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znModeratorHey PA. I moved your post and mine to this discussion thread:
znModeratorI'm so honored to be heading to the Blue & Gold. It's time for a new era of football in LA, @TideNFL #OurColors #ad pic.twitter.com/iKbUUPY3QL
— Jared Goff (@JaredGoff16) April 29, 2016
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znModeratorCommitment made:
Raiders commit to Vegas, offer $500 million for stadium: 4 things to know
Raiders owner Mark Davis is finally putting his money where his mouth is.
During a presentation in front of the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee (SNTIC) on Thursday, Davis pledged to put $500 million toward a new stadium in Las Vegas if the rest of the funding is ultimately approved by the Nevada State Legislature.
“Together we can turn the Silver State into the silver and black state,” Davis told the SNTIC, via the Associated Press.
Davis’ money would go toward a $1.33 billion stadium project that’s been proposed by the The Las Vegas Sands casino group and Majestic Realty.
The domed-stadium would be built on an empty 42-acre lot that’s literally right next door to McCarran Airport and just blocks from the strip. In the clip below, you can see the airport, followed by the 42-acre stadium site, followed by the strip.
Initial plans for the new stadium call for a 65,000-seat dome that could be built with a retractable roof at an extra cost of about $55 million. The new stadium is tentatively planned to contain 100 luxury suites and 6,000 club seats.
Here’s four things to know about a possible Raiders move.
1. Davis seems dead serious about moving his team.
Davis has been talking about moving the Raiders for years, but for the most part, everything he said came across as an empty threat because there was no viable stadium plan in place.
That’s not the case in Vegas, where Davis is being backed by billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, the man who owns the Sands Casino group. The two have a viable plan in place that would call for $650 million of the stadium to be paid for with private funding.
Out of the $650 million, $150 million would come from Adelson’s group and the rest would come from Davis and the NFL. Of the $500 million that was committed to the project by Davis, $200 million of that would come from league.
Davis and the league offered a total of $600 million to Oakland (with $300 million from the NFL), but the Bay Area city hasn’t figured out a way to fund the rest of a possible new stadium. Oakland has made it clear that public financing isn’t an option there.
In Vegas, the final $680 million in stadium costs would be paid for by a proposed hotel tax that would mostly hit the pocketbook of tourists.
At the end of Thursday’s meeting, Davis made it clear that his team is serious about Vegas.
“We have made a commitment to Las Vegas and that’s where it stands,” Davis said, via ESPN.com. “If Las Vegas can come through, we’ll be the Las Vegas Raiders.”
2. What’s the timeline on a possible move?
This is still up in the air, but things could move fast.
Public funding for the stadium has to be approved by the Nevada State Legislature, and it would likely have a strong chance of going through if the SNTIC recommends it, which seems like almost a foregone conclusion.
The problem for Davis and the Raiders is that the Nevada State Legislature isn’t scheduled to meet again until February. By that time, the Raiders should know if the Chargers are moving to Los Angeles or not.
If the Chargers stay in San Diego, then the Raiders would have the option to move to L.A.
Proponents of the Vegas stadium said on Thursday that they would request a special session of the Nevada State Legislature that would meet in August. If that happens and the funding passes, then this thing could move quickly.
Building the stadium would take about 36 months and Davis said his team would spend that time in Oakland, where they have a lease that allows them to play until 2018. The Raiders would then move to Vegas in time for the 2019 season. To build fan interest for the pending move, the Raiders would “try and play at least one preseason game per year” in Vegas, according to Davis.
Basically, even if everything goes perfectly according to plan for Vegas, the Raiders wouldn’t be playing there until 2019.
3. Will NFL owners back a move to Vegas?
Although NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear on several occasions that the league is staunchly against gambling, he seems to be more and more open to a Vegas move by the day.
Goodell was asked about a possible Raiders move to Vegas while meeting with reporters at the NFL Draft on Wednesday.
“The Raiders were given permission by other clubs to evaluate their options and to consider their alternatives, and they’re doing that,” Goodell said, via the Los Angeles Times. “They know that it’s subject to a vote.”
