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    in reply to: UDFAs — tweets, articles, etc. #85787
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    Wow. Ourlads makes Perez sound like a real diamond in the rough. Maybe he ends up on some NFL roster a few years down the road. Too bad NFL Europe no longer exists.

    Why not keep him as the Rams #3. (Assuming he works out.) If you’re down to your #3 you usually don’t expect much anyway.

    In the article on him in this thread above, he is portrayed as a very quick study.

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    why didn’t Dr. Strange prevent Thanos’ apocalypse himself when he had control of the time stone? T

    I think that one is pretty straightforward. He said he saw more than 1.6 M futures and they defeat Thanos in only 1.

    So it seems that the only 1 they defeat him in is the one where he gets ahold of all 6 stones, AND Tony Stark survives.

    I thought he was talking about possible outcomes given what has transpired up to this point. I didn’t think he was talking about altering the past, but you are probably right. That would be a huge plot hole otherwise.

    Yeah see the way I took it was this. Strange looks at all the future outcomes before Thanos arrives. Presumably in some of them he uses the time stone as a weapon. Apparently none worked, and apparently the only future that works includes Thanos getting all 6 stones and Stark living. So that one possible future begins at that point, when T gets the time stone and Stark is saved. But all that also means something else. T’s one goal is to eradicate half of the universe’s population, and then he’s done. Strange must have seen that in the timeline he initiates by trading the stone for Stark, T accomplishes that. He does it, Strange must have seen that, and then T’s done. So what would victory over him mean under those conditions? It must mean reversing what T did and restoring everyone he wiped out. Otherwise making that particular sacrifice (half the universe gone) makes no sense. It only makes sense if that combination of details (Stark lives, T gets the stone, T does the wipe out) THEN leads to the good guys finding a way to reverse the wipe-out (probably by getting the gauntlet themselves, which in fact is what happens in the comics). This is why Nebula surviving also matters so much–she’s the only one who can get the other Avengers to where T is so they can get the gauntlet for themselves.

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    Alden Gonzalez@Alden_Gonzalez
    Among Rams draft picks, the one who will probably end up playing the most snaps in 2018 is Obo Okoronkwo. @McShay13 identified him as their best selection ($). ..

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    Los Angeles Rams

    Obo Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma (No. 160)

    from Best draft value pick for all 32 NFL teams

    Todd McShay

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/insider/story/_/id/23347512/best-nfl-draft-value-picks-all-32-teams-2018-todd-mcshay

    The Rams’ draft is filled with several lottery tickets, but remember that many of their picks this year were used to trade for impact veterans (Brandin Cooks, Marcus Peters, Aqib Talib). I had Okoronkwo as the 95th-best player in this draft, so to get him at 160 is definitely a good value. He’s not a great test, but a good football player and a relentless pass-rusher. For a team that still needs edge pass-rushing help, I liked this pick.

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    Toby Rowland@TRowOU
    Made big plays in big moments! Quick off the ball. Developed into best pass rusher in Big 12. He got consistently double-teamed. Fun personality. Heavily involved in helping children. Went to Haiti twice to help with disaster relief. Rams got a super player and better person.

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    Alvin Kamara@A_kamara6
    Congrats to my Brutha @JKShuttlesworth … the @RamsNFL got a good one!

    Johnny Hekker@JHekker
    Can’t wait to meet all the new Rams. There can’t be a team with a better veteran group to learn under. Both sides of the balls have all pro players with character to match.
    Welcome to the Mob young guns.

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    Post-Draft, most intriguing position battles for #LARams training camp: EDGE, ILB, RB, Reserve OL & Reserve DL.

    Practice squad spots could be at a premium.

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    PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
    New #LARams edge defender Justin Lawler produced the draft class’s 10th highest pass-rush productivity in 2017 at 13.2. He generated 22 QB Sacks, 22 QB hits, 94 QB hurries (!!!) and 138 total QB pressures on 884 pass-rushing snaps over the last three seasons

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    why didn’t Dr. Strange prevent Thanos’ apocalypse himself when he had control of the time stone? T

    I think that one is pretty straightforward. He said he saw more than 1.6 M futures and they defeat Thanos in only 1.

