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znModeratorAw man the front office is out here cookin! đđ¨đžâđł #Rams
— Rodger Saffold (@Rodger_Saffold) April 3, 2018
znModeratorAndy Benoit@Andy_Benoit
NFL’s highest-scoring team has now added one of the dozen or so true No. 1 WRs in football. #Rams + @brandincooks
znModeratorESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
Brandin Cooks is one of four players to record at least 3 seasons of 1,000 Rec Yds & 7 TD before his 25th birthday.
znModeratorBut the Rams better sign him to a long term deal. I donât want to give up a first round pick for a rental.
Maybe this escalates.
Next year they trade 2 first round picks for a guy the day before his contract expires.
znModeratorThe Rob Gronkowski situation remains unchanged: The #Patriots TE is expected to return following what was a challenging season. pic.twitter.com/ztrFOpB6rT
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 2, 2018
znModeratorDebunking Israelâs Talking Points on Deadly Gaza Protests
Hamas is not Gaza and Gaza is not Hamas. Civilian Gazansâ willingness to walk to that fence is not a measure of their support for Hamas. It measures their yearning to express themselves as humans and claim their freedom, even at immediate risk.
Marilyn Garson, Haâaretz
Marilyn Garson worked with communities affected by war from 1998 to 2015, including in the Gaza Strip from 2011 to 2015. She writes from New Zealand. Her blog is Transforming Gaza. Twitter: @skinonbothsides
In 1988 at the gates of Jerusalemâs Old City, I watched Palestinian youths face down Israeli soldiers. The soldiers held rifles, while the Palestinians held stones. That asymmetry sent the Judaism of my childhood crashing headlong into my sense of justice. The stones demanded that I ask, âWhat could make a young man risk his life this way?â
My work with war-affected communities later brought me to the Gaza Strip. Living there from 2011 to 2015, I confronted Israelâs power from the ground.
On Friday, Land Day, unarmed Gazans confronted this power once more; they were commemorating the six unarmed protesters who were killed 42 years ago in 1976 as they protested the expropriation of Arab-owned land in northern Israel. Organizers in Gaza had called for a season of nonviolent protest lasting until the day of the so-called Nakba, when Palestinians mourn the losses of 1948, asserting the rights of refugees who comprise the majority of Gazaâs population.
Tens of thousands of Gazans walked toward the border facing a heavily armed Israeli line. They walked toward rifles and drones. Israel had announced its deployment of a hundred snipers authorized to use live ammunition. And fire they did; the United Nations reports 15 dead and 1,416 wounded, including 750 hit by live ammunition, of whom 20 are in critical condition.
Gazans walked into all that, demanding that we ask, âWhat is happening in Gaza to make them risk their lives?â That is the bedrock question. Layers of language are being heaped upon it, to obscure it.
Even before the protest began, Israeli spokespeople framed it preemptively as a Hamas production. If the march is merely Hamasâ political positioning, they imply, there is no need to seek a deeper understanding.
However, Hamas is not Gaza and Gaza is not Hamas. Civilian Gazansâ willingness to walk to that fence is not a measure of their support for Hamas. It measures their yearning to express themselves as humans and claim their freedom, even at immediate risk.
Benjamin Netanyahu presented the killings as the defense of Israelâs border. However, a border is an agreed line. This line is the unilateral, military demarcation of an illegal blockade.
The Israeli army additionally militarizes a belt of Gazaâs agricultural land, intruding a further 300 to 500 meters into Gaza. That is the zone in which live fire is being used. Gazans are walking and being killed, on their own land. Walking in protest is not a capital crime in other places, and human rights group BâTselem calls Israelâs attempt to control the Gaza protest with live fire âabsurd.â
Netanyahu declared his policy of âwar on stone-throwersâ in 2015, arguing that a stone justifies the use of deadly force. Perhaps to Humpty Dumpty it does. However, since those nights of the 2014 war, when Israel rained bombs onto Gaza each minute, I have wanted to ask him exactly how much deadly force is needed to justify a stone.
At the moment, the stones detract from the greater power of unarmed Gazans, walking.
Israeli voices have justified even the countryâs most grievous violence against Gaza as being necessary to safeguard Israelisâ normal lives. Normal? Two million Palestinians exist behind a wall, deprived of their fundamental rights to clean water, health, work, mobility. They are held in place by a structural violence that has become Israelâs lifestyle, propped up by law, dehumanizing rhetoric, politics and arms.
