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ParticipantI think some of this is about money. Bradford and his agent wouldn’t budge, at least that’s what I’ve read.
Ah. Money. I hadn’t thought of that. Maybe.
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ParticipantSo the Seahawks just improved their Superbowl-caliber team by adding Jimmy Graham.
Meanwhile, the always hapless Rams just traded their injured but talented QB for another injured QB with less upside.
Ok, I think a pattern is starting to materialize.There’s just somethin about Bradford
they didnt like.I have only seen Foles stats. I’m
curious what kind of “leader” he is.
Cause i got a feeling the Rams
might want a different type of leader.
Just wild speculation of course.Sam Bradford, an Eagle. Wow.
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ParticipantWow.
I could puke.
Easily the dumbest move of the Snisher regime.
This just came out of nowhere, didn’t it? I wasn’t prepared for such a vast amount of dumb all at once. Not out of Snisher, anyway. Even though they didn’t all work out, up to this moment their personnel decisions have been pretty smart. Some might have been questionable, but at least they were all grounded in logic.
This though…
I don’t know what you call this.
Well, could be. Could be. I dunno.
Maybe not. We’ll see, i guess.
I wonder if the new QB coach had something
to do with this?Was it Bradford’s “personality” ?
IS Foles one of them fiery types?w
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ParticipantI have a feeling there’s gonna be a lot of
ram fans gnashing their teeth this offseason.
Especially if the Cards get Adrian Peterson.I can understand that. The other teams are
doing splashy things.But if the Rams really do find three
solid, nasty, Beasts for the Oline —
I dont care who the QB is — they’ll
have a winning season. They wont be pretty,
but they’ll win. Just my opinion.w
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ParticipantAlbert Breer @AlbertBreer
Alright … The basic agreement between the Rams and Eagles includes a swap of picks this year and a conditional going to Philly nextwv
ParticipantJim ThomasVerified account
@jthom1
I can confirm Schefter report that it looks like this Bradford trade is going down. Wow. Totally out of left field.wv
ParticipantWell i’m stunned. This
is kinda hard to believe.w
vMarch 10, 2015 at 11:59 am in reply to: 49ers zeroing in on Torrey Smith & other doings around the league #19768wv
ParticipantMarch 10, 2015 at 11:48 am in reply to: Eagles rumors: Sanchez, Foles, Mariota … including Foles to Rams #19767wv
ParticipantI’d simply add, however, that they also have no OL. They need a QB (or 2) AND they need at least 3 solid OL likely to stay healthy. (If they re-sign Barksdale, it will be 2.)
They have major challenges this off season. That’s what happens when you rebuild your roster but your quality QB is a bust due to injury and you largely fail in rebuilding the OL.
I dont know anything about Foles. Seems like
another version of S.Hill to me, but, I dunno.The QB question is just gonna be a bit of a crap-shoot.
It just is. Its the nature of the position.But the OLine can be fixed.
So…I expect them to fix it.And after its fixed, I expect
a winning season even if Trent Dilfer
is taking snaps.Let Bradford have his shot,
sign a Vet, draft a Rookie…
but add three or four solid
BEASTS to the Oline.w
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ParticipantWinnbrad wrote:
Winnbrad wrote:
30 receivers, 23 o-lineman. That’s depressing. And that vid is from the 2013 season, right?No. Week 7 of 2012.
Awesome set-up he had for that game. Steve Smith, Austin Pettis, Brandon Gibson and Chris Givens as his receivers. Only Givens remains, and probably not for long. The only lineman still on the team from that game is Barksdale; and again, probably not for long.2012. That’s even more depressing. He’s probably had 40 WRs and 30 o-lineman by now.
I’m hesitant to depress you any further, but…
Craig Dahl was our starting strong safety for that game too.
I bin havin problems with the inter-nets,
but the phone company reattached the wires
to my house so I am once again able to
type words and send them into space.Good to see you on the board X.
The universe keeps unfolding,
apparently.w
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“Every man has within himself the entire human condition”
― Michel de Montaignewv
ParticipantAlso, Bears sign Clausen.
http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/transactions/nfl/all/today/
Bears re-signed QB Jimmy Clausen.
