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znModeratorOffense mimics the Washington offense, lots of movement multiple formations multiple tight ends and things to defend
Just a reminder. Barwin played against that offense in Phil from 2014-16–the years when McVay was the Washington coordinator. So Barwin is an expert on that offense and how it looks and what it does.
znModerator“While everything is focusing on that, (RUSSIAN ELECTION INVERVENTION) the Paul Ryan republicans, who are, in my view, the most dangerous and savage group in the country, are busy implementing programs that they have been talking quietly about for years. Very savage programs, which have very simple principles. One, be sure to offer to the rich and powerful gifts beyond the dreams of avarice, and [two], kick everyone else in the face. And it’s going on step by step right behind the bluster.”
remember the decoy punt return TD that Stedman Bailey ran back when Tavon pretended to field the punt?
Dems are still keying on Tavon (Russian hacker story) whiled Baily (Peter Ryan) are running back TDs to the house……
Fisher could only fool them once, but the Dems keep taking the bait….
I don’t buy any of this, guys.
The Dems are focused on the wrong things cause they always are. So why are we even paying attention to them.
And Russia is real, independent of the fact that the Dems buy into it too. That’s not either/or. Just because the Dems have their Russia narrative is not a good reason to dismiss the Russia issue. There’s also a left critique of the Russian situation, that doesn’t simply make the facile move of dismissing it as a distraction. It’s just not a better, more solid move to let the Dems interest in Russia distract people from Russia. In fact it’s the same thing, just turned upside down.
AND it’s perfectly possible to get the Russia story while also fully understanding what the Paul Ryan republicans are up to. I mean I for one fully get both things. That’s just not that hard.
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znModeratorNittany…this software converts some links into pics. It’s hard to know in advance what will happen so you have to double-check after posting a link. The way to fix it is to put some kind of writing on the same line as the link. I just do it by going writing link:
It’s the difference between this
link: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/are-drug-expiry-dates-really-a-myth/
And this
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laram wrote:
Connor Barwin IS high on the Rams
He was on a Philly Radio Station promoting his benefit concert.
– Super stoked to be in LA
– Very excited about the team
-Very happy to be back with Wade in 3-4. Felt so comfortable being back at natural position
– Nobody thinks we’re any good I think we’ll be pretty good– This is the best group of coaches he’s ever been around his entire career
– Talked about Joe Barry and Billy Johnson, lb’s and d-line coaches have been around and know what Wade wants in his defense
– Talked about the Rams defense already being a good bunch and how excited he was to see how he fit.
Note: Interviewer said yeah…that Aaron Donald is pretty good. Surprisingly Barwin said nothing, crickets
– We’re a young team its nice to be one of the veterans to teach the younger guys
– – Goff looked good, thought he looked really good. Started to get better as the summer went on
– Offense mimics the Washington offense, lots of movement multiple formations multiple tight ends and things to defend
Super stoked…His words not mine.
znModeratorTraining Camp Positional Preview: Offense
Kristen Lago
We are just three days away from the official start to the 2017 Rams Training Camp presented by AT&T. The rookies will begin unpacking their bags later today, here at the University of California, Irvine and veteran players will be arriving on Friday.
In the lead up to Saturday’s first practice, we took a look at five of the most interesting storylines to look out for during the next few weeks. And with every good storyline comes a few key players. Today, I’m giving you a position-by-position look at the Rams roster heading into training camp.
Let’s start out with the offense:
QUARTERBACKS –
Likely Starter:This should come as no surprise to any of you Rams fans out there—a familiar face will be back at the starting role this year with veteran QB Jared Goff. Throughout the offseason, Goff has committed himself to learning a new system and becoming a vocal leader on the team. Throughout the next few weeks of training camp, look for him to continue mastering the new offensive system and establishing himself as a true veteran leader.
Key Addition:
Dan Orlovsky – The Rams added a third quarterback to their roster last week by agreeing to terms with the former Lions player. In his return to L.A. Orlovsky will reunite with quarterbacks coach, Greg Olson, who previously coached for the Lions in 2005, and will serve as an exciting counterpart to Sean Mannion.
The Bottom Line:
The Rams offense needs to come alive this training camp if they can hope to rebuild and improve upon their last season. Goff will need to play a key role in reaching towards that goal, providing a needed spark and a strong leadership presence for the offense as a whole.
WIDE RECEIVERS –
Likely Starters:As you heard from Myles Simmons yesterday, two of the most likely starters at the wide receiver position are Tavon Austin and Robert Woods. Both will enter training camp as the top two in their position, bringing with them both the experience and athletic ability needed to hold down that starting role.
Key Additions:
Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp: The Rams signed the former Buffalo Bills wide out and Los Angeles native in March and are hoping he can complement Austin as a starting receiver. Though his 2016 season was derailed by a knee injury, he did have an impressive rookie season catching 65 passes for just under 700 yards. Rams rookie, Cooper Kupp will be another to watch this training camp after establishing himself as a great route runner and team player this offseason, you just might see him snag that third starting role at wide receiver.
Biggest Question:
The biggest question at the wide receiver position comes from the fact that there are currently 11 players listed as wide receivers on the Rams roster. All will be looking to make their mark in front of offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur and head coach Sean McVay during training camp.
The Bottom Line:
The Rams have plenty of options for Goff this season. Now, it will be up to the 11 players on the roster to prove themselves during training camp and compete for playing time come the regular season.
RUNNING BACKS –
Likely Starter:Todd Gurley will be back at the starting position this year as the Rams go-to running back. The former Rookie of the Year is set to have a big impact on the field, not only during training camp, but well into the regular season. As he continues to master the new offensive system, fans can look forward to a dynamic Gurley getting back on the field.
Key Addition:
Lance Dunbar comes into 2017 training camp as a new backup for Gurley. The Rams signed the former Dallas Cowboy to replace Benny Cunningham. Dunbar is a dual threat in both the run game and pass game and could be an option at the kickoff return for special teams. Fullback Sam Rogers (FB) is also a key addition to this position group. Rogers comes to the Rams from Virginia Tech where he accounted for 692 yards rushing and 802 yards receiving.
The Bottom Line:
The Rams averaged only 3.3 yards per carry with just over 1200 rushing yards overall last season. With Gurley at the helm, training camp will provide the space and time for the Rams to hone in on their run game and become a force to be reckoned with this upcoming season
TIGHT ENDS –
Likely Starters:Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett are the two most likely to start at tight end. Though Higbee was targeted just 29 times last season, catching 11 passes as a rookie, a new offensive system should provide him the space to shine as a second-year TE. Everett will bring his impressive run-after-catch ability and strength to the team, providing a solid counterpart to Higbee.
Key Addition:
Gerald Everett – No need to go over this one again. The Rams highest draft pick will look to make a big contribution to the offense this season.
The Bottom Line:
One thing is clear: Sean McVay is known for his development of tight ends, with his Redskins’ offense producing the most yards in the league at the TE position. He will look to Higbee and Everett to be consistent options on the offense, getting them involved in various schemes on field.
OFFENSIVE LINEMEN –
Likely Starters:Rodger Saffold (LG), John Sullivan (C), Rob Havenstein (RG), Jamon Brown (RT) and Andrew Whitworth (LT) will be the likely five to hit the field as starters in September. While the offseason brought with it a variety of changes at this position, this group has emerged as a unit who wants to compete and can help each other become better.