The failure to resolve the Palestinian conflict has helped to make Israel the most militarized country on earth. It is that choice that the violence protects, and thereâs nothing normal about it.
Chemi Shalev fears âpreposterousâ comparisons to Birmingham, Alabama and apartheid South Africa, if these protests âcompel the IDF to kill and maim unarmed civilians.â No one is compelling the IDF to kill.
Gaza doesnât need to be Birmingham or Soweto to learn from them. When entrenched injustice refuses to right itself, mass nonviolent protest can help build and broaden the pressure that upends systemic wrongs.
To understand why Gazans are willing to pit their bodies against an army, peel away the political positioning on all sides. Instead ask, âWhat quality of life has convinced tens of thousands of human beings that such danger represents their best hope â and why arenât they allowed to walk?â
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znModeratorLast week, we mentioned this in the GamePlan (https://t.co/3cCCQbHsEU), and I'd repeat it — my expectation is the Patriots will be getting trade calls on TE Rob Gronkowski. In fact, a couple teams told me in Orlando that they were planning on making them.
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 2, 2018
znModeratorRumors continue to swirl around this.
I am not in favor of it myself.
They can field a good offense to go with a strong defense just based on what they have (plus the draft).
2 picks? Naw that’s too much.
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April 2, 2018 at 4:06 pm in reply to: espn NFC west panel: Do Rams have best overall defense in NFL? #84810
znModerator#Rams opponents pass protection plans for next season: pic.twitter.com/agVLA2rO8z
— Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) March 26, 2018
znModeratorThe Professor sez:
According to http://www.draftace.com/draft-visit-tracker/, the rams are the only teams to have had pre-draft visits with OT Tyrell Crosby Oregon and LB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Oklahoma. They are also only other team that has had a visits with DE Justin Lawler SMU (TB) and one team with DE Joe Ostman Central Michigan (Oak).
As teams are allowed 30 visits and many teams only have 5 to 10 visits listed, these players may be interviewed by other teams (or were interviewed at the combine, senior bowl, etc.).
The rams also interviewed the RB from SDSU Rashaad Penny, but he shows up on about 8-10 teams lists.
April 2, 2018 at 1:45 pm in reply to: grading/assessing Rams off-season so far (starts with Whitlock/Schlereth debate) #84807
znModeratorApril 2, 2018 at 1:43 pm in reply to: grading/assessing Rams off-season so far (starts with Whitlock/Schlereth debate) #84806
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znModeratorPredictably this is just not getting press.
znModeratorKurt is an interesting case, as i recall. Not many comebacks?
He’s ranked 10th on this guy’s list of 10 comeback qbs, which was written in 2009
10. Kurt Warner, Arizona Cardinals
Comebacks: 8 in 37 opportunities (22%)
NFL Tenure: 12 years (Cardinals, New York Giants, St. Louis Rams)
Greatest Comeback: Warner’s career is one giant comeback. He went from getting released by the Green Bay Packers, to stocking grocery store shelves, to winning a Super Bowl in 2000 against the Tennessee Titans with a game-winning touchdown pass in the fourth quarter.
znModeratorBrady, Staubach, Manning, Montana, TheismanâŚ
Well those are great QBs for sure.
But what it tells me, is Football is a team game, and if you are gonna build up a good comeback record, you need a good coach and a good team.
Belichick, Tom Landry, Bill Walsh, Joe GibbsâŚ.etc.
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vI put up a few articles there. In 2006 Football Outsiders did a 10 year study of qbs’s winning percentage in comeback situations. You know who had the highest winning percentage in that situation at that point? Marc Bulger (67%). The steady demolition of the Rams OL after 2006 did away with that, so, it didn’t last.
I put a lot on the qb in that situation. Aaron Rodgers for example has been on some top teams with good coaching and he has a miserable winning percentage in that situation.
In fact I think the reason a lot of coaches get listed as “tops” is precisely because they have qbs who are good in that situation.
Either way, it;’s a part of the game that requires more from the qb than any other situation IMO. The qb has to execute under conditions where the defense knows they have to pass and also know that time is not on the side of the offense. That means he has to play as well as or better than normal under much more overall pressure (not just from the defense but from the clock). There’s no bailing out and saying “well we’ll score in the next series.” There often is no next series. You can’t bail. You can’t say, well we’ll do the smart thing here and live to score when we get the ball back. You have to make the plays, or it’s L-column city. To me all that adds up to put things on the qb far more than normal.
