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wvParticipantWells is a big disappointment. He’s got to get better, or someone has to replace him and do better.
Donald looks exactly like the guy the Rams expected him to be.
I think we all thought the Rams OLine would
be strong in the middle with
Greg R, Wells, Saffold.One game doesnt tell the story,
but they certainly didnt look strong
in game one.w
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wvParticipantGood points on the unauthorized law enforcement angle.
But, it doesn’t explain away whispers from NFL officials to reporters that they did indeed see the video and then made it seem like the video would show people that Janae also deserved blame and why it was only a 2-game suspension.
Something more happened behind the scenes, methinks.
No matter what happens, there is a lynch mob mentality toward the NFL office. They better come out and actually address reporters’ questions. A quote here and there doesn’t suffice at this point.
The ‘unauthorized sending’ issue aside,
I just dont think Goodell had the
experience to deal with domestic-violence issues
and apparently he didnt have the inclination to learn
about the issues.NOW, of course (due to the backlash) he has the
inclination to learn about the issue. Which,
in the end, is a good thing.Goodell knows about money and PR — and this was/is a
PR nightmare. So he will educate himself
on these issues.I hope the colleges are paying attention
to all this.w
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September 11, 2014 at 7:43 am in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6919
wvParticipantAs for Ray Rice…IF he actually gets to the point of contrition, I’ll be open to hearing it. If you listen to that press conference where he tells Janay Palmer Rice to apologize for “her role in the incident” by saying, “don’t you have something to say?” as if, “look, you. This is part YOUR fault.”
That to me SCREAMS that Ray Rice is still a full on abuser and is having ZERO part of any rehabilitation.
Now that he’s suspended, I’m QUITE sure he blames her…whether it’s because she couldn’t take a punch or “fell wrong” so she “got herself knocked out on the railing” or… well, you name it.
Let’s be clear. I’m all for second chances…for the contrite.
So, until and unless Ray Rice truly comes to grips with what he did, takes responsibility for it IN AT LEAST AS PUBLIC A WAY AS HE ASKED JANAY TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER BEATING, then I hope he’s NOT let off the hook, that people do NOT let him move on and that he’s constantly reminded that he IS a batterer.
Why? Because…he’s not going to change until he’s going to change. And at this time, he’s shown exactly zero signs that he cares to change.
I mean, really. Putting his wife out front to apologize to the world for putting her face too quickly in front of his fist and not being able to retain consciousness when her head slammed into the rail?
Nope. Too often in this fast food nation we want everything quick, even if it isn’t done which lets people off the hook if they’ll only just stand still long enough to let everyone’s attention drift to something else (which only takes a few minutes usually these days). Well, Ray Rice can turn to stone and I’ll still see him as a batterer until HE changes. I don’t need his victims to apologize. I don’t need other shit to happen in the universe to distract me.
Where’s his pain? Where’s his angst? Where’s his difficult journey? Anyone see Ray Rice walking that road? I sure as hell don’t.
The day he’s contrite and actually gives a shit about change, then and only then, will *I* give a shit about Ray Rice getting a chance to move on.
Oh, and since domestic violence is epidemic in this country and desperately needs TONS more discussion… I’m perfectly content to let Ray Rice continue to be the poster boy for it as long as he…well, I was going to say faking his contrition, but he’s not even trying to do that. So, as long as he’s a proud batterer, he can be plenty out front afaic.
Why is ANYONE concerned about Ray Rice getting the chance to move on so quickly, anyway?
Yeah, i agree with all that.
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wvParticipantMaybe we need a separate
Surgery-Board this year.w
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wvParticipantWell Bradford was the Offensive leader
and Chris Long was the Defensive Leader.Who’s the Special Teams leader?
