have made a better play on the ball.

    • The Raiders’ four quarterbacks combined to complete 23 of 30 passes for 215 yards, with two touchdowns and two interceptions. Matt McGloin completed 10 of 11 passes for 104 yards and a score.

    • The Rams’ defense couldn’t get off the field on third down. The Raiders converted seven of their 11 third-down attempts (63 percent).

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    Five Takeaways: Rams at Raiders

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Five-Takeaways-Rams-at-Raiders/35dfaa7f-89bd-457f-babf-8f5c19c57325

    The first preseason game is in the books, with the Rams getting good work in against the Raiders. The final score was 18-3. Here are five takeaways from the first exhibition matchup.

    1. Tavon Austin is really fast

    The wide receiver was electrifying on the Rams’ second snap, as he took a screen play 35 yards to set up a field goal. Head coach Jeff Fisher and offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti have both stated that they would like to increase the number of times Austin has the ball in space, and this play was a prime example of that coming to fruition.

    The wideout made the catch on the left side of the field, got a good block from fellow receiver Kenny Britt, and then juked his way past a few black jerseys to get to the middle of the gridiron. From there, it was Austin’s speed and quickness that sprung him for the big gain.

    Keep in mind that the Rams will not be featuring their full package of offensive plays until the regular season starts. But at least from the first few plays of this one, the future looks pretty bright for Tavon Austin.

    2. Foles getting in sync

    While Austin’s shiftiness may have set up that field goal, the drive began with an impressive down-field pass from quarterback Nick Foles to tight end Lance Kendricks. The QB floated the ball right to the bread basket, and it ended up going for a 26-yard gain.

    “He’s just in sync with the whole offense — a great rhythm, great timing with everybody, easy to work with,” Kendricks said. “It’s going to be a fun season”

    Foles finished 3-of-5 passing for 69 yards in his Rams preseason debut. Kendricks said he was pleased with how the first offensive unit performed.

    “I think we played pretty good, a couple mistakes here and there, but we’ve got to get better and we will,” Kendricks said.

    3. Don’t test Trumaine Johnson

    Johnson made a couple of key plays in the first quarter to keep the Raiders from putting up six points. The first came on Oakland’s first drive, when the corner deflected a pass intended for Michael Crabtree close to the front corner of the end zone. And while he committed a facemask penalty on the home team’s second possession, he recovered by ending it with an interception in the end zone.

    “I just read the quarterback’s eyes and was able to make a play,” Johnson said of the pick.

    While he missed significant time with a knee injury last season, Johnson quietly finished 2014 leading the Rams in interceptions. So far through training camp and limited preseason action, the corner’s ball skills are strong as ever.

    4. Target No. 12 and No. 19

    Wide receivers Stedman Bailey and Chris Givens led the way for the Rams in targets and receptions. Bailey caught three passes for 24 yards, and Givens caught four for 36. The wideout also took an end around 16 yards, displaying his considerable speed.

    But if you noticed in the headline to the section, Givens is no longer wearing No. 13. This week, the receiver switched his number for a great reason, as Tweeted by Rams’ preseason play-by-play broadcaster Andrew Siciliano.

    Rams WR Chris Givens will now wear #19 to honor former Wake Forest teammate Kevin Smith-Franklin who died last December in a car accident.
    — Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) August 15, 2015

    5. A few too many penalties

    In the first half alone, the Rams were flagged six times for 50 yards. Yes, it’s preseason and it’s the first time St. Louis has faced off against an opponent with referees. But holding, facemask, and delay-of-game penalties can be particularly detrimental to a team’s cause. Again, it’s only the first exhibition game, so it’s not reason for alarm. But the Rams will likely look to correct some of those issues over the next week practicing with the Cowboys in Oxnard, Calif.[/quote]

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    No surprise: Rams’ offense a work in progress in loss to Raiders

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20336/no-surprise-rams-offense-a-work-in-progress-in-loss-to-raiders

    That the St. Louis Rams only posted a field goal in their 18-3 loss to the Oakland Raiders in the preseason opener should come as no surprise. It’s a group that’s going to take some time to coalesce and expecting it to happen in just a couple of weeks of practice and one preseason game is a fool’s errand.