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znModeratorfrom old article: Quarterbacks and Fourth Quarter Comebacks
Jason McKinley
2006
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2006/quarterbacks-and-fourth-quarter-comebacks
We looked at every game from the past ten seasons to see which recent quarterbacks have been the best at rallying their teams back from a deficit. And although he was known for comebacks early in his career, the top comeback quarterback might surprise you: it’s Jake Plummer, slightly ahead of Peyton Manning and Vinny Testaverde. It’s a surprising conclusion, but that’s the kind of insight rational statistical analysis can provide.

Plummer’s comeback ability has drifted towards average since his first few seasons but his overall numbers still rate the best. Under Vince Tobin, he was a stellar 10-11 when trailing by one score in the fourth, and since then he is a solid 9-17. Peyton Manning holds the single-season mark with six comeback wins in 1999. Only the coldest, hardest, football fact-seeking Patriots fans would express surprise at Peyton Manning’s high rank, but Vinny Testaverde is a bit of an eye-opener. However, Vinny was a comeback machine in 2000 and 2001, racking up nine wins in 17 comeback chances during those two seasons with the Jets. No other quarterback in the last decade had more than eight comeback wins in any two-year span.
Tom Brady is next on the list and, remember, these numbers do include the postseason. Brady is one of only a handful of quarterbacks with a winning record in more than three games with a fourth-quarter deficit. The others are Marc Bulger (10-5), Ben Roethlisberger (7-2), Steve Young (7-4) and John Elway (7-6). Bulger, who ranks eighth by this metric, is the only one in that group that has yet to win a Super Bowl.
(Elway holds the NFL record for fourth-quarter comebacks with 47, but this study only includes the final three years of his career.)
Donovan McNabb managed to crack the top 10 despite the handicap of not having Terrell Owens on his team for most of his career. When trailing by a close score in the fourth-quarter, McNabb’s record is 10-12 without Owens and 2-3 with him. McNabb is one of three NFC Champion quarterbacks in the top 10, along with Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins. Delhomme has had at least one successful comeback in every year he’s had an opportunity. That includes his one chance playing for Mike Ditka’s Saints at the end of the 1999 season. Another of Ditka’s short-term quarterbacks with the Saints, Kerry Collins, actually did most of his comeback damage between 2000 and 2002 with the Giants. He had 11 comebacks in 23 opportunities in those three seasons, which is the highest number of comebacks for any quarterback over a three-year span.
The interesting cases of Jon Kitna and Jay Fiedler complete the top 10. Neither has ever been considered a franchise quarterback. Neither has a rifle arm. Neither was drafted coming out of college and both had to cut their teeth in NFL Europe before getting a chance in the NFL. Yet based upon their performance, it can certainly be argued that they deserved every one of the 139 NFL starts that they’ve racked up. In the last decade, Kitna and Fiedler combined for 25 comeback wins in 60 opportunities. This is six more come from behind victories than Drew Bledsoe, with one less opportunity. That is not meant as a condemnation of Bledsoe, who has been very average in this situation.
znModeratorold article: Aaron Rodgers’ hidden weakness
Scott Kacsmar2013
http://insider.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/9711636/nfl-why-aaron-rodgers-not-truly-great
Trailing 34-30 with 3:47 remaining on Sunday, Aaron Rodgers had a chance to lead a game-winning touchdown drive to help the Green Bay Packers escape with a victory in Cincinnati. With the stage set for a classic finish after a wild game, this should have been a legacy-growing moment for the player many believe is the best quarterback in the NFL, right?
Not so fast. The Packers are just 5-24 (.172) in games when Rodgers had the ball in the fourth quarter, trailing by 1-8 points. Five comebacks in 29 tries? Tony Romo, considered by some to be a choker, led five comeback wins in the 2012 season alone. Among active starters, only Cam Newton (2-16) has a worse record than Rodgers.
He has numerous passing records, both a regular-season and Super Bowl MVP, but this is the one area on the rĂŠsumĂŠ that continues to be a sore spot for Rodgers. Sunday was one of his worst finishes yet.
