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znModeratorI made the mistake of watching good football
Why in god’s name would you do that to yourself.
Surely “Home Alone” is on, or…something.
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znModerator. just needs the right coaching.
It doesn’t even have to be THAT. (To push it far to the other side.)
He just needs a running game.
IMO.
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December 25, 2016 at 3:52 pm in reply to: does SF just have the Rams number now, like Rams with Seattle? #61748
znModeratorone of my lowest moments as a rams fan. and there have been many.
That’s right you were at the game.
Sorry about that. If it were up to me, it would have gone better.

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znModeratorbut the 2016 defense did not have jenkins and mcleod. and to a lesser extent long. laurinaitis was just about done at that point so i don’t think that made a difference.
i think a healthy quinn. i think a healthy quinn. a dominant quinn would have been the difference but he was not that. so losing jenkins and mcleod hurt even more
I agree with that, but, I think JL was less physically effective and more mentally effective.
BUT I still think they are a playoff caliber D.
What we saw yesterday IMO was mostly the effect of being on the field too much in the 3rd and 4th quarters.
December 25, 2016 at 2:52 pm in reply to: Fassel, Goff, Austin, Britt, Gurley, Donald … 12/24… transcripts #61740
znModeratorwe don’t even have a first round pick…
In a year where arguably the draft is deepest at the positions of the Rams greatest needs.
Count me from now through to week 1 2017 as one of the less adamantly concerned posters here.
That way at least the conversation will have a lot of diversity and balance.
znModeratorI don’t think the defense is great but it is playoff caliber. I think the collapses we see at the end of games and against teams like Atlanta have to do with coaching and the defense getting worn down. When you play teams with high powered offenses like Atlanta and NE your defense has to get some help from its offense but Rams’ offense is historically bad.
I agree more with this than with the more alarmist take.
Except unlike you I also think that the right adjustments could make this team playoff caliber overnight.
Not promising it, just not ruling it out.
This is not the end of the 2011 season Rams. This is something different.
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znModeratorIt just so critical that Kronky get some quality topnotch PERSONNEL advice.
I mean who should they keep? Who should they jettison? Who should they draft? Who should they sign in free-agency?Do we trust Snead to be able to do the job?
If I’m billionaire Kronky, I’m hiring three separate, distinct, Personnel evaluaters, and I’m giving them a million dollars each and I’m telling them scout the Rams and tell me what to do.
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vWell SK won’t be doing that. For good reason. Any new coach is going to want to decide for himself who to keep and who not to, who will play better in better circumstances and who won’t.
If an owner starts intruding on that, that right there alone is one of the biggest red flags he could possibly send to any prospective coaching hire.
An owner who takes personnel decisions on himself? That would be BAD. It would be SEEN as bad.
znModeratorThings are going well.
The game aside.
Best wishes to everyone.
znModeratorI hate to say it but the defense just isn;t the same without Quinn, Long, Laurinaitis, Jenkins, and McCleod. Basically they lost 5 starters. And now Alexander is out too.
Now granted the defense came through for most of 3 quarters. But a couple of times now, they have caved in the 4th quarter with the game on the line. They actually won a couple this year with the game on the line in the 4th but not anymore.
To be honest that bothers me more than the offense typically stalling out after the 1st quarter.
znModeratorI honestly dont think there will be tremendous turnover next year. I think it will be more a case of adding players and changing things up than subtracting.
But this game really pizzed me off. It;s the defense, allowing 2 touchdowns at the end of how many games now?
znModeratorRams focusing on lower-profile candidates to replace Jeff Fisher
Adam Schefter
While much of the speculation related to the Los Angeles Rams’ head-coaching search has been centered on high-profile names such as Jon Gruden and Jim Harbaugh, the team’s focus so far has been on several NFL assistant coaches, league sources told ESPN.
The Rams have looked into Miami Dolphins defensive coordinator Vance Joseph and Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Anthony Lynn, who square off Saturday in Buffalo, as well as offensive coordinators Josh McDaniels of the Patriots and Kyle Shanahan of the Falcons, sources said.
The Rams have cast a wide net to find a replacement for the fired Jeff Fisher, and are not zeroing in on the more popular coaching candidates.
Earlier this week, Gruden said that he’s “very happy doing what I’m doing” as an analyst on ESPN’s Monday Night Football.
“Right now, I have no intentions of coaching,” Gruden said on ESPN’s “Mike & Mike” radio show. “I really enjoy what I’m doing and I feel like I’m really close to the fire and I’m getting plenty of satisfaction out of doing what I’m doing.”
Harbaugh said earlier this month at the team’s annual banquet that he had no intentions of leaving the Michigan Wolverines.
“I’m not leaving Michigan,” Harbaugh said. “I’m not even considering it.”
znModeratorSean Payton reportedly has ‘sincere interest’ in Rams, Ron Rivera in rumor mill
Will Brinson
The Los Angeles Rams got an early start on their coaching search when they fired Jeff Fisher following Week 14’s humiliating home loss to the Falcons. There are some big names being bandied about as possible candidates — including Jon Gruden, who might just be a perfect fit in L.A. despite his protests to the contrary — but the Rams, as CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora reported Saturday, are also looking at some more under-the-radar names.
Two names from way out in left field that were floated on Saturday by NFL.com: Sean Payton of the Saints and … Ron Rivera of the Panthers?
The two NFC South coaches were mentioned independently of one another. Payton has been a name that has previously been associated with the Rams, primarily because the Saints aren’t expected to ask for much in a trade exchange.
Payton, per Ian Rapoport of NFL.com, “is monitoring with sincere interest” what the Rams do with their coaching position. The possibility of Payton to the Rams was described as “not imminent or likely but ‘possible.'”
The Rivera thing is really out there. Just last June, the Panthers coach signed a new extension with the club and got a huge raise after taking Carolina to the Super Bowl. Rivera is comfortable in Carolina and well-liked within the club and the community.
Here’s the logic from NFL.com: the Rams are “in need of discipline in a city with a large Hispanic population” and he would qualify as a “splash hire.”
The biggest problem here? The Panthers aren’t going to give up Rivera for nothing. Oh wait, no that’s the second-biggest problem. The biggest problem, as pointed out in the original report is it’s “not certain Rivera would want to leave Carolina.”
There are many hurdles here, honestly.Los Angeles already lost its first-round pick next year to the Tennessee Titans after trading up to land Jared Goff. That’s going to be a top-10 pick barring the Rams winning out.
Rivera might get asked about this in the next 24 hours — it’s wouldn’t be surprising if he answered a question about the rumor with a high level of disdain.
