“…According to court documents, in 1997 Roorda was reprimanded for attempting “…to try to ‘cover’ for another police officer by filing a report that contained false statements as to what happened during a suspect’s apprehension and arrest. As a result of this false report, all charges against the defendant involved were dropped.” The court notes that Roorda was informed, “If it is ever determined again that you have lied in a police report, you will receive a more severe punishment, up to and including termination.”
Roorda was later terminated for lying about interactions with other police officers after accusing them of threatening and abusing him. Roorda’s charges were disproved by audio tapes of the conversations provided to investigators by Roorda himself.
Following a stint as a police chief of Kimmswick, Roorda was elected to the Missouri Ho…”

How did this guy ever become the
St. Louis Police Officers Association Business Manager?
And how did he ever get elected to public office?….

Nevermind. Its chinatown.

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InvaderRam wrote:

st louis police really should work on repairing their relationship with the community of ferguson. forget about who was right or wrong cuz there is most definitely a distrust of the police in the entire city of st louis that goes far beyond this incident.

or maybe they just don’t give a shit which is unfortunate.

Exactly. The police PR-machine is awful.
They should stop being so completely defensive
about criticism, and just reach out to the community
and DO positive work, and let their actions speak
loudly instead of their defensiveness.
That police PR statement was appalling.

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As i was watching replay, i noticed what a big difference
it makes in a game if the opposing team does not have
a Larry Fitzgerald or Dez Bryant type threat on the outside.

It just looked like the Raiders WRs were easy to smother.

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Aeneas Williams audio – Ferguson talk, and football talk

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snowman wrote:

Here’s my two cents.

Unless you own your own business or are retired, you work for someone, for an employer. That employer has rules of conduct when the employee is representing the organization. These players could have expressed their feelings on the subject privately, as Steadman Bailey, as Tavon Austin, etc… but they chose to do it publicly, while at work, as Saint Louis Rams. They should have run this past their boss, Coach Fisher, before doing it because this reflects on their employer and on the league. IMO, they were selfish and perhaps grandstanding by doing it during game introductions. If I were Fisher, I would chew their asses for not consulting him before doing it and privately apologize to the Saint Louis Police Association. This probably involves Stan Kroenke too as the owner of the business.

My own view is different. I dont think being an ’employee’
means you have to agree with your employer’s politix
or act like you do. I think the players have a right
to do what they did. And I’d say that even if they
had worn police badges in support of the police.

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Dak wrote:

FYI, I know police officers, and their Facebook walls are full of “no more support” pledges concerning the Rams.

I want to say, it’s just five players who have a belief. But, it’s really personal to police.

Its interesting — do some folks really think Ram players
have sympathies with the protesters and other teams players dont ? Do they think there
arent just as many Raider players who feel the same way, etc?

…at any rate i’ve supported the rams for a gazillion years even
though 99 percent of the players, coaches and front office folks
have completely different politix than me.
blah blah blah

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Bernie on the political gesture:
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http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-rams-fans-should-savor-this-one/article_6550205f-2abc-5f9b-98bb-28c38ccd6f2e.html

…The Rams are also trying to figure out what to do in response to the roiling events in Ferguson. The Rams organization hosted Ferguson business owners for Sunday’s game. During pregame introductions the Rams’ five wide receivers emerged from the tunnel with the “Hands Up” gesture to convey solidarity with those protesting the police shooting death of Ferguson teenager Michael Brown on Aug. 9.

The Rams’ symbolic show of support will probably create more controversy in a racially polarized community. But players have a right to express their views — just as fans have the right to agree or disapprove of the Rams’ opinions.

But please don’t tell me that players should keep their mouths shut on a volatile issue that’s confronting St. Louis in a profound way. And it’s about time that people speak up so we can have open dialogue on a matter of critical importance. This isn’t North Korea.

“I don’t know what winning a football game does for that,” Laurinaitis said, referring to the Ferguson unrest. “Only God knows the truth. It’s important for the whole city to move forward and really love one another. I know it sounds cliché. But I’m a firm believer that love cures all things.”

The Rams may have gained some fans with their trouncing of the Raiders. They may have lost some fans with their “Hands Up” gesture. But on both counts, the team stood up Sunday.

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Fisher gives game ball to William Hayes and Eugene Sims afterwards. Both had family members pass away this week. Hayes in tears after game – Jim Thomas

I missed it. Will savor it on replay, obviously.

Um…so….what was the Turning Point?

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znhater wrote:

wv wrote:

Rams4life wrote:
They shouldn’t have to change the name.

Well no-one that i know of, has
ever argued they ‘have to’ do anything.
Its not about ‘have to’ — its about
what ‘should’ they do.
I think they ‘should’ — you think
they shouldnt, i guess.

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Well eventually they will make them change it. The NFL, the government, someone will. It’s already heading that way.
But i don’t think they should have to. And why should they? The last thing i think of when i hear the redskins name is a racial slur. Everyone knows the skins are a football team. I see no problem with it. And I’m about half Indian myself.

Sure, i get that there are plenty of people who share
your view. And there’s plenty of people who think
the name is offensive/racist. So, its contested
ideological-ground.

There was a time white folks wore black-face makeup
and did minstrel shows etc. At the time
a lot of folks just saw it as good clean fun,
with no harm intended — but then ideas changed.
You dont see those shows much if at all anymore.
Things change. Looks to me like the R-word
is going to change. Just a matter of when,
not if. I think thats a good thing. You disagree,
apparently.

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It was simply one of the worst, single, decisions
by a Ram quarterback in history.

Sigh.

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Not sure what to expect from C.Long
after such a long layoff and such
an unusual injury.

Sure would be cool if he could play
at his usual level. We’d finally
get to see the real front-four at a time
when when the D is starting to gel. Or somethin.

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Britt reminds me, in one way, of a guy I used to follow
decades ago– Roberto Clemente.

Clemente would often look like he could barely
walk when he staggered to the plate. He’d twist
his neck and body and he’d act like he was about to
keel over — and then he’d hit a triple.

Britt always looks to me like he’s not going to get
up after every hit.

Harkey LAUGHS at thigh injuries, btw.

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Defensive back Lamarcus Joyner (groin) and defensive tackle Alex Carrington (thigh) are questionable. Probable after Friday workouts are linebacker James Laurinaitis (ankle), wide receiver Kenny Britt (back), cornerback E.J. Gaines (knee), tight end Cory Harkey (thigh), tight end Jared Cook (back), linebacker Will Herring (foot) and linebacker Alec Ogletree, who left Thursday’s practice early due to illness.
Also probable are center Scott Wells, defensive end Robert Quinn and guard Davin Joseph, who all received vets’ days off this week. Defensive end Eugene Sims has missed practice all week due to a death in the family but is expected to play on Sunday.

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(On coaching TE Cory Harkey)
“One of my favorites of all-time. You probably have a handful of guys that you look back over 17 years, I think Cory Harkey’s probably in top two or three for sure. You just love his passion. You love his energy. You love the fact that it’s not about getting him the ball. He doesn’t want the ball. He just wants to go hit people, but just what a wonderful young man. Again, I told his father a couple weeks ago if my son grows up to be like Cory Harkey then I’ll be extremely pleased.”
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I’ve said it before — Harkey
is my favorite player.
The guy reminds me of an old-school
70’s type defensive player.
He reminds me of Deacon, and Ditka and Jack Lambert
and Butkis.

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