    So it seems that the only 1 they defeat him in is the one where he gets ahold of all 6 stones, AND Tony Stark survives.

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    The Rams never got enough out of Tavon Austin

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/38451/the-rams-never-got-enough-out-of-tavon-austin

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Les Snead had just wrapped up his seventh draft as general manager for the Los Angeles Rams, but he began by talking about a high-priced veteran who no longer played for him. The subject was Tavon Austin, the diminutive speedster who was sent to the Dallas Cowboys for what at that point represented the Rams’ seventh sixth-round pick.

    Snead, seated alongside head coach Sean McVay, opened his Saturday news conference by calling Austin “one of my favorite human beings on the planet,” a compliment he wouldn’t just throw around. He praised his competitiveness, his mental toughness, his unselfishness in the midst of a significantly limited role. And in the end, Snead said, “Tavon deserved a chance to go try to be Tavon.”

    The underlying belief is that Austin never really got that chance with the Rams, at least not to the extent the organization and its fans would have hoped.

    The Rams traded up eight spots to select Austin eighth overall out of West Virginia in 2013. He measured only 5-foot-8, but was nonetheless considered the best wide receiver in his draft class; an all-purpose threat who matched gaudy statistics with an eye-popping 4.34-second 40-yard dash at that year’s scouting combine.

    Since then, however, 90 players have amassed more scrimmage yards. Disregard last season, when he was left without a role in McVay’s offense, and Austin still ranked only 86th in scrimmage yards from 2013 to 2016.

    But Snead doesn’t consider Austin’s stint with the Rams an all-out failure. Asked why it didn’t seem to work out, Snead began by pointing out that “Tavon led our team in touchdowns the year before we signed him to the contract.”

    The year was 2015, the last one for the Rams in St. Louis. Austin finished it with 907 scrimmage yards, his highest in a single season by a wide margin. He actually tied Todd Gurley for the team lead with 10 touchdowns (five of them as a receiver, four as a runner and one as a punt returner). Weeks before the start of the following season, the Rams signed Austin to a four-year, $42 million extension that quickly became the subject of ridicule.

    “It was never necessarily to be, hey, a No. 1 receiver,” Snead said. “But he was a weapon for us on special teams and in the offense. He led our team in touchdowns, and he had a lot of special-teams touchdowns called back. He was just a unique weapon on offense.”

    The Rams never truly maximized that weapon, and whether the fault lies in the staff or in the player is impossible to truly know. In four years under Jeff Fisher, the Rams had Austin return punts and did their best to duplicate getting the ball to him in space elsewhere, using him largely on screens, jet sweeps and quick slants. From 2013 to 2016, Austin averaged a whopping 7.7 yards per carry, but he only ran the ball 125 times. As a receiver, he hauled in 60.1 percent of his targets, ranked 120th among 166 players during that four-year stretch.

    “I do think us going through a lot of QB changes, even coordinators, probably hindered his progress,” Snead said. “Because any time you’re a shorter receiver — if you were with the same QB for a while, you get used to passing the ball to that person.”

    Tavon Austin, who never maximized his potential with the Rams, received high praise from GM Les Snead for his competitiveness, mental toughness and unselfishness. Matt Kartozian-USA TODAY Sports
    Fisher answered a similar question about Austin shortly after the Rams drafted him. He talked about how his quarterback at the time, Sam Bradford, stood 6-foot-4 and therefore wouldn’t have much trouble finding him. But Bradford was just one of eight quarterbacks the Rams used during Austin’s first four seasons, to go along with three different offensive coordinators.

    In 2016, the Rams finished last in the NFL in every major offensive category and Austin was one of many whose numbers suffered through it.

    In 2017, Austin finished with 317 scrimmage yards in a role that no longer included punt returns and really only involved duties as a backfield decoy.

    McVay called Austin to break the news to him that he had been traded. Austin initially went silent, took a moment to take it in, then decided he would be “in a better place.” In a conference call with Cowboys reporters, Austin added that the trade would take “a lot of weight off my shoulders,” perhaps a reference to the massive extension that ultimately became a burden.