Clausen appeared in four games for the Bears last season, making one start in Week 16 after then-coach Marc Trestman benched Jay Cutler. Clausen ended up suffering a concussion and was forced to miss Week 17. The former second-round pick completed 26-of-48 passes for 223 yards (4.6 YPA), two touchdowns, and one interception. He’ll compete for the backup job.
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Jets acquired WR Brandon Marshall from the Bears in exchange for a fifth-round pick.
This should effectively end Percy Harvin’s time with the Jets, as well. The Jets will take on Marshall’s $9.575 million cap hit and rid themselves of Harvin’s $10.5 million, sliding Marshall in opposite Eric Decker. Marshall now gives the Jets a true No. 1 receiver, allowing Decker to settle back in as a complementary No. 2. It had become increasingly clear over the past 24 hours that Marshall wasn’t coming back to Chicago. New Jets coach Todd Bowles was with Marshall in Miami from 2010-2011. Marshall’s fantasy outlook takes a hit going from Marc Trestman’s offense to Geno Smith, but new OC Chan Gailey has always had a creative mind. He should remain a solid WR2 and see around 100 targets.
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BC Washington’s Dianna Marie Russini reports free agent Brian Orakpo “will not be back” with the Redskins next season.
It’s a tough decision, but ultimately the right one. Orakpo seems to get hurt every year and the Redskins drafted his potential successor in Trent Murphy. Orakpo has already been connected to a number of teams, so the Redskins wouldn’t be able to get him back at a discount. Assuming his tenure in Washington is over, Orakpo will finish his Redskins career with 40 sacks across 71 appearances.
—-The Colts announced they will not re-sign free agent Reggie Wayne.
NFL free agency is not for the feint of heart. Already this week we’ve seen the Pats kick Vince Wilfork to the curb, the Steelers practically beg Troy Polamalu to hang up his cleats and now Wayne, an Indianapolis lifer, is being shown the door. Wayne hasn’t been the same player since his ACL tear and at 36, a return to form seems unlikely. Wayne was only 235 yards away from tying Marvin Harrison for the most receiving yards in team history. Given his age and recent injury struggles, Wayne will probably have to settle for a one-year deal if he decides to play next season.
———–The Dolphins are confident they’ll sign free agent Ndamukong Suh, according to the Miami Herald.
Suh is expected to command in the neighborhood of six years and $102 million with over $30 million guaranteed. That would make Suh the richest defensive player of all-time, ahead of J.J. Watt. Miami recently released Brian Hartline and Cortland Finnegan to make room for a top-flight free agent. Mike Wallace could be next on the chopping block if the purge continues. The Raiders and Colts have also been linked to Suh, who can begin negotiating with teams Saturday.wv
ParticipantTough, tough player. Became
as classy a leader as Rams have had.You know, uniformed fan types bug me.
If Jackson were so great, why did the Rams just release him this week?
Hunh? Answer me that.
The Rams released him because he wouldn’t
take a pay-raise like Tom Brady did.
Which just proves that Jackson was
always a disloyal traitor.w
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ParticipantWhat about the block on the goal-line.
That was my favorite SJ play.Tough, tough player. Became
as classy a leader as Rams have had.Took me a while to warm up to SJ.
Not easy following Marshall Faulkwv
Participant“… Under Carey, Goldman Sachs has worked on more than two dozen stadium deals, the company says, amounting to more than $11 billion in financing.
Carey’s specialty is crafting deals that are lucrative for team owners, often at the expense of taxpayers. What sets him apart, say his clients and critics, is his ability to steer projects through conflicting interests of teams and local government officials. He often does so by using obscure tools available in public finance to help owners get low-interest loans, avoid taxes or tap subsidies….”I did not
need to read this,
first thing in the Morning.Do you have any cute bunny videos?
Maybe a dog playing with an orangutan?w
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ParticipantWell, lets see how the offseason unfolds, rfl.
Lets see what they do about the Oline.I think i remember some teams that looked
pretty bad all around, and then they fixed
their Olines in One Year, and they looked
like totally different teams. Giants, and
Arizona come to mind.I think ive become the “Old Hacker” of this
board (wv hacker?)
But damn, the Oline is the engine. Everything —
i mean everything starts with the OLine.Fixing the Oline gets them to ten and six, i think.