    Whether it was the starters or any of the backups, the Rams simply couldn’t muster much offense, even against the team they beat 52-0 in the 2014 regular season. The Rams finished with 285 total yards and, aside from their opening drive, didn’t come that close to reaching the end zone.

    Some more quick thoughts on the preseason opener:

    QB depth chart: As expected, Nick Foles made the start and played two series, but there’s no doubt it’s his job. The real battle at quarterback is for the No. 2 job, where Case Keenum got the first opportunity ahead of Austin Davis. Keenum played the second and third quarter, performing better in the third. He stood and delivered well in the face of pressure a couple of times on a third-quarter drive and went 12-of-17 for 83 yards on the night. Davis got the third opportunity, going 1-of-2 for 12 yards before giving way to rookie Sean Mannion. Safe to say, neither Davis nor Keenum did much to separate from each other.

    Maybe that dude could start: It’s strange to say about a former No. 8 overall pick, but Tavon Austin offered a glimpse of his game-breaking ability on a 35-yard catch and run on the opening series. He isn’t expected to be a starter in a technical sense, but he reminded why he needs to be heavily involved in the offense because he brings something unique to the table.

    Who got hurt?: It’s become an all too familiar refrain, but the Rams were only four plays into their opening drive when left guard Rodger Saffold left the field holding his right arm. He did not return to the game. Linebacker Daren Bates also limped off in the second quarter with a knee injury and did not return.

    Among those not playing because of previous issues: running back Todd Gurley, end Chris Long, receiver Brian Quick, cornerback Brandon McGee, cornerback E.J. Gaines, linebacker Korey Toomer, guard Cody Wichmann, tight end Brad Smelley, defensive tackle Doug Worthington and end Eugene Sims.

    Surprise performer: Undrafted rookie cornerback Imoan Claiborne has made a habit of coming up with interceptions in practice and carried it over to Friday’s game. He picked off Christian Ponder to end the first half and continues building a case to steal a roster spot at a crowded position.

    Rookie watch: Right tackle Rob Havenstein and right guard Jamon Brown started and played the first two series with the starters before calling it a night. They did well to create room for back Benny Cunningham to move the chains on a third-down run and had no serious issues in pass protection though Havenstein appeared to have a couple of hiccups. Andrew Donnal, who came in at right tackle with the second-team offense, picked up a holding penalty to negate a big gain.

    When it was starters vs. starters, the Rams looked … : Alternately good and bad. Perhaps as you’d expect from a preseason opener, the Rams’ starters played all but one play of the first quarter and had to take the good with the bad. With starters on the field, the Rams and Raiders were tied at 3.

    Foles completed his first two passes for 61 yards to set up a field goal but went nowhere on the second drive, completing one of his next three passes for 8 yards and taking two hits and a sack.

    On defense, the vanilla Rams had some trouble with Oakland’s misdirection in the run game and Derek Carr’s quick release in the passing game. Cornerback Trumaine Johnson, who picked up a 15-yard penalty for grabbing a face mask, redeemed himself by jumping a slant at the goal line for an interception to kill the Raiders’ second drive.

    One reason to freak out: Although initial returns are that Saffold’s shoulder issue isn’t serious, the Rams can’t afford to lose him for an extended period. He’s the only offensive line starter with more than 12 games of playing experience. Brandon Washington replaced him at left guard and gave up a sack with Foles still in the game. The Rams simply don’t have much proven depth behind the starters on the offensive line.

    Man in the middle: The Rams listed Barrett Jones as the starting center on their “unofficial” depth chart this week but it was Tim Barnes getting the start and playing the first two series. Jones came in with the second team and Demetrius Rhaney came in later. That trio is, of course, competing for the starting job in the middle, but the Rams don’t plan to make a decision right away. For what it’s worth, Barnes held up pretty well.