Key Addition:
Andrew Whitworth – The Rams added one of the best with this signing. Whitworth was a first-team All Pro selection in 2015 and was graded as the second-best left tackle by Pro Football Focus in 2016.
Biggest Question:
Last year the Rams offensive line ranked among the bottom five among all offensive line units in the NFL. But, with a new line coach in Aaron Kromer and a few key changes to the line itself, training camp should be a key indicator to the progress of the offensive unit overall. With a lot of newness in this position, it remains to be seen whether these changes will translate into a successful line come the regular season.
The Bottom Line:
The offensive line will be chalk full of experience under the big five listed above, but they will need to prove themselves as a cohesive unit if the Rams offense looks to improve as a whole.
znModeratorHow Will Jamon Brown Adjust to RT?
Myles Simmons
From what we saw during OTAs and minicamp, it seemed like Brown was making a fairly smooth transition over to right tackle.
It’s a position he’s familiar with, having played both the left and right tackle during his college days at Louisville. He said there was some rust to knock off, but with working there for the weeks he did during the offseason program, paired with whatever work he was doing over the summer break, he’s likely in a good spot to handle that position full time.
“I think what you like about Jamon is his demeanor. I think he’s got a great disposition where he’s willing to be coached,” head coach Sean McVay said during the offseason program. “He’s got good movement for a big, physical player. And when he gets his hands on people, he certainly does a nice job of securing the line of scrimmage — whether that’s in the run game or in protection when he jump-sets people.”
While McVay said Brown will enter training camp as the starting right tackle, there may also be competition there from other players. The head coach mentioned Andrew Donnal and Pace Murphy as depth pieces that allowed the club to feel comfortable trading Greg Robinson back in June, so they may be in the mix.
But the other factor to think about is how will the players look different once they’re in pads. The offseason program is important for skill development, to be sure. But it can make it a bit tougher to evaluate offensive linemen because so much of their technique and effectiveness is only apparent once they’re working with pads. So that will be another important element to monitor as training camp goes on.
July 27, 2017 at 2:01 am in reply to: standard weekly praise for Donald (PFF's top ranked player for 2017) #71299
znModeratorUNSTOPPABLE. Aaron Donald's tackle heat map from last season. He made 57% of his plays on the opponent's side of the ball. #Rams pic.twitter.com/nRIoJrPYCg
— Paddi Cooper (@PaddiCooper) July 26, 2017
znModeratorRams receiver Cooper Kupp poised to be a starter
By Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-training-camp-20170726-story.html
He walked off the field after his final high school football game without a single college scholarship offer.
On Wednesday, Rams rookie receiver Cooper Kupp arrived at training camp at UC Irvine listed as a probable starter on the initial depth chart.
That’s how much Kupp apparently impressed coach Sean McVay after the Rams selected the record-setting Eastern Washington star in the third round of the NFL draft.
“All that stuff’s speculation,” Kupp said of the depth chart. “I still haven’t done anything yet.”
Kupp was part of a draft class that includes tight end Gerald Everett, a second-round pick, safety John Johnson (third round), receiver Josh Reynolds (fourth), linebacker Samson Ebukam (fourth), fullback Sam Rogers (sixth), and defensive linemen Tanzel Smart (sixth) and Ejuan Price (seventh).
Drafted players and other rookies reported Wednesday. Veterans must report by Friday. The first full-squad workout, one of 15 open to the public, is Saturday.
“My expectation is to come in here and help win games,” Kupp said. “That’s the most important part, the most important statistic.”
The Rams, coming off a 4-12 season, had the NFL’s worst offense the last two seasons.
It is expected to change under McVay, who oversaw a potent passing attack as the Washington Redskins’ offensive coordinator.
In March, the Rams signed free-agent receiver Robert Woods to join a position group that includes veteran Tavon Austin. Then they focused on bolstering their receivers through the draft.
Kupp, 24, stood out during rookie camp and also during organized team activities and a minicamp. He came in with a reputation for preparedness, and it showed.
“I would like people to say that when they describe the type of player I am,” he said. “Someone that prepares like a pro.”
Kupp, 6 feet 2 and 205 pounds, is the grandson of former NFL lineman Jake Kupp and the son of Craig Kupp, a former NFL quarterback. But he did not attract much major college attention.
During his career at Davis High in Yakima, Wash., Kupp said, Yale expressed interest. But that fell through and he finished his prep career unsure about his next step.
“It was tough,” he said of having no scholarship offers. “There’s no feeling like that thought. I believed I could play at the next level, but there’s that voice in the back of your head saying, ‘Well, right now no one else thinks that you can.’
“But that didn’t change my idea. My thoughts were, ‘I can do this. I know I can play at the next level. ’”
Kupp subsequently heard from and visited Idaho State and Eastern Washington.
He signed on at Eastern Washington, was a redshirt in 2012, and then went on to establish Football Championship Subdivision records for receptions, touchdown catches and receiving yards.
Throughout college, Kupp said he studied star NFL receivers Larry Fitzgerald, Antonio Brown and A.J. Green.
“Receiver is an art — there is not one way to do it,” Kupp said. “And all of these guys play the position very differently.
“I draw a little bit into my game from each of those guys.”
McVay and Les Snead, Rams general manager, evaluated Kupp on tape, on the field at the Senior Bowl, during workouts and an interview at the NFL scouting combine, and in private workouts.
The Rams did not have a first-round pick in the draft, a byproduct of the historic trade that enabled them to move up and select Jared Goff No. 1 in 2016. They took Everett in the second round and then tabbed Kupp.
The receiver had already developed a rapport with Goff, who shares the same agent. But even while catching passes from young free-agent quarterbacks during a rookie camp, Kupp stood out.
“Cooper was a guy that consistently showed up,” McVay said after the camp ended.
Kupp continued to stand out when the full squad practiced. After minicamp ended in June, he continued to work with Goff and other players during the run-up to training camp.
Now he is poised to begin preparation for his first NFL season, in an offense that features multiple receivers.
“I understand what we’re trying to accomplish with it,” he said. “I think it fits my game well.”
znModeratorI know that Nolan hates CGI and I was happy to see a film that didn’t rely on that. The reviewer wanted a certain story told on a grander scale. It just wasnt the way Nolan chose to do it. Perhaps Speilberg will make that film someday.
I think Nolan made the sort of film he wanted. I don’t agree with some of the choices but I liked it and I liked the air battles minus the CGI.
PA, I honestly recognize Nolan’s merits. But I don’t like him as much as you. That’s purely and sheerly a matter of taste on my part. So you say TOHM-AA-TOE, and I say PORK DUMPLINGS.
znModeratorFacebook vid.
Dani interviews Johnson.
link: https://www.facebook.com/Rams/videos/10156130624098484/
znModeratorKupp Enters Camp Ready to Make an Impact
By Myles Simmons
There’s been a lot of hype surrounding Rams rookie wide receiver Cooper Kupp.
You’ve probably seen the headlines. Good Morning Football’s Peter Schrager said Kupp will be the most productive first-year wideout in football. The Rams’ recent projections included him as the club’s third starting wide receiver.