    “I gave my blood, sweat and tears over here — the St. Louis Rams, then coming to the L.A. Rams,” Austin said. “Unfortunate how it ended for me last year, me being hurt, me not playing — not playing at all, to be honest — it kind of hurt me as a player because I know the competitor I am. But I’m not the type to throw anybody under the bus and cry about it. I took it on the chin, kept my mouth closed, kept working through everything. I can honestly say I’m a better man today.”

    Austin was hardly able to get on the field for McVay, in any setting. While his teammates grew familiar with a new offense during the offseason program, Austin worked out on the side by himself, rehabbing a wrist still tender from surgery. He returned to full activities in training camp, then popped his hamstring in the first week and was sidelined for most of the summer.

    By the middle of August, the Rams had traded for Sammy Watkins, moving Austin way down on their receiver depth chart. Austin then muffed a handful of early-season punts — caused, perhaps, by a wrist that hadn’t fully healed — and Pharoh Cooper replaced him while on his way to the Pro Bowl.

    Austin spent most of his on-field time providing the threat of a jet sweep to open holes for Gurley. But that role steadily diminished, as well. The Rams restructured his contract, largely out of desperation after Watkins departed as a free agent. But then they traded for Brandin Cooks, and Austin’s presence once again became unnecessary.

    “I hit rock bottom,” Austin said, referencing the 2017 season. “It’s only the way up now.”

    By trading Austin, the Rams saved $1 million, just enough to sign their new draft picks — but Snead will appreciate much more than that.

    “The guy led our team in touchdowns and was a threat to go the distance, so, he did have a productive career with us,” Snead said. “It would’ve been interesting to see if he would’ve been healthy last year, how it turned out. But it didn’t, and this is where we are today.”

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    Captain Marvel is supposedly the most powerful of all the superheroes, so you would think this character would have had a role in combating the apocalypse. BTW, the Captain Marvel origin film is set to be released in 2019 so we’ll probably find out then.

    Yeah, it seems to me that what will happen in the origin film, which is set in the 90s, is that they will have to come up with some kind of plausible reason why she has been absent. Not just for Thanos but for Loki and New York, and for Ultron.

    It will probably be the purpose of that film to establish exactly that.

    And also establish why she is the last line of defense Fury has after the Avengers.

    I can imagine there are a lot of ways to do that.

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    tegray scales. another prospect i know nothing about. but i looked him up. tons of production. tackles. tackles for losses. lots of sacks. interceptions.

    He is getting a lot of buzz from the draftnik posters on the different boards. I just put something up about him at the end of this thread: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/tweets-4-28-for-udfas/

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    jrry32 sez:

    From what I have seen, UDFA ILB Tegray Scales has the talent to stick. Why wasn’t Scales drafted? Because he’s 6’0″ 230 pounds with short arms and a 4.7 40.

    What did Tegray Scales do as a starter the past two years in the Big 10?

    2016: 125 tackles, 24 TFLs, 7 sacks, 1 Int and 1 FF
    2017: 89 tackles, 12.5 TFLs, 6 sacks, 2 Ints, and 0 FFs

    Pretty damn good production in one of the best conferences in college football. Tegray Scales likely isn’t a future superstar in the making, but he can play.

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tegray-scales-1.html

    Look at Wade’s starting LBs his final year in Denver. They were Brandon Marshall and Todd Davis. Marshall was a 5th round pick of the Jaguars. The Jaguars cut Marshall multiple times during his rookie season to put him on the Practice Squad, and they finally cut him before the start of the regular season going into his second year. Todd Davis was an undrafted free agent. That means that Wade’s two ILBs were a guy who couldn’t make the Jaguars (back when they were crappy) and a former UDFA. Yet, both guys performed admirably.

    Wade gets quality play out of overlooked players because he knows how to identify exactly the skill-set that is maximized in his defense. Tegray Scales has that sort of skill-set, and he’s a guy who should thrive on special teams

    I doubt Scales starts in 2018 unless we have a lot of injuries, but he does have the talent to compete for a starting job down the line. It’ll be interesting to see how many ILBs they keep. We have at least 6 guys worth of a roster spot (Barron, Littleton, Kiser, Wilson, Hager, and Scales).

    in reply to: Grading the Los Angeles Rams 2018 NFL Draft #85745
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    ranking Rams picks based on (my own perceived) value

    The Rams went into this Draft needing to address ILB, OLB and the OL for both depth and future starters. They seemingly did that (and more, with 11 total picks) while not having a pick until #89 overall.

