Zooey wrote:

Here’s a question – since we are asking St. Louis fans what they think – here’s a question for everybody.
Suppose SK moves the Rams to LA. And a new team moves to St. Louis. Supposing the NFL goes Cleveland on this deal, and the Rams logo and horns stay in St. Louis with the new team, and Donald, Bradford, Bailey, and Quinn all play for the Los Angeles Surf. Now what? Which team do you follow?

I guess I’d follow both,
but my interest in the Los Angeles Surf would
probably fade after the old-ram-players retired or moved on.

Los Angeles Surf. I like that.

I’m still dizzy over all this — i was one of those
who really didnt think the odds were good that
the Rams would move.

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bnw wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>zn wrote:</div>
Hey guys. We have a kind of loose rule here that says there is just 1 LA thread per page. I’ve enforced that before by merging threads, so it’s not fair to those guys in those former merged threads if I don’t maintain consistency with that.

So…pretty soon, this gets merged in with the current big active LA discussion thread.

This thread is about names, not venues or ownership groups. Plus it is not about LA. It is entirely about St. Louis.

Yeah, its about name possibilities. Probably should move my Bernie article though. I wasnt sure where it would fit
so i put it here 🙂

There may very well be law suits galore before all this LA-St.Louis stuff is over.

I like the Saint Louis Jazz,
myself.
They could have a mean sinister saxophone
on their helmets. Or Charlie Parker.

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znhater wrote:

Once a fan, always a fan is what i say. Don’t matter where they play.

Yeah, thats how i am, but I’ve never
had a pro team in my city,
and I’ve never lived in a city, wedded to a pro team
and then had the team run off
for another city.

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http://www.rams-news.com/bernie-i-dont-want-to-cover-this-team-next-year-audio/
Bernie: “I dont want to cover this team next year…”

Dak wrote:

As for whether I’ll be a Rams fan if they leave St. Louis, time will tell. I’ll just see how I feel at the time. It’s not so black and white, the city vs. team thing. Right now, I can turn on talk radio and hear discussion about the Rams much of the year. I can talk with friends and family who follow the Rams. I can go to a game or camp, if I desire. That all goes away once they leave. And, if the NFL ever comes back, so does that experience.

So, we’ll just see what happens.

I was just gonna ask if any of the local St.Louis posters
are gonna keep following the Rams if they move to La.
I cant remember if Dak is the only local st louie regular
on this little board or if there are others. Is Trench in St.louis?

If i were an omnipotent Time Lord, I’d go back and fix it
so Bidwell lost his team in a poker game, and the new owner
kept the Cardinals in St.Louis,
and I’d fix it soze Carroll Rosenbloom never drowned, and the
LA Rams never fell into the hands of the Evil-Frontiere,
and thus they’d still be in LA.
I’d also make sure Modell never moved the Browns from Cleveland.
Also, the Colts should be in Baltimore.
Indy shouldnt even have a pro team. The Indy team should
be in West Virginia. It could be the WV Fighting Frackers.

Also, I’d bring back the Coastal Division.
I believe it was the Rams, Colts, 49ers and Saints.
Or Falcons. I forget.

Alrighty then. I’m snowed in. Got lotsa
time on my hands. I got tired of watchin
cars slide down my steep street into car-piles,
so now, I’m a-postin.

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fwiw
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The St. Louis Rams Would Be Worth $2.5-3.5 Billion The Moment They Moved To Los Angeles

http://www.businessinsider.com

The NFL is now closer to moving back to Los Angeles with news that St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke plans to build an 80,000-seat stadium in Inglewood, a move that would more than double the value of his franchise.

In the latest valuations released by Forbes.com, the Rams were dead-last, with a value of $930 million. Meanwhile, teams in the top-5 TV markets (L.A. is no. 2) all rank among the eight most valuable teams with an average value of $2.11 billion and those numbers are almost certainly on the conservative side as the Cowboys are probably worth closer to $5 billion.

The Buffalo Bills, valued just above the Rams at $940 million, recently sold for $1.4 billion. If teams in the top-5 TV markets are undervalued at the same rate, they would be worth $2.54-4.79 billion with an average of $3.16 billion and there is no reason to think an L.A. team wouldn’t be at the upper-end of that range.

So, while a new stadium may cost Kroenke $1 billion to build, he will more than make up for it with the increase in the value of the Rams alone.

Dunno if this has been posted:
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/STLSports/STLRams/tabid/137/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/15922/Peacock-Blitz-to-Present-St-Louis-Stadium-Plan-to-Nixon-on-Friday.aspx
Former Anheuser-Busch executive Dave Peacock and Clayton attorney Bob Blitz, heads of the St. Louis stadium task force, have released a statement in response to news Rams owner Stan Kroenke plans to build a new stadium Inglewood, Calif….see link
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Bernie on the LA issue:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-is-st-louis-in-or-out-as-an-nfl/article_11eae05a-e972-5864-84bc-94101f4277ae.html

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Agamemnon wrote:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24936785/nfl-draft-huskies-lbrb-shaq-thompson-headed-to-the-nfl

2015 NFL Draft: Huskies LB/RB Shaq Thompson headed to the NFL
By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
January 5, 2015 12:34 pm ET

Shaq Thompson scored four defensive touchdowns in 2014. (Getty Images)Shaq Thompson scored four defensive touchdowns in 2014. (Getty Images)

Washington linebacker Shaq Thompson announced Monday morning that he will skip his senior season and enter the 2015 NFL Draft. The junior also played offense for the Huskies, but his NFL future is expected to be on defense.

