Damn. That aint your ordinary Will Smith
role, is it.

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PA Ram wrote:

wv wrote:

Haven’t seen it yet. Um….at the risk of losing
my accreditation…i thought the game was Sunday night.

Luckily i have NFL gameday-replay.

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I have Gamepass and am thinking of keeping it.

I just haven’t had luck with streaming sites this year and don’t feel like fighting them. Yes–I won’t see the games until the next day but I’ll still see them.

I have a few days to decide.

I like game-pass because, Now, i only
watch when the Rams
Win 🙂

Its a win-win situation.

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What High School was it?

I have always liked high school marching bands.
Despite all the hierarchical and military-industrial implications,
I like’em 🙂
I live next to Morgantown High School and the band
marches down my street every other week or so.
I enjoy it.

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Haven’t seen it yet. Um….at the risk of losing
my accreditation…i thought the game was Sunday night.

Luckily i have NFL gameday-replay.

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

This may sound wishy-washy but its how i see it — i agree
with both zn and rfl, in general.

I mean, I think i see what zack is saying and it makes
sense, but i also have a stream of thoughts/feelings in wv-brain
that watch the play of the offense and defense so far, and
that stream is going…”Its Year FOUR, WTF?!..”

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The trick will be how they look across the next 4 weeks.

Venturi predicted they will come out strong, at least tomorrow.

I see signs of that already. When you get guys like Quinn talking in public about how the team has to step up, to me, that means he’s echoing the coaches.

And this is of course about the defense. We know an offense with a new coordinator, a new qb, and a new OL is going to struggle.

BTW I think it is completely telling that even Hekker and GZ looked bad against Tenn, and then you read that Dallas had the exact same issues last weekend, also in all 3 phases—offense, defense, special teams.

I don;t think they played well against the Titans but I just took that as a one-time thing.

..

I look for that to happen too. I expect them to
play much better at home, and much better
since they should be pretty riled up, etc.

But is this the kind of team that is going to be
“Up and down” — AGAIN. Win a couple, look great,
lose a couple look awful. Etc, etc ?
Are they ever gonna be consistently excellent?

…I dunno. The defense aint proved
it can consistently stop the run,
and consistently rush the passer against a good OLine,
etc.
And the offense has just looked abysmal.

So…I dunno.

Thus, consequently, my contribution
to this thread is “I dunno.”

I think.
Therefore,
I dunno.

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There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception.”
― Aldous Huxley

This may sound wishy-washy but its how i see it — i agree
with both zn and rfl, in general.

I mean, I think i see what zack is saying and it makes
sense, but i also have a stream of thoughts/feelings in wv-brain
that watch the play of the offense and defense so far, and
that stream is going…”Its Year FOUR, WTF?!..”

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InvaderRam wrote:

i would take rgiii over mannion. i don’t know about foles. they’re both young. although rgiii clearly has more potential.
or not. i don’t know. that’d be tempting. i’m anxious about foles. i really hope the offense can show something against indy.

I haven’t seen enough of Foles to say much, but I’ll say this:
the guy sure don’t look graceful back there in the pocket.

Foles has more leadership skills in his little finger
than RG3 has in his whole body, though. Fwiw.

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“…Sasser is one of seven new hires announced by the Rams Tuesday. The others: Preston Black (business intelligence coordinator), Vitto Gonella (scouting assistant), Rebecca Lally (football information analyst), Michael Pierce (scouting assistant), Matt Segal (website coordinator) and Erica Sherman (player involvement and community outreach coordinator).”

Vitto Gonella?

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http://mmqb.si.com/monday-morning-qb-cris-carter-jordy-nelson-navorro-bowman-nfl
Peter King

…• You are kidding me, Cris Carter—and you are kidding me, NFL. My first reaction to the story of Carter telling NFL rookies at the 2014 Rookie Symposium that they have to find a “fall guy” in a player’s “crew” who will take the blame when the player commits a crime: My jaw dropped.