He would be next, i would think
if i am reading these entrails
correctly.w
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wvParticipant“…The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can’t confirm anyone watched the video. He said he was unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited because he wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice’s punishment…”
================================================A “law enforcement official” went into an evidence room and made
a copy of evidence in a criminal case (thats still essentially pending) and
simply decided to send a copy to the NFL ?Yup, thats ‘unauthorized’ behavior, alright. I would think Somebody may
lose their job over that.w
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wvParticipantI think Greg Robinson and Aaron Donald were
the best picks given the info Snisher had at the time.Bradford seemed fine. Hill seemed like a solid back-up.
I ‘do’ think maybe they shoulda drafted a developmental
guy earlier than the 6th round.A rookie would not save them this year, though. I mean
if they had drafted one early, he’d still be a rookie
and they’d still be screwed this year.…course if this were my team, M.Vick would have
been signed a coupla years ago. For better or worse.w
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wvParticipantI was just STOKED that she actually asked to go with me. Should be exciting.
I’m riding up with Les since he lives about an hour south of me. We went together two seasons ago when the Rams last played in TB. That’s when I posted those Legatron vids on Youtube.
Tell, Les,
Peace.The board wars were no fun, but
hopefully we all learned…um…somethin.I’m thinkin if they can keep Doug Williams in the pocket
he cant beat them through the air. Dewey and Leroy Selmon
could cause problems, though.w
vSeptember 10, 2014 at 1:34 pm in reply to: How about trading out top pick in 2015 for Eli Manning? #6825
wvParticipantOh well, it was just a thought. LOL
Grits
Surely there will be a Good QB available
in the 15-25 range in the first round.
Surely.And then an OLineman or two
in the 2nd and 3rd round.w
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September 10, 2014 at 1:33 pm in reply to: game reactions from around the net (ongoing thread) #6824
wvParticipantWell, Tavon did not have a good day, did he.
If you hate West Virginians so much
maybe you should go live
in North Korea.w
vSeptember 9, 2014 at 5:32 pm in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6779
wvParticipanti don’t know if he’ll ever play in the NFL either but you never know….. afterall some dumb ass organization traded HOF Jerome Bettis to Pittsburgh to get the rights to draft some dickhead from Nebraska who beat his girlfriend in college
Was that the same organization
that traded up for the Pope’s Hooker?Rice will play again. And i dont mind that, frankly.
As long as he grows and evolves and learns what he needs to learn.
What often happens though, is the person just
learns how to jump-through-all-the-hoops and say-the-right-things.This ‘could’ be a chance for Rice to grow
in all kinds of poignant ways.w
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wvParticipantI was surprised. I wasn’t able to see much of pre-season but I wasn’t expecting such a poor showing. The penalties continue to bother me. I don’t see any improvement and that is one area I hoped Fisher and staff would clean up. I think the defense will be fine but I dunno about Schottenheimer and the offense. I know he’s in a really tough spot but nothing seems to be working. We’ll see.
Well the Chris Long penalty should have been on Minny.
And the Quinn penalty seemed ticky-tacky.
And the Givens and Quick penalties were about
WR’s playing with aggression which is somethin
weve ‘wanted’ to see out of those two.So, I dunno. I guess Fisher teams are known
for penalties and Fisher teams often have
trouble early in the year, but i really thought
MOST of the team played fine except for having
an injured-second-string-QB starting
and an OLine that just got beat.w
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wvParticipantYou always were a bit conservative on your thinking—I like the Rams 73-3 score—but “maryjanewatson” IS a little overboard with the Bucs getting that FG.
Well, usually i am in accord with maryJane
but in this case i’m gonna just say no.w
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wvParticipantThe Universe ‘wants’ Jeff Fisher
to finish 8-8.
Thus, things are bound
to get better.w
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UbuntuBuc, on 08 Sept 2014 – 8:14 PM, said:
6-3 Rams. Everyone remembers the 1999 Bears but is upset to see the Buccaneers on the losing end of a god awful game.6-3 Rams is still my call.
==========================Hmmm. I suppose they could score six on the road,
with their third string QB,
but I dunno know.