    Where were their best values? Worst? My own opinions:

    1. OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma: Using the aggregated draft list I created and posted he was the 12th best value pick in the draft- ranked 92nd overall but taken 160th. He is a great fit for what Phillips wants. I personally think Phillips will always use “LBs by committee” so while he might not ever be on the field 50+ snaps per game he absolutely could give them 400 off the edge as a rookie and more from there.

    2. ILB Micah Kiser, Virginia: Similar to Okoronkwo, Kiser was both strong value (I had him ranked 116th, taken 147th) and joins an ILB group where he can contribute immediately. May only be a two-down ILB but he’s a very smart, instinctive player that can play a very positive role.

    3. RB John Kelly, Tennessee: A tough runner with good balance who can be a capable backup to Gurley. Provides immediate competition for Malcolm Brown. Can catch. I put him here as at pick #176 I considered him a top 130-150 player.

    4. OT Joseph Noteboom, TCU: Logical if unsexy pick for their future. I had him as the 100th ranked player on my aggregated list. At least 5 sites rated him in the 90s or better (Gil Brandt 72nd). Have to admit I thought the Rams would go defense first. Good to see they maintained a long-term view in this Draft. He immediately should be an upgrade over Darrell Williams as the backup LT and they’ll develop him with an eye on starting in 2019. 16 months of focus in an NFL weight training program will help prepare him.

    5. DE/OLB Justin Lawler, SMU: As far as value I thought this was a great late round choice. Definitely better potential to stick than Young or Howard. Great tenacity. Similar to Longacre. I can see him being a special teams contributor as a rookie. Two-time All Conference player and did really well in the East-West Shrine Game.

    6. C Brian Allen, Michigan State: Allen ticks a lot of boxes for interior OL. 38 starts, Big Ten, wrestling background, NFL family (can help him acclimate faster), unquestioned toughness. His versatility is a big plus (16 starts at LG, 17 at C, 5 at RG). But the flip side to that is 17 or fewer starts at any one position. He’s not in my top 5 values because he simply barely appeared on any draft list in the top 200, so taking him 111th seems early. Is he a top interior backup for the Rams? Definitely. Will he grow into Sullivan’s successor at C? TBD.

    7. OG/T Jamil Demby, Maine: A tackles with 29 college starts at LT who seems destined to play guard in the NFL. Comes from a 2nd tier program but played well during Senior Bowl week and is strong. Two-year captain. Played for new Rams assistant Liam Coen which was certainly a factor in the selection. Not great value at 192, but not bad either.

    8. DT Sebastian Joseph, Rutgers: Probably a little higher than expected in my opinion but that’s probably nitpicking here. Can compete with Tanzel Smart at NT. Not a pass rusher. Could become a situational run stopper over time.

    9. OLB Trevon Young, Louisville: Decent potential if he’s healthy but bad hip injuries have a tendency to linger worse than ACLs these days.

    10. DE John Franklin-Myers, Stephen F. Austin: I didn’t like this pick (at this spot) at all. To me he was taken close to 100 picks too high. Developmental player who can sit on the back end of the roster for a year but they would like him to replace Westbrooks and Easley as a 3-4 DE in 2019.

    11. LB Travin Howard, TCU: SS/LB tweener. Probably no more than special teams potential. Practice squad candidate. Could have been an UFA as easily as he was a 7th rounder.

    Bonus: I think LB Tegray Scales is their best UFA signing by far. Could definitely have warranted a late round selection. Could push someone like Hager off the roster.

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    Best acting of any superhero film, the characters have more depth, and it’s easily the funniest film of the Avenger series so far.

    And the storyline includes some powerful emotional moments that work.

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    I love what the Rams did this weekend

    I liked your whole take.

    I may be higher on Allen than you are.