This time, while the drive was long in plays (13), it ended at the Cincinnati 20 after Rodgers’ pass was tipped on fourth-and-5. That was the third tipped ball of the drive, as the Packers’ offense ended the game with two interceptions, a fumble returned for the go-ahead score, and this turnover on downs.
These close-game failures have been the hush-hush hallmark of coach Mike McCarthy’s otherwise successful tenure as Packers head coach. While the blame should be distributed everywhere, why are we not looking at the quarterback more?
Rodgers arguably had one of the worst games of his career on Sunday, but like with past greats, that would have been forgiven with one game-winning drive at the end. One great drive and the Packers could be 2-1. Instead, they have started 1-2 for the second straight season.
It’s always the same story for Green Bay: win big or lose close. When you think of Rodgers at his best, you think of the six touchdowns in Houston last year or the demolition of Atlanta in the 2010 playoffs. You don’t think of late-game heroics, because they simply do not exist in great supply. Sunday was a perfect opportunity, but it was the latest in a long line of failures for the league’s best front-running quarterback and team.
Historically, clutch wins have been the ultimate “cream rises to the top” stat for quarterbacks. Since 1950, 10 quarterbacks have held at least a share of the record for most fourth-quarter comeback wins. The first nine are in the Hall of Fame, while the current record holder, Peyton Manning (38), will soon join them.
There is some historical data to show the crunch-time disconnect in Green Bay. The following table lists two different career records (playoffs included) for 24 notable quarterbacks. The first mark is for fourth quarter comeback opportunities (4QC), which are defined as the team having the ball in the fourth quarter with a one-score deficit. The second record is for all game-winning drive opportunities (GWD), which include games where it was tied in the fourth quarter or overtime, in addition to games with a one-score deficit. The rankings fall according to the game-winning drive performance. Pay attention to where Rodgers ranks among some of the all-time greats.
Among the top eight, you’ll see some of the names in the conversation for greatest QB of all time, including Brady, Montana, Peyton Manning, Marino, Elway and Staubach. Meanwhile, the bottom group is not nearly of the same caliber. That includes Rodgers’ predecessor, Brett Favre, who had many late-game meltdowns but enough opportunities to shine, as well.
Rodgers’ 5-24 record in comeback efforts includes an 0-18 mark against teams that finished the season .500 or better. That could grow to 0-20 depending on what the 49ers and Bengals do this season.
Green Bay’s dominance does come into play. The Packers’ historic 19-game winning streak without trailing in the fourth quarter (during the 2010 and 2011 seasons) limited the need for late-game heroics, and in fact, the 2010 Packers are one of just three Super Bowl winners to not have a single fourth-quarter comeback win. But even accounting for that great streak, Rodgers has had plenty of opportunities to rack up comebacks (29) and game-winning drives (35).
Instead, Rodgers is two standard deviations below the average overall winning percentage for this set of quarterbacks. His record in these situations is one of the worst in NFL history, which is shocking given his overall caliber of play and success. It is hard to fathom how a team capable of winning so many games in impressive fashion cannot finish in crunch time with a prolific, record-setting quarterback and a ball-hawking defense.
Rodgers is 9-26 (.257) when he has to score the winning points in the fourth quarter or overtime, but 49-5 (.907) in all other games, meaning the Packers are often on the winning end of blowouts. That .650 difference in winning percentage is the largest I have found in a sample of 67 quarterbacks.
That’s more proof that Rodgers and the Packers are the greatest front-runners the NFL has ever seen, but why does this keep happening each season?
There is a tendency for Rodgers to hold onto the ball too long as he tries to push it down the field. Sometimes, when you need just a field goal, it’s best to take what the defense gives you and get the ball out quickly. Avoiding negative plays is pivotal when field position is so important. Yet Rodgers has been sacked on 10.4 percent of his drop-backs in the fourth quarter and overtime in his 26 failed game-winning drives. That’s simply too high. It’s probably not a coincidence that Rodgers is the only quarterback in NFL history to lose five consecutive overtime games with the same team.
Of course, some of the 26 losses speak well for him. He has put Green Bay ahead seven times in the fourth quarter when trailing, only for the team to go on to lose the game. The defense is certainly deserving of blame for this.
Green Bay has allowed 20 game-winning drives since 2008, which is third-most in the league over that span. Last season, there was the Hail Mary to Seattle’s Golden Tate on that game’s final play. In Week 1 this year, Aaron Rodgers led the Packers to a 28-24 lead, only to watch Colin Kaepernick and the Niners score the game’s last 10 points for a San Francisco win.
