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wvParticipantIMO the biggest negative with Foles was his holding onto the ball way too long… More often than not Foles simply throws the ball in an area and hopes for the best. I’ve yet to see him (with any consistency) hit receivers in stride or put the ball in a consistent place where the onus isn’t on the receiver to make a circus catch. Even on routine routes. I’ve been consistently voicing my concerns about him…
This is exactly what Zooey has been saying.
Is it possible Zooey,
is, Coach-OWouldnt that make Coach-O
a Raider fan?w
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wvParticipantI see that both Williams and Brown suffered season ending injuries on the Foles INT late in the game.
Thankfully Havenstein was already out with his calf injury so he managed to avoid a season ending injury trying to make a tackle….This is good posting,
right here. Excellent work.w
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wvParticipantWhat a train-wreck the offense has been.
Might as well try Case.
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Deadpool — could the Rams offense get even worse?I have been giving this some thought this morning and just got a chance to look at some stats.
The Rams are averaging 19 per game and I have a feeling they won’t average 15 the rest of the way.
Lets start with what they have done to date:
34 against Seattle – 7 of those from TAs punt return, and another 7 when Cam’s replacement fell and gave a gift TD to Kendricks. I know, you take’em all. But it was Cigs and Foles first game, so they had no tape against them.
10 against Wash. – A total disaster.
6 against Pitt. – See: Redskins, Washington
24 against Arizona – 7 of those came on a game opening kick return fumble @ the 13 yard line. Oh and the debut of some rookie running back that had 144 in the 2nd half.
10 against G.B. – Gurley had 30 carries for 159, Foles was not as up to the task: 11-30 and 4 picks…
24 against Cleveland – except 7 of those were on a McLeod fumble return. Gurley for a 128 and 2 TDs. A long of 48.
25 against – S.F. – 2 of those on a safety. Gurley again for 133 and 1 with a long of 71.
18 against Minn. – Gurley 89 and 1 with a long of 16. After 4 straight 100 yard games, maybe someone is figuring out Gurley needs to be stopped. At the very least, contained.
13 against Chi – Gurley with 45 and 1 with a long of 9… Yep, teams have figured out stopping Gurley is the key.
So in 9 games the Rams offense has scored more then 20 points 2 times. the Rams have won 1 game when Gurley has failed to run for less then 100 yards.
In the last 2 games, teams are doing everything they can to take away Gurley. That is going to be the theme from here on out. Defenses have more then enough tape on Cigs tendancies and on Foles that they won’t be surprising anyone. Same with Gurley.
Rams are also w/o their 2 starting OGs for the season, and their RT for at least a little while. This won’t make sledding any easier.
Foles has no confidence in his pocket. This depleted line will not make things for him any better. So I see no reason why Foles is going to improve.
Gurley may continue to pile up the yards, but its only going to get tougher. And anyone counting on 1 50 yard plus run a game to help win games is living in fantasy land.
On top of this the defenses coming up are: Balt., Cinn., Arizona, Det., Tampa, Seattle and S.F. – not the easiest defenses to navigate.
So TL;DR version – Teams selling out against Gurley, Gurley not sustaining 1-2 long runs a game, Foles seriously uncomfortable in the pocket, 3/5 of the starting OL missing and good defenses coming up lead me to believe that we have not seen the worst of the Rams offense just yet…
November 16, 2015 at 3:48 pm in reply to: A well coached team with good QB play is hard to beat (post-Bears game thread) #34226
wvParticipantIf Fisher goes 8-8, it will be his best year in StL.</span>
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Is that the good news
or the bad news?w
v“I have no interest at all in food and drink, but only in slaughter and blood and the agonized groans of mangled men”
― HomerNovember 16, 2015 at 2:07 pm in reply to: A well coached team with good QB play is hard to beat (post-Bears game thread) #34218
wvParticipantWhat’s wrong with Quinn? And J. Brown is done? Long is coming back soon, right?
I dunno, i cant find out what kind of injury he has exactly,
but he sat out last game, and limped around this game.Brown is done, yeah.
My hope for 10 wins is gone. my hope for 9 is sinking.
If Fisher goes 8-8 again, surely it will be some sort of
record.I wonder what QBs will be available in free agency?