    Penalty woes remain: Last week, Rams coach Jeff Fisher said he was pleased with his team’s emphasis on cutting down on penalties. That didn’t last long. They struggled again against the Raiders, posting 10 accepted penalties for 75 yards with at least three more infractions that were declined. Each preseason, Fisher says it’s a problem his team is working to correct. And each year, it carries over as the Rams have the most penalties and penalty yards in the NFL in Fisher’s three seasons in St. Louis.

    in reply to: 101 – 8/14, Ryan Clark #28698
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    Clark is a pretty good listen btw

    in reply to: is Foles a fit in St. Louis? #28697
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    But there are ‘hints’ and shadowy whispers that maybe Foles might possibly
    have…that…thing. I mean, when i read the stuff the Eagle players
    said about him, there were hints about that. And some of the stuff
    ‘some’ of the Ram players are saying hint at that.

    If he has ‘that thing’ it could bode well for the fourth quarter

    Could be. I’ve been wondering along those lines myself.

    in reply to: is Foles a fit in St. Louis? #28692
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    zn, you posted an article that talked about Foles. In it, it said that when Kelly’s offense was new, teams were sort of forced to play man-to-man. When they started to figure it out and play more zone, Foles performance dropped. If memory serves?

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    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/2014-article-nick-foles-remains-a-qb-enigma/

    In watching film from last season, the Jaguars saw what others have seen: Foles has a tendency to hold on to the ball too long. When he has to go through his progressions and find second or third reads, he can be hesitant, which leads to sacks.

    The Jaguars thought if they could play solid zone coverage against the Eagles, their pass-rushers could get to Foles, which is exactly what happened in the first half.

    “We knew if we started fast, he’d hold on to the ball a little bit, because they run long-developing routes,” Clemons said. “We knew if we could get to him, we’d go for what we call the run-run-reach, which is coming from behind and swiping the ball. When they can’t see you, it’s easy.”

    Greg Cosell, executive producer of ESPN’s “NFL Matchup” show, has watched every snap Foles has taken as a pro. Cosell said the Eagles faced man coverage last season primarily from defenses that reacted to Philadelphia’s tempo. Cosell expects that teams will emulate what the New Orleans Saints did in a playoff win at Philadelphia in January and what Jacksonville did in Week 1: be more proactive and aggressive, particularly if the Eagles continue to have issues on their offensive line.

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    New-look Rams offense gets first shot at outside opponent

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20293/new-look-rams-offense-gets-first-shot-at-outside-opponent

    The St. Louis Rams open the preseason at 10 p.m. ET Friday against the Oakland Raiders at O.co Coliseum. Here’s a couple things to watch for during the game:

    Why watch: The Rams won’t play the starting offense much but quarterback Nick Foles, new starters at center, right guard and right tackle and coordinator Frank Cignetti will get their first crack at running the team’s revamped offense. It’s been tough sledding for that group during training camp but now we’ll get a taste of whether that’s more a function of their own struggles or the product of playing a dominant defense.

    Did you know: Unless you’re a diehard wanting to see which Rams might win roster spots 49-53, there’s often little reason to watch the second half of the first preseason game but there’s a fun family tie that should add a little something to the second half in this one. Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams’ son, Chase, is a rookie linebacker for the Raiders. Not many dads get to coach against their son in their first NFL game but it’ll be a Williams family affair Friday night.

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    I think figuring Foles out is complicated. So I think that he has different aspects to him. You hear Foles has some gunslinger in him and I think that’s true. But you also hear that all Foles has to do is minimize mistakes and let Gurley and the D win games. I think that’s ALSO true.

    Some of this I’ve said before but it’s Game Day so it rises in my mind. I have a long and a short version. Short version comes at the end.