The Raiders need 24 out of 32 owners to OK their move and if the team gets that, it doesn’t sound like Goodell is going to stand in its way. The Rams, Chargers, Cowboys, Texans and 49ers would all probably favor a move (it would keep the Raiders from potentially landing in their markets), so theoretically, Davis would only need to convince 18 other owners.
Davis also thinks that owners will open their arms to Vegas when they see the stadium proposal.
“We know what the NFL is looking for,” Davis told the SNTIC, via the San Jose Mercury News. “I believe if we give them an offer they can’t refuse and that’s what we are talking about right now, I don’t see a problem. We’ll fight for it.”
4. Where will the Raiders end up?
Davis is going to go wherever he can get the best deal and right now, that seems like Vegas. The sportsbooks in Vegas love putting odds on things, and if there were odds on the Raiders relocation, you’d have to say that Vegas is the new favorite on the board.
Of course, if things fall through in Vegas and the Chargers stay in San Diego, there’s a good chance the Raiders end up in L.A. The one thing to keep in mind with Vegas is that, although Davis is pledging some serious money, he hasn’t signed any sort of contract, which means he can back out of anything at any time.
Despite that, the one thing that’s clear here is that the city with the longest odds right now is the city that the Raiders are already in: Oakland.
The Raiders last played a game in Vegas in 1964, when they played a preseason game in Sin City. Davis doesn’t think he’ll be waiting another 50 years to see his team play there again.
“With your help it won’t be another 50 years before the Raiders play another game in Las Vegas,” Davis said.
As for the Raiders, they weren’t tipping their hand on where they might end up.
“The Raiders would like to thank the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee and Mayor Goodman for their time today as we continue to explore options for a permanent stadium solution,” the team said in a statement. “We appreciate the support and passion of Raiders fans everywhere.”
znModeratorHe resembles Ryan Gosling. I think it is the eyes.
Goff has a quicker release, though. Of the 2. IMO.
znModeratorNick Wagoner @nwagoner
No surprise but after the Rams draft a QB tonight, Nick Foles is expected to be the player to leave. Team is hoping that’s via trade.
League source says “4 or 5” teams have reached out but will need to see how draft plays out over next couple days for deal to come together.
znModeratorNick Wagoner @nwagoner
Some have asked about Rams and S Donte Whitner. Team is hoping for deal but nothing done yet. Team not yet comfortable with price tag.znModeratorWasn’t this the way it worked with Reynolds last year?
They signed him after the draft, I think.
But he apparently knew the details and just waited until the Rams were done with the draft to officially sign.
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znModeratorznModeratorIt’s slow around here, so I decided to complain recreationally. Had fun doing it, too.
Well be careful how you treat the mods Z. Cause you do know what banning here means, right? It means you can NEVER leave.
znModeratorBroncos inquired on Bradford; Eagles not inclined to trade
The Eagles are not inclined to trade their presumptive starting quarterback Sam Bradford despite receiving a preliminary call from the Denver Broncos this week, Conor Orr of NFL.com reports.
Per NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport, the Broncos called the Eagles for a very basic discussion about Bradford. No compensation was discussed, and the main takeaway was that Philadelphia wants to hold on to the former No. 1 overall pick. This, coming hours after an ESPN report that said the 49ers have not had any internal discussions about acquiring Bradford.
znModeratoron the other hand,
This is that kind of discussion.
It’s a “on the other hand” kind of discussion.
znModerator?
Man they ain’t trading Keenum.
They finally get a #2 qb who can actually win some games. They ain’t letting THAT go. The Fisher Rams have learned the hard way that the guy who is the starter in the off-season may not play all 16 games. To be euphemistic about it.
znModeratori still think the rams could surprise everyone and pick wentz who seems to be the underdog.
If he Rams take Wentz I will shave “theramshuddle.com” in the side of my head.
I am more or less prepared for it to be Goff, though if it’s Wentz I will be just fine with it.
To me they’re just completely different flavors. I like Goff now (after initially favoring Wentz), but it’s by a percentage, it’s not night and day. I personally think they will both make good pros, though they will be completely different kindsa animals.
znModeratorJared Goff or Carson Wentz? NFL Insiders cast votes for the draft’s top QB
By ESPN NFL INSIDERS via ESPN Apr 25, 2016, 8:35 AM ET
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/jared-goff-carson-wentz-nfl-insiders-cast-votes/story?id=38648039
By virtually every measure, the top two quarterbacks in the 2016 draft are Cal’s Jared Goff and North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz. The Rams, who last week traded up to snag the No. 1 pick, will meet with both Goff and Wentz ahead of next week’s draft.