Everything is in play during the silly season that is coaching searches and rumors, but it’s highly unlikely the Rams are poaching Rivera from the Panthers this offseason. Even Payton is a stretch considering the requirements to make it happen.
znModeratorWell, i thought that was positively awful. I didnt
understand a word of it.Therefore, i think you should commit
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vWell sometimes, I post em before I watch em. And frankly that one was confusing.
And I can’t commit Harry Carey. I think he’s already been committed.

znModeratorKyle Shanahan and the Evolution of a Young Coach
Albert Breer
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/06/kyle-shanahan-nfl-coaching-carousel-list-notebook
Coaching is fun again for Kyle Shanahan, although for a much different reason than it was almost a decade ago when he called his first NFL play.
“When I started in Houston, those first two years, it was so much fun,” the Falcons’ offensive coordinator said, driving home Tuesday night. “We were third and fourth in the league those years—Matt Schaub was at the top of his game; we had Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels, Kevin Walter. We had a ton of success. It was all I knew. We threw it a ton. And after coaching those guys, I thought I could do it with anyone.
“Then I got to Washington. Different quarterbacks, different personnel, I had to do it different with Donovan [McNabb] and Rex [Grossman], and completely different with Robert [Griffin]. And I learned you have to find different ways to succeed. In Cleveland I had to adjust. In Atlanta we’re running different stuff. I’m fortunate enough to have experienced hard times and be forced to find different ways.”Every year it happens earlier. Every year it seems to be harder to find candidates.
So I give you Kyle Shanahan. The 36-year-old is now in his ninth season as an offensive coordinator. He’s served in that role for four different teams. And not only is this Falcons group on pace to be the sixth of those nine units he’s guided into the Top 10 in total offense, and fourth he’s landed in the Top 5, but it’s so good that it may just erase the perception problem its architect has fought for years.
Matt Ryan, Julio Jones and company are averaging 478.8 yards per game, which is 83.0 yards better than anyone else. Ryan leads the NFL in yards, TDs, passer rating and completion percentage. Jones is leading the league in receiving yards, but the Faclons also have diversified, with five guys registering more than 10 catches. And Atlanta is sixth in rushing offense, with Devonta Freeman averaging 5.9 yards per carry.
Those are the nuts and bolts. But now, all these years after first becoming a play-caller at the age of 28, a wiser Shanahan knows there’s more to the step he may well take come winter than the fireworks we’ve seen from the Falcons’ offense.And that’s why he was a little hesitant to even talk about himself the other night. But yes, he understands that he—like a lot of others who work in the family business and rise to prominence at a young age, in any line of work—hasn’t always been perceived in the most positive light.
“Everyone has their own opinion,” he said. “I don’t think a lot of people know me. There are misconceptions. I know it’s not all great. But I can’t control it. I’ve gotten better, trying not to worry about it as much. I know I’m a good person. I know I’m honest with people. As a coordinator, things don’t always go as well with every single play. I don’t hide things.”So there were the highly publicized issues with McNabb and Griffin in D.C. There were the comments from Roddy White in March. And usually, the buzzword—nepotism—was attached to them.
Then there’s the other side of it. How Alex Mack followed him to Atlanta. How Grossman trailed him from Houston to Washington. How Kirk Cousins felt about him. How Ryan and Jones have thrived, the same way Schaub and Johnson once did.
“He’s extremely smart and extremely competitive,” said one high-ranking official from a rival team who knows Shanahan well. “He learned a lot from the Washington and Cleveland experiences. He’s got a good mind for putting players in positions to succeed and using them to their strengths.” One of his former quarterbacks echoed the sentiment, calling Shanahan a “very smart guy. Always has his mind on football.”
As such, Shanahan’s system has evolved—and in regards to the idea of nepotism, it never really was a mirror image of his dad’s system. He took most of a complex passing game, at least early on, from his time with Jon Gruden in Tampa, which he then melded with famed line coach Alex Gibbs’s run game in Houston.
It’s grown since, as Shanahan adjusted it for different personnel.
In Atlanta it’s meant an early focus on the short, precision game that Ryan excels with, and growing options around Jones, which helped set the stage for the sixth-year star’s intergalactic day against Carolina on Sunday.“People talk about players fitting a system—that’s overrated,” Shanahan said. “Good players fit everyone’s system, a good player will fit your system. Julio fits any system. Our tight ends, Mohamed Sanu, Matt Ryan, they should fit your system. So what is our system? Yeah, we have outside zone, and play-action and keepers off it.
“But coaches need to adjust their system. It changes game-to-game, year-to-year. You see New England, if it’s [Tom] Brady, they’re not running [the quarterback] keeper, but you have the other two running bootlegs. You have to match what your guys do, and make it work for them. That’s how you give everyone the best chance.”
That is the result of experience Shanahan couldn’t have had back in Houston, and it should make him a hot commodity in a few months, so long as the Falcons can keep it going.
With Shanahan on the top tier, and here are a few other names to keep an eye on:READY FOR THEIR SHOT
Bengals defensive coordinator Paul Guenther: He was once a college head coach, and he served as Mike Zimmer’s right hand man, which certainly won’t hurt.
Panthers defensive coordinator Sean McDermott: Was in the running for the Tampa and Cleveland jobs last year and has harvested a ton of young talent in Charlotte.
Redskins offensive coordinator Sean McVay: The man many compare to Jon Gruden is just 30, and has moxie, intelligence and the development of Cousins on his résumé.
Patriots defensive coordinator Matt Patricia: At 42 he’s led Bill Belichick’s D for seven seasons, and is a cerebral type who could appeal to a team like Jacksonville.Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley: As is the case with Shanahan, Haley’s rep needed some repair, but it’s impossible to argue with the results in Pittsburgh.
Jaguars offensive line coach Doug Marrone: Many I’ve spoken to are leery of Marrone, based on his Buffalo exit and his personality, but he’ll likely get interviews.
Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels: Jimmy Garoppolo’s development puts McDaniels over the top, and it’s easy to see Tennessee and Detroit as matches.
Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz: The job he did in Buffalo in 2014 combined with the one he’s doing in Philly make him an easy inclusion here.
COLLEGE COACHES WORTH A CALL
Jimbo Fisher, Florida State: He’s developed three first-round quarterbacks and tons more NFL talent, and is said to be open to a move. And his system is pro-style.
Jim Harbaugh, Michigan: The answer may be no, but that won’t stop the asking.
znModeratorWhat happens when the NFL’s worst offense (Rams) faces the worst defense (49ers)?
By RICH HAMMOND
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-739325-game-49ers.html
LOS ANGELES – To the hopeful, it could have been a blip. It turned out to be a premonition.