Thompson is currently ranked as the No. 10 overall prospect by NFLDraftScout.com and the top-ranked linebacker in the upcoming class. He is a projected top-15 pick with the versatility to fit any defensive scheme.

“I feel that I have accomplished a lot here in these past three years, and I’m so thankful to everyone for helping me achieve my goals,” said Thompson in a statement. “Now I’m looking forward to achieving a new set of goals, facing new challenges that come with being in the NFL. I’m excited to start the draft process, the next chapter in my life, but will forever and always be a Husky!”

Thompson was a two-way player for the Huskies in 2014, starring at linebacker on defense and running back on offense. He finished his junior year with 81 total tackles, three forced fumbles and four fumble recoveries, adding 463 rushing yards on offense and six total touchdowns (four on defense, two on offense). Thompson earned First Team All-Pac 12 and All-American honors and won the Paul Hornung Award as college football’s most versatile performer.

“Shaq Thompson has been a wonderful representative of the University of Washington and the Husky football team, and he has our full support as he takes this important step,” said Coach Chris Petersen said. “I look forward to what’s to come for him and to watching him embark on what will be a long, successful NFL career.”

Breaking him down as a NFL prospect, Thompson is an above average athlete with the pursuit speed to chase down ballcarriers and the closing burst and veracity to be a fierce finisher. He trusts what he sees and plays with excellent ball instincts, tearing through blocks to show up at the ball. Thompson does a nice job with his strike zone to wrap and finish as a tackler, using proper technique by distributing power through his hips. He does need to improve his take-on strength to better stack and shed blockers, but Thompson understands field leverage and aggressively attacks at the point of attack, making it tough to contain him.

Is it possible Fisher could take a
defensive player with the first pick?

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Rob Rang Mock

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24935958/nfl-mock-draft-eagles-soar-with-brett-hundley

10. St. Louis Rams – La’el Collins, OL, LSU: The Rams boast one of the league’s fastest defenses, but one-dimensional teams won’t be successful in the highly competitive NFC West. With a steep drop-off at quarterback following Mariota and Winston, the Rams might be best served again rolling the dice with Sam Bradford and Shaun Hill in 2015. Massive LT Greg Robinson showed flashes of why the Rams invested the No. 2 overall selection in him in 2014 and the Rams will have veteran Jake Long returning from injury in 2015. The interior, however, was a mess for St. Louis. Collins starred at left tackle for LSU but projects best to guard. His brute strength and tenacity make him one of the draft’s elite run blockers.

11. Minnesota Vikings – Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame: Current LT Matt Kalil struggled in 2014 and the Vikings may elect to draft someone to push him. Stanley is just a redshirt sophomore in his first season at left tackle, but the 6-6, 315-pounder boasts an exciting combination of agility, balance and power. Improving at left guard would make sense, as well, especially given the deep drops and power running game offensive coordinator Norv Turner prefers.

12. Cleveland Browns — Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford: As the only team with two first-round picks, the Browns have a lot of flexibility, including potentially making a good offensive line one of the league’s elite. A star left tackle for the Cardinal, Peat is blessed with remarkable balance and agility for a man of his 6-7, 315-pound dimensions. He would provide an upgrade over Mitchell Schwartz at right tackle and could be groomed to eventually take over for perennial Pro Bowler Joe Thomas.

Well Earl Morrall is out for the Colts
so I dont think they are going anywhere
with this Luck kid.

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TSRF wrote:

So do you think this means that Fisher and Harbaugh took over already rising teams and that Carroll came in when the team was at rock bottom?
Or do you think Carroll is an egomaniac and just blew it up to reform it in his own image?
Or, is the real question how many of those 8 pre-Fisher Rams will still be on the roster in two years?

Well to me it just means Carroll has done
a great job of building a great team.
And he didnt have the RG3 windfall either.

Still we dont know the future. Maybe
these young rams will win multiple Rings.
Who knows.

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:
Apparently Spags did a great job with that group. I didnt know
he had that job. I wonder if he’ll ever be a head coach again.

Do you like Fisher better as a coach or Spags ?

Spags did a great job–they fixed the entire secondary while playing week to week. Stewart even played well enough to start. Baltimore, I think, has a history of fixing things on the move. So for example, their superbowl year, they shifted the OL around just before the playoffs, and it paid off. I don’t think I have seen anyone do that before.

Of the 2, JF and SS, I like Fisher better. In comparison, Spags made too many “first time head coach” mistakes.

I think for sure Spags will be a coordinator again, and yes sooner or later a head coach. As you know, I think most anti-Spags stuff comes from just overlooking the incredible, dire effect the 2011 injuries had on everything. Plus it followed doing well in 2010. If there’s one thing that riles fans up, it’s raising their expectations and then stumbling. It brings out the “you are dead to me” mode in a lot of fans.

I agree with all that.

The ram players played hard for Spags.
Thats something that gets overlooked sometimes.

Sometimes Owners just want to recharge
the fanbase. Bringing in a new Head Coach
can do that, to state the obvious.

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zn wrote:

Except for the secondary they weren’t key players. Though they also have depth I think.

Apparently Spags did a great job with that group. I didnt know
he had that job. I wonder if he’ll ever be a head coach again.

Do you like Fisher better as a coach or Spags ?

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