While it’s been a team problem, all quarterbacks have close losses in which the defense failed them. The difference — in comparison to Rodgers — is that they always seem to have more wins, too.
Ultimately, these games are not just about the go-ahead drive, either. On Sunday, Rodgers threw a bad interception in the fourth quarter when Green Bay led 30-21 and had the ball at Cincinnati’s 27. That likely cost him a bigger lead. On the next drive, he took a sack that lost 6 yards, setting up a third-and-12 that would eventually lead to the fourth-down fumble-recovery TD that put Green Bay behind.
The Packers have a lot of issues in games that are late and close. How much of the problem is tied to Rodgers is a debate that will only intensify if this pattern persists. But based on NFL history, I know this: If a team is in the fourth quarter of a close game, and there’s so little hope the QB will find a way to win, then that team probably doesn’t have the best quarterback in the league. For Rodgers to earn the status as one of the true greats at the position, he needs to show more in these moments.
Sunday was another opportunity wasted.
znModeratorIn case you were thinking this is dangerous, these are fake knives. Just take a minute to appreciate the hand work and fluidity. Beast!! When hard work meets talent.
— Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) April 2, 2018
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Aaron Donaldâs scary-looking workout was real, but the knives apparently were not
It would seem that Aaron Donaldâs training session, video of which caused quite a stir Sunday, was not an April Foolsâ Day prank. However, the Rams defensive lineman eventually acknowledged that the knives involved â yes, knives â were not âreal.â
That information undoubtedly came as a relief to the Rams and their fans, not to mention anyone else who has enjoyed watching the 2017 NFL defensive player of the year wreck opposing offenses. Until his clarification, it sure looked like Donaldâs frightening workout was meant to provide an exceedingly painful incentive for him to keep swatting away the arms of his training partner.
The knives ainât real hahah
— AD_99 (@AaronDonald97) April 1, 2018
Okay, so the knives were not, in fact, a threat to leave Donald bleeding all over the turf while learning how to defeat blockers.
In retrospect, the Rams would have been looking daggers at anyone even thinking about putting their star defensive player in that much actual peril during an offseason workout. Nevertheless, itâs not hard to imagine that even props-department knives could produce an effective psychological reaction, and they certainly did on the Internet, which had some sharp takes on the video.
If the video wasnât as scary as it initially appeared, the thought that Donald is working hard to get better has to be legitimately terrifying to the Ramsâ opponents. Statistics rarely do justice to interior defenders, but Donald still racked up some impressive numbers in 2017 with 32 tackles, 11 sacks, five forced fumbles and one pass defensed, and of which came in just 14 games.
In 2018, Donald will be paired with the Ramsâ most recent acquisition, Ndamukong Suh, giving offensive linemen twice as many nightmares. The former Dolphins and Lions star figures to occupy his share of blockers, allowing Donald even more chances to slice through lines and carve up quarterbacks.
In the meantime, take it from Eagles defensive lineman Chris Long, who would know a thing or two about how much value Donald got from his training session, to point out that the blades involved were the only dull aspect to the video.
znModeratorMatthew Berry@MatthewBerryTMR
I copied that from another site.
Unfortunately it didn’t occur to me till just now to look for a date. It’s March 13. That was before OBJ became a trade item.
So it may not be current.
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Based on conversations I had at the combine, my expectation is the Rams let Josh Reynolds and Mike Thomas battle it out for #3WR behind Woods/Kupp & not try to replace Watkins role via FA. https://t.co/MuV5WGGcTq
— Matthew Berry (@MatthewBerryTMR) March 13, 2018
znModeratorbigjimram21 wrote:
Doing some reading
2019 may have as many as 5/6 LOT first round guys and 2/3 more in round two.
Guess unless the Rams see the ND kid as LOT quality AND he were to fall they may take him.
But none of the others are sure fire starters on the left side. So get one like Crosby in the third,
and maybe a G and or C later. If Crosby looks like he may be it fine, if not move him to the right
side and grab one of the 8/9 guys in 2019.
znModeratorHekkerâs in trouble I see.