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    in reply to: Grading the Los Angeles Rams 2018 NFL Draft #85734
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    The Draft Wire’s Luke Easterling
    Overall grade: B

    2018 NFL draft: Instant grades for every team

    They had the longest wait to make their first pick (No. 89 overall), but they found enough gems in this draft to make up for it. Joseph Noteboom and Brian Allen were taken a little earlier than I expected, and John Franklin-Myers was a left-fielder, but things got golden with the next few picks. Getting a trio of Micah Kiser, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo and John Kelly between the fifth and sixth rounds was incredible, giving the Rams great value and depth at key positions of need. There were some off-the-wall picks mixed in here, but overall, the haul was impressive considering how late they got into the game this year.

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    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    So the Rams started with a fifth-round pick, No. 160 overall. They sent it to Denver for Aqib Talib. Then they got it back today, for two sixth-rounders, and drafted Okoronkwo. So basically they got Talib and Okoronkwo for two sixth-round picks.

    Holy shit.

    That ain’t even the half of it. The Rams traded around so much in this draft, that they only used one pick that was originally their own pick in its original spot.

    And that was the 5th rounder they got back from Denver.

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    In need of linebackers, Rams didn’t panic in early rounds of NFL draft

    link: https://www.ocregister.com/2018/04/29/analysis-in-need-of-linebackers-rams-didnt-panic-in-early-rounds-of-nfl-draft/

    The empty seats in the linebackers’ meeting room could have caused the Rams to panic.

    Alec Ogletree, gone. Robert Quinn, gone. Connor Barwin, gone. What remained? One starter, Mark Barron, and eight other linebackers, a collection of unproven young hopefuls and NFL career drifters.

    So the Rams looked at their list of draft picks, already dwindled by trades, and knew they needed linebackers. Then they promptly used their initial three picks on an offensive tackle, a center and a defensive end. After four rounds, the Rams hadn’t picked a linebacker. No panic.

    By the end of the draft, the Rams had acquired four linebackers, one of whom is being heralded as a potential “steal.” The position remains a concern, but the fact that the Rams didn’t overreach simply to put warm bodies in their linebackers’ room speaks to the progress they’ve made in the past 15 months.

    Among their 11 picks in this year’s draft, which ended Saturday, the Rams brought in edge rushers Ogbonnia Okoronkwo (fifth round, from Oklahoma) and Trevon Young (sixth round, from Louisville) and inside linebackers Micah Kiser (fifth round, from Virginia) and Travin Howard (seventh round, from TCU).

    It’s folly to grade a draft class before a single game has been played, but it’s fair to be impressed with what the Rams pulled off, and perhaps it’s an indication of growing cohesion within the organization.

    “I think going into year two,” Coach Sean McVay said after the draft, “you can be a little more strategic with some of the needs. Because collectively, as a coaching staff and with our personnel staff, we have a much better idea of how our players that have been here fit, and the way we want to utilize them.”

    By comparison, 2017 must have felt like a white-knuckle ride. The Rams hired McVay on Jan. 12, exactly 15 weeks before the start of the draft. During that time, the Rams brought in an almost entirely new staff of assistant coaches, overhauled their offensive and defensive schemes and fired four scouts.

    At that point, McVay and General Manager Les Snead still were learning about each other. They faced the dire task of improving a team that had gone 4-12 in 2016, amid national-media reports that the relationship between Snead and then-coach Jeff Fisher, and their respective staffs, had become “toxic.”

    Now, it seems, much has changed. McVay and Snead breezily toss praise to each other, and the Rams seem to have a firm idea of their identity and how they want to get things accomplished.

    That confidence manifested itself at the draft. The Rams built depth along an aging offensive line and brought in tackle Joseph Noteboom (third round, from TCU) and center Brian Allen (fourth round, Michigan State). Defensive end John Franklin (Stephen F. Austin) arrived late in the fourth round.

    Then, in a series of jiu-jitsu-style moves, the Rams made multiple trades and got their linebackers. The transaction with the potential to be remembered for a long time is the one that brought in Okoronkwo.

    The Rams, in March, sent a fifth-round pick to Denver to acquire veteran cornerback Aqib Talib. Then, on Saturday, the Rams got that pick (No. 160 overall) back from the Broncos, in exchange for two sixth-round picks, and used it on Okoronkwo, a selection heralded by some draft pundits this weekend.

    Okoronkwo is a speedy outside linebacker who could pair nicely with Samson Ebukam, a 2017 draft pick who is expected to inherit a starting job as an edge rusher this season.

