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  • in reply to: draft thread 1/24…starting with Mayock … #17300
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    Daniel Jeremiah’s top 50

    http://www.nfl.com/top50

    1 Williams DE USC
    2 Gregory LB Nebraska
    3 White WR, WVU
    4 Cooper WR, Alabama
    5 Shelton NT, Wash
    6 Winston QB FSU
    7 Fowler, LB, Fla
    8 Ray, DE, Missouri
    9 Parker, WR, Louisville
    10 Gordon RB, Wisc
    11 Mariota, QB Oreg

    First OLineman is Clemmings
    at 15

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    Peacock and Blitz leaned on financing in other facilities when they crafted their plan. They incorporated $200 million in NFL loans — as has each recent new building. They included a $200 million match from Rams owner Stan Kroenke, as is required by the NFL loan. They estimated that extending payments on debt for the 20-year-old Edward Jones Dome, where the Rams now play, could provide another $350 million or so.
    And the last major contribution? The sale of as much as $130 million in seat licenses.
    Peacock has declined to discuss the seat licenses.
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    Who owes that debt-money on the 20-year-old Ed Jones dome? I dont really understand
    where that 350 million comes from. Someone explain it.

    And how come Peacock wont talk about seat licenses?

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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17295
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    Good stuff. Interesting.

    I suppose the league is not going to want
    the Pats to win now. Ya know. Just
    in case it turns out the Pats are
    intentional-deflators

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    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17294
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    Yeah, I have my share of friends who ain’t candidates for scholarships to Cambridge, but are spooky gifted smart in an area or 2, like let’s say electronics. I believe there’s something like “football smart.”

    I liken it to “street smarts” or thinking on your feet which I value a lot more than a 4.0 GPA.

    I personally dont have street smarts,
    but i have tree smarts. Like i can just
    look at a Christmas tree and i can virtually
    read its mind. I’m uncanny that way.

    But do they ever test that kind of thing
    on IQ-tests ? No. They do not.

    I also, have wiffle-ball-smarts. I
    am probably the best wiffle-ball player
    in the country. Does Peter King ever
    come to interview me? No. He does not.

    Lots of different intelligences
    out there. I suspect Ag is a
    scalloped-potato-genius, btw.
    Sdram is a bar-b-Q genius.

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    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17277
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    Montana smart? From what I’ve heard and read he was not the brightest bulb in the room. However, what he did have was the eyesight of a bird of prey ! He could literally see the entire field at the snap of the ball -and clearly. One of the greatest assets a qb can have is extremely high level eyesight. I think that is a crucial element that made Montana “great”.

    I’ve read that “not the brightest bulb” stuff about Montana, but I’ve also read that
    about Aikman, Marino, Ferragamo, Kilmer, Nittany etc. I dont pay much attention to that stuff.
    I mean football-smart is one kind of ‘smart’. There’s a gazillion kinds of ‘smarts.’ Thats
    why i have issues with IQ tests. There are so many kinds of ‘smart’ that arent tested
    on those things….blah blah blah.

    Seemed to me, Montana had everything cept the big Arm.
    He also had a Genius coach. Like Brady/Belichick.
    I dont think the value of having a great coach
    can be under-estimated.

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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17268
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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17266
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    http://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/how-they-were-built/
    How Pats and Hawks were built

    “…Applying that practice meant that when the Seahawks broke through in 2012, they were the youngest team in the league. The 2014 Seahawks are a more mature team, both on the field and in terms of the development cycle of a group of players, but many of the same methods still apply….”

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    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17264
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    in reply to: 101, 1/23 … Wagoner, Brian Billick, Ricky Proehl #17259
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    Proehl on the Catch
    http://www.rams-news.com/ricky-proehl-discusses-his-famous-catch-in-the-99-nfc-champ-game-audio/

    “I see John Lynch all the time…you almost wanna be a jerk…”

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    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17257
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    High-caliber football discussion is not about “fun.”
    It’s a life or death struggle to see who is right, and who in contrast must be consigned to the dustbin

    Vermeil was a Figurehead.