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vFwiw…
5 OL
3 TE
5 WR
4 RB
4 DT
8 LB/edge
5 safeties
4 CBs
1 P
2 LS
znModeratorUh, is @AaronDonald97 the best defensive player in the league because he trains against actual knives? đŽ (via @2_10ths) pic.twitter.com/3PgJAjqBUk
— The Checkdown (@thecheckdown) April 1, 2018
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The knives ainât real hahah
— AD_99 (@AaronDonald97) April 1, 2018
znModeratorBigGame81 did this:
Current list of prospects Rams have interviewed. Thought this list might be useful:
East/West ShrineGame:
WR Devonte Boyd, UNLV
G Jaryd Jones-Smith, Pittsburgh
G Salesi Uhatafe, Utah
DT Deadrin Senat, USF
LB Chris Worley, Ohio State
LB Jacob Pugh, Florida State
LB Joel Lanning, Iowa State
CB Damon Webb, Ohio State
CB Linden Stephens, Cincinnati
S Jamar Summers, UConn
S Chucky Williams, Louisville
P Joseph Davidson, Bowling Green
LS Hunter Bradley, Mississippi StateSeniorBowl:
RB Ito Smith
RB Akrum Wadley
TE Tyler Conklin, Central Michigan
TE Durham Smythe, Notre Dame
TE Ian Thomas, Indiana
OT Tyrell Crosby
DL Bilal Nichols
S Trayvon Henderson, Hawaii
LS Ike Powell, AuburnProDay Meetings:
RB Rashaad Penny, San Diego State
WR Dante Pettis, Washington
C Tony Adams, NC State
OT Nick Gates, Nebraska
NT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
NT Vita Vea, Washington
EDGE Ogbo Okoronkwo, Oklahoma
EDGE Joe Ostman, C. Michigan
CB Quenton Meeks, Stanford
CB Chandon Sullivan, Georgia State
S Trayvon Henderson, Hawaii
S Justin Reid, Stanford30 Exclusive Pre-Draft Visits:
RB Rashaad Penny, San Diego State
WR Daurice Fountain, Northern Iowa
WR Dante Pettis, Washington
OT Tyrell Crosby, Oregon
EDGE Ogbo Okoronkwo, Oklahoma
EDGE Joe Ostman, Central MichiganPrivate Workout:
WR DJ Myers, Midwestern State
LB CJ Johnson, East Texas Baptist[
znModeratorTop 10 QB prospects of past 3 NFL draft classes: Darnold No. 1
Daniel Jeremiah
Editor’s note: Jeremiah’s look at how this year’s group of quarterback prospects stacks up against the top QB talents that have entered the league in the previous two drafts.
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I always believe it’s helpful during the evaluation process to rank the current group of prospects among the players at the position from the previous two drafts. I recently looked up the grades I gave to the quarterbacks in the ’16 and ’17 draft classes and I slotted them in with this year’s crop of talent. Here’s the order I have them in based on their draft grade.
1) Sam Darnold, USC
Draft class: 2018
The skinny: I had very similar draft grades on each of the top four players on this list. However, I gave Darnold a slightly higher grade than Carson Wentz because of his durability and level of competition from college.2) Carson Wentz, North Dakota State
Draft class: 2016; second overall pick, Philadelphia Eagles
The skinny: Wentz had an ideal skill set coming out of NDSU. His ability to drive the ball accurately and create with his legs made him a special prospect.3) Josh Rosen, UCLA
Draft class: 2018
The skinny: Rosen is the best pure passer in this time frame (2016-2018). His motion, footwork and arm talent are off the charts.4) Jared Goff, Cal
Draft class: 2016; first overall pick, Los Angeles Rams
The skinny: Goff was very smooth and accurate at Cal. He was an effortless thrower and you’ve seen that carry over to the NFL.5) Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
Draft class: 2018
The skinny: Mayfield is the shortest member of this group (measured in at 6-foot 5/8 and 215 pounds at the NFL Scouting Combine), but I gave him a strong grade based on his touch, playmaking ability and toughness.6) Josh Allen, Wyoming
Draft class: 2018
The skinny: Allen was an inconsistent performer at Wyoming, but his good moments are incredibly impressive. He is very capable of outplaying my draft grade.7) Deshaun Watson, Clemson
Draft class: 2017; 12th overall pick, Houston Texans
The skinny: I had Watson as my highest-rated quarterback in last year’s class, but based on early returns, I was way too low with my grade. I had concerns with his accuracy and decision making, but he cleaned up both areas last fall. He was off to a remarkable start as a rookie before suffering an ACL tear in November.8) Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina
Draft class: 2017; second overall pick, Chicago Bears
The skinny: I loved Trubisky’s talent, but he had a very small sample size of production. He was a full-time starter for only one year at UNC, but his upside was tremendous.9) DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
Draft class: 2017; 52nd overall pick (Round 2), Cleveland Browns
The skinny: I had a big grade on Kizer heading into his final year at Notre Dame, but he struggled mightily to maintain that level of play. I ended up dropping his grade prior to the 2017 draft and he landed in a really tough spot in Cleveland. He was rushed into action before he was ready to play, and the results weren’t pretty. Now, he’s getting a fresh start after being traded to the Green Bay Packers earlier this month.10) Paxton Lynch, Memphis
Draft class: 2016; 26th overall pick, Denver Broncos
The skinny: Lynch was a polarizing player coming out of Memphis. His size, arm talent and athleticism were enticing, but I had concerns about the adjustment he would have to make from his college offense to an NFL system.
