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July 22, 2014 at 8:48 pm in reply to: Good Samaritan returns Deacon's NFL Hall of Fame ring to his widow #2237wvParticipant
Mac I have been friends with Deacon and Elizabeth for years. I went over and interviewed Deacon for the Herd Chat. Because he could barely use his hands, I had to type out all of his answers. Deacon Jones was one of the most fascinating and engaging people I have ever known.
Do you see any similarities between Quinn
and Deacon?For me, i cant separate Deacon and Merlin. I think
the fact the played on the same line is just incredible.
They complimented each other perfectly.w
vwvParticipant5 and 11….
6 and 10, we are screwed again,
7 and 9 wont float Grits’ boat
8 and 8 we don’t appreciate
9 and 7, Rams fans are in Heaven,
10 and 6, the D hits like Bricks,
11 and 5, Man Alive!
12 and 4, and we want more,
13 and 3 with Ogletree,
14 and 2 and Johnson is Tru,
15 and 1 – The legion of boom is Done,
16 and 0 ; Old Hacker’s goin to the Show.=============
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vJuly 22, 2014 at 1:28 pm in reply to: Rams have signed LB Pat Schiller & other roster moves – Tweets #2182wvParticipantDoes that have anything to do with Jo Lon Dum-Bear?
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vwvParticipant…Givens had regressed, Amendola and Gibson were gone…
Quick was still getting mental blocks in games,
Austin was spinning,
Richardson couldn’t run,
even Long had a couple of bad games,
and the defense was bad at that point and kept putting them in holes.
Defenses figured out Cook immediately yet no one else could take advantage of the extra attention he drew.
Now when you can’t run and defenses know it,
your WRs are not stepping up yet or are regressing,
and your defense is putting you in a hole…
what do you do?What do you DO?
wvParticipantNah, i never liked Baltimore much. I didnt
even like them when they had Don Shula and were the old Colts.
I rooted for Namath and the Jets to beat them in 68.But i like ‘actual’ Ravens. I feed a couple of them
around here. They like bacon and eggs and bologna
and french fries. I’m not sure it’s good for them
but they like it.I’ll probly change the avatar soon, but
for now its better than a photo of Crouch.I think the Rams can win the division this year Grits.
I really do.
Or they could finish 2nd.
Or 3rd.
Or 4th.
All things are possible this year.w
vwvParticipantIf I were to sit down and make a list of coaches who would or would not draft Sam, I would have put Dungy on the “draft” side..
Oh yeah. Well if i were to make a list of posters
who would have predicted that Dungy would be on
a list of coaches who would draft Sam,
you would be on that list of posters
who would have predicted that Dungy would be
on the list of coaches
who would draft Sam.w
vwvParticipantBeen listening to mike and mike this morning and they keep talking about weather or not Sam is good enough opposed to what ever view dungy may have. my thing is this. There is a difference in being “undersized” and not being “good enough” you dont get co dpoy especially in the sec for no reason. Wasnt he projected a 3rd or 4th round pick before he came out? Im not on either side of this “gay” argument personally im not gay but i dont have a problem with somebody being gay. That’s thier choice. I guess what im getting at is if dungy said this because he is anti gay personally and wouldnt take sam on that belief instead of what he could potentially do. isnt that thinking as a coach potentially bad for a team? letting personal view’s get in the way of what may be best for the team? Shouldnt a coach be more open minded. Just because Sam is the first dosent mean he is gonna be the last… Id rather have the publicity of having a gay guy on a/our team then micheal vick and his dog fighting. ( i used vick as an example because they were talking on their about how dungy said he would of been his “mentor” and took him to qb a his team if he were still coaching.)
Well, if you asked me to ‘predict’ which coaches wouldnt be inclined
to pick Sam, I’d have speculated that Dungy would be on the list.
Just cause he has always seemed (to me) to be a mix of
“old school” and “old-timey-religion.”