Wonder if they’ll draft a QB?w
vNovember 16, 2015 at 1:45 pm in reply to: A well coached team with good QB play is hard to beat (post-Bears game thread) #34215
wvParticipantThat sucked. Foles was bad. Where was the D? Fisher teams do that way too often. Gonna have to steal games from the bengals and Seattle now
Well normally, I’d say this team is weird enough to do just that —
lose to the Bears and Ravens and then beat the bengals
and seahawks. But if Quinn is a shell of himself,
it changes everything. The Defense starts with Q and AD.w
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wvParticipantFoles sucks. Really, he does. I see no improvement in him at all.
I don’t know how to evaluate the WR. I know I see them open a lot, and not getting the ball in a catchable place, and I also see them dropping catches they should make. So I dunno.
Brown and Saffold are out now, so the OL is in trouble.
I can’t see any way the offense becomes more productive.
So I don’t care what Fisher has to say.
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Well, IF you are right about Foles.
Then….
Shit.
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wvParticipantGonna say yes.
Yeah, the London game bothered me a lot.
The one-sidedness of it. And there was
a Seattle game at the end of the year
that annoyed me. Maybe that was Spags,
I forget. The Washington game this
year was bad, but that was on the road.I dunno, but to me, this one, was
one of the worst regular season losses,
of the decade. And…its year Four.
Plus, now there are Injuries, so the
whole season may go down the drain.Reminds me a bit of a couple of
KC Chief games where the Rams got
thumped AND humiliated AND injured.w
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wvParticipantYeah I would have to say so.
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Well, we are ram fans. So,
thats sayin a lot.w
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wvParticipantDid you see the game? What do you think happened
today? I mean…WTF? None of us
was expecting anything like THIS.
Good lord.It;s not the same team, anywhere down the line, with both DEs being mostly silent.
Plus. Bad tackling showed up again on D.
Plus. The penalties and horribly timed mistakes showed up again on O. Negating 1st downs and one TD.
Plus. Foles was a mess. He’s not the least bit confident right now. He’s not the guy we saw in the Seattle game.
Plus. Hekker blew a fake. In Rams territory.
Everything that could go wrong, did.
Well the Bears were missing their top RB
and Alshon was hobbled and they were
on the road, etc.Apparently, the bears were still able
to avoid stupid penalties and tackle
ball-carriers, etc.I’m as mad as hell and I’m not taking
it anymore….I’m just gonna go
to the Window, open it, stick my
head out and say….um..
..Shit! Go Rams!w
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wvParticipantHe missed a couple of throws ? Actually he made a couple of throws but missed the rest of them…at home…. in the dome….with no wind…wide fucking open receivers…the whole damn gamne…
I picked a bad day
to give up crystal meth.Well, at least they have a good
defense, ya know. I mean a good defense
can carry a team….oh wait….So how will Fisher handle this fiasco?
I think I’ve seen this movie before — i
bet he uses humor, and tries to lighten
up the mood of the team. Maybe he talks
about starting over, etc. I dunno.w
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wvParticipantGeez-us H Cryste. A beat-down,
at home, by the lowly, injured Bears.
AND — injuries to the Oline, ta-boot.Its the Alamo.
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wvParticipantWell, there’s no way we should expect victories against either of those teams based on the way the Rams played today. Plus Havenstein’s status is uncertain and Brown is done for the year. Probably looking at 4 – 7.
Did you see the game? What do you think happened
today? I mean…WTF? None of us
was expecting anything like THIS.
Good lord.w
vNovember 15, 2015 at 7:18 pm in reply to: A well coached team with good QB play is hard to beat (post-Bears game thread) #34159
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LaramWhen you are good within the division but bad outside…its coaching.
In division = familiarity. You know who yoiur opponent is, and what they do.
Outside the division = Requires more preparation and game planning
Coaching.
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wvParticipantI was busy and couldn’t watch the fiasco.
Just saw the highlights and nfl.com
and saw the stats.I might be able to post rationally
at some point in the future,
but right now, I am…speechless.I have no words.
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“His descent was like nightfall.”
― Homer, The Iliad
wvParticipantI’m votin for Bern,
for all the obvious reasons,
but
he cant win,
for all the obvious reasons,
of course.He’ll do surprisingly well,
though. Which is nice.w
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wvParticipantAwesome, Mack. That’s great.
…I’ve been listening to a lot of old ‘socialist’ music lately.
I’ve been googling around and looking for old pro-labor folk singers
and such.And then i heard David Cross, the comedian, accidently.