So how does the 24-year-old Kupp process all this as he begins his first training camp?
“There has been some media about stuff like that, but at the end of the day I’m here for the team. I’m here to be the best that I can be,” Kupp said on Wednesday. “All that stuff, speculations — I still haven’t done anything yet. I just want to come in here and get better every single day and be a part of winning games as a Ram.”
Kupp and the Rams rookies arrived over the course of the afternoon, checking into their rooms at UC Irvine that will be serve as their home for the next few weeks. Kupp, who will be sharing his dorm suite with fullback Sam Rogers, said he’s looking forward to the next few weeks.
It’s been an unlikely journey for the Eastern Washington product, who finished his high school career without a college scholarship offer. He said at one point coaches from Yale were recruiting him decently hard. But then he received a call to let him know the Ivy League school was going in another direction.
“Yeah, it was tough. There is no feeling like that,” Kupp said. “I believed I could play at the next level but there’s that voice in the back of your head saying ‘Well, right now no one else thinks that you can.’
“But that didn’t change my idea,” Kupp continues. “My thoughts were ‘I can do this, I know I can play at the next level.’ And I was lucky enough to be able to connect to some really good coaches and really great players in college.”
And as is well known by now, Kupp set numerous FCS records at Eastern Washington en route to being selected in the third round this year.
Kupp said he’s not spent much time reflecting on that journey, as he’s still at the beginning of his professional career and looking toward the future.
“I’m going to let that be what it is. I’m all about the mentality that whatever you’ve done before you know forget about it, flush it, move forward whether it’s good or bad,” Kupp said. “You’ve got to go out and learn things every single day and the things that have happened before you can’t allow those things to define, define you and change you as a person. So, I’m going to stay the same me whether it’s good or bad, continue being the person who strives to be the best in everything that he does.”
To that end, Kupp said he spent time during the summer break working out with starting quarterback Jared Goff.
“He lives about 15 minutes from me, so I got a chance to work out with him a little bit, throw [with] all the guys,” Kupp said. “We had a good group of guys that were able to come out and throw and go through some stuff together and just continue to get that work and build that chemistry.”
It’s also about skill refinement, which is a point of pride for the young receiver. He received a number of compliments from coaches and players during the offseason program for how polished he was for a rookie.
That’s all by design, as the wideout is a noted student of the game. He said he studied different types of offenses during the pre-draft process. And he listed Larry Fitzgerald, Antonio aBrown, and A.J. Green as players he’s watched to try and model his game after.
“I would like people to say that when they describe the kind of player that I am, is someone that prepares like a pro,” Kupp said. “I’m not sure where where this came from, where the end result came from. But if people are describing me as a player, that is where I want to land — is someone that is putting everything they can do into this game and controlling what I can control, which is my attitude and my effort. That is always going to be on par with who I am as a player and it is going to be very important for me to carry that through day-by-day and all the way through my career.”
That attitude comes through in the way Kupp describes what propels him. Even though his path to the NFL was not traditional, Kupp says those who doubted his potential didn’t fuel him.
“I was motivated because of the person that I am, because of who God created me to be, and the doubts were there just because that’s how things go sometimes, you know? But the doubt in my mind — which is the most important thing — was never there,” Kupp said. “I believed I could play this game, you know let other people think what they can, I just control what I can control.”
And that is the approach Kupp has brought into his first training camp. He doesn’t appear to be putting much pressure on himself, instead opting to do what he can to make the biggest impact.
“Like I’ve said, my expectation is to come in here and help win games,” Kupp said. “That’s the most important part — most important statistic is just to be a part of winning game in whatever that role is going to be. I’m going to embrace it. i’m going to attack it. And outside of that, I am going to let everyone else do speculations, all of the different hypotheticals — I’m just going to control what I can control and strive to be a part of something special here.”
znModeratorThe first post here, with the interview, has been expanded. The first posted version gets cut off so I linked the full podcast.
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znModeratorRams43 wrote:
Summary
Goff was known to be a long term QB, but would require development.
Goff was tough and never went into a shell during very difficult times.
Goff is football oriented first, last, and always. Not interested in golf or partying.
Goff and McVay impressed each other from that first interview.
Snead wanted to see if Goff and McVay were simpatico.
Snead stressed the importance of instincts and quickness in evaluating prospects.
Snead stressed the importance of getting the right kind of players for a given system of the coaches.
Tremendous value is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
Sometimes players that are not athletic freaks learn to compensate in other areas (Kupp).
GM’s can’t draft scared. Gotta trust their evals.
znModeratorCooper Kupp could become a starter for Rams
By RICH HAMMOND
IRVINE — Cooper Kupp checked in for training camp Wednesday, and a Rams staffer handed him a dorm key, a wristband, a team handbook and, just maybe, a starting job.
It’s been a dizzying ascent for Kupp, who walked off a high school field in Yakima, Wash., six years ago without a scholarship offer. After that, Kupp set small-school college records as a receiver, became a third-round NFL draft pick and now seems to be on the verge of playing a huge role in the Rams offense.
The Rams last week released a list of projected starters, and Kupp’s name was included, along with veterans Robert Woods and Tavon Austin. Kupp seemed aware of the development but, with training-camp practices set to start Saturday at UC Irvine, he quickly dismissed its importance.
“Whatever that role is going to be, I’m going to embrace it,” Kupp said. “I’m going to attack it, and outside of that I’m going to let everyone else speculate on hypotheticals. I’m just going to focus on what I can control and strive to be part of something special here.”
The Rams clearly have high expectations for Kupp, a sturdy, 6-foot-2 receiver who they drafted out of Eastern Washington with the No. 69 overall pick. Throughout the summer’s rookie mini-camp and OTA practices, Kupp consistently drew attention as a standout at a position of great need.
For one thing, Kupp can catch the ball, which might seem basic, but not to anyone who watched the Rams struggle with dropped passes last season. Kupp has the toughness to play inside, as a slot receiver, and the question is whether he has enough speed and strength to play on the outside.
Work ethic isn’t an issue. Kupp said that, leading up to the draft, he studied the three major NFL offensive systems, from which all modern schemes have descended, and that be believes he fits well in the system of new coach Sean McVay.
Kupp also lives approximately 15 minutes from quarterback Jared Goff, so the two developed chemistry by running routes together after the Rams’ summer program ended in mid-June.
“I believe it’s not worth doing if you’re not trying to be the best at it,” Kupp said, “and football is something I believe I was made to do. So I’m going to put everything I have into it. There were times, growing up, where I wasn’t the biggest or strongest or fastest. I put in a lot of hard work to try to keep up with my friends and be a part of that group and achieve the things I wanted to.”
That attitude has carried Kupp far. As a high school senior, he had interest from Yale, but that fell off, and after his final game he didn’t have a scholarship offer. Eastern Washington and Idaho State eventually stepped up, and Kupp picked the former and set small-school records for receptions and receiving yards and touchdowns.
Some draft analysts believed the Rams reached to draft Kupp in the third round, but the move made sense for a team that had just lost receivers Kenny Britt and Brian Quick to free agency.
If things go to plan for the Rams, they will move Austin to an outside role and try to use him as more of a deep threat, and Kupp could fit into the slot role. By listing him as a starter, the Rams have set the bar high for Kupp, but his focus remains narrow.