Then, in year FIVE, maybe they learn how to stop the run 🙂
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ParticipantEven if Gaines started, they still need a physical cover corner opposite him.
That could be. We’ll see on JJ though.
Well its sure look’in like
JJ is gonna be Mr Inconsistency.But they say he is a hard worker
and studies a lot of film, so
maybe he’s studying his own
weaknesses this offseason.If you could go back in time
and make the decision
would you draft JJ again ?w
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ParticipantBrian De La Puente would be a nice bargain basement sign. He has always graded well when he started and I was impressed with him in New Orleans.
I noticed Brian De La Puente too.
The over 30 guys don’t bother me. This is the kind of year where they can sign a 30+ guy and then draft someone at the same position.
Yeah, age doesn’t really factor into it for me; i just
think they need to go nutz on the oline.
They kinda have the luxury of doing that
this year. If ya wanna call it that.
It’ll get’em to ten and six.
Then in year five they can
tinker around with WRs
or LBs or RBs or whatever.w
vMarch 5, 2015 at 4:54 pm in reply to: Here's why the Philadelphia Eagles won the big LeSean McCoy trade #19497wv
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Greg Cosell’s analysis: Breaking down the Eagles-Bills trade
[sports.yahoo.com]
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-analysis–breaking-down-the-eagles-bills-trade-175905938.html
The Philadelphia Eagles are a fascinating team this offseason, and their big trade this week makes them even more interesting.Let’s assume Eagles coach Chip Kelly wants to draft University of Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota. That’s a reasonable assumption, considering all that has been said about it. What that ultimately means is that if the Eagles have any chance of moving up to draft Mariota, they have to give up draft picks, and likely draft picks from this season. A team positioned high enough in the draft for the Eagles to take Mariota will want to get better right away.
So if we assume that’s what the Eagles want to do (that’s not to say it’s a guarantee to happen, of course), the Eagles can’t get better through the draft because they’ll have to give away so many picks. So what do the Eagles have to do? They have to cut cap. And they just got rid of about $10 million of cap charges by trading running back LeSean McCoy.
It’s just my sense – I don’t know it as a fact – that Kelly is far more comfortable with veterans than draft choices anyway. I don’t think he’d mind trading some if he could sign two or three free agents instead. And a free agent like Seattle Seahawks cornerback Byron Maxwell is not going to come cheap.
So the Eagles’ trade might have been done with an organizational philosophy or a bigger plan in mind. But let’s take a closer look at McCoy, who was traded to the Buffalo Bills.
I don’t think McCoy ran as well last season as he has in the past, and certainly not as well as he ran in 2013. His numbers reflected that. But I don’t think that he’s at the end of the rope, considering he’ll be just 27 years old. He’s a very, very good back. But he is a certain kind of runner.
McCoy is a space runner. In 2013, he had a lot of space. All five starters on the Eagles’ offensive line started every game and they were great. McCoy had a lot of room to run. When the Eagles had personnel issues on the line in 2014, McCoy didn’t have that space, and when that happens he tends to bounce runs outside. That’s not necessarily a knock, because McCoy has bounced runs outside and made many phenomenal plays that way. But that’s his style as a runner and if the play isn’t blocked well with initial space and a clear seem, his tendency of bouncing it outside is exacerbated.
Here’s an example from Week 4 at San Francisco. The line didn’t block it great, and with no clear seam McCoy bounced it outside and was stopped for no gain.
McCoy isn’t a sustaining runner, in that when there’s 3 yards for him to get he’s not going to fight through traffic and get 6 yards. Again, that’s not a knock on McCoy, it’s just the type of runner he is. I think the Eagles would have an easier time replacing what he does compared to the Seahawks replacing what Marshawn Lynch does or the Cowboys replacing what DeMarco Murray does. Backs who can grind it out and can bring a punishing mentality for 25 or more carries are hard to find. More backs can hit gaps, especially in the Eagles’ offense that is built on spacing and stretching the field. But McCoy is a tremendous back and the Bills will play to McCoy’s strengths. And I really think they made a good move trading for Matt Cassel.