In a weird way, I think he’d have an easier time
dealing with Vick than with Sam.Peepulz is complicated.
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wvParticipantSam is making the NFL some money. Or else some people
just like the number 96.w
vSam’s jersey sixth-best seller in NFL
By Nick Wagonerhttp://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/9755/sams-jersey-sixth-best-seller-in-nfl
EARTH CITY, Mo. — It’s pretty common to see a rookie who has never played a game show up on the list of the NFL’s best-selling jerseys before training camp even begins. Many college players simply carry the name-value and fan following that makes proving themselves in the NFL unimportant when it comes to purchasing a jersey.
You don’t, however, see rookie seventh-round draft picks on the list before they’ve ever taken a snap. But as we already knew, St. Louis Rams defensive end Michael Sam is clearly not your run-of-the-mill seventh-round draft choice. As the first openly gay player drafted to the NFL, Sam has already become one of the most well-known seventh-round picks of all time.
If you needed any further evidence, simply take a look at the list of the top 10 in jersey sales on NFL.com from April 1 to July 17. Sam’s No. 96 jersey checks in at No. 6 on the list, behind established NFL stars such as Denver’s Peyton Manning and Seattle’s Richard Sherman and ahead of the future Hall of Fame quarterback trio of Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers. Heady company, for sure.
Sam is also one of only two defensive players — Sherman the other — to make the top 10. Clearly, Sam’s historic announcement and pursuit of a roster spot in St. Louis has transcended his draft position and made his jersey a hot commodity among fans.
If nothing else, Sam’s jersey is already considered something of a collector’s item. It will likely continue to sell well, but it’s still a piece of memorabilia that could have a short shelf life. There aren’t many fans who buy jerseys of a player who is far from a lock to make his team’s roster.
That’s much different than the situation in Cleveland, where quarterback Johnny Manziel is No. 1 on the list in no small part because of his larger-than-life personality and the profile he brings into the league as a first-round pick. Manziel is a lock to make the roster and the only question surrounding his status in that regard is whether he’ll be the opening-day starter.
Sam doesn’t enjoy the same luxury as he pursues a spot on the team’s initial 53-man roster with the possibility that those No. 96 jerseys could be out of date only months after they were purchased.
wvParticipantIt would be ironic if the Seahawks adjusted to this new policy
and it was teams like the Rams, who played a lot of soft coverage
last year, who got penalized more.Interesting stuff, btw.
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vwvParticipantIt matters to me that BS made it to the AFC championship
twice in a row, with a bad QB. Hard for me to ignore that.w
vwvParticipantContrary to earlier reports, Dunbar was arrested for disorderly conduct and breach of peace — a misdemeanor. He was not charged with battery as had been indicated earlier.
Well that’s something, anyway.
There was probably a bounty
on the Greene dude.w
vwvParticipant“I wouldn’t have taken him,” Dungy told the Tampa Tribune. “Not because I don’t believe Michael Sam should have a chance to play, but I wouldn’t want to deal with all of it. It’s not going to be totally smooth … things will happen.”
I wonder if Dungy would have drafted the first black as the Rams did back in the ’40s. Or if he were in charge of the Dodgers back then if he would have signed Jackie Robinson.
Could that quote be “I wouldn’t have taken him,” Dungy told the Tampa Tribune. “Not because I don’t believe Jackie Robinson should have a chance to play, but I wouldn’t want to deal with all of it. It’s not going to be totally smooth … things will happen.”
Damn, that would be a great question for him. I hope someone asks it.
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vJuly 21, 2014 at 8:01 am in reply to: 2014 NFL Draft grades: Texans, Browns, Jaguars earn top marks #2075wvParticipantI think its crazy to give an “A” to a GM
for drafting Manziel. We all know he’s a wildcard.
Boom or bust. No-one knows which it will be
yet.w
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LaramPeople/athletes IMO are hardwired a certain way. There are people/players that like living on the edge, that are risk takers. They subscribe to the high risk, high reward theory.