But we’re not waiting until next week to make the decision the Rams have to make.
We asked 13 of ESPN’s NFL writers, analysts and front-office experts to pick the best quarterback in the draft, Goff or Wentz, and to explain why one of them is ahead on their draft board. The results are below, and you can cast your vote here.
Team Goff
Mel Kiper Jr., NFL Draft Analyst: Goff and Wentz both have tremendous upside, but it’s a passing league, and my preference is the guy who is the more advanced prospect in that area. Wentz offers a great physical profile, with size, movement skills and arm strength, but Goff comes with a more developed skill set where I need it most. He anticipates well, reads defenses, moves defenders with his eyes, can read the field, and throws strikes both underneath and down the field. It’s a close call, but I give a narrow edge to Goff at this point. What will be most important for each is where they land and how well they are coached up.
Mark Dominik, NFL Front Office Insider: I am a Goff guy. The areas where he needs to develop are all football-related. From a mechanics standpoint, he has the raw tools you look for in young quarterback prospects. Plus, his football intelligence and passion for the game are clear positives. Goff and Wentz can develop into good quarterbacks, but Wentz is in store for a much tougher transition than people realize.
Louis Riddick, NFL Front Office Insider: Goff has superior feet in the pocket, rush awareness, poise and accuracy under pressure. He also has superb decision-making, touch and accuracy at all three levels. This kid took a beating and never flinched. He has a Joe Montana-like presence in his movement and demeanor. He will get bigger and stronger, and his hand-size issues are overblown. He just needs the right pieces around him, and he will have a great career.
Steve Palazzolo, Senior Analyst at Pro Football Focus: Goff is the best quarterback in this draft because he already has the translatable skills necessary to succeed at the next level. He has excellent pocket presence and excels throwing to all levels with quick decision-making and anticipation. Wentz, on the other hand, sometimes lacks timing, throwing late while trying to make up for it with his strong arm. He doesn’t show the same pocket movement or ability to make big throws under pressure that Goff makes regularly. While there are plenty of things to like about Wentz on tape, there is still a lot of projection to his game, and he has to develop more before he has a chance to surpass Goff.
Aaron Schatz, Editor-in-Chief of Football Outsiders: Our QBASE projection system makes it very clear: Goff is by far a better risk than Wentz. Goff has a higher floor and a higher ceiling. QBASE ranks Goff as the No. 9 quarterback prospect of the last two decades. He had far better production than Wentz in college, despite playing in tougher circumstances. By our estimates, Cal played the 30th-toughest schedule of opposing defenses out of 128 teams in FBS last year. Wentz completed fewer passes for fewer yards per attempt against an FCS schedule. Frankly, neither quarterback was surrounded by NFL-caliber talent; Wentz had FCS-level blockers and receivers, but Cal is not Alabama either. Kenny Lawler is the only Cal receiver or lineman projected to be chosen in the first four rounds of this year’s draft.
Steve Muench, NFL Draft Analyst: Goff might need more time to transition, but he has shown the ability to get through progressions and manipulate coverages. He also has the quick feet to effectively drop from under center. While he’s not as much of a threat to scramble as Wentz, Goff has a slight edge in terms of buying time in the pocket and finding the open man when the protection starts to break down, which is an important trait. Goff also has the edge in experience, both in terms of games played and the level of competition he faced. Finally, Goff needs to continue to bulk up and improve his ability to take punishment, but he didn’t miss a college game with an injury. He gets the edge over Wentz.
Kevin Weidl, NFL Draft Analyst: I give the edge to Goff, but it’s close, and there is an argument to be made for both. Goff has one of the smoothest releases I have studied in a while, and he is the more naturally accurate thrower. More important, though, he has better pocket presence, which I believe is one of the most important baseline traits when evaluating quarterbacks. Goff feels pressure naturally and does a nice job of maintaining quality eye level to work through progressions while avoiding the rush. On the flip side, Wentz comes with better measurables, more mobility and comes from a more NFL-friendly offense. Goff and Wentz will need time to develop, but I believe both have the skill set and makeup to become quality starters if they are put in the proper environment to succeed.