    Just some opinions and glimpses mixed in with some facts, but, I think Foles does have some gunslinger in him, from what I have seen, but it’s not always successful. Last year there were all sorts of different signals about Foles, and they show different things, some better than others (this is just a glimpse. I don’t have a handle on Foles yet. I need to see him in this offense.)

    Foles is actually a good rhythm/short game passer. Last year Foles, as everyone knows, was not as stellar overall as he was in 2013, but where he did do well was throwing the ball in under 2.6 seconds. He had a 73.5% completion percentage when he threw quickly, which was 6th out of 39 qbs, and a qb rating of 103.5, which was 11th.

    Everyone talks about Foles being able to get out of trouble and look downfield, but actually, he was a worse qb overall when he did that in 2014. Now this isn’t about the long passing game—you can set up and design long passes, without the improvisation. I am talking about what he’s like when he tries to extend a play or holds the ball to make something happen. (The kind of thing for example Wilson excels at.) When Foles has the ball for more than 2.6 seconds, his completion percentage in 2014 was 46.4%, which was 38th out of 39. His qb rating fell to 59.4, which was 37th out of 39. Only Blake Bortles and Josh McCown were worse.

    I just think he’s far better at the improv stuff when there’s a very effective running threat.

    In terms of holding the ball in 2013, he was much better. When he held the ball for 2.6 seconds or more in 2013, he had a completion percentage of 55.6% (which was 13th in the league) and a qb rating of 113.4 (which was 1st in the league). What was the difference between 2013 and 2014? Big mystery there. Probably a lot of things. One was that the Eagles ran the ball much more effectively in 2013. (Also, in 2013, when he got rid of the ball in under 2.6 seconds, he had a completion percentage of 74.5%, which was 2nd in the league).

    But as for our dichotomy, you can have some Brett Favre in you and STILL run a good tight ball control game. In fact I think that’s precisely what they intend to do with him. That will go along, of course, with setting up big plays through play action.

    Looking just at the NUMBERS (and I stress “numbers” because that means ONLY numbers, which isn’t ever quite enough), what they seem to say on this issue is that he’s up and down as a player who holds the ball and looks to make something happen, but he is consistently good as a ball control, rhythm passer.

    But then…again, I see all sorts of early signs that the Rams are setting up a ball control, rhythm passing game. That;s actually the opposite of what we were getting last summer, when all sorts of signs pointed to the fact that they wanted to throw downfield a fair percentage of the time and exploit Britt and Quick in the medium passing range game (11-20 yards, and deep medium in the 21-30 yard range).

    Short version.

    I think he’s good at a ball control passing game, but can also be effective doing more than that if the offense sets him up to do that. That means running the ball effectively, reducing mistakes, doing the field position battle thing, relying on the defense, and passing in rhythm. So he CAN be a good deep passer and also a good improviser, but IMO only if he does it from a stable base with an offense that can control the ball most of the time.

    So which is he? Ball control passer or gunslinger? Both. Good at the former, and better at the latter when the overall offense is under more control.

    BUT at the same time in 2013 he showed all sorts of signs he was good at the 2 minute offense and comeback wins.

    Just some preliminary guesses on my part.

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    http://www.freefootballradio.com/Stlouis.html

    Maybe one of these will work for Stl. announcers?

    Thanks. That’s a thought too.

    But if that doesn;t work, I am not quite as worried about it this year, since as Ramsrule points out, it is possible this year to get all of the next 3 games live.

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    bump

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    Ogletree is a prime example of a player who may finally be getting it. A 2013 first-round pick, Ogletree struggled in the first half of last season after reporting to training camp overweight and then having to work his way into shape.

    Conditioning is no longer an issue. Ogletree stayed around team headquarters for almost the entire offseason training and immersed himself in film study hoping to secure an expanded role in coordinator Gregg Williams’ defensive scheme.

    “Guys are tired of people saying we look the part and we look good on paper,” Rams outside linebacker Alec Ogletree said. “It’s all about what you do on the field.”