The Rams completely flopped in their much-anticipated Sept. 12 season opener. It seemed to be their one certain victory of the season, against a presumably awful San Francisco team, but the Rams never reached the 49ers’ red zone, totaled only 185 yards and lost 28-0 at Levi’s Stadium.
The world was correct about the 49ers. They have gone 0-13 since that win over the Rams, who never really bounced back. They get a (small) chance at redemption in Saturday’s rematch at the Coliseum.
“No matter what their record is, or ours is,” Rams offensive lineman Rodger Saffold said this week, “you can always expect a good game.”
Well, that’s optimistic. The Rams and 49ers have, respectively, the worst offense and defense in the NFL. It’s can’t-score vs. can’t-stop, and hopefully for the hearty fans in the stands, it won’t be can’t-watch.
Both teams have long since turned their thoughts to 2017. The Rams, soon, will have a new coach, and the 49ers might as well. Coach Chip Kelly’s first season has been a disaster, and the glory of that September victory over the Rams has been totally tarnished by a three-month losing streak.
Things got only marginally better for the Rams, who are trying to avoid falling to 4-11. It’s been a dismal offensive season, and in retrospect, the San Francisco opener provided major hints of what was to come.
The Rams failed to record a first down on eight of their 14 series. They went 3 for 12 on third-down attempts. Quarterback Case Keenum didn’t complete a pass longer than 22 yards. Running back Todd Gurley gained only 47 yards and, in what would become a trend, the Rams gave up on him early. Gurley totaled eight carries in the Rams’ initial four series, then only nine carries in their final 10 series.
These issues – low scoring, third-down failures, no deep-passing game, no consistent run game – largely led to the firing of Coach Jeff Fisher, but Saffold said he didn’t see an early beginning to the end.
“No, because we ended up winning three straight, so obviously that had nothing to do with it,” Saffold said.
Yes, the Rams did go on a three-game winning streak, but in two of those victories – over Seattle and Arizona – they scored a total of two touchdowns (The other victory, 37-32 over Tampa Bay, legitimately was one of the Rams’ best offensive games of the season).
Saffold followed with a solid point, that in September, the 49ers played their first regular-season game under new defensive coordinator Jim O’Neil. The Rams had no film on a 49ers defense under O’Neil, and now they have nearly a full season’s worth, but will it make a difference?
The Rams will play their second game under interim coach John Fassel, who had only three days to prepare for last week’s loss to Seattle. Fassel left his mark, though, as the Rams faked a punt and went for it on fourth down deep in Seattle territory.
Neither play worked, but given that little has worked for the Rams offense this season, and that this game essentially is meaningless for both teams, look for the Rams to open up things again.
Quarterback Jared Goff could get to take more shots down the field and, against a weak 49ers run defense, Gurley might be able to top 100 yards for the first time this season.
“I would anticipate us being as aggressive, if not more aggressive,” Fassel said. “Because, why not? We have to go for it. We have to make seven (points) instead of three when we’re on offense. We have to have our time of possession be over 30 (minutes), at least.
“Those are opportunities – converting short-yardage, especially fourth downs – to keep the ball in our hands, to tack on minutes to our time of possession and try to get touchdowns.”
A penultimate game between two teams with a combined record of 5-23 will come down to motivation.
Whether the Rams finish with six victories, or five or four, holds little importance. It’s now a pride thing for the Rams, and particularly for an offense that is last in the NFL in points and yards and, presumably, doesn’t want to be embarrassed by the 49ers again.
“This team, there’s no quit in us, which is good,” Saffold said, “but we’ve got to find a reason to keep being resilient. This is a big-time rivalry game and it’s always a physical game, so you have to be excited about that, at least.”
znModeratorThe Way We Hear It: Kyle Shanahan is a frontrunner for the Rams job
By PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY STAFF
According to our sources, unlike Jacksonville and the Bills, the Rams’ head-coaching search is likely to be much more protracted and involve a number of top candidates.
The Way We Hear It, that search will absolutely not involve Jim Harbaugh or Pete Carroll, in spite of what a number of wishful thinkers continue to write for various other outlets.
We have not spoken directly to Harbaugh but we do know that his love affair with the University of Michigan is genuine. While it would not be at all surprising to see him take a run at another Super Bowl down the road, he is definitely not going anywhere before beating Ohio State, winning Big Ten Championships and taking a real run at a national title with his beloved Maize and Blue.
Harbaugh has plenty of time left for the NFL, but it won’t be coming any time soon.
Carroll is perfectly content in Seattle, under contract through 2019 on a deal he just extended this past summer, and considering the Raiders got two first-round picks, two second-rounders and $8 million for Jon Gruden 15 years ago, what exactly do you think Carroll would cost the Rams, who don’t have a one or a three in 2017 thanks to the Jared Goff deal?
What we are hearing right now is that the early leader in the clubhouse for the Rams job is Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.
Shallow as it may seem, Shanahan is young, good-looking and energetic, which will be job requirements in Los Angeles.
More importantly, he has impeccable coaching bloodlines from his Super Bowl winning dad. At the age of 37, he already is one of the most experienced offensive coordinators in the league, having run the show in Houston, Washington, Cleveland and now Atlanta. He also has a reputation as the kind of quarterback whisperer that Goff badly needs.
Shanahan happens to be represented by Marvin Demoff, whose son Kevin is in his fifth season as Executive V.P. Football Operations and COO of the Rams, so negotiations can be conducted at the dinner table over the holidays with no fear of tampering violations going public.
We’re not accusing, we’re just saying.
znModeratorhttp://www.rebelcircus.com/blog/loners-are-more-intelligent-and-loyal-friends-says-study/
Loners get a bad rap for not having any friends. While loners do prefer solitude, they don’t necessarily dislike friendships. In fact, a new study has concluded that loners actually make the best friends. Since a loner doesn’t care about others’ opinion, they actually tend to be more loyal to their friends. Loners value the few friends that they have, and behave in a way that will keep them around.
December 23, 2016 at 11:57 pm in reply to: D'Marco Farr said, they are benching 2 players. Robinson and Wichmann #61646
znModeratorI guess Donnal beat out Wichmann and this sort of makes it official? Wasn’t Wichmann the starter for a time?
For most of the season ROG was either Wichmann or Brown, mostly Wichmann.
Donnal started there in both the Atlanta and Seattle games.
But I guess what this means is that with Robinson down, Saffold goes to LOT, and then Brown replaces him at guard, not Wichmann.
That’s just a guess.