Precisely. Carter apologized, and though the NFL tried to distance itself from Carter’s idiotic remarks, how could the league have placed the offending video of his talk on NFL.com until yanking it Sunday? This is so offensive it boggles the mind that some person with the NFL would say, Let’s show the world this great advice about obstructing justice from a Hall of Fame hero to impressionable rookies. Also: How could NFL VP Troy Vincent, who is in charge of the symposium, have allowed Carter to spew such venom? Carter, by the way, was in his yellow Pro Football Hall of Fame blazer. In all ways, this is the biggest example of inmates running the NFL asylum that I’ve seen in years.

…

5. There are offensive line concerns in front of Manning—major ones. When has this happened: All three starters on the left side of the line have never played an NFL regular-season or playoff snap. “We’re still working on it,” Elway said. “We’re looking at all options. If we can find a player who can help us there as the season approaches, we’ll look at it.” Rookie left tackle Ty Sambrailo (second round), left guard Max Garcia (fourth round), and center Matt Paradis (sixth round, 2014, practice squad all last year) are the men under the microscope. Expect the Broncos to deal a low-round pick for someone’s line depth, or to pick up a lineman—probably a guard—on waivers.

6. The Broncos will likely do the Romo thing this year, and give Manning every Wednesday off. Just for insurance—and so the Broncos can see a little more of Brock Osweiler getting quality time with the first unit. “I think that’s the plan right now,” Elway said. “I think he’d feel better right now if he takes Wednesday off. His health is not a concern. His freshness is a concern.”
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I think if you wanted to tell me that San Diego pass-rusher Melvin Ingram will lead the NFL in sacks this year, I would not argue with you. What a get-off—as coaches say—Ingram has. He showed it Saturday night with two sacks early against Arizona. Ingram’s had a star-crossed injury history since being the Chargers’ top pick in 2012, missing 19 games, but he looked like Justin Houston around the edge on one sack Saturday night.
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I think it feels very much like you can see the end for Robert Griffin III in Washington. It started last year, with the blunt criticism of Griffin from his head coach, and it continues with subpar play this summer, and another mini-controversy last week, when he said he thought he was the best quarterback in the NFL. Which would be hilarious if it wasn’t so ridiculous. Then, former Washington return man Brian Mitchell, now with CSN Mid-Atlantic, went off in an epic rant addressed to Griffin.

“You need to shut the hell up and start playing football,” Mitchell said on air, via Pro Football Talk. “That will make you important. Win football games in this city, and you would have this city at the palm of your hands. You had it, and you’re starting to lose it because you talk. And there a lot of people that were supporting him that are now starting to turn their back, because they see a guy who seems to be so full of himself and not doing what he’s supposed to be doing. You came here to be a football player, not a damn philosopher.”

Mitchell capped it by saying the team has enabled Griffin too much, and not told him the harsh truth when he needs to hear it: “He does a lot of stupid stuff, and it’s about time he hears it instead of people kissing his tail all the damn time.” It’s compounded by the fact that Colt McCoy has had a good camp and is highly respected by the coaching staff. Especially after Griffin was knocked out of the team’s second preseason game. Seems like this has been said a lot, at the beginning of many weeks in the past year, but this is a big week for Griffin’s immediate and long-term future in Washington.

I think “cover-ups” should be taught in schools
beginning in first grade.
So that by the time kids
grow into corporate CEO’s and NFL Players
they aren’t confused about how to handle
these situations.

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

I also remember thinking Cignetti is not even
trying to call medium passing plays. He’s not
threatening the middle, he’s not calling for 20 yard zingers.
He’s just dinking and dunking and it looked like the defense

I have one word for you. “Link.”

Link —> http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Case-Keenum-to-Chris-Givens-for-an-80-Yard-TD/414c8370-cf3b-49d8-919b-022838565532

Well it would be nice to see Mr Foles do some of that
in the third game. Then again, I dont suppose they
want to risk having him stand in the pocket too long.

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Well we all agree i think that
that was a total fiasco on offense
and defense.

It was bad. I was expecting better
in game two. So, I’m not happy about it.

I did see a play by Foles that made me smile though.
That play where he danced a bit and hit Britt in
a very tight window. That one made me go…hmmmmm.