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    in reply to: JT chat 1/23 #17256
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    h, and the movie script would have us win the Super Bowl, Sam hoisting the Lombardi, and then pack everything up and move to LA
    by tom 3:46 PM

    Would the parade be in LA.
    by jthomas 3:46 PM
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    renewed season tickets yesterday. I hope others do as well. We need to show the NFL that we support Dave Peacock and the players. Saw where Saints owner (87 yrs old) disowned his family. Can you say St Louis Saints.
    by ramsfan 4:24 PM

    OK. we know they’ll be at least one fan in the stands next year. . . . .
    by jthomas 4:25 PM
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    JT’s is a little funnier than usual.
    He’s never exactly been the Louie CK
    of sportswriters.

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    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17253
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    Montana went to the Championship game in Kansas City and was a concussion away from the Super Bowl that year, and that was without Bill Walsh.
    it took Steve Young, (who I think is better than Russell Wilson) some salary cap magic, border line cheating from Carmen Policy to get Steve Young to the Super Bowl.

    Montana was a great QB………

    I like Wilson, but he was drafted on pretty complete Seahawks teams. You have to consider that even Charlie Whitehurst won playoff games with Seattle.

    I agree, Montana was great. But the question is what does ‘great’ mean. Its contested ground as to what “great” means
    when we are talking about a player who is one eleventh of a Team. Its hard to isolate their attributes and its
    hard to compare ‘greatness’ for all the obvious reasons. This kind of thing is never ‘settled’ — its just
    a continuous conversation, with people wondering about all sorts of things over time. Fun stuff, in other words.

    For me, the Chief experience supports ‘my’ position — I remember thinking at the time, Montana looks good as a Chief
    but not nearly as good as when he was with Bill Walsh. The Montana vs Elway game was fun as i recall. Now we have Wilson vs Brady 🙂

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    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17245
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    I wouldn’t put Wilson in Montana’s class…not even a little. Montana was a smooth, smart, heady qb quarter by quarter who could engineer a great passing game and did it early on WITHOUT Craig or Rice. Montana had already played on a superbowl team 2 seasons before they drafted Craig and 5 seasons before Rice. The 1981 SF offense is Montana, Ricky Patton, Clark, Solomon, and Earl Cooper at FB. He did it while SF was 9th in passing attempts and 19th in rushing yards. They too (in 81) had a top-ranked defense.

    Wilson is a gamer in an offense that does NOT depend on him to throw from the pocket 4 quarters. That makes him a perfect fit for an offense that takes advantage of his read-option skills while limiting his throws.

    The Rams have regularly matched up with Seattle because short of the occasional Ogletree screw-ups, they are set up to both limit Lynch and contain Wilson, making him a pocket passer. When that works…it works, though they haven’t had the qbs the last few games to take advantage (Clemens, Davis, Hill).

    Meanwhile the strategy of just containing Montana would never have worked like that. He was too quick-minded and savvy as a passing qb.

    Now people can argue that being clutch is tops, and that a read-option qb isn’t really to be judged the same as a more pure pocket passer (and compared to Wilson that’s what Montana was).

    So he belongs to a different category, and is perfect for Seattle’s situation.

    But my instinct is, put Luck on Seattle and they thrive, put Wilson on the Colts and they struggle.

    Well, I am not persuaded.

    For one thing, I think that view minimizes the “Bill Walsh is an Offensive Genius” factor.
    A lot of what Montana did was because Walsh designed such a magnificent offense.
    I suspect if you put Russell Wilson on that 49er team, nothing much changes.
    Who knows though.

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    in reply to: the ballad of Johnny Manziel… #17243
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    “You can’t blame Johnny. This is who he is. The team knew that.”

    I like that. Its almost like a Haiku.