    As middle linebacker James Lauriniatis said, “They understand all this preseason hype we’ve had the last couple of years doesn’t automatically translate (to wins).”

    Okay. That;s better, anyway.

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    5 things to watch: Rams vs. Oakland

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/things-to-watch-rams-vs-oakland/article_9bcfb84e-5292-5684-a592-fe08d4f40388.html

    FOLES’ FIRST STEPS

    The Rams have handed him the keys to the offense in the form of a three-year, $26 million contract extension. Hopefully, new QB Nick Foles won’t drive it into the Bay in Oakland. Actually, Foles won’t be on the field long enough to do much good or bad. But these will be the first passes he throws in a Rams uniform, albeit for only a series or two.

    ROOKIES RULE

    The biggest question mark on the team is the inexperienced offensive line, particularly rookie starters Rob Havenstein at right tackle and Jamon Brown at right guard. Despite their talent and early progress in camp, they need all the game reps they can get before the real deal comes in September. Look for them to play most if not all of the first half.

    CENTER ATTRACTION

    The battle for the starting center job begins to take form tonight in O.co Coliseum. The Rams’ official depth chart lists Barrett Jones as the starter, but Tim Barnes and Demetrius Rhaney should get playing time against the Raiders as well. Besides the obvious — blocking — this competition is about clean exchanges and making proper line calls.

    BACKFIELD BACKUPS

    First-round draft pick Todd Gurley won’t play as the Rams ease him back from knee surgery. Tre Mason (hamstring) probably sits this one out, too. So it will be all about the backups. The coaches know what Benny Cunningham can do. But Trey Watts, Chase Reynolds, Isaiah Pead, and rookie free agents Malcolm Brown and Zach Laskey all could get plenty of work.

    CORNER MARKET

    With E.J. Gaines out, and young veterans Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson missing practice time this week, second-year man Lamarcus Joyner could be on the field a lot Friday night. So could youngsters Marcus Roberson and Imoan Claiborne, who have shown good cover and ball skills in camp. They are in the mix for the fifth (or sixth) corner spot.

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    at all three levels, they’ve got at least one guy poised to become a superstar and possibly the best at his position

    All true and well put.

    Plus, IMO, IF McCleod and the CBs come through as promised, they do not have any real weak links. Not everyone is a potential star, but they are all various degrees of good. The CBs, McCleod, JL, Ayers, Long, Hayes, Sims, and who knows about Fairley and Barron.

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    Rams set to take on Raiders

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-set-to-take-on-raiders/article_6f0039f8-f63b-5044-9f60-d9efbaa362ce.html

    The last time Nick Foles stepped foot in O.Co Coliseum, home of the Oakland Raiders, he threw seven touchdown passes.

    That came as a Philadelphia Eagle on Nov. 3, 2013, and it tied an NFL single-game record. He won’t throw seven TD passes Friday in the Rams’ preseason opener in Oakland. (Kickoff is 9 p.m. St. Louis time.) In fact, Foles might not even throw seven passes before he gives way to backups Case Keenum, Austin Davis and Sean Mannion.

    Foles is expected to play only a series or two in his Rams debut, but coach Jeff Fisher couldn’t be happier with what he has seen from Foles so far, particularly from a leadership standpoint.

    “Nick’s had a really good camp,” Fisher said. “I’m just really proud of him and happy that he’s here, so it will be fun to watch him play a little bit.”

    For openers, Fisher wants Foles to get the ball out quick and wants the Rams’ inexperienced offensive line to give him a clean pocket.

    “We want to protect him,” Fisher said. “We don’t want to get him hit. Get rid of the ball. Coach (Jack) Del Rio is a good football coach, a defensive guy. And he’s going to have them rolling off (the line). So we just have to be smart offensively.”

    Del Rio, a former head coach in Jacksonville but most recently defensive coordinator for Denver, is the Raiders’ new head coach.