John Clayton, Senior NFL Writer: While I think the small-college criticism of Wentz is overrated — a good quarterback is a good quarterback, regardless of the competition — there are several things about Goff I like, including his compact, quick arm release and great accuracy. To some degree, Goff reminds me of Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan. It doesn’t hurt either that Browns coach Hue Jackson knows the Cal program well.
Field Yates, NFL Insider: At the end of the day, neither Goff nor Wentz profiles as a quarterback who will change the fortunes of his new franchise from the first day he takes the field. But when pressed to choose one or the other, I tilt the scales toward Goff, and it comes down to a few traits that stand out on film: exceptional footwork and feel for the pocket, paired with an effortless arm. Enduring a 1-11 season as a freshman at Cal will help him deal with the hardship a rookie quarterback experiences at the NFL level.
Final tally for those in favor of Goff: 9
Team Wentz
Todd McShay, NFL Draft Analyst: From what I’m hearing, I think Los Angeles will take Goff, but I give a slight edge to Wentz. He’s bigger, stronger and more mobile outside the pocket. Though he comes from an FCS school in North Dakota State, the system he played in transfers to the NFL much better than the Air Raid scheme that Goff played in at Cal. Wentz and Goff both have great work ethics and mental/physical toughness, and their natural accuracy translates well to the next level.
Bill Polian, NFL Front Office Insider: This is a tough call. Wentz has size, an excellent arm, a winning track record and outstanding intelligence. The problem is that he has not faced top competition. Goff, on the other hand, has played at the highest level, but Cal wasn’t great and didn’t win many games. He has excellent height and great bloodlines; his father, Jerry, was a pro baseball player. He also has exceptionally quick and active feet, a very fast release and good accuracy. He plays in a pure spread system, and as a result he is often under duress from rushers. He extends plays well and sees and scans the field exceptionally. In the end, the level-of-competition argument favors Goff, and the size argument favors Wentz. If you put a gun to my head and forced me to make a pick, it would be Wentz based on size alone. Then again, if you put the gun down I might change my mind. I think both players have what it takes to succeed in the NFL.
Matt Bowen, NFL Writer: Give me Wentz and his upside. He has the pro size (6-foot-5, 237 pounds), arm strength and footwork that translate to Sundays based on his college tape. Wentz took full advantage of the Senior Bowl practices to showcase his skill set and then followed with a solid workout at the combine. Accuracy, anticipation and the velocity to rip the ball outside of the numbers — he checks all the boxes. This is a tough quarterback, a guy who played in a pro-style, multiple system. He has the football IQ to make the jump. Is he ready to start slinging the ball around as a rookie? I don’t see it — yet. He needs some time before being thrown into the fire. The size and talent, however, are there. And he could be a really good pro if he’s not forced onto the field too early.
Adam Caplan, NFL Insider: When speaking with various NFL executives about both quarterbacks over several weeks, it has become clear that most prefer Wentz over Goff. Wentz has the best tools of any quarterback in this draft in terms of arm strength, size and athleticism. While Wentz played at a much lower level of college football than Goff, evaluators love that he played in a pro-style system, which should help project him well to the next level. That’s not to say that Goff isn’t a solid prospect — he is — but Goff doesn’t possess the same high-end traits as Wentz.
Final tally for those in favor of Wentz: 4
znModeratorPocket presence, performance under pressure make Jared Goff fit for Rams
Nick Wagoner
BRISTOL, Conn. — On Tuesday night, our ESPN NFL Nation reporters participated in the now annual mock draft live on ESPN.
Despite my secret desire to create chaos at the top, I’m sure my selection of Cal quarterback Jared Goff with the first overall pick for the Los Angeles Rams surprised nobody who has been awake or living anywhere above the rocks for the past few weeks. For the record, as I’ve written, I would take North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz in the Rams’ position, but I believe they are going to take Goff, hence the pick.
To be sure, the Rams really like both Goff and Wentz. Coach Jeff Fisher told ESPN’s Shelley Smith that he believes Wentz will “play in a Super Bowl” before his career is over on the day the Rams moved from No. 15 to No. 1 in this year’s draft. Wentz’s size, athletic ability and intelligence are hard to ignore. Crazier things than the Rams taking Wentz have happened in the draft.