    You cannot blame Johnny.
    This is who he is.
    The team knew that.

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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17242
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    My response: Integrity of the game? What integrity? It’s played by a bunch of malcontent, maladjusted, violent thugs for the most part who are druggies, rapists, murderers, spousal abusers, on and on.

    And we love the game because the uniforms hide it all.

    You forgot the Robber-Barron-Owners, and Corporate-Lawyers,
    Corporate-Agents, and the rest of the chain of Corporate-Being 🙂

    At any rate, its a good question: Why do we love pro football?

    I think i love it cause i just love the game itself. The drama of it.
    The chess matches. The highs and lows. There’s some primal resonance
    going on too, i guess. I dunno.

    I love Tapirs too. And cheese cake. And birch trees.
    And Haiku. Just so you know.

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    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17217
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    Conversation about Wilson reminds me a bit
    of the conversations about Joe Montana over
    the years. Montana was surrounded by an allstar
    cast, and he didnt have the big arm,
    but he was clutch, and tough and smart, etc.
    Was he as pure a passer as Marino or Bert Jones
    or the stud-athletes? Nah.

    But he was Montana. And R.Wilson is R.Wilson.
    …yeah, i dunno what that means either 🙂

    If i were starting a team, i would take
    a Luck over Wilson. And i would take a young
    A.Rogers over Wilson. After that it gets murky.

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    Laram

    2 of the INT’s came off of perfect passes that receivers muffed so you can’t just look at the numbers.

    If I were starting a team today, it would begin with Russell Wilson.

    Aaron Rodgers is the best most gifted passer in the NFL, but Wilson is the best clutch player in the game.

    He’s a winner. You can always count on him to make the play(s) to win the game.

    People that want to claim that he’s a product of his defense haven’t paid attention.

    Go back to the NFC Championship game against the Whiners. Hags don’t make it w/o his clutch throws in the 4th qtr.

    The dude is money, and has been throughout his brief career..

    I don’t care if you win it with Showtime or you win it with the triangle.

    To coin a phrase…just win baby. And Russell Wilson wins!!

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    in reply to: 101, 1/23 … Lillibridge #17187
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    He always just seems to be giving
    yer basic conventional wizdom.

    Yeah 101 has done gone stale on us.

    Used to be, you would look forward to it. (Granted I liked Softli.)

    Now it’s “enh.”

    Yup. And Will Witherspoon cant hold Sotfli’s
    jock-strap.

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    in reply to: 101, 1/23 … Lillibridge #17185
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    You know for a guy thats been
    “a scout, a player and an agent”
    I cant think of anything Lilbridge
    has ever said on the air that was
    peculiarly and singularly insightful.
    He always just seems to be giving
    yer basic conventional wizdom.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    It should be longer since the Pats should have been banned from the SB for cheating, but /sigh..whatever.

    Now would you really want to see a Colts vs Seahawks title game?

    It would be 45 to 6.

    No, its better to have the two vilest teams
    in the league going at it. Its like Predator vs Freddy Krueger
    or Triple H versus The Iron Sheik or somethin.

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    in reply to: 2015 Senior Bowl #17142
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    in reply to: Plays that shaped Rams' season: No. 10 #17139
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    I either forgot or didnt know that it was
    Mcleod’s communication-mistake that allowed
    Dez to streak downfield with no one guarding
    the deep zone.

    So there were two mistakes i guess:
    JJ biting on the double move,
    and
    Mcleod not being in the deep zone.

    There are a lot of goofups this year
    by the Rams that kinda remind me of
    the mistakes the Packers made in Seattle.
    Cept the Packers made them all in One game.

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    “…..Four plays into the third quarter, Dallas quarterback Tony Romo found a wide open Dez Bryant for an easy 68-yard touchdown to make it 21-17. While the Rams still had the lead, it was an ominous sign not only for that game but other games that would follow.

    Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins spent the day shadowing Bryant and had done an exemplary job but a miscommunication between Jenkins and safety Rodney McLeod allowed Bryant to break free for the easy score. Jenkins took Bryant underneath with McLeod supposed to provide the help over the top. Instead, McLeod took the crossing route over the middle but failed to communicate that to Jenkins.

    “It was supposed to be passed off, but it was not communicated,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said then. “He can tell the corner that he’s going to take the crossing route. He didn’t.”
    looking to jump underneath as Bryant continued on the post route. Earlier in the game, Jenkins had intercepted Romo and returned it 25 yards for a touchdown, throwing up Bryant’s trademark ‘X’ as celebration in the process.

    “As soon as I seen him flip his hips, I knew I had him,” Bryant said after the game…”
    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/15544/plays-that-shaped-rams-season-no-10

    Jenkins also took the bait on Bryant’s double move

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    Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora)

    Former Bills OC Nathaniel Hackett interviewed for the Rams OC job yesterday. Rams have been considered Rob Chudzinski as well among others….
    The Rams have Sam Bradford returning from a second torn ACL and have said they’d like to have him compete with someone else for the starting quarterback job this offseason, although Bradford will probably need to adjust his contract since he stands to make nearly $13 million after playing just seven games the last two years.

    …one wonders if they really want to
    talk about EJ Manuel ?

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    in reply to: Rams losing scout #17116
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    Oh, and take a look at this silly Draft-Re-Do thingy.
    Check out who the Ravens get at no.17:
    http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/20/2014-nfl-draft-redo-derek-carr-odell-beckham-jr-jadeveon-clowney?page=2&devicetype=default

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    in reply to: Super Bowl build-up #17113
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    I do really like Richard Sherman. I can’t help it. He’s got game, and while he talks trash, for the most part it’s pretty smart trash.

    He’s my favorite non-Ram, I think. Though, come to think of it, I don’t think there is another player on that particular list.

    I like him too,
    but i wouldn’t mind
    seeing him learn some humility.

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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17089
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    http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/12198323/indianapolis-colts-interception-led-question-whether-new-england-patriots-deflated-balls

    “…Former NFL official Jim Daopoulos, in an interview with ESPN on Monday morning, explained the process in which footballs are managed. Two hours and 15 minutes before each game, officials inspect 12 footballs from each team and put a mark on them to indicate they meet the proper requirements and are good for usage. Then those footballs are given to the ball attendant.

    There also is a second set of six footballs, used specifically for the kicking game, that are marked appropriately and remain in the possession of officials at all times.

    “Officials check balls as they go into the game, and if the ball doesn’t feel perfect, they can throw it out,” Daopoulos said. “There is always the possibility that balls can lose air due to the conditions.”

    A team can be fined if it is found….”

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    in reply to: happy birthday Ramsmaineiac #17086
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    Thanks for the Board,
    RM. Happy Birthday.

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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17082
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    Also, i disagree with those that think “cheating is cheating
    whether it helps the Pats or not.”
    I think there is a significant difference between “cheating
    that helps” and “cheating that doesnt”. Its like one
    is a traffic violation, and one is a Felony. Kinda.

    Well, you’re coming at this like a lawyer, I guess. But, I have no idea how you can think that New England, or anyone, would cheat without expecting an advantage. Why cheat, if you don’t expect an advantage? With the Patriots, you really have no idea how much of what they do would help or hurt, anyway. You just don’t. It’s up to interpretation. Hell, the NFL had no idea whether bounty gate helped or hurt the Saints, either, or whether it was responsible for hurting other players. But, a clear line was crossed. Once you cross that line, you’re in violation. How much or whether you affected the outcome of the play is difficult to quantify. But, there’s a reason those lines were drawn in the first place.

    And, you can’t help but think if indeed the Patriots did this once, maybe they’ve been do it all along, for years.

    But, I’ll wait to see what the NFL says officially. Should be interesting.