December 23, 2016 at 9:40 pm in reply to: D'Marco Farr said, they are benching 2 players. Robinson and Wichmann #61630
znModeratorAt 5:40, D’Marco Farr said, they are benching 2 players on the offensive line. Robinson and Wichmann are out.
? Wichman hasn’t played. The ROG has been Donnal.
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znModeratorJesus Christ.
Some things that get said are just breath-taking.
Or hit too close to home.
Dude, stay away from that kind of cheap retort. Not looking for a response. (In fact I will just delete any response to this.) Just try to come up with arguments, not grade school taunts.
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znModeratorits proxies in Lebanon, like Hezbollah,
Jeeez usss H
I am not the secretary of state but even I know that reducing hezbollah to a proxy of iran is just monumentally blind-stupid.
I wish the board had a “correct the idiots in power” function.
Just click it once….
December 23, 2016 at 2:33 pm in reply to: Watched movie "Passengers" starring Lawrence and Pratt #61604
znModeratorScience Vs. Cinema short on PASSENGERS
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/76940
Longtime fans of this column know that I have a basic credo when it comes to science in movies: “You can bend the rules to tell a better story, but it had better be well justified, and don’t get unnecessary things wrong.” In short, don’t be a dumbass. Don’t make the kind of movie that the more you know, the less you like the movie. Sadly, PASSENGERS fails my test spectacularly. The movie is filled with science defying bullshit for no good reason. And beyond that, the writing is bad — developments happen for no other reason than that they needed to happen that way in the script.
The setup is that there are 5000 passengers and 200+ crew going on a 120 year journey to colonize a planet named HOMESTEAD II. They are supposed to be in hibernation until the last few months, but one passenger, played by Chris Pratt, wakes up early due to a malfunction. Eventually a second passenger, played by Jennifer Lawrence, wakes up too. The duo are facing 90 years together, alone the ship.
IF IT AIN”T BAROQUE, DON’T FIX IT
This ship is the opposite of everything we’ve seen in modern Earth spaceships. While the spacecraft we know are small, light, cramped affairs designed by engineers, the vessel in PASSENGERS is the space equivalent of a cruise ship, complete with a swimming pool, bar, luxury suites, shopping and restaurants. Of course the reason spacecraft have to be so light is that it takes a lot of energy to launch someone into space. That means taking a lot of fuel, which is heavy, and requires more fuel.
We’ve built bigger facilities for longer stays — I’ve been in NASA’s mockup of the International Space Station, and it is as long as a football field, complete with different modules and even little closet-sized bedrooms. That’s a special case though — the ISS can afford to be a little bigger because it doesn’t go anywhere. Once you’ve launched the pieces, it doesn’t cost any extra energy to orbit the Earth, aside from a tiny bit for occasionally dodging space debris or lifting it higher after the tenuous upper atmosphere drags it down.
If you want to accelerate a ship, everything changes. Now you have to pay energy, and if you want to accelerate it to 50% of the speed of light, the cruising speed in the film, you have to pay an enormous amount of energy. Assuming this ship has about the mass of a cruise liner on Earth, you have to generate as much energy as the sun puts out in a few seconds, integrated over its whole surface, over all wavelengths of light. That’s a lot!
The energy source in the film seems to be a fusion reactor, the second, the most efficient energy source outside of matter/antimatter reactions. Even so, given the size of the fusion reactor shown in the film, it isn’t nearly enough.
Since being on a luxury liner is essential to the plot, and the filmmakers sort of dodged the implausibility by using an advanced fuel source, I’ll reluctantly give them a pass on this. I still wish they had just made the ship smaller, less extravagant, and used an antimatter reactor.
GRAVITY FAIL
The ship generates artificial gravity by spinning. This trick used by decades of science fiction authors is on solid ground. I reviewed the physics of it in my Science Vs. Cinema article and video on THE MARTIAN, so I won’t repeat it here. The twist is that in PASSENGERS, the part of the ship with gravity isn’t a ring, it is a discontinuous helix. The helix part is fine — this will still generate artificial gravity. But why break it into sections? You could say that it contains your losses in the case of catastrophic failure. That’s fine, but airlocks between sections would do the same thing. The problem with the discontinuous helix is that people need to take zero-g elevators to get between sections, and elevator are very failure prone. Imagine one lasting for 120 years! The design principle for space travel is to minimize moving parts and keep things simple wherever you can. The real reason for the discontinuous helix here is because it “looks cool” and so that there can be some elevator scenes. To me the drawbacks of the idea aren’t worth it for so little gain.
There is a scene where Jennifer Lawrence is swimming in a pool and gravity fails, causing the water to form a ball and rise out of the pool. Then gravity just switches back on suddenly, causing the water all to splash down. It wouldn’t work like this! In space, since there is not air resistance, once you start something rotating, it will keep rotating until you actively stop it. Imagine having a cruise ship worth of mass on a giant arm swinging around. Even if you fired some rockets to stop the rotation, it would take forever to slow it to a stop. During that time gravity would gradually decrease. The same thing goes for starting it back up. So everyone on the ship should have had plenty of time to realize something was going on with the gravity.
Yes, it is true that water in space tends to cling to itself from surface tension, and form a sphere. However, it also clings to other stuff, like walls or astronaut’s faces. If you shut off gravity, this giant mass of water would stay clinging to the inside of the swimming pool, at least for a while, rather than just magically levitating. It takes energy to lift that much water. Remember Newton’s First Law: things at rest tend to stay at rest.
I get wanting to have a cool movie visual like that. Fine, just say they have some future tech to generate gravity. Don’t try to do it on a rotating ship!
A KICK IN THE ASTEROIDS
The thing that breaks the ship is revealed in the first scene — it hit some asteroids. There are so many problems with this. First, you don’t just run across random asteroids in space — they are only around stars. At this point the ship is around 15 lightyears out, and we know about all stars that far away — you can’t accidentally hit one. Haven’t they made this trip before? Second, even in an asteroid belt the density of asteroids is very low — not like we see on screen. If you are standing on an asteroid in the asteroid belt, you can’t even see another asteroid. The chances of hitting an asteroid accidentally are astronomically low — we regularly send probes through the asteroid belt all the time without hitting one, and we’re aiming right at it.
But the real kicker is the energies involved. The ship is running into the asteroid at half the speed of light. Even a tiny asteroid, say one with only the mass of a person (100 kg), would generate an explosion of 1018 Joules. That’s equivalent to twenty times the energy of the most powerful nuclear weapons ever tested by the US. It wouldn’t just knock out a system here or make a little hole — the whole ship would have been vaporized.