But ultimately, the Rams look poised to make Goff the second quarterback they have taken with the first pick in the past seven years. In some ways, taking Goff would be a departure from the Rams’ recent draft preference of opting for the higher ceiling instead of a higher floor.
“I think that when you go pick someone No. 1, ceiling is important, but when you pick someone No. 1, floor is important, too,” general manager Les Snead said on the day the trade was made. “There shouldn’t be a low floor. But yes, ceiling, when you pick No. 1, I think philosophically, you are not necessarily picking for what coach Fisher pencils in for opening day. It’s really what he pencils in for the next decade or so.”
As Fisher and Snead enter their fifth season in charge, there is no doubt the time is now for them to take the next step beyond the mediocrity of their first four seasons and finish with a winning record and playoff berth. From talking to various scouts around the league and draft analysts, Goff appears to be the more pro-ready of the top two quarterbacks. That’s not to say Goff or Wentz isn’t ready to be a significant difference-maker in Year 1, but there’s little doubt that whoever the Rams pick first will play at some point this season, if not in Week 1.
Though Goff didn’t spend any time playing under center at Cal and comes from a spread system, many believe he can play sooner than later based on a few specific skills.
Here’s a look at three areas where Goff looks to have an advantage over Wentz:
His feet: One NFC scout told me that Goff’s feet and pocket presence are advanced well beyond his years. He doesn’t run quite like Wentz, but his feel for pressure allows him to climb the pocket and move laterally to create throwing lanes. And his QBR of 81.6 outside the pocket ranked seventh among qualifying quarterbacks in a Power 5 conference. That ability also helped Goff complete 60 percent of his passes on third or fourth-and-10 or longer with 40 percent of those going for first downs.
His performance under pressure: The Rams’ offensive line is still young and a work-in-progress, so having a quarterback who can keep his eyes down the field and deliver the ball when pressure closes in remains paramount. Goff was as good as any major college quarterback in this area in 2015. Goff was sacked, under duress or hit 24 percent of the time last season. On those plays where the result wasn’t a sack, he completed 45.9 percent of his passes for 7.17 yards per attempt with seven touchdowns and three interceptions. Goff was even better when opponents brought the blitz but didn’t necessarily create pressure. When defenses sent an extra man after him, Goff threw 20 touchdowns on 131 attempts, a rate of 15.3 percent.
His sample size: Though Wentz brings an impressive resume full of wins, he did it in only a season and a half as the starter. Goff, meanwhile, was a three-year starter who led an abysmal Cal team from one win in his first season as a starter to eight wins in 2015. Yes, Wentz played in a pro-style offense and Goff will have to make that adjustment, but Goff has also played more than twice as many snaps. Those are things that would seem to make Goff more ready to play right away, even if he’s got some work to do.
Of course, arguments against Goff and for Wentz could be made as well. But among the factors that could ultimately tip the scales one direction or the other, the signs still point to the Rams calling Goff’s name first on Thursday night.
znModeratorActually the gambling issue doesn’t interest me at all. The moving issue does though.
Sorry I moved the post, Z, I just thought it was a separate topic and that one or the other topic would get buried as a result. Do you want me to move it back here? Not a problem if so.
znModeratorI did not intend to be nitpicky.
Is it “nitpicky” or “nit picky”?
I don’t mean to get…uh…
Naw joking aside this is all fun.
Upshot is, before the trade I was thinking “what about qb?” Now I know there will be one.
Is either Goff or Wentz worth all the picks they traded? Probably not but then having a qb IS worth all the picks they traded, IMO.
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znModeratorHas anyone checked to make sure whether Goff and Wentz
both have two eyes?Goff has THREE eyes.
And, a spidey sense.
znModeratorWell, not sure I understand what you mean by hits and misses if being a starter for two consecutive years is the benchmark for passing. Tim Couch started 59 games over 5 years for the Browns, for example. I would consider Bradford a miss because his performance with the Rams is the reason we moved up to #1 in this draft.
I didn’t mean literally “2.” I just said “consecutive seasons” which means any number of, and that criterion did not stand alone. I also said “the minimum is just a good qb, or even someone who turns out to be one after a rough start with a bad team.”