    Protecting the quarterback obviously is a must no matter what style of offense you’re running. But in the case of the Rams, getting the ball out quickly will be standard operating procedure behind a young offensive line.

    So regardless of who’s at quarterback, it wouldn’t be surprising to see the Rams throw a lot of short stuff, using play-action to go deep once the running game has been established.

    With rookies Rob Havenstein and Jamon Brown scheduled to start at right tackle and right guard, respectively, and with an inexperienced player at center no matter who wins that competition, the Rams need to get the ball out quick early in the regular season while the O-line settles in. Friday’s game could start to set that tone.

    Many of the Rams’ frontline players will be rested against Oakland due to a variety of aches and injuries. Others will play sparingly. But that’s the way of the world in preseason openers: It’s all about evaluating the younger players, particularly those on the back end of the 90-man training camp roster.

    “We’re going to play younger players, particularly in the second half,” Fisher said. “When you look at the roster and you start looking at the 51st, 52nd, and 53rd player, so much of it has to do with their ability to contribute on special teams.

    “We’re going to give guys opportunities to do some things and show us some things on special teams. But at the same time being mindful of the fact that if they’re playing every snap on defense, and then going out and covering every kick, that’s hard.”

    The idea throughout is to see how the newcomers, and relative newcomers, respond to pressure. The kind of pressure that can only be applied by playing guys in opposing uniforms.

    “That’s always the first thing that we’re looking at,” Fisher said.

    And when that happens, the rose-colored glasses start to come off. The happy talk of the first couple of weeks of training camp is replaced by errant blocks, false starts, dropped passes and missed tackles.

    As defensive coordinator Gregg Williams put it: “We all have strengths and we all have weaknesses. … When I see them have their strengths then we’ll package those guys into those strengths.”

    And when he sees their weaknesses exposed, Williams then tries to minimize those risks when those players are in the game.

    “It’s important for me to get a chance to see them in competition,” Williams said. “These preseason games are important that way.”

    Naturally, those that display too many weaknesses won’t be around when the roster is cut to the final 53 in early September.

    Preseason game or not, Fisher is hoping for fewer penalties and better execution, even in what’s more of a free-form setting with next to no game-planning.

    “We just want to go out and let players play,” Fisher said. “When you’re playing your vets and your starters early in the game, you want it clean. We want to avoid penalties. We want to avoid the line of scrimmage things and the things that have victimized us in years past. Hopefully, our emphasis here on the practice field will carry over.”

    Following Friday’s game, the team will stay in California for most of the week, moving south to the Los Angeles area for practices against the Dallas Cowboys on Monday and Tuesday. The Rams will practice by themselves on Wednesday in Oxnard, the Cowboys’ camp home, before flying back to St. Louis.

    For fans of the old Los Angeles Rams, it will be a glimpse of the team that owner Stan Kroenke is trying to move to the West Coast in 2016. The Cowboys usually practice before big crowds in camp practices there; the appearance by the Rams should bolster those numbers

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    Penalty problems among things to watch as Rams start preseason

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20315/penalty-problems-among-things-to-watch-as-rams-start-preseason

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams and Oakland Raiders kick off the preseason Friday night at O.co Stadium in Oakland. Kickoff is set for 10 p.m. ET. Here are three things to watch as the exhibition slate gets underway.

    1. Will penalty problems persist?: Just last week, Rams coach Jeff Fisher went out of his way to point out that his team had done a good job of avoiding penalties in practice during training camp. The next night at the team’s annual scrimmage, the penalty issues of recent seasons popped up. In the time since, flags have been fairly abundant, especially the pre-snap variety. Since Fisher arrived in St. Louis, the Rams have struggled with penalties in the preseason with Fisher saying that they’d be cleaned up during the season. It hasn’t happened.