Also, I don’t buy the fact that all this goes undetected by the ship’s software for so long. Our heroes just stumble upon a giant hole in the ship when they open a door into the vacuum of space. If big parts of the ship are failing, surely this thing that can automate bartending and breakfast has a diagnostic for that, and a contingency plan that includes waking the crew.
I get it that you need an inciting incident here. Just make it a plausible one. A computer glitch or factory defect would have been fine.
ARC TO ARCTURUS
For no good reason, the ship makes a “slingshot” maneuver around Arcturus, and happens to make an announcement to everyone on board to go to the window and look, even though they are all supposed to be asleep. At this point, they have been on the ship for 30 years or so, so they are about 15 lightyears away from Earth. The problem is that Arcturus is 36 lightyears away, so they wouldn’t have reached it yet. Why name the star the wrong thing? Just pick one at the right distance!
But it is worse than that — slingshotting around stars won’t help you. They got this idea from the fact that probes in our solar system often slingshot around other planets, like Jupiter, to pick up speed. But that speed comes from the angular momentum of Jupiter orbiting the Sun, not from Jupiter’s gravity. Stars are orbiting the center of the galaxy, but there is no appreciable difference between the speed of Arcturus and the Sun, so that doesn’t help you. And if you are going half the speed of light already, whizzing near a star won’t even change your course all that much. Think about photons from background stars passing near the Sun. Their positions are deflected slightly from the mass of the Sun, as was determined in measurements taken during the solar eclipse of 1919, which confirmed Einstein’s theory of relativity. Even though photons those photons were very close to the Sun, they were barely deflected.
CHRIS PRATT PHONE HOME
There’s a scene where Chris Pratt sits down to make a call back to Earth. He records his message, but after he sends it, he’s surprised to find out that it will take 19 years to reach Earth. This is such a dumb scene, and it epitomizes everything wrong with the movie. First, every passenger knows they are traveling lightyears away. Nobody would be stupid to take such a trip without knowing the stakes. Later, they even establish the fact that he knew this before he left, *and* that he’s a super-smart engineer. They put in this phone call scene just for a cheap laugh, even though it makes no sense and undermines the character and plausibility of the story.
INTERSTELLAR TITANIC
Ok, so you wake up 90 years too early. This ship is programmed to turn everything on when it detects a person running around, but doesn’t have basic checks to understand that this should not happen. You burn all the lights on this whole ship, keep a massive atmosphere warm, run the air scrubbers, run the fountains, fill the pool, just for one guy? These things weren’t designed to run for 90 years, they were designed to run for only a few months at the end. All his screwing around could doom everyone.
In the case of a catastrophic failure, the crew isn’t designed to be woken up? Even worse, they are placed behind vault-like doors only openable with an electronic key. If that reader fails, is everyone doomed?
A key point here is that the ship doesn’t have the equipment to put people back into hibernation. Why would it have a swimming pool and not that very critical piece of infrastructure? They say there are duplicate parts for everything, except of course the one critical piece of infrastructure they need.
When characters make decisions and plot developments happen that make no sense, but have to happen that way to further the story, we have a phrase for this — bad writing.
PRATT EX MACHINA
Now I’m going to spoil some plot twists, so skip to the conclusion if you don’t want to know.
Chris Pratt’s character does something pretty unconscionable — he wakes up Jennifer Lawrence’s character early because he thinks she is pretty and he is lonely. This effectively dooms her to live out her life with only him, because there’s no way she can go back into hibernation. He doesn’t tell her the truth, and sleeps with her. She eventually finds out, of course, and wants nothing to do with him. That isn’t quite rape and it isn’t quite murder, but it is a whole new level of science fiction violation that we don’t even have on this planet — kind of like being kidnapped and held against your will for life.
This could have been an interesting moral dilemma — he had to chose to rob someone of their future and manipulate them to please himself. And then she had to choose whether or not she could forgive the only other person she would ever see in her life. However, any moral complexity is washed away when the ship starts failing, and Chris Pratt just happens to be an engineer who knows how to fix everything. So see, it was all ok in the end, because he saved the ship. Maybe he screwed over one person, but he saved more than 5000, so all is forgiven. The resolution to this moral quandary is just that the asteroid-induced-failures got lucky and woke up exactly the right guy!
The coincidences don’t stop there. The critical ship failures happen more than year after the initial accident, just because that’s when it script calls for it. And they waited until a crew member played by Laurence Fishburne wakes up for no other reason than to give some critical exposition, then dies when the script calls for it again.
CONCLUSION
PASSENGERS had an intriguing concept, but failed to deliver on the promise of it. Character decisions and plot developments feel artificial and unearned. Nothing about this universe feels authentic. I don’t know how much of this is due to the writer, Jon Spaihts, whose worked I liked on DOCTOR STRANGE, but didn’t care for on PROMETHEUS. I’m sure some blame is due to the director, Morten Tyldum, which is a shame because I liked his work in THE IMITATION GAME. In the end, if either had talked more scientists, I think the movie would have been a hell of a lot better. The failures could have been avoided. And this is a case where I think having a big budget hurt the film. The could have made a very interesting movie if the leads had been a bit less perfect looking, if they didn’t have enough money to overdesign the ship, or they didn’t have studio pressure to have a certain type of ending.
znModeratorFirstly it’s not like Fisher had to do the logistics
Well on that, he directly says he was heavily involved AND if he had it to do over would have delegated more of that stuff.
In fact that kind of thing continued far into the season…he mentions that when on the New England road trip, he spent 2 hours that Saturday with the Patz stadium architects.
His words were, he was always looking out for the players, which I took to mean his involvement with the planning was to continually ensure at every stage that the players’s interests were account for. Meeting with the architects, for example, could (in those terms) entail going over ways to make a new facility more player-oriented and/or friendly.
He basically said he was doing all that at the expense of coaching…which, since he says if he could do it over he would delegate more, I took as an admission of a certain kind of failure on his part.
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znModeratorWell, fwiw Demoff says they won’t be reactionary in their choice. He says the tendency when choosing a new coach is to get the opposite of what you had before from a philosophical standpoint, i.e. go for an offensive minded guy if you just fired a defensive minded guy and vice versa.
I personally think that as usual, KD came out saying “the right things,” but then SK came in and started dictating his preferences, and all of KD’s nice principles went out the window.
So I agree more with this:
On the other hand, Fisher’s extension wasn’t announced because of a fear it would upset the fans and Fisher was fired before the end of the season to appease the fans, so this front office is quite capable of basing decisions on the public’s whimsy instead of sound football reasoning.
znModeratorMaybe we’ll end up with divided colleges. Leftwing University and Rightwing University, etc. The country is divided – how can we NOT have all kinds of problems with politics in academia?