Since Couch is an obvious bust, then, I should add “and isn’t an obvious bust, like Couch.”
I don’t consider Bradford a miss. First, his performance was just fine when he had both a relatively healthy OL and an actual running thread (which unfortunately with Fisher amounts to only 11 games of 23 started.) He played for a few years except for injuries and then after the injuries when traded played very well in the 2nd half of the 2015 season (and just decent in the first half), enough to earn a top dollar contract and the chance at a trade. That’s not a “miss.” A miss is someone who doesn’t get chances to play again. Another example is Alex Smith. He’s playing well. He’s not a miss.
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znModeratorI dont think i understand what role he
was playing there.Well, what he said was, he knew the agent, and the agent wanted his opinion.
It was a matter of prepping them for the draft, knowing what the agent had, what teams would say about them, and so on. Just being prepared.
He did it as a favor for his agent/friend.
znModeratorOh draft day…come out to PLAY-EH.
Draft day…COME OUT TO PLAY-EH.
znModeratorfrom off the net
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ramsman34
He said he actually worked them both out months ago. Likes where Goff is develomentally but says Wentz should get there pretty quickly. Commented about Goff under duress as impressive and that Wentz hasnt faced as much pressure but is like big Ben in how he stands in and takes it or takes off and runs
Says both are worthy of the 1st & 2nd picks
znModeratori like wenger. i think he’s quality. and i actually like the fact that his strategy isn’t to outspend every other team in europe.
Thanks for the informed response. It helps.
znModeratorJim Miller and Pat Kirwan had a very similar conversation on MTC yesterday. Although, they didn’t go back as far as the 70s for the purposes of their discussion. Similar stats, similar conclusions.
My version fwiw:
Since 1970, when Bradshaw was the first pick in the draft, to 2013 (2013 being far enough back from now to judge), 20 QB’s have been been picked 1st in round 1. Out of those 20 there are only 4 real misses—Couch, Vick (or arguably anyway), Carr, and Russell. So that’s a hit rate of 80%.
Some bounced around and needed 2nd chances (Plunkett, Testeverde, A.Smith, Palmer)…but still, 80%. If you include Vick, the “hit” rate for #1 pick qbs is 85%.
I am counting as a “hit” anyone who was a starter for consecutive years in the league. Doesn’t mean he’s elite, doesn’t mean the team was good enough to be a post-season winner. The minimum is just a good qb, or even someone who turns out to be one after a rough start with a bad team. I am setting the standard where I do without getting into a lot of detailed judgments because it amounts to this—you can win with a good qb and defense in the NFL and what you tend to get, at a minimum, is a good qb with the 1st pick. I wouldn’t be, for example, one of those Baltimore fans who gripes about Flacco or a Giants fan that gripes about Eli. Both are good when their OLs have not fallen completely apart.
znModeratorRoger Goodell ‘confident’ owners would back new Chargers stadium
link: http://yournewsupdate.com/roger-goodell-confident-owners-would-back-new-chargers-stadium-espn/
SAN DIEGO — A year ago, with the San Diego Chargers not interested in a proposal for a new stadium in Mission Valley, the NFL sought a stadium project the team could enthusiastically support.
On Saturday, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell traveled to San Diego at the invitation of Chargers chairman Dean Spanos to attend a rally of about 4,000 fans. Goodell was there to support the start of a signature-gathering effort for a citizens’ initiative effort to build a $1.8 billion stadium and convention center expansion downtown, next to the San Diego Padres’ Petco Park.
After his flirtation with Carson, California, last year, Spanos finally has a stadium plan in San Diego he is enthusiastic about.
“I’m confident that if they can get a stadium built here, the owners will want to support it with a Super Bowl,” Goodell said. “I think that’s what this community deserves, and we’re all going to work to try and find a solution.”
San Diego last hosted a Super Bowl in 2003. The NFL said then that the Super Bowl would not return unless the Chargers replaced dilapidated Qualcomm Stadium.
If the project makes it to the ballot box in November and is approved, Goodell said he believes NFL owners will bring back the Super Bowl to San Diego.