znModeratorThis could be a lot of fun to watch. Maybe Brockers, Donald and Suh will shift positions pre-snap and drive opposing qbs crazy.
This is pedantic minutia and so on, BUT just for fun and conversation, I don’t see that. Donald can move to end or play 3 tech but he’s not an every down NT. Brockers and Suh can switch because both can play DE and NT (though I think Brockers is better at DE than NT). But I am not sure there’s an advantage there.
So I don’t see a whole lot of moving around in base 3/4 sets. You need someone good at NT on every down in those sets.
They can do that stuff in 4/3 sets all over the place.
znModeratorThe Rams will have some flexibility when they are in sub packages, which, according to ESPN Stats & Information, they ran 70.1 percent of the time last season.
Important detail.
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znModeratorRams confident Ndamukong Suh will adjust to new system
Alden Gonzalez
LOS ANGELES — No defensive lineman has played more snaps than Ndamukong Suh over the past eight years. He compiled 6,773 of them from 2010 to 2017, and 5,413 of those — nearly 80 percent — have come while lined up as a left defensive tackle, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
But that will hardly be the case with the Los Angeles Rams.
That’s the spot occupied by Aaron Donald, who, if you haven’t heard, is quite good. Instead, Suh will line up at nose tackle when the Rams are in their 3-4 base set, a spot where he has spent only about 3 percent of his career.
“Those are things that we talked about with Ndamukong,” Rams coach Sean McVay told reporters from the owners meetings in Orlando, Florida, earlier this week. “We wanted to make sure, ‘Hey, do you feel good about the way we envision you?'”
Clearly, Suh does. He signed a one-year, $14 million contract with the Rams earlier this week, choosing them over the New Orleans Saints, Tennessee Titans and potentially others, even though he’ll basically be playing out of position while operating out of a 3-4 system for the first time in his career.
Wade Phillips’ 3-4 scheme plays similarly to a 4-3 set, the most notable difference being that the edge rushers operate out of a standing position as opposed to a three-point stance. It’s still the one-gap penetrating front that Suh is accustomed to, situating defensive linemen between the opposing offensive linemen as opposed to lining up directly in front of them.
In base sets, Donald will remain the 3-technique, operating between the left tackle and the left guard. Michael Brockers will return to being situated to the outside of the opposing right tackle as the 5-technique, a position he switched to early in the 2017 season. And Suh will be situated between them as the nose tackle, between the opposing center and guard.
In slide protections, when a blitz is anticipated from the left outside linebacker — something the Rams did frequently with Robert Quinn last season — the Rams now can create a major dilemma for opposing offenses: Do they use their center to double-team Donald or Suh?
Neither answer is really the correct one.
“It provides a lot of unique challenges and opportunities for us to kind of free up those guys to get the one-on-one matchups,” McVay said. “I think if thereâs anything you can appreciate and respect so much about what Wade has done is heâs going to try to put great players in good spots to go make plays.”
The Rams will have some flexibility when they are in sub packages, which, according to ESPN Stats & Information, they ran 70.1 percent of the time last season. In those instances, they could incorporate defensive end Dominique Easley, if he’s healthy. And that could allow the Rams to move Suh and Donald around.
“When you get into some of your four-down fronts,” McVay said, “youâll still see [Suh] line up as a [3-technique], and you might see him line up as a shade on top of that center.”