On the other hand, there was the INT where Foles just
looked like he was Helen Keller. I mean WTF.

So, i dunno what we have in Foles. I dunno.

I also remember thinking Cignetti is not even
trying to call medium passing plays. He’s not
threatening the middle, he’s not calling for 20 yard zingers.
He’s just dinking and dunking and it looked like the defense
knew that was all they were gonna have to defend. (I only watched
the first half) So, I dunno what that means. I’m hoping
the playcalling gets more sophisticated in the regular season.
I assume it will.

Obviously the disappointment on defense was the gaping holes
the RBs were running through. I dunno what to make of that.
Disappointing is all i can say at this point.

For me personally, Its way too early to say this team
cant be a 10-6 team. Ten wins is not anywhere near ‘elite’.
Its just a bit better than mediocre. I still expect
this team to win that many. Yes. I do. Still.

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rfl wrote:

PA Ram wrote:

I think that teams use the strength of this defense(quick defensive line–aggressive D) against us. They hit short quick passes or run through a blitz and set up their longer strikes. There isn’t a lot of TIME to hit the QB. And this defense is mostly about getting to that QB. When it happens–brilliant. Chaos strikes–good things happen. But teams know this and they’ll “sucker” this defense in sometimes…while knowing where the opening is for that quick pass. The Rams run out of position to defend, in a sense.

This is exactly correct.

I’ll just say that this has been the response of every competent offense to good pass rushes since Deacon and Merle’s time. And any decent DC knows it. If you’re going to get value from a great natural pass rush, you MUST have ways to challenge the quick passing game.

Williams, however, simply concedes the short passing game most of the time. So it isn’t just offenses using our strength against us. It’s Williams inviting them to do so.

I’ll say that I deeply resent the unsoundness of the deployments Williams seems inexplicably to love. As long as he keeps playing his secondary in the first row of the stands, our pass rush will accomplish little. For the reasons you note.

Well, we have all seen ‘some’ games where ‘that’ happened.
Ie, the opposing offense just dinked and dunked all the way
down the field, repeatedly, or at critical times.

But we know, Fisher and GW are not idiots, right? We know that.

So, we know there must be some reason why the Rams secondary,
“seemingly” has played too soft too much of the time, in the past.

RFL’s view seems to be “GW deploys his players in unsound ways”.

I just dunno if thats the truth, or a partial truth or what.
I just dunno. Perhaps there are other explanations or
perhaps the secondary is not playing as soft as it looks
most of the time. I dunno.

Its interesting that if RFL is right, then GW is totally reckless
with his front Seven and totally timid with his back four.

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NERam wrote:

wv wrote:

Such a big game for both teams, early on.
It kinda feels like a playoff game to me,
as a Ram fan.

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From the perspective of starting the season quickly, as opposed to waitng until game 6 to turn the jets on, yes, agreed, playoff game emotions.

However, the Rams have played them pretty well at home, so theres kind of an expectation that this should continue. For me, anyways.

The real coup will be getting a “W” in Seattle, on 12/27. I might be inclined to forego all rights to my Christmas presents if that could be arranged…

I have less patience now then I’ve had in a Long time.
It’s year four for Fisher. Lots of high draft picks.
Everyone is healthy. They are playing at home.

I am a tired, old, fed-up fan who will not be satisfied
with any moral victories or “they played Seattle tough” stuff.
Seattle is almost invincible in Seattle but on the road they
can be taken by good teams.

Anything less than a Win over a vulnerable Seattle team
is going to really vex my ass. Fwiw.

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rfl wrote:

wv wrote:

“Doubting Nittany”

Ah, Caravaggio! This is actually one of my favorite painters and paintings.

How about the self-portrait as Goliath’s severed head, a confession to the Pope for his guilt as a murderer? Meg and I actually saw that one in Rome. Amazing.

I think we, possibly, might agree, tentatively,
that we do indeed see some evidence
that suggests Caravaggio did show flashes of
elite talent.

Granted he was no Jackson Pollock. 🙂

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