“Coming into this, the goal is to get better every day,” Kupp said. “That doesn’t matter whether it’s offseason or in season. When I got to bed at night, the thoughts running through my head are, did I do what I needed to be the best me?”
MOVING IN
McVay and General Manager Les Snead are scheduled to speak with reporters Thursday, and all players are expected to be checked in for training camp by Friday afternoon. It remains uncertain whether star defensive lineman Aaron Donald, who missed part of the optional offseason program because of contract negotiations, will report for the start of camp.
znModeratorfrom THE GUT CHECK NO. 405: 10 POTENTIAL TRAINING CAMP RISERS
Matt Waldman examines 10 players he’s monitoring during training camp and expects good things.1. SAM BRADFORD
Bradford was an excellent quarterback prospect at Oklahoma who landed with Jeff Fisher’s turnstile of less imaginative offenses (whether that was Fisher’s influence or the coaches) and underwhelming offensive line. Thanks to injuries to himself and teammates and turnover of personnel, Bradford has been unable to develop a rapport with any of his offenses in three different stops. It’s only one of several reasons why his 2016 performance is quietly impressive.
Bradford arrived in Minnesota in September well after the team had spent months working with Teddy Bridgewater and Shaun Hill in Norv Turner’s offense. Mike Zimmer asked Turner to adjust his offense to what Bradford does well, but those are significant adjustments to make during the first month of the season and Turner was not adaptable.
This is a common mindset for old-school coordinators and coaches who believe they’ve earned jobs on the basis of their schemes more so than their leadership. They also let that perception get ingrained by not displaying the skills to excel beyond what they know and bounce from team to team as recycled coaching material.
Turner knows football and he’d be a fantastic offensive mind to learn about football. However, the track record shows that Turner is not adaptable with his scheme or as a leader. He reportedly did not like to adjust his scheme to players in order to maximize what the player could do. Instead, he preferred players rise to the scheme.
While I get where Turner is coming from, it doesn’t help a team improve fast enough if not everyone is bought into what Turner is selling. Zimmer and Turner could not agree on the changes that needed to be made and Turner quit before it became a huge media issue. I can respect Turner’s decision because many coaches would have behaved in a dysfunctional manner that could have hurt the team even more.
Even so, it meant Bradford and the Vikings were dealing with a new offensive coach, adjustments to the scheme, an injured offensive line that was serviceable at best when healthy, its franchise runner suffered a knee injury, and its best receiver (Diggs) suffered a groin injury at the end of the month.
Despite all of these issues, Bradford completed 71 percent of his passes and posted a 20-to-5 TD-to-INT performance in 15 games. Bradford did this with an off-brand, injured version of Odell Beckham, Jr. and Eli Manning was statistically worse with the real deal.
I was impressed with Bradford’s poise in the pocket. He made some difficult throws under pressure and did so with anticipation and touch. If Bradford’s surrounding talent stays healthy this month, I have to consider bumping him up my rankings and even incorporate him as a late-round QB2 in leagues where I embrace a greater amount of risk.
I’m not expecting Bradford to shock fantasy football with a top-10 QB performance this year, but I think a top-15 performance is far more reasonable than his ADP suggests.
Now I just need Josh Gordon to figure things out so I might enjoy some of my dynasty leagues a little more.
znModeratorIt got very strong reviews.
I am going to wait for the DVD, myself. I know I will miss out on the full impact of the big screen special effects and IMAX action sequences that way, but…to me it’s still a DVD movie.
The reviews (98% positive):
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_big_sick
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znModeratora negative review of Dunkirk, fwiw.
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Bloodless, boring and empty: Christopher Nolan’s Dunkirk left me coldDavid Cox
Nolan’s celebrated story of the evacuation at Dunkirk trades guts and glory for a 12A airbrushed rendering of history. The true story is much more complex – and moving
Wednesday 26 July 2017 06.33 EDT Last modified on Wednesday 26 July 2017 06.34 EDT
Is it just me? Christopher Nolan’s Dunkirk has bowled over critics and taken $100m (£77m) at the global box office in barely a week, but it left me cold.The subject sounds enticing: the legend of Dunkirk tells of an array of unprepared civilians assembling an armada of fishing boats, pleasure craft, yachts, motor launches, paddle steamers, barges and lifeboats to rescue an army from a battle-swept beach. What might cinema reveal of the logistical skills, resourcefulness, courage, doubts, arguments and fears of the citizenry involved?
Yet Nolan’s film chooses to ignore tales such as that of the Medway Queen, a paddle steamer that brought home 7,000 troops in seven round trips and shot down three German planes, or the Royal Daffodil, which returned 9,500 soldiers after blocking a hole below the waterline with a mattress. Instead, we encounter just one boat, skippered by a saintly Mark Rylance, comically attired in his Sunday best. The travails such a figure might have endured were apparently not dramatic enough. Instead, Rylance’s character is subjected to a bizarre set of events garnished with grating sentimentality.
For it is not the dynamics of the people’s armada that interest Nolan. He is more concerned with what is happening on and above Dunkirk’s beaches. What’s mainly happening, however, is that lots of soldiers are waiting around. Escapades, not altogether convincing, are therefore contrived for a few of them. Some bombs fall, some ships are sunk. Commanders mutter briefly but sagely to each other. In the skies, fighter pilots conduct what seems like an endlessly repeated dogfight. One plane runs out of fuel, although not as quickly as audiences might have hoped. And that’s sort of it.
Film-makers usually instil interest in their protagonists by giving them backstories and meaningful dialogue, thereby creating characters who can be engaged in drama. In Dunkirk, these things don’t happen.
The film also denies filmgoers any context. We’re told little about how the army has come to be beached or the threat it faces. We never see a German soldier, let alone the generals and politicians of either side who are masterminding events. We don’t even get the customary three sentences of text at the end, explaining the outcome. This is deliberate: Nolan has said he didn’t want to get “bogged down” in politics.
Another flaunted absence is CGI. Scale is the essence of the Dunkirk myth. There were more than 330,000 soldiers on the beach, and 933 British vessels, naval and private, plying the waves. It is for this kind of situation that computers were invented, but according to Nolan CGI counts as giving up.
So, in spite of his film’s $150m budget, the Royal Air Force seems to consist of three Spitfires, although real-life pilots flew 3,500 sorties at Dunkirk. The Luftwaffe, which Hitler made solely responsible for wiping out the beached Brits, seems able to summon up little more than a couple of Messerschmitts, three Stukas and one bomber. The Royal Navy appears to comprise just two destroyers; in fact, it deployed 39 destroyers and 309 other craft.
Women are excluded from the action by being confined to stereotypical roles, such as providing tea for the homecoming menfolk. In real life, female Auxiliary Territorial Service telephonists – who received two-thirds of a male soldier’s pay – were some of the last military personnel to leave the beach. The evacuees also included female civilians, including girls, caught up in the turmoil.