    The Rams had 122 accepted penalties in 2014, third-most in the NFL. Their 59 offensive penalties were also third most and their 1,139 penalty yards were the most in the NFL. In three seasons under Fisher, the Rams have accumulated 375 penalties for 3,126 penalty yards, both of which are the most in the league over that period.

    That hidden yardage has been difficult for the Rams to overcome, especially on offense. It’s probably unwise to expect it to change dramatically this season but Fisher has called it a point of emphasis and if the Rams aren’t responding, that doesn’t bode well moving forward.

    2. First look at Foles: New Rams quarterback Nick Foles isn’t likely to play more than a series or two and when he’s in, the Rams probably won’t ask him to throw it around much. One of the team’s top priorities this preseason is protecting Foles and ensuring he gets to the regular season healthy.

    Still, getting a look at Foles in a game setting for the first time will offer a little glimpse of what could be in store for the season. When Foles does throw it, expect the ball to come out quick in the Rams’ west coast style.

    It’s been tough sledding for Foles and the offense in training camp but the Rams believe that having Foles & Co. battling the team’s loaded defense should help the offense when it faces other opponents. It doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things but it wouldn’t be bad for the group’s confidence to put together a good drive or two before Foles calls it a night.

    3. Injuries into opportunity: The Rams have a handful of players dealing with a variety of injury issues though none of them appear too serious. But those ailments will likely keep players like cornerback E.J. Gaines, running back Tre Mason, end Chris Long and others out of this game. That should create plenty of chances for others to step in and make a strong impression. Some players worth monitoring include cornerbacks Marcus Roberson and Imoan Claiborne, end Martin Ifedi and running back Malcolm Brown. The bottom half of the roster won’t lack for playing time so this game should offer a prime chance to begin making a case for roster spots.

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    Can Rams defense be league’s best?

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20287/can-rams-defense-be-the-leagues-best

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The expectations for the St. Louis Rams’ defense in 2015 have already reached fever pitch. Well, they did Wednesday.

    For much of the offseason, many — present company included — have wondered whether the Rams could finally take the next step to becoming a top-five defense. But TheMMQB.com’s Andy Benoit took things up a notch Wednesday when he wrote that the Rams will not only be a top-five defense but the top defense in the entire NFL.

    Benoit goes on to tick off the many key pieces to the defense and points to the young players like linebacker Alec Ogletree, safety T.J. McDonald and others who are entering their prime at the same time. To be clear, Benoit isn’t necessarily saying the Rams defense will dominate the statistics to be ranked first but that it will be the group that performs the best to help the team stack victories.

    “St. Louis’s defense may not finish first in yards or points allowed this season—though it’s sure to be much higher than near the middle, where it finished a year ago,” Benoit wrote. “But in terms of creating team-wide success that contributes directly to victories, it will surpass Seattle as the league’s best D. The Rams’ foundation is built on big plays, and there will be enough of them to put this team in the playoffs for the first time since 2004.”

    It’s high praise but it’s also not entirely out of the question. Coordinator Gregg Williams is the Rams’ best coach and the type of defensive mind capable of helping this group finally put it all together.

    Talent has never been in question. Consistency has. It still seems like a long journey to the top for a defense that’s underperformed relative to expectations in recent seasons. But there’s no doubt the pieces are in place to make it happen. It’s up to Williams to put those pieces together to make Benoit’s prediction a reality.

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    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20287/can-rams-defense-be-the-leagues-best

    A roundup of Wednesday’s Rams stories appearing on ESPN.com. … We started the day with the thoughts of the man who once nearly owned the Rams, Jaguars owner Shahid Khan, on the future of football in St. Louis. … The Inglewood project is the most impressive of all of those being discussed but owners might have a tough decision when it comes time because St. Louis has made the most progress of the home markets. … Rams owner Stan Kroenke is nearly free and clear from the cross-ownership issue that’s followed him for the past four-plus years. … Breaking down quarterback Nick Foles’ contract.

    Elsewhere:

    Chris Mortensen discussed Los Angeles and the competition to get there on Mike and Mike.