    Well I am still a-thinkin-on-it. So far, I’m not persuaded it was a ‘big deal.’

    Probably partly because I am old 🙂 And back in the olden days, coaches and players
    did all kinds of stuff that would be called “cheating” by today’s fans. George Allen
    was accused of putting spies in trees by Tom Landry, for example.
    I can just imagine what John Madden’s Raiders did to the opponents
    balls 🙂

    I just dont have enuff information yet. Not enuff context.
    For example what if some players come out and say “oh hell lots of
    coaches deflate balls. Its happened a gazillion times over the years.
    We all just laugh about it.”

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    Browns pass on Rams-affiliated coordinator candidates
    By Nick Wagoner

    [espn.go.com]

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Another offensive coordinator job went off the board Wednesday morning when the Cleveland Browns decided to go with former Raiders quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo to fill their vacancy.

    That news came a day after it was revealed that the Browns had showed interest in a pair of intriguing candidates with ties to the St. Louis Rams. Cleveland spoke to current Rams quarterbacks coach Frank Cignetti and former Rams head coach Mike Martz about the job on Tuesday at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. In their own way, both of those conversations came as a bit of a surprise.

    Cignetti has been the Rams quarterbacks coach since 2012 when Jeff Fisher came on as head coach. Cignetti has coordinator experience at the college level, doing the job at Fresno State, North Carolina, Cal, Rutgers and Pittsburgh. He has never done it at the NFL level, however.

    Martz has been out of the league since after the 2011 season following stints as offensive coordinator in San Francisco, Detroit and Chicago after his departure from St. Louis. He was the Rams head coach from 2000 to 2005, compiling a 56-36 record that would probably be a welcome sight around St. Louis these days.

    In the past 24 hours, the Browns (DeFilippo), Jacksonville Jaguars (Greg Olson), Oakland Raiders (Bill Musgrave), Baltimore Ravens (Marc Trestman) and New York Jets (Chan Gailey) have filled their offensive coordinator jobs. Neither Cignetti nor Martz has been tied to the open job in St. Louis to this point.

    It’s unlikely Martz would be an option for the Rams though it would be a lot of fun for fans and media. Cignetti is an in-house candidate who could be considered though most signs point to tight ends coach Rob Boras being the strongest possibility of those on the current staff.

    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17071
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    let’s be clear. on offense one team uses their balls exclusively. the other team uses their balls exclusively when they’re on offense.

    so yeah it can create an advantage. for sure. would it have made a difference of 30 points? probably not. but it definitely makes a difference.

    Can you picture some of the Signs
    at the Super Bowl now 🙂

    There’s gonna be a lot of signs
    with ball on Scales and such,
    i figure.

    Unless the NFL bans signs.

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    in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17068
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    I don’t think we know WHO played with the deflated balls yet and what the advantage was. Assuming a better grip in shitty conditions. What if Brady got this advantage but Luck didn’t? Just cause they were not caught cheating post spygate doesn’t mean they didn’t. They have a history. TAINTED. I don’t know how many SB they would have won if they had not cheated. Nobody does. Shame because maybe they are great or maybe they won only because they cheated.

    We don’t know.

    TAINTED.

    Yeah, i got no problem with “we dont know” and perhaps “tainted.”

    But thats not the same as “Light the Torches
    and burn them in the Iron Maiden.”

    Also, i disagree with those that think “cheating is cheating
    whether it helps the Pats or not.”
    I think there is a significant difference between “cheating
    that helps” and “cheating that doesnt”. Its like one
    is a traffic violation, and one is a Felony. Kinda.

    I’m amazed, btw, that the Refs dont weigh all the balls
    and check on that stuff before and during the game.
    I’m sure the NFL will NOW make some changes.

    I’m having a little trouble believing that that
    total butt-whipping the Pats gave the idiot-Colts
    was because of “deflated footballs.” I’m
    having trouble buying that. Nobody needs
    to cheat to beat the Colts in the playoffs.

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