The restrictions Nolan places on himself have been cited to demonstrate his brilliance as a director. Not for him the humdrum apparatus of lesser directors. His film must be pared back so it can home in on its true subject. Which is what, exactly? Don’t be silly, the reviewers groan: it is the horror of war as never before. OK, got that, another stab at war-is-hell. Except that Dunkirk is no such thing. It is a 12A effort that avoids blood and guts as thoroughly as it avoids so much else. In the film, people hit by bombs die discreetly, with no unseemly dismemberment. Even abandoning a torpedoed ship doesn’t seem too unpleasant. So the movie doesn’t, as claimed, make you feel the terror of those it depicts. Why not?
Well, Dunkirk isn’t actually a war film at all – Nolan tells us so. That is why it doesn’t concern itself with “the bloody aspects of combat”. Instead, it is “a survival story, and first and foremost a suspense film”, according to the director.
A survival story, like Gravity, perhaps? But Dunkirk’s soldiers are denied the means of effecting their own survival, and it is in this that their pathos resides. Their unheroic fate is to mill around on a beach and get ferried home by non-combatants. Signaller Alfred Baldwin, who was at Dunkirk in 1940, recalled: “You had the impression of people standing waiting for a bus. There was no pushing or shoving.”
Or is it a suspense film, like Rear Window? We all know the outcome of the event, and know that nothing terribly bad was ever going to happen to Harry Styles, Captain Rylance or our plucky pilots. Even Hans Zimmer’s manipulative score can’t make that brick out of this straw.
But at least I now understand why I didn’t get it: there was nothing to get. Nolan trades on a mystique fuelled by affectations such as mangled timeframes and Imax cameras. In the film, the complications of chronology seem silly, and the naturalistic environment exposes this. I trekked to Leicester Square in London to get the full benefit of the 70mm picture, but I didn’t notice any. Indeed, I thought the subject would have been better suited to the cold, TV-news glare of digital than the lushness of film.
Still, Warner Brothers and the world seem happy to indulge Nolan. Good luck to him, not that he seems to need it.
July 26, 2017 at 12:47 pm in reply to: CTE Study Finds Evidence of Brain Disease in 110 Out of 111 Former NFL Players #71275
znModeratorCTE was nearly ubiquitous among former NFL players who donated their brains to science
The NFL issued a statement saying the league “will continue to work with a wide range of experts to improve the health of current and former NFL athletes.”
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-football-cte-brain-20170725-story.html
In a group of more than 100 professional football players whose brains were examined after their death, new research has found that virtually all suffered from chronic traumatic encephalopathy, a condition likely brought on by repeated blows to the head.
At a Boston University program that investigates the trauma-linked brain disease, researchers found that, of 111 former players for the National Football League who donated their brains for post-mortem examination, 110 bore the distinctive tangles, plaques and protein clumps now recognized as the neural hallmarks of CTE.
In life, all had suffered at least one of a range of behavioral symptoms — from mood instability and impulsiveness to substance abuse and aggression — that appeared to vary according to an athlete’s age at death, duration of participation in football and level of play. And the loved ones of the majority of the study’s participants told researchers that symptoms of CTE had worsened over the course of the participant’s life.
In nearly 9 out of 10 of those professional athletes — 86% — researchers found the telltale brain abnormalities of CTE were extensive, varied and scattered throughout the brain.
The report, published Tuesday in the journal JAMA, relates the accumulated findings from researchers’ post-mortem examinations of 202 brains, all donated by former football players or their families. Of those, researchers found clear evidence of CTE in 177, or 87.6%, of the brains they examined.
On average, those 177 athletes had played football for 15 years.
From kitchen tables to NFL owners’ boxes, the new report is likely to raise new concerns about the costs to players of a sport that, at its highest levels, has been a showcase for violent hits. As parents have fled the sidelines of youth football, taking their children with them, the NFL has changed rules in a bid to make the game safer, and has acknowledged a link between repeated concussions and players’ impairment. Payouts in a long-running suit by injured players against the NFL were approved last month.
In a statement issued Tuesday, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said “we appreciate the work done by Dr. McKee and her colleagues.”
The study leaves “many unanswered questions relating to the cause, incidence and prevalence of long-term effects of head trauma,” he added. But the NFL “is committed to supporting scientific research into CTE and advancing progress in the prevention and treatment of head injuries,” he said, citing the League’s commitment in 2016 to spend $100 million to support medical research and engineering advancements on brain science.
The study’s authors, led by Boston University neuropathologist Ann McKee, cautioned that the study does not suggest severe traumatic brain damage would be found so widely in all who have played football.
“These numbers are very startling and very high, but this is a skewed sample,” McKee told The Times.
The 202 brains examined in the study are called a “convenience sample.” They were donated, typically, by families who had witnessed troubling symptoms that often progressed among players. In many cases of suicide, for instance, donor families strongly suspected that trauma-related brain damage had led to their loved one’s death. And most had played football much longer than is typical, often starting young and continuing to play well into their 20s, McKee said.
Suicide was the most common cause of death among those diagnosed in the study with mild CTE, accounting for 27% of those deaths. The most common causes of death among those diagnosed with severe CTE were degenerative diseases such as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease. Close to half — 47% — of those with signs of severe CTE died of those causes.
In addition, the study did not compare the brains in the convenience sample to the brains of former football players chosen randomly or those who had no neuropsychiatric symptoms.
Not all the study’s participants played football professionally, and the findings of CTE also weren’t limited to NFL players.
Fourteen of the 202 donated brains came from football players who either did not live or did not play past high school, and three of those were found to have CTE.
Fifty-three of the study’s brains were donated by men who had played football at the collegiate level, and CTE was found in 48 of those.
Of 14 participants who had played semiprofessional football, nine had CTE. And seven of eight men who had played in the Canadian Football League were found to have the condition.
Neither of two brains that came from donors who had stopped playing football before high school showed signs of CTE.
Half of all the 202 donors whose brains were examined had died before they were 66 and half after their 66th birthday. Researchers concluded that, over the whole sample, the severity of CTE tracked closely with the age at which the subject died, with older donors showing, on average, the clearest and most extensive signs of CTE.
Researchers distinguished between brains with “mild” pathology — 44 of the 177 that showed signs of CTE — and those with “severe” levels of the disease’s structural hallmarks — 133 of the 177 brains examined. On average, those with mild CTE had played football for 13 years. Those found to have severe abnormalities had played football for an average of 15.8 years.
The authors of the study found no clear patterns in players’ positions — offensive and defensive linemen and running backs were most prominently represented in the sample and among those diagnosed with CTE. McKee said some of the patterns researchers did discern ran counter to expectations and will be fodder for important ongoing research.
For instance, many of the men whose families reported the most problematic symptoms, including mood disturbances, explosiveness and self-harm, were found to have only mild levels of CTE’s distinctive brain abnormalities, McKee said.
“We wondered whether there’s another pathology we’re not capturing in the data set,” McKee said — factors that, after trauma, might jump-start brain damage, exacerbate it or simply facilitate its spread across the brain. Possibilities include inflammation, the shearing of the fibers that lash neurons together or damage to the brain’s white matter — the fatty bundles of tissue that carry electrical signals among regions and hemispheres.
“We’ve been looking for eight years but don’t think we’ve captured a way to measure” all the possible factors that make CTE progress, McKee said. “At some point, there appears to be a progression — at least families complain of progression — and there appears to be a progression after the person has retired from the sport.”