Bnw sez just keep it out of the classroom — but is that possible? I mean, its possible in math class, but not in history class…
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vYou guys are just discussing myths, from the outside.
The idea that there’s this uniform, pervasive problem with university faculty “preaching” is just made up from the outside.
The faculty I know—from my family (both parents were science PhDs) to experience as a student to the faculty I know personally (and that;s a lot of people) is that no one “preaches” in the classroom.
When you’re engaged, for example, on getting students to see and sort out issues involving English national policy in the era of the napoleonic wars, you don;t get a lot of opportunities (let alone desire) to launch into some political screed, be it conservative, liberal, or leftist.
This is just a made-up non-issue.
And if you doubt me read the article I posted in my last post.
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znModeratorYea. It’s all over the internet with stories about how conservatives are limited in their right to express on campuses.
Oh yes the internet.
The story being told is, typically, a partisan conservative bot machine fest. Truth is, especially since the 2010s, american universities are dominated by conservative administrations and boards of trustees. That’s an actual movement. As a rule, the departments you can count on to be predominantly conservative include engineering, applied sciences generally, agriculture, criminal justice, business and economics, but pretty much you tend to find balance throughout the sciences and applied sciences, with a tendency toward liberals in the humanities and social sciences. (A reminder: I don’t identify as a liberal and I count what gets called liberal these days as centrist.)
This of course only accounts for full-time faculty. Right now the trend is to hire tons of adjuncts, who have absolutely no say in policy, and tons of administrators, and the trend in administration is over the top far down the line conservative oriented.
Right now there are about 1.5 million faculty in the USA and 76% or more are part time adjuncts. The percentage of full-time faculty went from 45% in 1975 to only 24%. That’s significant, because it puts completely disempowered adjuncts as the majority of university/college teachers at the exact same time the trend nationally is toward conservative administrations and boards of trustees.
Here;s a good article on all this. It includes this statement: From a personal standpoint, the most surprising part of the results outlined in The Still Divided Academy is that they correspond entirely with my own experience. Like the vast majority of the Republicans in our study, I’ve never been the victim of mistreatment as a result of my political views. On my campus, I’ve never considered discrimination against conservatives to be a problem. Although the work has its unique challenges, I can’t imagine any other job that I would love more. While it may sound odd to be surprised when scientific evidence comports with our personal observations, as a social scientist, I have a natural aversion to drawing generalizations based on my own idiosyncratic life experiences. Because the narrative of the besieged conservative minority appeared consistent with the ideological imbalance in American higher education, I simply assumed that I was the exception. I now realize that my story is not unique.
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Rethinking the Plight of Conservatives in Higher Education
Findings that run against the grain of assumptions.Matthew Woessner
https://www.aaup.org/article/rethinking-plight-conservatives-higher-education#.WFy_mNQrLGg
Within academia, I’m a rare breed: a conservative Republican who twice voted for George W. Bush. I supported the invasion of Iraq, and I deeply admire Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas for their originalist approach to interpreting the Constitution. Yet I am first and foremost a scientist whose singular devotion is to Truth. Whatever my ideological instincts, I have an obligation to examine social scientific phenomena impartially, striving at all times to form opinions based on empirical evidence rather than ideological articles of faith.
It is against this backdrop that my research into the politics of academia—conducted with my wife, April Kelly-Woessner—has led me to some surprising and, admittedly, somewhat difficult conclusions. Whereas my conservative colleagues tend to portray academia as rife with partisan conflict, my research into the impact of politics in higher education tells a different story. Although the Right faces special challenges in higher education, our research offers little evidence that conservative students or faculty are the victims of widespread ideological persecution. In waging their high-profile crusade against ideological bias in the academy, activists such as David Horowitz may be overstating the extent to which conservatives are mistreated on campuses. In so doing, the movement to promote intellectual diversity in higher education may be inadvertently discouraging conservatives from pursuing academic careers.
My own interest in the plight of conservatives within academia came somewhat late in my still-young academic career. Whereas some academics become fixated on research questions based on personal connection to the issue (something I once heard psychology professor John Ruscio refer to as “me-search”), it never occurred to me to study the politics within academia. Because everyone already knew conservatives were a persecuted minority, what was the point? So, after writing a doctoral dissertation on public reactions to presidential scandal, I spent my first few years as an assistant professor examining abstract questions in the field of public opinion and voting behavior. It wasn’t until my wife April (herself a political science professor at Elizabethtown College) came to me with an interesting research question that the focus of my work changed. “What impact,” she asked, “do perceptions of a professor’s politics have on student evaluations of the course?” Believing instinctively that all good academic questions have already been taken, I dismissed the idea out of hand: “Not only has that topic probably been done,” I remarked, “I’m guessing it’s been done to death.”
I was wrong. We found virtually nothing on the question and comparatively little on the impact of politics in the classroom more generally. Thus began a line of research that would consume all of our energies over the next six years as we adapted our skills as public-opinion specialists to the study of politics in higher education.
Taking our first tentative steps into the study of politics in the academy, we designed a large-scale survey to test how students reacted to perceptions of political bias in the classroom. In our July 2006 PS: Political Science and Politics article, “My Professor Is a Partisan Hack: How Perceptions of a Professor’s Political Views Affect Student Course Evaluations,” we found that when students perceive a gap between their political views and those of their instructor, students express less interest in the material, are inclined to look less favorably on the course, and tend to offer the instructor a lower course evaluation. The results, while not earth shattering, demonstrated that students do not passively accept disparate political messages but tend to push back against faculty members they perceive as presenting a hostile point of view.
Shortly after completing a follow-up article on perceptions of faculty politics for the Journal of Political Science Education, our research in the politics of academia took a new turn. April and I were asked to participate in a research conference on politics in higher education sponsored by the American Enterprise Institute. In an effort to generate original research for the 2009 edited volume The Politically Correct University, conference organizers asked scholars to consider how academia’s liberalism influences American higher education. April and I were asked to investigate why conservatives tend not to pursue PhDs. Drawing from the familiar narrative that conservatives are an oppressed minority group within academia, I assumed that the shortage of conservatives in doctoral programs was the result of their poor treatment within academia. Either conservative students had an overall less positive collegiate experience, making the thought of graduate school less palatable, or they failed to make personal connections with their leftist or liberal professors. Absent a mentoring relationship with the faculty, conservative students would be less likely to consider a career in higher education. Using survey data from the Higher Education Research Institute at the University of California, Los Angeles, April and I set about testing these and other possible explanations for the ideological gap in American doctoral programs. The findings defied my expectations.