    Without first- or second-round picks, Rams hope to build depth in middle rounds of draft
    The Rams also traded picks with Green Bay, moved down in the fifth round and drafted middle linebacker Micah Kiser, a tackle machine from Virginia who is well-regarded for on- and off-field intelligence.
    Kiser could contend for playing time with third-year linebacker Cory Littleton, who is expected to inherit Ogletree’s old job alongside Barron in the middle of the Rams’ defense. They also added potential depth with the additions of Louisville’s Young in the sixth round and TCU’s Howard in the seventh.

    The new picks are expected to join their veteran teammates in two weeks, as part of the Rams’ offseason program, and then the true evaluation process will begin. It seems, though, that the Rams did a solid job of filling holes, even though they lacked first- and second-round picks for the first time since 1984.

    Snead spoke at length this week of his admiration for lesser-known Rams staffers, including area scouts and even the folks who drove potential draft picks to the airport as part of their official visits.

    “All of that, it’s a great process,” Snead said. “Sean’s staff, they’re involved, and when you get involved in the personnel side, it’s not easy. There’s a lot of extra work on your plate and they do a heck of a job. This day couldn’t have gone as smooth as it did without their work.”

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    Five Takeaways: Rams 2018 NFL Draft

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Five-Takeaways-Rams-2018-NFL-Draft/6730a051-1ca4-4820-ae87-d23d564c7ebc

    After three long days — mostly two, in Los Angeles’ case — the Rams have selected eleven players for their 2018 draft class. The group includes three offensive linemen, four linebackers, three defensive linemen, and one running back.

    Here are five takeaways from the weekend.

    1) Rams built offensive depth up front

    Throughout the offseason, general manager Les Snead and head coach Sean McVay have consistently said they’d like to build depth on the offensive line. L.A. is well aware that the club was fortunate to get through all of 2017 with its starters available for each game. Now players like Joe Noteboom, Brian Allen, and Jamil Demby will all get a chance to learn behind the Rams’ current starting five. Plus, they’ll provide insurance in case of injury.

    2) There will likely be competition at linebacker

    The Rams already had Mark Barron, Cory Littleton, Bryce Hager, and newcomer Ramik Wilsonon the roster at inside linebacker. Now the club has two more players to compete for roles there with Micah Kiser and Travin Howard. Kiser in particular could be significant in the mix, as he recorded 408 total tackles, 33.5 tackles for loss, and 19.0 sacks in his four years at Virginia. McVay also referred to Kiser as a great communicator, which could be an indication of his potential to become a defensive signal-caller.

    3) Depth for the D-line and edge rusher, too

    The Rams already had 2017 AP Defensive Player of the Year Aaron Donald. Then they added another dynamic interior defensive lineman in Ndamukong Suh. With Michael Brockers, that’s a high-quality defensive line to start in a 3-4. But with Robert Quinn traded to Miami and Connor Barwin an unrestricted free agent, there are some potential roles available at edge rusher and within the rotation on the interior.

    Enter John Franklin, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Sebastian Joseph, Trevon Young, and Justin Lawler. It’s much too early to make any kind of roster predictions, but based on when they were drafted, Franklin and Okoronkwo appear to have a strong chance to contribute in the Rams defensive rotation early on. Franklin slots in as a five technique, and Okoronkwo as an edge rusher. But time will tell how much — and how well — they perform.

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    4) Only one offensive skill player

    After leading the league in scoring in 2017, the Rams drafted only one offensive skill player — running back John Kelly. In his three years at Tennessee, Kelly rushed for 1,573 yards and 15 touchdowns. He also caught 43 passes for 350 yards — including 37 in 2017 alone. According to McVay, Kelly should be able to come in and compete for a role on the offense, perhaps becoming a change-of-pace back to the workhorse, Todd Gurley.

    But when it comes to skill players and draft picks, it’s worth noting that the Rams did use their first-round pick to acquire wide receiver Brandin Cooks.

    5) There were a lot of trades

    Los Angeles has made a total of 11 trades since the 2018 league year began involving draft choices, and made six of those over the final two days of the NFL Draft. Through the draft-day trades, Los Angeles was able to go from eight to 11 selections.