Why, how and how much CTE progresses “remains one of the mysteries of this disease,” McKee said. “We think it’s stimulated by trauma, but how it’s self-perpetuating is unknown.”
Among the other potential contributing factors: age at first exposure to football and cumulative hits — both of which are under study elsewhere.
McKee said there’s growing evidence that early blows to the head may prove to be especially harmful — a suspicion suggesting that for youth players, a later start for tackle football might be a way to reduce damage. At the very least, she said, it would limit a player’s lifelong exposure to head injuries.
“I believe everyone needs to make their own decisions, given their own personal circumstances,” McKee added. “But I’d definitely encourage athletes to participate in sports that don’t involve head contact, and if they do, to try to adopt manners of play that reduce that impact.”
Limiting contact is an easy approach, McKee said, and taking helmets off for practice is known to change the style of play and reduce blows to the head.
“No head injury is good for you,” McKee said. But for athletes who have been injured, research dictates one absolute, she added: You have to leave the game long enough to recover.
“Injury of an unrecovered brain is very damaging,” she said.
znModeratorLamarcus Joyner was one of the NFL's best run-stopping CBs in 2016
Now in his fourth year in the league, Lamarcus Joyner is finally coming into his own as a pro defensive back. Last season the former second-round draft pick was one of the best situational cornerbacks in the NFL, particular against the run.
Per Pro Football Focus, he was No. 1 in the league among all qualifying cornerbacks in terms of run stop percentage.
Lamarcus Joyner was a force against the run last year pic.twitter.com/RXBZJVonVJ
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) July 25, 2017
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znModeratorFive things the Rams must accomplish in training camp
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
A year ago this time the Rams were still getting used to their new Southern California surroundings after making the 1,825-mile trip back home from St. Louis.
There was so much still hanging in the air.
An entire franchise was making the move across country. A practice facility was hurriedly being constructed to be ready in time for the regular season.
Families were still settling into new homes and neighborhoods and schools. Directions were required to find the nearest grocery store, let alone figure out how to get from one temporary practice site to another across three counties and more than 100 miles.
“In flux” is as good a way to describe it as any. And that’s not even getting into the actual football side of things. Although we all know how that turned out.
That isn’t to excuse the depths the Rams fell to in the eventual 4-12 season. Many of their problems were carryovers from their former home, unrelated to distance and upheaval.
It’s simply to point out there was an obvious and constant undercurrent of instability this time last year. And no matter how much the Rams tried to deny or manage or work around it, it was just wishful thinking. Instead they spent a year trying to get comfortable while never really getting comfortable.
The difference now can’t be understated. The Rams are no longer the new family on the block. They are established members of the community.
And as they approach their second training camp at UC Irvine as the Los Angeles Rams, you get the sense 100 percent of the focus is back on football rather than spread across various different areas.
The question is, will stability equate to a much-needed on-field turnaround?
For that to be the case, here are five things the Rams much accomplish over the next four weeks:
OFFENSIVE LINE MUST GET SQUARED AWAY
It would be easy to point to second-year quarterback Jared Goff or running back Todd Gurley as the keys to finally getting the Rams offense out of first gear, and their contributions are critical. But the reality is Goff and Gurley remain beholden to the point of attack.
There are tangible reasons, however, to believe the offensive line can at least elevate itself to average rather than the league worst it was last season.
The addition of free agent left tackle Andrew Whitworth changes the whole dynamic. A two-time Pro Bowler who continues to get better with age, Whitworth, 35, immediately locks down a position that has baffled and sabotaged the Rams for years. It means Goff’s backside is better protected, often as a one-man operation that allows tight ends to be more active in the passing game. It means Rodger Saffold can settle in at left guard full time and gives new Rams coach Sean McVay the flexibility to move Rob Havenstein from right tackle to right guard and move Jamon Brown to right tackle after playing guard last season.
Coupled with the addition of veteran center John Sullivan, the Rams offensive line has undergone almost a complete facelift from last year, when left tackle Greg Robinson’s ineffectiveness was a liability. If the changes equate to a significant improvement in play, it alters the whole feel of the Rams offense and gives Goff and Gurley a chance to succeed.
GOFF NEEDS TO TAKE CONTROL
It wasn’t like the Rams’ entire offseason was designed and executed with their second-year quarterback in mind, but close to it. And they desperately need the coaching change from the defensive-minded Jeff Fisher to the offensive-minded McVay and the rebuilt coaching and personnel infrastructure around Goff to help pave the path he takes to being a productive NFL quarterback.
The cards were stacked against Goff last year. To deny that would simply be dishonest. He was working behind the worst offensive line in the league, with wide receivers who struck little fear anyone and under an offensive coaching staff that lacked creativity and development experience.
All of which led to Goff playing under siege, his 0-6 record as a starter and questions about his validity as the top pick in the draft.
The Rams didn’t just clear the deck for Goff in year two, they pretty much built him a new ship and hired a new captain and crew. Now it’s on him to take advantage, which means developing trust that an improved offensive line will give him that extra blink of an eye to hang in the pocket and make the throw. It means building chemistry with new receivers Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp and Gerald Everett and holdovers Tyler Higbee and Tavon Austin.
And mostly it means Goff being able to digest a new offense, settle into his role as both a player and leader and prove he is the quarterback to lead the Rams into the regular season.
IT’S TIME FOR GURLEY TO REAPPEAR
The fall of Todd Gurley is one of the more inexplicable tumbles in recent NFL memory. Here’s a guy who burst onto the scene as a rookie in 2015 with 1,106 yards and 10 touchdowns in 13 games only to limp through 2016 with 885 yards and six touchdowns.
There is no doubt Gurley was running behind an offensive line that couldn’t consistently open holes and alongside a quarterback and wide receiver group incapable of challenging teams down field. And it all conspired against Gurley in the form of little to no running room while facing eight- and nine-man defensive fronts.
But there also is evidence to suggest when Gurley did have room to run, he didn’t always make the most of it. Maybe he wasn’t seeing things correctly. Maybe he was shell-shocked after taking the beating he did. Or maybe he was so stunned at actually seeing the occasional open running lane he didn’t react well.
Whatever the case, Gurley had a downright awful season, and the Rams have to figure out a way to get him untracked during training camp.
The Rams addressed the offensive line and wide receiver problems through free agency and the draft, and year two Jared Goff should be better than year one. Still, the personnel and maturation improvements remain only in theory for the time being.
However, Gurley should get some help in the more creative offense McVay brings, which features man-on-man blocking schemes that favor a north-south downhill runner like Gurley. Yes, McVay will also rely heavily on the spread-it-out, shotgun offense he’s historically preferred, but history suggests he does a good job using man and zone blocking schemes in the shotgun in order to take advantage of a power back like Gurley.
PASSING GAME WEAPONS NEED TO EMERGE
The Rams went heavy on wide receiver help through the draft and free agency while also adding a new vertical tight end threat. And the hope is newcomers Woods, Kupp, Everett and Josh Reynolds combine with holdovers Higbee, Austin, Nelson Spruce, Pharoh Cooper and Mike Thomas to lift a receiving group that struck little fear in the hearts of opposing defenses.
Woods and Kupp, in particular, fit a skill-set profile that should translate into much needed dependability, polish and accountability for Goff to tap into. Meanwhile, Higbee and Everett are envisioned as the ideal multi-faceted tight end tandem to operate in McVay’s offense.