Quite surprisingly, whatever impact college might have on students’ academic ambitions, left-leaning first-year students begin their education with a far greater interest in eventually pursuing a doctoral degree than their conservative counterparts. Whereas liberal and conservative students have very similar grades and nearly identical levels of satisfaction with their overall college experience, right-leaning students are far more likely to select “practical” majors that are less likely to lead to advanced degrees. Their emphasis on vocational fields such as business and criminal justice permits them to move directly into the workforce.
In contrast, left-leaning students are more apt to pursue majors in the liberal arts, such as sociology and philosophy, which, absent additional graduate training, provide fewer career opportunities immediately on graduation. Even within a major like political science, college seniors of different political leanings have different expectations with regard to their forthcoming careers. Whereas students on both the left and the right place a premium on securing a comfortable salary and having the time to raise a family, conservative students consistently rate these priorities as more important than do liberal students. In addition, while neither liberal nor conservative students are particularly drawn to writing original works or making a contribution to science, liberal students tend to rate these priorities as more important to their future career. In every instance where students’ career expectations might encourage them to enter a doctoral program, liberal students enjoyed an advantage over conservative students.
In other words, from a purely rational perspective, students’ underlying preferences appear to lead more liberals into advanced degrees, thus creating a fairly large ideological gap. Our findings are by no means conclusive, as much of the ideological gap remains unexplained. However, the fact that the data did not support my initial assumptions compelled me to think more carefully about both the cause and the implications of academia’s ideological imbalance.
At roughly the same time that April and I were grappling with why conservatives get fewer PhDs, we began work on our second, more comprehensive study of politics within the classroom. Whereas our 2006 study looked only at student perceptions of the professor’s politics, our newest survey also permitted us to measure shifts in students’ political leanings relative to the professor’s political views. While our follow-up study was motivated in part by a genuine academic curiosity, the project itself was designed to settle a bet. As a conservative who has often encountered left-leaning professors, I assumed that the typical student’s politics would be influenced by his or her academic mentors. While I was not strongly influenced by my professors’ left-wing politics, I assumed most conservative students weren’t so resilient. April, whose politics are well to the left of my own, asserted that students would not be meaningfully influenced by their professors’ views.
April was fond of reminding me that “students aren’t sponges.” By the age of eighteen, she argued, most people are already set in their ways.
Sure enough, our research indicated she was right. In our next major article in the April 2009 edition of PS: Political Science and Politics, “I Think My Professor Is a Democrat: Considering Whether Students Recognize and React to Faculty Politics,” we provided evidence that while student views do shift over the course of a semester, they tend to move somewhat randomly, usually regressing toward the mean. While we observed a slight shift in favor of the Democrats (representing an average 0.06 points on a five-point scale), the change occurred irrespective of the professor’s political orientation. Thus, while students’ partisan orientations did shift over the course of time, the changes are hardly what one might expect if faculty members were systematically indoctrinating their students.
While our more recent findings ran against the grain of my ideological assumptions, I wasn’t yet prepared to rethink fundamentally the plight of conservatives in academia. To that point, our research focused entirely on the experiences of students. While undergraduates might be in a position to steer clear of hostile professors, we surmised, certainly conservative faculty members faced persecution as they sought to secure tenure in a system dominated by the Left.
Conservative—And Content—In Academe
The seismic shift in my view of academic politics came only in the last few years, as April and I embarked on our most ambitious project to date. While attending the aforementioned American Enterprise Institute conference on politics in academia, political science professor Robert Maranto introduced us to Stanley Rothman, a respected scholar and prolific author who had devoted much of his distinguished career to the study of elites. In what was designed as a follow-up study to their landmark research into the opinions of academics, Rothman, Carl Everett Ladd, and Seymour Martin Lipset collaborated to produce the first large-scale survey of students, faculty, and college administrators. The 1999 North American Academic Study Survey captured the values, views, and experiences of more than four thousand respondents drawn randomly from four-year colleges and universities across the United States. However, with the death of Ladd and Lipset, and Rothman’s diagnosis with Parkinson’s disease, most of the data had not been thoroughly examined. Hoping to jumpstart the project, Rothman asked April and me to join him in writing a book-length manuscript that might capture the complex and often conflicting views of those within the academy.The resulting book, The Still Divided Academy: How Competing Visions of Power, Politics, and Diversity Complicate the Mission of Higher Education, goes far beyond a look at politics in the academy. Following the outline sketched by Rothman, Lipset, and Ladd some years before, we examined the views within higher education on such issues as academic freedom, faculty-administration relations, campus diversity, and affirmative action. While working on the politics chapter I began to rethink my views about the plight of conservatives.
Looking at survey data from all of higher education’s primary constituencies, I began to realize that Republicans and conservatives, while vastly outnumbered in academia, were, for the most part, successful, happy, and prosperous. Fewer than 2 percent of faculty (Republican or Democratic) reported being the victims of unfair treatment based on their politics. Only 7 percent of Republican faculty believed that discrimination against those with “right-wing” views was a serious problem on their campus, compared with 8 percent of Democratic faculty who expressed concerns about discrimination against those with “left-wing” views. Asked to consider what they would do if given the opportunity to “begin your career again,” 91 percent of Democratic faculty and 93 percent of Republican faculty answered that they would “definitely” or “probably” want to be a college professor. Similarly, few rightleaning students or administrators claimed to have been the victims of political mistreatment. Like their Democratic counterparts, most were satisfied with their experience in higher education.
Gravitational Pulls
Whereas our results show that Democratic and Republican professors do differ on a number of issues outside of the realm of politics and policy (for example, the purpose of higher education, the importance of tenure, and the prevalence of racial and sex discrimination), the political gap on college campuses is less important than other sources of tension, which arise based on differences between faculty and administrators and differences in academic discipline, age, and gender. While Republicans on campus are members of a distinct minority, their political views are but one of many defining characteristics that permit them to form friendships and alliances with others on campus. These nonideological associations probably act to minimize conservatives’ social and political isolation.From a personal standpoint, the most surprising part of the results outlined in The Still Divided Academy is that they correspond entirely with my own experience. Like the vast majority of the Republicans in our study, I’ve never been the victim of mistreatment as a result of my political views. On my campus, I’ve never considered discrimination against conservatives to be a problem. Although the work has its unique challenges, I can’t imagine any other job that I would love more. While it may sound odd to be surprised when scientific evidence comports with our personal observations, as a social scientist, I have a natural aversion to drawing generalizations based on my own idiosyncratic life experiences. Because the narrative of the besieged conservative minority appeared consistent with the ideological imbalance in American higher education, I simply assumed that I was the exception. I now realize that my story is not unique.