The Chargers have to qualify the measure for the ballot, which requires 66,447 valid signatures certified by the office of the registrar by mid-June, and present it to the San Diego city clerk’s office before ultimately having it approved by the city council.
The city council can either vote to adopt the initiative or place the measure on the ballot. If placed on the ballot, city voters will get an opportunity to vote on the measure during the Nov. 8 presidential election.
The team’s goal is to collect 100,000 signatures over a six-week period, creating a buffer in order to have enough signatures certified.
Goodell also echoed a comment he made at the NFL owners meetings in March: The Chargers belong in San Diego.
“I said that, and I mean it,” Goodell said. “I think the Chargers belong in San Diego. I think this is a great community, a great fan base. Everyone has acknowledged that we need a new stadium.
“The great thing I love about this proposal is it’s more than a stadium. You’re addressing not only the stadium, but you’re addressing needs with the convention facility. And the NFL needs to support this community and the effort. We don’t make the decisions. This is for the community to make, but we certainly want to be part of that solution.”
Along with Goodell, former Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson and the current team’s best player, Philip Rivers, addressed the rowdy audience.
Spanos made the rounds, shaking hands, signing autographs and taking selfies with fans — a stark contrast from last season, when he spent most game days in his owner’s box avoiding contact from fans angry with the team’s decision to pursue a new stadium in partnership with the Oakland Raiders in Carson.
“We’re committed to follow this thing through,” Spanos said. “I’m optimistic and obviously overwhelmed today. I’m encouraged, but we still have a long ways to go.”
San Diego mayor Kevin Faulconer was conspicuously absent, along with city attorney Jan Goldsmith and members of the San Diego city council. Faulconer has said he’s still in the information-gathering stage, sending the team a detailed letter with specific questions he wanted answered about the proposal.
“I have every confidence that this will be on the ballot in November,” Faulconer told Xtra 1360 Fox Sports Radio this week. “I think the team is going to get the signatures that it needs. So we’ve got to make sure that here in the interim time we’re doing our job, and that’s something that I’m not only spending a significant amount of time on, but making sure we’re asking the right questions.”
If the measure gets on the ballot, Faulconer said the project is the largest proposed bond offering in the city’s history.znModeratorthere is growing sentiment within the NFL that fellow owners are opening up to Las Vegas and granting Davis his wish to move there should he request it.
I keep hearing that, that the league would approve it.
znModeratorBroncos inquired about Sam Bradford
The Denver Broncos have reached out to the Philadelphia Eagles to inquire about a trade for disgruntled quarterback Sam Bradford, Mike Klis of 9News in Denver reports. This per an NFL source.
According to Klis the Eagles price was too high. Bradford’s agent Tom Condon said his client has not been granted permission to seek a trade.
Bradford has missed two seasons with a torn ACL and six games of another with an ankle injury.
His salary could be an issue for the Broncos as he is fully guaranteed to make $18 million this year.
znModeratorMartz doesn’t say much new, though it’s worth listening to.
He got to work both qbs out because he knows their agent. That’s interesting.
znModeratorShit Academics Say @AcademicsSay
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Optimist: It gets better
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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, statistically significant.
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Monday. An unfortunate byproduct of the social construction of time.
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I like my similes like I like my coffee: utilizing tenuous equivalencies for the sake of humor and/or irony.
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What doesn’t bore you, makes you a scholar.
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Things I love: lists, the Oxford Comma and irony
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You don’t bring an anecdote to a data fight.
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znModeratorMy take on this—bringing in a rookie behind him is one thing, and trading 3 1st rounders for the 2nd pick in the draft is another.
Any qb in his right mind knows that a team trading away 3 first rounders is going to go with their investment. We know that, the teams know that, he knows that. He’s now placeholding, like Warner was with the Giants in 04.
So Bradford knows full well that under those conditions, the team would actually have to be insane to treat that situation like actual competition. So his contract is no longer a 1-year “prove it” deal, it’s a “placehold till we promote our expensive 1st rounder” deal. There’s no honest genuine real “prove it” to that deal any more.
I think Warner went into a bad situation in NY in 04, too.
Bradford has only so many years left and he wants to be in a situation where he can at least compete to start. That is never going to happen with the Eagles. Not really. In fact the Eagles would look like idiots if they treated it like a real competition.
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