    Chargers reporter Eric Williams writes that San Diego is making it harder on the Chargers to get to Los Angeles.

    Missouri Governor Jay Nixon stopped by Chiefs training camp and talked about the pursuit of a stadium in St. Louis.

    At 101sports.com, Anthony Stalter and Chris Duncan had a conversation about whether the Rams should re-sign cornerback Janoris Jenkins soon.

    At stltoday.com, Dave Peacock says St. Louis controls its NFL destiny.[/quote]

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    Mixed camp reports coming from different sources. This makes me feel better.

    I think…

    This is all IMO…but? It’s really only one CR that’s being talked about in that question to JT. One controversial one. Camp reports always differ to an extent, but it’s rare to get an extremely different one like that.

    Camp reports this year, so far, come from about a dozen people. By the time Californians chime in from the Oxnard practices, it will be more than 2 dozen. USUALLY there’s overlap and some degree of consensus among CRs. And in fact that’s good, because over the years, what you find out is that the real value of CRs is where different people see similar things (within a range).

    In fact, they have always differed—and they have always been from different views. That’s been true since posters first began writing them. But as I said there’s usually a basic range of difference circling some kind of (broad) consensus view.

    That one controversial report being talked about there? It is actually kind of an anomaly. And I say that after more then a decade of collecting and re-posting them. It’s the first time I have seen a complete anomaly like that.

    It’s here btw, along with a discussion of it:

    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/810-camp-report/#post-28604

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    Well, subjectively-speaking of course,
    it looks lame-and-awful,
    to me.

    w
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    You;re just jealous.

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    In St. Louis it’s on KTVI channel 2….

    —————————

    from off the net

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    Ramsrule

    ok….. if I’m reading the schedule correctly, use this method to get to see 3 out of the 4 preseason games live for free –

    Oakland game is an issue so this one is the game you’ll have to find an alternate way to watch

    Titans game – scheduled for a live national broadcast on Fox per NFL.com – need to confirm this – if so, we’re golden

    Prior to 8/29 game against the Colts, sign up for free 7 day trial of Game Pass, which will cover both the Colts game and the Chiefs game. Be sure to cancel after Chiefs game so you dont get charged for the full season.

    There you go….. enjoy!

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    If my projections are close, I end up with 7-4 million for 5 FAs. This is without and cutting or restructuring.

    By that do you mean that you end up with 7-4 M left in 2016 after signing Rams guys?

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    Is Chancellor’s holdout selfish, smart, or both?

    Mike Florio

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/12/is-chancellors-holdout-selfish-smart-or-both/

    It took three day, but it finally happened. Rodney Harrison and yours truly had a somewhat sharp disagreement during NBCSN’s Pro Football Talk.

    The debate was sparked by a conversation regarding the status of Seahawks safety Kam Chancellor, whose holdout has become an afterthought amid the litigators and jawbreakers who have dominated training camp.

    Is Chancellor being selfish or is he making a smart business decision? Rodney says the former, I say the latter.

    And then it occurred to me after the dust settled: Maybe it’s both.

    But that would have meant room for a potential agreement between Rodney and me. It’s more fun when we don’t agree.

    For more potential agreements and disagreements and agreements to disagree, tune in weekdays at 6:00 p.m. ET.

    Until then, watch the clip and learn something that you possibly didn’t already know.

    Clip is here, scroll down: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/12/is-chancellors-holdout-selfish-smart-or-both/

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    ESPN.com’s Nick Wagoner on the obstacles teams face in the relocation efforts

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    As expected, the deal will pay him almost $14 million guaranteed. The exact amount of guaranteed money is $13,792,000 and includes a $3 million signing bonus, a fully guaranteed base salary this season of $1,042,500 and a $2 million roster bonus to be paid on Sept. 1.

    So he counts 4 M this year.

    No wonder they didn’t chase any more free agents. They used their remaining cap space on this, and obviously planned to all along.

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