    But one of those draft-day trades sent wide receiver Tavon Austin to the Cowboys in exchange for pick No. 192. The Rams eventually used that selection on offensive lineman Jamil Demby. Still, as Snead and McVay both said, it’s tough to let an established player go — especially one who has been with the team for so long.

    Nevertheless, the trade is likely best for both the player and team.

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    JYB sez:

    There’s a fun thread over at the Niner forum on Obo.

    Started in December when draft discussions began, when many of their fans expressed a lot of interest in him, and ends after the draft, when they lament the Rams grabbing him. It’s 32 pages in total, but we’ll worth checking out. Below are a few snippets.

    http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/190034-ogbonnia-okoronkwo-olb-oklahoma/search=Okoronkwo

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    darockzillahitman
    Dec 30, 2017 at 6:13 AM

    Best pass rusher in the draft. I don’t care that he’s not the “prototype.” He’s the prototype for what he does. He uses his lack of height to his advantage as far as leverage; when he decides he’s bending that edge, there’s nothing you can do.

    He’s inconsistent vs. the run – really strong when he’s got his hands into you, but struggles to anchor when he doesn’t.

    Honestly, even if he’s just a situational pass rusher, I’d take him after trading down. He can replace Elvis.

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    Garoppolis
    Dec 31, 2017 at 9:17 AM

    He didn’t play football until his sophomore year in high school, so it’s possible he will learn to be more than just a pass rusher. Most of the mocks I’ve seen have him going around the third round, but that could change.

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    Heroism
    Jan 1, 2018 at 10:50 PM

    This guy is an interesting player. I’m watching his game vs Ohio St. right now. Dude was a terror off the edge. He is pretty damn explosive and relentless. Love his hand usage–very active. I prefer shorter edge rushers for their leverage advantage, so the height doesn’t really bother me. It’s moreso the weight, but his pass-rushing style isn’t reliant on power.

    This is sick. Ogbonnia uses an outside jab step and head nod to stop the tackle’s feet and subtle swipes to cross the tackle’s face.

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    darockzillahitman
    Dec 31, 2017 at 5:47 PM

    Well yeah, he’s a pure pass rusher. But he’s an unbelievable one. If Gunther Cunningham was here, he’d be the second coming of Derrick Thomas.

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    49oz2superbowl
    Jan 18, 2018 at 2:08 PM

    This guy to me is the #1 LEO candidate in the draft. Better than Chubb, Landry and Key in that regard. He won’t have the same physical measuables as far as length but he’s explosive, fluid, and can bend an edge better and counter-move better than all three.

    If I’m Lynch and Co. I find a trade down partner and barring there’s no crazy blue chip player at our pick, trade down to the early 20’s (maybe BUF wanting one of the top 4 qb’s that falls to our pick and take this guy.

    He’s one of my top 3 draft crushes this draft. People hyping up guys like Marcus Davenport but sleeping on a player like this who dominated the top level of competition. Very much reminds me of Elvis Dumervil.

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    Dillesq
    Jan 23, 2018 at 8:18 AM

    To me he’s a perfect 3-4 OLB. Great motor and tenancity

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    Heroism
    Jan 23, 2018 at 8:21 AM

    No, 34″ is good arm length, but it’s GREAT arm length for a guy that’s six feet tall. He’s got longer arms than Buckner and Armstead despite being 7 inches shorter.

    Oh, baby, I was really starting to like him. Now it’s full-blown on

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    ChaunceyGardner
    Jan 23, 2018 at 9:45 AM

    He seems to be around the ball on every play.

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    lamontb
    Jan 23, 2018 at 10:16 AM#44

    Looks like a guy that we need to make a move up for on day 2 . Looks like he’s been shot out of cannon when he takes off

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    NYniner85
    Apr 28, 2018 at 4:40 AM#455

    If we come about with OBO today I will consider this draft a success.

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    49oz2superbowl
    Apr 28, 2018 at 7:40 AM

    It’s baffling to me that he’s still available. He did nothing but produce at a top program and outperformed Davenport at the Senior Bowl. I still will not get over the 74 pick we wasted on a Pettis trade up and taking a project safety to corner convert ahead of this guy when value and need so desperately point to edge.