Yet while the results of our research cast serious doubt on claims that conservatives are besieged, it remains probable that conservatives face unique obstacles within the academic world. For students, these impediments are probably temporary and eminently navigable. For Republican faculty, particularly in the social sciences and the humanities, higher education’s profound ideological imbalance creates impediments that likely hamper their professional success.
Although we don’t have any reliable data on the percentage of faculty members who promote (directly or indirectly) an ideological agenda in the curriculum, since most undergraduates enjoy a remarkable degree of academic flexibility in their course selection, conservative students will tailor their education to avoid needless political conflict. Looking back at my own experience, I remember how, as a young conservative, I tailored my own course selection to the subjects and professors I found most agreeable. I recall that as a naive sophomore I enrolled in an introductory sociology course and was surprised that the professor was an avowed Marxist. Concerned that our ideological perspectives might ultimately affect my course grade, I tried unsuccessfully to lay low. However, noting that I cringed as she denounced Reagan’s economic policies, the professor asked if I had a different take on the issue. Somewhat reluctantly, I offered a defense of Reaganomics. To her credit, she listened attentively and, as far as I could tell, took my novel ideas seriously. In light of the fact that, by her own admission, she had never heard a spirited defense of conservative economic policies, it became clear to me that sociology was an ideological minefield. I never enrolled in another sociology course for the rest of my academic career.
While at UCLA I discovered a number of politically moderate professors, including political scientists like Leo Snowiss and John Petrocik, whose approach to the subject matter seemed largely nonideological. Feeling that political science was a discipline that was relatively tolerant of diverse political views, I elected to pursue a graduate degree and join the professoriate.
While the experience in one or two introductory courses may be a poor proxy for the ideological tenor of a major, it seems probable that conservative students use this type of snap judgment in charting their academic course. Indeed, our findings in The Politically Correct University that conservatives gravitate toward minimally ideological majors are consistent with this explanation. Whereas liberal and conservative students express similar levels of satisfaction with their college education, right-leaning students show greater dissatisfaction with their social science and humanities courses. Predictably, they gravitate away from majors in these fields and toward the more professionally oriented disciplines. While the underlying preferences of conservative students for “practical” fields contribute to their selection of majors, the extent to which the politics of the professoriate also influence these decisions is a question worthy of serious scholarly attention.
Whereas students can avoid conflict and select majors that suit their personal dispositions, right-leaning professors, particularly outside of the hard sciences, are forced to seek the approval of faculty whose ideological worldview may be at odds with their own. By this I’m not referring to overt political discrimination, whereby a left-leaning professor will actively undermine the promotion of a colleague because of a difference of opinion. Indeed, based on our own findings, conservatives have few complaints about unfair treatment based on their political views.
The more pernicious problem occurs when right-leaning scholars submit their work for blind review with prestigious publishers or in peer-reviewed journals. Even if we presume that most journal referees are sincerely trying to judge a work based on its scholarly merits rather than its social or political implications, a jury pool dominated by left-leaning scholars will almost certainly subject right-leaning papers to greater scrutiny, highlighting their methodological shortcomings and challenging their overall conclusions. If the academic universe were evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats, the unconscious tendency to challenge dissenting viewpoints would hamper the publication of conservative and liberal work at roughly the same rate. However, with a vast majority of academics falling on the left side of the political spectrum, this is an issue that, in all probability, tends to hamper the publication of conservative-leaning ideas. Thus, professors whose political instincts are right of center must either focus on non-ideological scholarly questions or endure a special degree of scrutiny as they seek to secure publication of their ideas.
Again, while I remain reluctant to consider my own academic career in an effort to understand the plight of conservatives, I must confess that the ease with which my own work moves into print appears inversely proportional to its potential support for conservative policy positions. A journal referee’s propensity to fixate on seemingly trivial methodological flaws seems to increase dramatically if my conclusions undermine a leftist policy position. This observation is not a criticism of liberals in academia. An institution dominated by conservatives would be just as likely to scrutinize unfriendly findings more closely than sympathetic ones. In a field where the number and prestige of academic publications are key factors in tenure and promotion, this potential bias has important real-world consequences. The accusation of bias in the publication process was recently raised in Econ Journal Watch by David Gordon and Per Nilsson. Focusing on the 494 books with an ideological thesis, the researchers found that only 2 percent of Harvard University Press publications had conservative or classically liberal perspectives. While we don’t know the proportion of conservative manuscripts submitted for Harvard University Press’s consideration, it seems improbable that 98 percent of the requests had a left-leaning thesis.
znModeratori find it interesting that fisher says he took the job knowing that there was a pending move to los angeles
Yeah if there was any lingering doubt about that, JF gave it a swift mercy killing there.
znModeratorI just got tired of hearing the excuses. Maybe it was after the “We’re not going 7 And 9” speech? The 28 – 0 loss to SF?
They were not ready for the season, that was clear. But then to me that came from a 1st time coordinator installing basically a new offense during a move. So the start of 2016 reminded me of the start of 2011, when they were out of sync from a bad install too.
But see in the end, JF thought a 1st time coordinator could install a new offense during a move. So. You know, he mixed his own poison on that one.
2016 was bad, but for me it doesn’t change 2012-15.
Plus of course no coach I have ever seen or heard of goes “yeah you’re right I suck.”
You’re not genetically programmed to be a coach if you are capable of a remark like that. Coaches always think, if I could just do one more thing, I will have it all fixed.
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znModeratorAre you sure, Zooey and wv I hear are rumored to be candidates. Just saying.
After getting fired the way they were, Z and WV will never coach again.
You can count on that.
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znModeratorExcept its not ‘the government’ that supports the climate-change-consensus. Its lots and lots and lots of different kinds of governments and organizations all over the world. Japan, Cuba, Norway, France, etc, etc.
If it were just the USA that was pushing this, it would be one thing — but its not.
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vAs a child of 2 scientists, I have often had this conversation. Someone says, no there’s no global scientific consensus on climate change, that’s a conspiracy. And I say, do you know any scientists? It’s hard to get 2 scientists to agree on where to have lunch. Let alone get thousands upon thousands of them in different countries all over the globe and in different fields to agree to a lie when agreeing to a lie like that goes against the core inner principles that make them scientists in the first place.
It’s not one country. It’s not one field. It’s not one scientific organization. These are people whose very training includes the fact that they get individually rewarded for resisting theories they don’t believe in, and yet there is consensus.
Only people with ties to corporate interests deny this stuff. And even then their own corporations undermined them by accounting for climate change in their own fiscal decision making….which they did do, while also funding the deniers.
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