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I think yall
are being debby-downers.
I mean, what about Frank Gore?
He’s got, like, 40 inch hands.Seriously, if they can sign
a Stud OLineman, and draft a Stud Olineman
then it might not matter who is QB.
They can be the 2001 Ravens
or the 2002 Bucs.
I mean, most of Hill’s
screwups were when he was
under pressure. So, just
eliminate the pressure.w
vThem first two links go to other places.
The JT audio is here.
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jim-thomas-on-920-12/
special teams article is here:
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vAnd a tebow spread vs pro
article just for Mack
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20090424/ARTICLES/904239905?Title=Will-spread-hurt-Tebow-“…Not necessarily so, says Rich Rodriguez, whose spread offense nearly had West Virginia playing for a national title in 2007 — the year before he left for Michigan.
“People are looking at it the wrong way,” Rodriguez said. “Instead of looking at the system, they should look at the individuals they’re saying didn’t make it.”
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vyeah. at first glance there doesn’t seem to be a russell wilson type guy in this draft.
i mean he didn’t just play in a pro-style offense. he dominated in a pro-style offense.
he averaged 10.3 yards per attempt and threw 33 touchdowns on just 309 attempts and had a 72.8% completion rate.
domination.
Well how bout if they just draft
Wisconsin QBs until they
hit on one that can play.Oh, and why dont you
do a search of
“pro-style, college quarterbacks” with “eleven inch hands” 🙂PS — who runs pro-style offenses?
Fwiw — others have asked and answered that:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35429w
vPS — on R.Wilson and the ‘pro style offense’ — good little article. Also
talks about Glennon.
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vhttp://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/110198/wilson-and-glennons-life-changing-moment
by Terry Blount
Oct 31, 2013RENTON, Wash. — Russell Wilson never will forget the day he was told he no longer was wanted at NC State.
“It was April 27th [2011],” Wilson said.
Tom O’Brien, NC State’s head coach at the time, had a meeting that day with Wilson and gave him the surprising news.
Wilson had been the Wolfpack’s starting quarterback for three seasons. But Wilson also was playing minor-league baseball, a situation with which O’Brien had issues.
“But I didn’t think he would tell me not to come back,” Wilson said. “North Carolina State was an awesome experience for me. I graduated in three years and went to grad school. I wanted to finish my senior year [of football] there.
Russell Wilson was forced to leave NC State because of his commitment to baseball.
“I tried to do everything right. I love NC State. It was just one of those things. Coach O’Brien wanted to move on. So I had to move on, too.”Now, 2 1/2 years later, Wilson will play Sunday against the man who replaced as NC State, rookie Tampa Bay quarterback Mike Glennon.
“It was definitely a unique situation for a player of his caliber,” Glennon said of Wilson’s departure. “He was a great teammate, but it worked out for both of us. He went on to have a great year at Wisconsin and led them to the Rose Bowl.
“For me, it gave me an opportunity to start for two years at NC State and put me in a situation to get drafted. We’ve been nothing but supportive of one another through all that. We stay in touch with one another. I was happy for him and all his accomplishments and I think he feels the same way about me.”
Wilson has nothing but good things to say about Glennon.
“We were roommates, both doing our best to learn all we could,” Wilson said. “I have so much respect for Mike. He is very consistent in his approach. He knows how to study and how to learn. He has a great arm and doesn’t make many mistakes. He’s very poised.
“And he’s a lot taller than me [6-6 to 5-11]. He’s like a giraffe compared to me. But Mike has worked extremely hard to get where he is now. It’ll be fun to play against him.”
The situation at NC State was awkward for both men at the time. O’Brien felt Wilson’s baseball commitment, causing Wilson to miss spring practice, would hinder the football team.
“Russell and I had very open conversations about his responsibilities, respective to baseball and football,” O’Brien said at the time. “While I am certainly respectful of Russell’s dedication to baseball these last several years, within those discussions, I also communicated to him the importance of his time commitment to NC State football.”
O’Brien is no longer at NC State. He was fired after the 2012 season. He now is the associate head coach and tight ends coach at Virginia.
“I don’t carry a grudge,” Wilson said. “I ended up in the right place at the right time.”
But it was a life-changing moment for Wilson. A lot was going on in his life at the time, including the death of his father, the man who had guided all his decisions. Now Wilson had to make the biggest decision of his life without his father’s help.
“I still wanted to explore my dream of playing football,” Wilson said. “I prayed a lot and talked to my brother and my mom. I just went with my instincts.”
Mike Glennon replaced Wilson at NC State, but the former roommates turned NFL starters have remained supportive of each other.
Wilson said he had offers from schools across the country, but his instincts almost led him to Auburn“I took a visit to Auburn,” Wilson said. “I liked it, but I went up to Wisconsin and fell in love with it. I knew that was the right situation for me. Auburn had just had Cam Newton [the 2010 Heisman Trophy winner], a 6-5 quarterback. They spread it out and did a lot of trick stuff.
“I came from a West Coast, pro-style offense. I wanted to continue to learn what I could. I knew as a 5-11 quarterback, I was going to have to continue to prove myself in a pro-style offense [which Wisconsin used]. I had to put myself in the right position.”