I think I’m going with:Rams 5
Bux 3w
vSeptember 9, 2014 at 8:37 am in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6735
wvParticipantI don’t know what’s more disturbing—the punch itself, or the way he just casually drags her body around afterward–like it’s a bag of potatoes or something.
That is a very disturbed dude and the NFL is better off without him—actually society is better off without him.
Domestic violence is full of strange, human, currents.
Think about the fact that the lady
is going to marry him…and think about
why that would be…etc.Anyway, Goodell is a corporate-suit. He
was out of his league on this one.w
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wvParticipantI still believe we can do a complete 180 turn around….but I am also perplexed at the lack of readiness of this team.
The defense looked ready to me.
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wvParticipantThat’s a very solid take IMO. It’s basically what I saw. This was a tough close game punctuated the wrong way by Rams mistakes. The 2nd half? They sent in an inexperienced 3rd qb to take over with the team behind. That;s what happens when you do that.
Yeah, this is a dangerous team on Defense. With the QB situation
being the way it is, it could be a very long year,
and the D is gonna get worn down…and thats too bad,
cause they would be fun to watch if the O was even average.I thought Norv called a good game, btw. I got
no complaints about him.w
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September 8, 2014 at 8:34 pm in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6680
wvParticipantThe corp. takes care of its image. That is most important. It is ok to lie or be wrong, but don’t embarrass me.
The corporate-PR suits will also work the other side
of things — they will consult with Ray Rice and he will
be magically transformed and redeemed ala, Greg Williams, M.Vick, etc,
in a year or two.w
vSeptember 8, 2014 at 8:23 pm in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6676
wvParticipantWell, I’m not sure Los Angeles
is gonna want’em either.w
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wvParticipantI see it prettymuch the way zack sees it, RFL.
I was very impressed with the defense in the first half.
I got no worries at all about the defense (though, if Chris Long cant play,
I dunno how that will effect things)The offense? I think Hill was fine when he had time to throw.
I think the RBs were fine. I think Cook and Quick were good.My only 2 questions are 1) whether there are weak links on the OLine
or whether it just needs time to ‘gel.’
And 2) whether BS has lost faith in Tavon. BS doesnt seem
to want to send him downfield to catch passes. Maybe its cause
he drops them in practice, I dunno.And of course there were plenty of dum penalties,
but I dunno what to think of that. That aint
sposed to happen at home.Next year, they will draft OLinemen and
a QB, I would think.w
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wvParticipantI noticed during the rewind of the first half
Hill seemed a tad gimpy. Just a hint of a limp.
The quad injury seems the most likely explanation
for his being replaced.w
vSeptember 8, 2014 at 8:00 pm in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6670
wvParticipantWell, its good that Goodell is learning about domestic
violence, but Maybe he should be required to take a class
er somethin.The ubiquity of cameras is changing
a lot of things in this country, btw.w
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wvParticipantI thought the Minnesota game was the “easy” one among the first ten games. And they got crushed. I honestly believe that they have a real shot at an 0-10 start and I believe it has a real chance to get real ugly along the way. I guess if I see something positive, it’s that the Rams might find themselves in the Jameis Winston sweepstakes. Of course, if Winston thinks he might be sentenced to a career in St. Louis, he might just stay in college.
Well, i think they could win a lot of games
if the OLine hold up, and Roman Gabriel
comes out of retirement.Two big Ifs,
i know.w
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wvParticipantwell rams need to draft a qb next year. high.
outside of hill they have nothing now. that’s a scary thought.
i see the offensive line improving. the running backs and wide receivers are in good shape. but they need a qb. long-term.
At this point, I’d be willing to watch
Tim Tebow in horns. If nothing else
they might gain some rushing yards.w
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wvParticipantWell, itz a crazy-zany idea, but
it would be nice if the Rams
offense could score some points.
That would be one way of helping
the defense.w
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wvParticipantThings could be better.
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wvParticipantI didnt see the game. Just saw the score, now.
Holy shit.
Thats all i got.
Maybe I’ll watch it on NFL replay — maybe
I’ll put my head in the oven. One or the other.w
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