I bought a music-CD at
the salvation-army and i didnt check what was inside the
case — and it turned out a David Cross comedy CD was
inside the CD case instead of the music-cd. So,
i listened to Cross, and he was great. Turns out
he’s a socialist of sorts. So, then i googled around
for socialist comedians. Thats where those to brit-comics
I posted, came from.Anyway, I have not listened to much of Lewis Black over
the years, but maybe I’ll give him a try.w
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wvParticipantI dont think so. No razzle-dazzle today.
I think Fisher will save that for Baltimore.
Today, i think they just play
straight up and rely on their
superior talent.w
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wvParticipantWell, their top RB back is out
and their big WR is gimpy,
and the game is in St.Louis,
and its a must win for the Rams.If they cant win this one,
then Fisher needs to have a sage
plant stuck up his ass and
burned in the city square.Thats for Lyser.
…my main concern right now
is Quinn. They can win today without
Quinn, but
on the road they will need
Donald AND Quinn or this defense
aint so scary. And the defense
has to carry the team, obviously.So, today, I am interested in Quinn,
and Welker and the non-existent passing
game. Can the Rams pass, at home,
against a losing team.w
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wvParticipantfrom Bernie Miklasz
http://www.101sports.com/2015/11/13/the-five-keys-to-a-rams-victory-over-chicago/
full article here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/reporters-preview-the-bears-game/#post-34085
3. Want To Do Better on Third Down? Here’s How: By now we’re tired of mentioning that the Rams’ third-down conversion rate, an abysmal 23.7 percent, is the poorest by an NFL team since the statistic became official in 1972….
Moreover, their second-down performance is lacking. According to STATS LLC the Rams are ranked last in the NFL in successful second-down plays …
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Yeah, its not a “third down problem” — it’s
an “Offense problem.”
A “pass offense problem” mostly.The question is,
is it the QB, the Receivers,
the Oline, the OC/Fisher,
or all of the above ?And is it going to improve?
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wvParticipantStewart Lee
November 13, 2015 at 7:18 pm in reply to: "While visiting family & friends I met a scout who did some work for the Rams" #34077
wvParticipantSuper bowl?
Lost me there.
Yup. Total bullshit.
I’m sorry but a team that cant convert
a third down is a Super Bowl team?
Please.Tbey have a chance to be a ‘wild-card level team’.
Ten wins. That sort of thing. But that is
a far cry from elite.w
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wvParticipantIncreasing the offensive playbook by 33% in one week might be too much too soon for the offense to absorb.
You guys dont seem to understand Fisher-ball —
Welker was brought in to RUN it up the middle.
Thats how Fisher will threaten the middle
of the field.The fourth play will be Welker up the gut.
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vNovember 11, 2015 at 5:30 pm in reply to: 101, 11/11 … Matt Bowen, Clayton, Schlereth, Michael Young, & Wagoner x 2 #33992
wvParticipantMichael Young on the passing game and Welker, etc
November 11, 2015 at 5:25 pm in reply to: 101, 11/11 … Matt Bowen, Clayton, Schlereth, Michael Young, & Wagoner x 2 #33991
wvParticipantSchlereth is a Denver guy, and he said
Welker looked really bad his last year in Denver.
Said he doubted there was much left in his tank.w
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wvParticipantWhat if some of the 6.5 billion people disappeared had to come from members of your family and friends?
Could you do it then for the good of the world?
Well the game rules are set by the “decider”. So,
you can make what ever rules you want. I think, originally,
I said no friends or family need be involved, etc.But if you want to set up a scenario where friends and family
have to be included — then…I’d have to think about it
harder.It might depend on ‘which’ family members ? 🙂
Again, ‘my’ argument is, that the biosphere is
seriously threatened now. FUTURE humans, animals,
and plants will not be born, if something doesnt change…
…so, what if someone eliminated all the “unkind” and “unwise”
humans….what would the future look like ‘then’…?Define ‘wise’ or ‘unkind’ anyway YOU want.
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wvParticipantFavored?! The Bears?! Over the Rams?!
Someone should take a pair of tweezers and carefully pull his pea brain out through his nose, rinse it in a mild bleach solution to clean off the ‘stupid’ and then reinsert it back into his heretofore useless head.Then maybe he won’t make ridiculous pronouncements like “the Bears should be favored if blah blah blah”…
Ok, I’d rate that flame, at a B+ level.
I would have given it an “A” if you had
mentioned the new Hall of Fame
QB/WR duo of Foles-to-Welkerw
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wvParticipantI wouldn’t do it if I had his concussion history.
yeah.
Well, i think he wanted to be
able to say, he played with three
Hall of Fame Quarterbacks.w
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