Wilson had a remarkable senior season for the Badgers, throwing 33 touchdown passes and running for six others. He led Wisconsin to a Rose Bowl appearance against Oregon, which the Badgers lost 45-38. But Wilson had a superb performance, completing 19 of 25 passes for 296 yards and two touchdown throws, along with running for another TD.
“I’m so blessed to have gone to Wisconsin,” Wilson said. “It’s a great school and great coaching staff with incredible fans. I had a lot of great teammates that wanted to be successful. I played behind a huge offensive line. I think that proved a lot too, as a 5-11 quarterback showing I could play under center with those guys in front of me.”
And Glennon became a star after playing behind Wilson for two seasons. Glennon threw for 7,085 yards and 62 TDs in his final two years for the Wolfpack.
Like Wilson, he was a third-round draft choice. And like Wilson, he became an NFL starter as a rookie.
“We spent a lot of time together in college,” Glennon said of Wilson. “I don’t know if I could pinpoint one story about him, but he’s such a great guy. He does everything the right way.”
Who knows what would have happened for Wilson and Glennon if O’Brien had allowed Wilson to return for his senior year at NC State.
“In the end, maybe it’s what allowed me to play in the NFL,” Wilson said. “I was a free agent in a way. I was able to go to another school and continue my education [in graduate school] which was really important to me.”
Wilson looks back on it now believing everything happens for a reason.
“God had a different plan for me,” Wilson said. “It all worked out for me and for Mike.”
Wilson moved on and Glennon got his chance. Sunday they will be on opposite sidelines as NFL starting quarterbacks, at least in part, because of a day 2 1/2 years ago that changed both their lives.
while i’m all in favor of drafting a quarterback this year, petty seems like the very definition of a reach pick at #10. everything i read has him as a third round pick.
i’d rather trade down or pick a quarterback later in the draft. i’m personally in favor of drafting brett hundley. if he comes out. in the second round.
Well Hundley/Petty seem like the same guy
to me.I cant see the Rams taking any QB
at the ten spot, thats for sure.These guys all seem like second-tier,
project guys. Frankly even Mariota
and the Florida-Criminal-QB seem
that way to me. Projects.w
vWell, maybe. I dunno.
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v“Bryce Petty’s name has been thrown around a lot in the past two seasons and for good reason…
Where Petty falters is when it comes to his decision making and the fact that he’s limited to the option offense. He has never taken a snap under center and is used to only the option offense. He’ll need to transition to a pro-style offense that takes snaps under center. What he also must work on is his decision making. He tends to force to many passes into coverage and will even force passes down the field. His ball placement on a lot of passes is off the mark and he does not throw any receiver open.
He possesses a compact frame and can withstand a lot of hits. This is a big positive in the NFL. Because of his faults and weaknesses, Petty needs at least one year of development in the NFL as a backup or third stringer….”
yeah, zn…and you!
…and all the other great guys here!I hope to frequent RH more often leading up to the draft.
My brother Alyo still lingers at the HERD and so I hover there….sometimes too much.
I’m a little more hopeful/positive about the team’s direction than most posters there
and have been labelled/dismissed as an idealist/glass half-full/too positive kinda fan.
Probably true….but I just know from being in a huddle that the QB has to be the most absurdly optimistic
player for 60 minutes…in order to get others to play hard and believe they can win.Anyway, glad to read ya’ll again and I’m thankful RH is still here.
I miss the rational vibe.
Yeah good to see you ; I always
read you and yer brother’s stuff
on the herd.
This is a small board,
but we like it ::How ya feeling these days?
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vwv wrote:
i dont think Wells was ever
a particularly effective player for
any length of time.Well depends on what you mean by “length of time.”
He plays well when he comes back for the 2nd half of 2012.
He plays well enough for the 1st half of 2013. Or, he’s not the major problem in the 1st 4 games, when the line struggled some. But then I always thought that those 1st 4 games was due to the offense as a whole–they were playing a spread with young receivers PLUS their feature back could not run and everyone knew it (Richardson).
Long get injured all up. But he did not start out poorly. He actually grades out well for most of 2013. He was much MORE effective once they went to a play-action offense and away from that gawd-forsaken Richardson + baby receivers in a spread offense, but still.
If you mean Wells got hurt a lot, yeah he did.
But then. Their are only 2 years in the last 12 where the Rams OL is NOT hurt a lot–2003 and 2010. So is that Wells or the Rams OL curse?
Demoff btw says that OL injuries is the Rams achilles heel.
Well, i think we all agree with Demoff on that one.
Wells and Long were both ‘warriors’. Great
work ethics, great passion for the game,
smart players — but their bodies
just couldn’t hold up.I am not sure I am crazy about boudreau/fisher’s
leaning toward old-grizzled-vet-injured-linemen.
Linemen on the downside of their careers.
I guess that has worked in a lot of places,
but it dont work in St.Louis, apparently.I would like some fresh, young, stud-talent
on the Oline, Mr Boudreau.
And, I’m tired of ‘projects’ like
the soft Barrett Jones.w
vBoy people are all over the map on
Mr Hundley. Seems like a boom or bust type.So, who wants to trade down
from the ten spot?
If they want OLinemen, seems
like they could trade down
and still get a couple of solid ones.
Or is there a Zack Thomas type guy
available at the ten spot?w
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