Some athletes shy away from crunch time, others live for it. You have qb’s that instinctively look for the “kill shot”. They will look for that first, and must be trained to dial it back. It’s very difficult when it is in the reverse.
The “reverse” is the case with Bradford IMO. Go back and look at any college tape of Bradford, he immediately looks to a predetermined area short, and his receivers did the rest. That continues to be the case today, and the way he is wired IMHO. I don’t know if that can be changed.
=======================================wvParticipantOne would think ‘one’ of the assault/battery charges
will be dropped. I mean usually one guy starts it,
and one defends. (Unless they both agree do go outside
and fight)Usually the cops arrest both and then sort out who
started it, later.Doubt if it amounts to much. A 200 dollar fine, that sort of thing.
Dunno about the League penalty or the Fisher perspective though.Its certainly disappointing that Dunbar once again
is in the news. I hope this is his last year in horns.w
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wvParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
He’s soft,
and I don’t think he
has good hands,
and I am disappointed
in that personnel decision.I’d say the Finnegan and Cook signings
were major disappointments.w
vAgreed. Unfortunately, he’s still the Ram’s leading receiver. Doesn’t say much for the receiving corps.
I still haven’t forgotten the play where he allowed
the ball to be punched out of his hands at the goal-line.There aint no forgett’in.
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vwvParticipantAn NBA player and an NFL player in a fight?
Hmmmm.
I’m taking Green in the 9th round.
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LaramSam has taken hits that he could not avoid.
What they’re talking about is soft mentally.
When you get pressure on him if its a choice between hanging in the pocket waiting for somebody to clear or letting it go…he will let it go.
Sam has thrown 6 pick six’s in only 2 FULL SEASONS. That’s a lot, and is what Robinson meant by “he will throw us some”.
I have been told that teams gameplan Sam to get a rush in his face, and squeeze the underneath routes.
That is why we have seen so many underneath routes jumped, and taken to the house.
They’re sitting on those because that is his tendency.
They know in the face of a rush, he’s not going to hang in and let the longer routes develop.
At the NFC championship game I posted a pic of me, my seats and 9ers scouts sitting with me.
That is the book on him.
===================================wvParticipantHe’s soft,
and I don’t think he
has good hands,
and I am disappointed
in that personnel decision.I’d say the Finnegan and Cook signings
were major disappointments.w
vwvParticipantSmooth runner. Very smooth.
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Laramthere is an element of that, and is quite prevalent.
There have been many times when Bradford instead of staying upright and keeping his eyes downfield, will just fold in the pocket.
Another thing he will do is quickly check it down with perceived pressure.
That extra second or two in the pocket was a prominent attribute that made Kurt Warner great.
People talk about his o-line but Kurt took a number of hits for the team…standing in the pocket.
Sam does not handle pressure well at all. Not at all.
=================================wvParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
So we have a former player saying Bradford is “soft”
and a former NFL QB saying Bradford lacks ‘courage’.w
vHere’s my response. Would anyone think either thing if they had not heard those words from 2 guys?
In this vid, watch Bradford on the throw to Cook starting at 5:55 in. That’s against Houston, which ended the season as a top 7 defense and before the Rams game was ranked 2nd.
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I dunno. I wish the celebrity-interviewers would ask FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. Ya know. Like “tell us more” and “what exactly do you mean?” and “why do you say that?” and “Did you think those things about Eli before his big year?” and “What about the OLine and WR situatons?” Etc, etc, etc.
I have talked about my questions about Bradford’s “Pocket presence” for a long time,
so I’m not surprised by what his critics say. I dont think its a ‘courage’ issue.
Not sure what ‘softness’ means, exactly. I tend to think critics minimize the
OLine and WR issues he’s had. And the change in coaches and systems.I also think analysts like to see Rothlisberger-type plays in the clutch. They
like to see a QB escape the rush with his own moves. And then make big plays with
his arm. That takes Arm skills, leg skills, and Escapability Skills, or “pocket-awareness” skills.