Donald and Suh have combined for 90.5 career sacks, the most by defensive tackle teammates since Dan Wilkinson and Vonnie Holliday combined for 97 on the 2006 Miami Dolphins, according to research from the Elias Sports Bureau. While lined up as a tackle pre-snap, Donald and Suh have combined for 42 sacks over the past four years, which would be the most by current teammates, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Second most? Donald and Brockers with a combined 38.
Donald, the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year, ranks second only to Oakland Raiders defensive end Khalil Mack with 252 total pressures since 2015, according to Pro Football Focus.
Suh averaged 58 pressures and 532 pass-rush snaps from 2014 to 2016, but he generated only 43 pressures in 495 pass-rushing snaps in 2017.
Suh should get more pass-rushing snaps this season, and with Donald next to him, he will be double-teamed far less frequently, which means his pressures will theoretically pick back up. The Rams first touched base with Donald to make sure he was OK with them pursuing Suh, and McVay said, “the mutual respect that exists between those two players was imperative” to making the connection happen. The two have “talked amongst each other as this thing was going on,” McVay added.
Suh has 44.5 career sacks as either a left defensive end or a left defensive tackle and only seven everywhere else, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Donald basically has split his career sacks as a left defensive tackle (13.5) and a right defensive tackle (12), while adding 6 as a nose tackle, 5.5 as a right defensive end and 2 as a left defensive end.
Donald provides the Rams with more versatility, but Suh will move around a lot now, too.
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znModeratorI don’t think they have any cap space.
I don’t know, man, I myself am getting a little impatient with this whole “it’s Friday, which star will they get today” thing.
Time for some real football.
He said, impatiently, knowing full well there was still a ways to go…
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znModeratorNote: I wouldn’t necessarily assume this guy is a tackle in the Rams eyes. Kromer has a long history of putting guys like this at guard.
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Tyrell Crosby out of Oregon is one tackle whoâs seemingly piqued their interest
TYRELL CROSBY
6’5″, 325 LBS.Crosby is a big-bodied tackle prospect with a strong anchor and a mean streak as a run blocker. He was poised for a great junior year before injuries caused him to miss all but three games. He missed the opener due to injury, started the next two games at left tackle but suffered a broken left foot. Crosby started 12 of 13 games played in 2015 at right tackle, one year after stepping into the starting lineup because of injuries in 2014. Crosby (a top-40 tackle recruit from Henderson, Nevada) started nine games that year, including each of the final six at left and right tackle, while playing in all of the Ducks’ 15 contests.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Wide body with very good combination of mass and length for the tackle spot. Drive blocker with exceptional strength. Has adequate flexibility to drop pads and land at an adequate entry point at first contact. Able to unlock hips enough to boom on smaller opponents at impact. Runs feet through contact and will often generate quality movement in running game. Possesses powerful upper body and can engulf and maul opponents when he gets into them. Not a dancing bear, but he has serviceable movement skills combined with power and arm length to recover against opponents who challenge his inside or outside edge. Hands are strong. Able to handle short pull duties. Has experience at both tackle positions.
WEAKNESSES Lacks initial quickness. Cut-off blocks are a challenge. Doesn’t always secure positioning of base blocks through footwork. Lower hit rate on second level blocks. Technique and finesse need work. Gets lazy with hand placement in pass pro and will default to swallowing opponents with wide hands. Rarely asked to make pure pass sets in Oregon offense. Needs to prove he has adequate kick-slide quickness. Mirror footwork is a little sluggish. Struggles to keep his blocks centered. Will narrow base as a drive blocker allowing opponents to slide out of side door. Body control and balance and are just average.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 2-3
SOURCES TELL US “I think he will be a pretty good pro if he gets with the right team. If you are strong you can play in the NFL. He can improve his feet and learn tricks and shortcuts to help in that area. Coaches can slide protections to him. But you can’t coach that size and power.” – Retired NFL offensive lineman
NFL COMPARISON Jermey Parnell
BOTTOM LINE Crosby won’t be a favorite of evaluators looking for a pretty tackle who wins with athleticism and technique, but he will appeal to teams who covet size, length and strength as he puts big checkmarks in those boxes. Crosby is a bulldozing right tackle prospect who can generate good movement in the run game, but he still needs to prove he has enough foot quickness and technique to sit on an island and handle quality pass rushers. He has NFL starting talent but his draft stock will be strongly influenced by how he performs at the Senior Bowl and Combine.
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