SEAN McVAY MUST MAKE AN IMPACT
The Rams had an accountability and leadership problem under Fisher, with players privately complaining about a lack of urgency to get problems fixed and a sentiment that players weren’t being empowered to lead.
The hiring of McVay, 31, was intended to change that narrative by establishing a new culture in which players are held accountable but also given a voice to lead. Those changes were apparent during OTAs when players spoke highly of the veteran presence and leadership of newcomers Whitworth, Robert Woods and Connor Barwin, but also the communication and teaching skills of McVay and an experienced coaching staff that includes long-time defensive coordinator and former head coach Wade Phillips.
This is McVay’s first go-round as a head coach leading a team through training camp, and though most of the groundwork was laid during the offseason, it’s imperative he establishes the culture, identity and direction he intends to be the foundation his team rests on.
znModeratorRams are on more familiar ground but still in transition
By Gary Klein
link: http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-training-camp-20170725-story.html
Rams are in familiar territory.
With training camp set to open Saturday, team personnel have taken up residence at UC Irvine. Rookies are scheduled to arrive Wednesday, veterans by Friday.
Last year, save for another losing season, was all new for Rams players.
Their Orange County training camp was part of an odyssey that began with the team’s move from St. Louis. It included an extended stay in Oxnard and six weeks at Irvine before they landed at the team’s training facility in Thousand Oaks.
The Rams finished 4-12, their 10th consecutive season below .500.
The franchise is going through another major transition — coach Sean McVay was hired to replace the fired Jeff Fisher — but the toll of the Rams’ peripatetic 2016 can no longer be used as an excuse by players, coaches and team executives.
This year’s stay at Irvine has been shortened to about three weeks.
It includes 15 practices that are open to the public, including one with the Chargers, who are training a few miles away in Costa Mesa. (The Rams also are scheduled to practice once with the Chargers at the StubHub Center.)
The Rams start the preseason against the Dallas Cowboys on Aug. 12 at the Coliseum. They also will play the Oakland Raiders, Chargers and Green Bay Packers before the Sept. 10 regular-season opener against the Indianapolis Colts.
Here are five things to watch during training camp:
New kid in town
At a boyish 31, McVay could be mistaken for a fraternity brother on Irvine’s campus.
McVay has been a part of eight NFL training camps, but this will be his first in charge of the entire roster.
Throughout offseason workouts and minicamps, players described McVay as knowledgeable, organized and detail-oriented. McVay also has excelled in small and large media settings.
But McVay openly acknowledged that there was no pressure during the offseason.
That begins to change Saturday.
He’s No. 1
Quarterback Jared Goff arrived at training camp last year as the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft — but not at the top of the depth chart.
He is now.
Journeyman Case Keenum, the 2016 starter for nine games, is now the backup in Minnesota. Third-year pro Sean Mannion is Goff’s backup.
With seven games of experience and an offseason working with McVay and his staff, Goff is far more confident than the player fans saw struggling at the line of scrimmage during training camp last year.
Goff worked this offseason on his throwing mechanics with trainers Tom House and Justin Dedeaux. He added about 10 pounds over his 6-foot-4 frame and is listed at 223 pounds. And, according to McVay, offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur, quarterbacks coach Greg Olson and teammates, he dedicated himself to mastering the offense.
The Rams last week signed quarterback Dan Orlovsky, adding a veteran presence to a young position group.
Hall of Fame running back Eric Dickerson, no stranger to stirring controversy — remember his tiff with Fisher? — said in a recent television interview that he would start Mannion.
Unless Goff suffers an injury, a complete meltdown or an off-the-field setback, that’s not happening.
Show me the money
Defensive tackle Aaron Donald wants a new contract. A big one.
To make his point, he did not show up for voluntary organized-team activities. He attended but did not fully participate in a mandatory minicamp last month.
Donald, a Pro Bowl selection in each of his first three NFL seasons, has two years left on a rookie deal that will pay him about $3.2 million this season and $6.9 million in 2017.
In May, general manager Les Snead said the team was at the “serious stage” of negotiating a new contract. Chief operating officer Kevin Demoff publicly acknowledged in June that Donald deserves to be paid among the NFL’s elite players.
With running back Todd Gurley coming off a miserable season and Goff still unproven, Donald is the Rams’ only proven star.
His contract situation, to this point, has not been contentious. The Rams cannot allow it to become so.
Veteran presence
The Rams signed free-agent left tackle Andrew Whitworth and receiver Robert Woods — for a combined $30 million in guaranteed money —- to bolster an offense that ranked last in the NFL the last two seasons.
Whitworth replaces Greg Robinson, the disappointing No. 2 overall pick in 2014 who was jettisoned to Detroit. Woods ostensibly replaces Kenny Britt, a 1,000-yard receiver last season who signed with the Cleveland Browns.
The Rams also added backup running back Lance Dunbar and center John Sullivan.
New defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, 70, hand-picked several players he coached with other teams, including cornerback Kayvon Webster and linebacker Connor Barwin.
Webster will compete to start opposite Trumaine Johnson, the franchise-tagged, five-year veteran who will earn nearly $17 million this season after he and the Rams could not come to terms on a long-term contract.
Barwin will play opposite Robert Quinn, a two-time Pro Bowl end making the transition to linebacker in Phillips’ hybrid 3-4 scheme.
Fresh faces
Rookie Cooper Kupp, a third-round draft pick from Eastern Washington, is listed along with Tavon Austin and Woods as a starting receiver on the depth chart entering training camp.
Kupp is one of several first-year players who could play significant roles.
Tight end Gerald Everett, a second-round pick from South Alabama, and safety John Johnson, a third-round pick from Boston College, also will compete for playing time.
Receiver Josh Reynolds, fullback Sam Rogers, linebacker Samson Ebukam and defensive linemen Ejuan Price and Tanzel Smart are other 2017 draft picks who could contribute.
znModeratorJuly 25, 2017 at 7:47 pm in reply to: Goff's ninth game? articles on Goff in OTAs & mini-camp & up to training camp #71262
znModeratorcompare that to now with mcvay, lafleur, and olson.
although mcvay was never a qb coach. but he was offensive coordinator and worked with cousins i’m sure.
I know what you mean, but, McVay was a coordinator for 3 seasons (2014-6). While LaFleur was a qb coach for 6 total seasons (Washington 2010-13, Notre Dame 2014, Atlanta 2015-16), he has never been a coordinator. The real aces here, IMO, are Olson (qb coach and coordinator in the pros for 16 years from 2001 through 2016) and Kromer, who isn’t directly involved with qbs but does the running game which in turn as we know helps them young qbs.
znModeratorWhat are your thoughts on Kromer and the OLine? Do you believe the OLine will play well this year? Are there any concerns with the OLine, not including injuries? What concerns would it be?
I am reasonably optimistic. A few injuries could ruin this (spoken like a veteran Rams fan) but right now, there are reasons to be fairly optimistic about all this, including:
Kromer
Whitworth
Sullivan
I think Hav at guard, Brown at ROT will work.
I think that while the line had its own issues last year, Gurley ALSO had issues, and that he is working on that. A better Gurley means a more effective OL means a better Goff which means a better OL too.