I’m just not sure what to think of Bradford’s “pocket awareness” skills. I’m just not sure.
At times he’s looked good and at time’s I’ve gone “hmmmm.”In general though, i think he can be a low to mid 90’s QB. Which is good enough to “win” with.
Dunno if its good enough to win it “all” with. No-one knows, of course.w
vwvParticipantSo we have a former player saying Bradford is “soft”
and a former NFL QB saying Bradford lacks ‘courage’.w
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So, why did it take as long as it did for him to get his opportunity? Running backs coach Ben Sirmans told the Post-Dispatch, “Sometimes you wish you would’ve figured out what you had a little earlier. Based off Zac’s success at Vanderbilt in the top conference in college football, we knew he had talent. But he was a little banged up in camp, and we had Daryl and Isaiah getting the bulk of the reps. They were the guys we’d seen, guys who had actually played in the NFL.
“It can be really difficult to get a true indication of what you have in a player until you see him in live situations.”
====================Makes sense. Lotta things happened. Richardson hurt the toe in game one. SF and Dallas defenses
played really well. Neither Pead or Bennie C really stepped up. I think Bennie was hurt too, maybe.
And then Stacy gets to start against the Worst (by far) team in the NFL at that time.I think Stacey is a topnotch back when he’s healthy. Very impressed with him.
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vJuly 17, 2014 at 8:47 am in reply to: CBS Sports chairman says use of the name 'Redskins' will be up to announcers #1866wvParticipantIts fascinating to watch this social-change
unfold.At some point we will reach a tipping point.
Not quite there yet, though.Even the mega-corporation isn’t quite
sure what to do. They dont wanna get
boycotted by either side, so they are
gonna let the individual announcers
deal with the fallout.w
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wvParticipantYeah I am ahead of you. Look back at the post just before yours. I already said later on in the thread that though at first I thought he meant Bradford, the 2nd time around when I did the transcript, I realized he probably meant Austin.
I wonder if he means ‘mentally’ soft, like he can be intimidated — or does he mean, Bradford’s body
is easily taken-out.Clemens is a tough QB and ‘he’ looked totally discombobulated against
the Seahawks in that game in Seattle. The Legion of Boom made a lot of QBs look soft.w
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wvParticipantOn the subject of Bradford, Robinson went another direction, calling the fifth-year quarterback returning from an ACL tear “kind of soft.”
He didn’t stop there either. Robinson said the Rams had plenty of weapons on offense, pointing out specifically last year’s first-round pick Tavon Austin, but they needed to “toughen up” their quarterback. Robinson insinuated that Bradford had developed that “soft” reputation around the NFL.
That’s misreported. Listen to the vid in the original post. He doesn’t quite say that and he says more than that (that’s positive). He ends by saying when the game slows down for him a bit, his career will take off.
The vid is a bit different from how the article represents it.
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I think he was talking about Tavon. When the game slows down for Tavon his career will take off.
He wasn’t talking about Bradford at that point.Ryan Van Bibber said something about this being ‘trash talk’ btw. I dont see Robinson’s view
as ‘trash talk’ at all. He really does simply think Bradford is a bit soft.w
vwvParticipantWell, that was interesting. He thinks Bradford is a little “soft.”
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vwvParticipant..Shafir says that the poor are often judged for being myopic — for not saving money for the future, or not making better decisions. But what looks like short-sightedness from the outside is actually bandwidth poverty…see link
wvParticipantNo ram fan will ever forget that game.
That was the “they are officially for real” game.
99 had so many memorable moments.
Faulk for a 2nd Round Pick
The Trent Green Injury.
The Drive against Atlanta.
The 49er game.
The first Titan game.
The Holt-Hakim relay.
The Hit against Jeff George
The Catch by Proehl.
The Warner-to-Bruce plays.
The Tackle.We wont see that kind of team again.
Maybe Fisher can build the Greatest Defense on Turf.
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