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    GhostOfBaalke
    Apr 28, 2018 at 11:57 AM

    Ogbonnio to rams. He might never become a solid starter, time will tell. But regardless, there is some great value for him in the mid 5th round.

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    Antix
    Apr 28, 2018 at 12:02 PM#465

    Sonofab***h

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    Nastastical
    Apr 28, 2018 at 12:02 PM#466

    Every time we passed on him I just kept getting the feeling he would end up in our division.

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    Antix
    Apr 28, 2018 at 12:04 PM#467

    He was probably my number 1 draft crush now I gotta hope he sucks

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    49oz2superbowl
    Apr 28, 2018 at 12:06 PM#468

    If he ends up being a good player and we predictably have no pass rush his season someone in our front office better be f**king fired or have their power entirely stripped. Whoever chose Street over him is a f**king joke.
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    49erBigMac
    Apr 28, 2018 at 12:29 PM#470

    Massive kick in the nuts for him to go to the Rams, I hope I was wrong

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    zonkers
    Apr 28, 2018 at 3:52 PM#472

    I have doubts that he has enough juice to start as a traditional edge. However, I think he could thrive under Wade Phillips’s one gap ‘n attack style.

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    in reply to: The OLine #85708
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    As I mentioned in another post, I believe Noteboom is going to be our future ROT, with Demby possibly moving to LG or RG. I could be wrong but, I’m in the belief that we will be looking for our new LOT next year.

    I think Demby is already a guard. They listed him as a guard when they drafted him. Kromer has a long history of converting college tackles to guards.

    You could be right that Noteboom doesn’t work out as a left OT. Not sure if he has the run game monster side to him so not sure how good a right OT he would be either. But he has to develop and get stronger to play either spot.

    I really believe that Allen is their new center though. Meaning obviously after Sullivan.

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    CROMWELL21 sez:

    Rams traded or received 28 different draft picks.

    The Rams only drafted with their original pick in the fifth round and that pick was traded for Talib and traded back for two sixth round picks.

    At various times the Rams held nine different sixth round draft picks.

    The Rams already are missing their 2nd and 7th from next year, the same picks they were missing this year when the season ended. Although the Rams expect two thirds and a sixth based on calculations of lost free agents.

    in reply to: Demby: tweets n bits n articles n vids n stuff #85706
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    Note…this is Snead’s wife:

    khs@KaraHenderson
    To .@SeniorBowlPhil point… I asked Les (being a New Englander myself) how in world did u end up with a Maine guy?? “Senior Bowl… saw him and said… holy $&@t this guy is good”

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    i wouldn’t be too surprised to see him start right away.

    My feeling is, that was their guy all along.

    Considering that, amazing they knew they could get him in the 5th round.

    in reply to: Just saw Infinity War… #85699
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    I definitely want to see it, ZN. But I am a bit behind, as far as the MCU goes. Haven’t seen Black Panther yet, for instance, but we have a new, low-cost theater nearby and I hope to see it this week, if all goes well. It’s a digital theater, for $3. Have never seen a film in that format before, so who knows?

    I do remember being bothered by TV shows that were shot in digital, but that was years ago, and I think they were done in 1080i or p, and I’m guessing today it’s all 4K. Likely makes a huge difference.

    Film is waaaay superior to digital at that lower rez. Don’t know about comparisons with 4K yet.

    Anyway . . . I’ll take your advice about not reading review stuff first. I’m that way about most things — books, movies, TV. I don’t even like introductions that tell us how we’re supposed to interpret this or that work of fiction. My preference is for Afterwards, or reading the intros later.

    Exceptions are when it’s a non-fiction work, especially history, when I already know how things turned out.

    ;>)

    Thanks, ZN.

    Here’s the minimal set of films you need to have seen for I.W. to make sense.

    Avengers 1.
    Guardians of the Galaxy. 1, not necessarily 2. If you don’t see 2, just find out via online Wikis who Mantis is.
    Captain America: Civil War.
    Thor: Ragnarok.
    Spiderman: Homecoming.
    Dr. Strange.
    Black Panther.

    With a couple of those, if you just read the wikipedia plot summaries, it will be enough.

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