The Rams line in 2013 was ranked 13th by PFF and I think this one is at least as good as that one was.
Whitworth/Long. I rate this as equal, with AW being the better pass blocker of the 2.
Saffold/Saffold. This as we all know could be just an opportunity for someone like Donnal to step in. Donnal did okay at guard last year.
Sullivan/Wells. Different types but when they’re both at their best, equal.
Hav/Williams+Smith. I think Hav is probably better than that combo.
Brown/Barksdale. More of an unknown. If Brown is at least as good as Barksdale was that year, then, they’re set across the board..
znModeratorfrom PFF: Ranking all 32 backfields heading into the 2017 season
http://www.ramsondemand.com/threads/pff-ranking-all-32-backfields-rams-26.50195/
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26. LA Rams

Todd Gurley and fellow first-rounder Melvin Gordon have had two polar opposite seasons to start their careers. After a strong rookie season, Gurley massively declined in 2016 to a 53rd ranked 50.7 season grade. With new head coach Sean McVay in town, Gurley should be in line to have a bounce back year but its tough to say how much so. Running backs needs to be able to show patience and create yards on their own and Gurley was able to do neither in 2016 as he forced just 28 missed tackles and gained 2.2 yards per carry after contact. Lance Dunbar (48.9) will spell Gurley and FB Cory Harkey (73.4 run-block grade) will lead the way, though Sam Rogers was drafted and will compete for that starting fullback position.
July 25, 2017 at 12:03 pm in reply to: Goff's ninth game? articles on Goff in OTAs & mini-camp & up to training camp #71248
znModeratorGoff becoming a bust could set this franchise back another half-decade. Goff figuring it out can help make the Rams a sustainable winner quickly.
See I don’t buy this. First, I don’t expect Goff to bust, but for argument’s sake let’s say he did. That would put the Rams in the position to try again at qb. That would mean picking one in a year that is stronger at qb than 2017 was, plus also maybe thinking about free agents in a year that could possibly include Cousins, Stafford, Brees and Garoppolo.
But would that mean they are set back? If they had to move on from Goff?
Well the RGIII trade didn’t set Washington back a half decade. They reached the playoffs in 2015.
July 25, 2017 at 11:42 am in reply to: Goff's ninth game? articles on Goff in OTAs & mini-camp & up to training camp #71247
znModeratorRams’ long-term success begins and ends with Jared Goff
Alden Gonzalez
Figure out the quarterback position.
The Rams’ offensive struggles aren’t just a last year thing. They aren’t just a Jeff Fisher thing, either. The franchise’s ineptitude in this department runs a whole lot deeper. Ten years, to be exact. The Rams’ offense has ranked outside of the top 20 in Defense-adjusted Value Over Average (DVOA) every year since 2007. Yes, 2007. That stretches through five head coaches — two of them on an interim tag — and seven offensive coordinators. It’s a plague.
During that 10-year run from 2007 to ’16, the Rams saw 14 different quarterbacks make starts for them. They are, in some semblance of order: Marc Bulger, Gus Frerotte, Brock Berlin, Trent Green, Kyle Boller, Keith Null, Sam Bradford, A.J. Feeley, Kellen Clemens, Austin Davis, Shaun Hill, Nick Foles, Case Keenum and Jared Goff.
Now, about that last guy:
The Rams moved up 14 spots to draft Goff No. 1 overall in 2016, as you probably already know. It didn’t go well. You might have heard that, too. Goff, widely considered relatively raw coming out of Cal, never challenged for a starting spot during training camp and never won a game during the season. He took control of the offense during the final seven weeks, completing 54.6 percent of his passes, averaging 5.3 yards per attempt, throwing five touchdowns to seven interceptions, and finishing with a Total QBR of 22.9, dead last among those who started at least five times.
Is it really fair to judge Goff off that one season? Aside from the fact that it’s only a seven-game sample, and that he was only 22, and that he was transitioning out of a collegiate offense that didn’t require him to call a play from the huddle or take a snap from under center, his supporting cast was atrocious. The Rams’ offensive line was a mess, enough of one that Todd Gurley, the Offensive Rookie of the Year just a season earlier, barely had room to breathe. Their receiving corps continued to be less than adequate. And the entire Fisher-led staff entered 2016 with one season of directly coaching NFL quarterbacks.
You don’t have to be some wide-eyed optimist to believe we might see a completely different Goff this year, now that offensive-minded Sean McVay has taken over as head coach and now that Goff has an entire year of NFL football under his belt. There’s talent there. A player doesn’t get drafted before everybody else without it, regardless of whatever circumstances played into it. It’s all about whether the Rams can actually tap into it and finally develop a legitimate, reliable starting quarterback, the kind this organization hasn’t had since Bulger hung it up.
Yes, Sean Mannion, a third-round pick in 2015 — and the man Eric Dickerson wants as his quarterback — looms in the background. Sure, Kirk Cousins will probably be available next offseason. And of course, next year’s draft looks a little bit more promising at quarterback, especially if USC’s Sam Darnold declares early. But what the Rams really need is for Goff to solidify himself as the guy. It’s why he’s the focus of the final entry in this series. Goff becoming a bust could set this franchise back another half-decade. Goff figuring it out can help make the Rams a sustainable winner quickly.
Goff added about 10 pounds since the start of the 2017 calendar year. He was exceedingly present throughout the offseason program, and he has already impressed teammates on the field.
He’s doing everything he can.
“He wants to be great,” said offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur, who spent the last two years working with Matt Ryan and the Atlanta Falcons. “He’s doing everything that we’ve asked him to do, and then some. He’s working hard every day. I think he’s getting better every day.”
July 25, 2017 at 2:38 am in reply to: Goff's ninth game? articles on Goff in OTAs & mini-camp & up to training camp #71241
znModeratorfrom 2017 fantasy football projections: QBs
Michael Fabiano

The Rams will have a new look on offense, as the team signed 31-year-old Sean McVay to be their new head coach. While Matt LaFleur will take over as the offensive coordinator, it’s McVay who will serve as the play caller and be given the task of developing Jared Goff into an NFL quarterback. In his three years as the coordinator in Washington, McVay helped Kirk Cousins finish in the top 10 in fantasy points at the position twice (2015, 2016). … While McVay, LaFleur and quarterbacks coach Greg Olson have good track records as talent developers, Goff will be hard pressed to make a real fantasy impact in an offense that will need to run through Todd Gurley to find success.
July 25, 2017 at 1:49 am in reply to: Dickerson on Colin Cowherd being controversial about Rams QB situation #71240
znModeratorI am not impressed by Allbright, but we will find out soon enough what the deal is.
I don;t know anything about him. But he got this issue started (Orlovsky as a Mannion replacement) so he’s news right now.
July 25, 2017 at 1:06 am in reply to: Goff's ninth game? articles on Goff in OTAs & mini-camp & up to training camp #71238
znModeratorIs Rams QB Jared Goff making progress?
Yahoo Sports Videos
Yahoo’s Pete Thamel talks to LA Rams head coach Sean McVay and OC Matt Lafleur to find out if last year’s #1 pick is making strides on the field.
https://hk.video.yahoo.com/popular/rams-qb-jared-goff-making-223828118.html
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