Cassel is your classic (for lack of a better term) system player. He needs a strong run game, and obviously that will be the foundation of the Bills’ offense. Cassel has always been a good play-action quarterback. He has never had a problem turning his back to the defense and then getting his head around and figuring out the coverage. In some ways, Cassel is no different – and arguably better at times – than Cincinnati’s Andy Dalton. He fits a system, and that’s what the Bills are going to do.
The Eagles didn’t just get cap space in the trade. I really like linebacker Kiko Alonso, who the Bills will send to Philadelphia. I think he’s a true three-down linebacker. He can play the run and the pass. He’s big, physical, very athletic, can cover in space and he can blitz. So, he can do just about anything you could ask of him. He’s a really good player, even though he’s coming off an ACL surgery. I think the Eagles will have the NFL’s most athletic inside linebacker combination in a 3-4 defense between him and Mychal Kendricks.
The trade has benefits to both sides. We’ll just have to see how it fits into the Eagles’ bigger plans for this offseason
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Laram
My problem is most of the centers in free agency are over 30Hudson and Wisniewski are the two obvious one’s and they are both around 26 I think.
I would expect those two to go early and I wouldn’t want to get in a bidding war for them, but I prefer them in that order.
Brian De La Puente would be a nice bargain basement sign. He has always graded well when he started and I was impressed with him in New Orleans.
He’s versatile can play center and guard and he’s under 30.
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ParticipantSnead is guy who likes more draft picks. Give him credit for trade downs, good and bad. Nobody gets drafted unless Fisher wants them. Under Fisher, Sneads greatest talent is guessing how the draft will unfold and getting a bonanza of picks for RG3. imo Quick might have been Snead’s guy?
Well, we disagree about that, but,
ignoring the ‘credit’ notion,
what players did the Rams get?
I keep forgetting.w
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ParticipantSnead is guy who likes more draft picks. Give him credit for trade downs, good and bad. Nobody gets drafted unless Fisher wants them. Under Fisher, Sneads greatest talent is guessing how the draft will unfold and getting a bonanza of picks for RG3. imo Quick might have been Snead’s guy?
Well can we really give Snead any credit
for “the bonanza of picks” for the RGme trade?
I mean, i think any sane GM would have been
able to do as well.He didnt screw it up == thats about all
i can say about the RG3 thing.
The Cleveland deal might have been
better, but who knows, btw.w
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ParticipantWell its a great topic. Most of us
have no idea what the ‘standard’ should
be for calling a draft “average”
or “good” or whatever.As that guy emphasizes its a really
tricky subject.If a team makes an All-pro-pick like Robert Quinn
does that balance out the draft if they pick a bunch
of busts after that? Does an Andrew Luck type pick
make the whole draft? How can we even compare getting
a “good starter” to getting a guy like Peyton Manning?
And what does it mean, that a team “figured out” that
Luck was the right pick, but couldnt do anything
in those tricky later Rounds?
And then there’s injuries — what if a guy was a
great pick but he got injured in his fourth game
and is out of the league now? And what if one
team has 12 picks and another team has 5 picks —
how do you compare them?Etc, etc, and so forth. Good topic, but so
many nuances that its impossible to stop
asking questions.I think with any ‘big picture’ algebra, you also
just have to look at each individual draftee and
just talk about it.
Seems like Snisher’s biggest question marks are:
1 The Bobby Wagner non-pick.
2 The Pead Pick
3 The Tavon trade-up
4 Brockers?
5 The No-QB until the 6th Round decisionw
vMarch 4, 2015 at 6:14 pm in reply to: Here's why the Philadelphia Eagles won the big LeSean McCoy trade #19457wv
ParticipantFascinating personnel decisions
by both teams.w
vwv
ParticipantQuinn is elite, not ‘very good.’
Tre Mason is good, not ‘average.
Corey Harkey is good and inspirational, not ‘average’
TJ McDonald is good, not average.
Ogletree is ‘good and sometimes outstanding’, not below average.
Mark Barron is ‘good-in-this-scheme’, not ‘below average’
Eugene Sims is a ‘good back-up’, not ‘below average’Greg Robinson was a ‘confused rookie’; he was not ‘poor.’
Saffold, and Bradford are ‘good-when-they-are-healthy’
Tavon is ‘sui generis’
Just my opinion
The team has talent to be a ten-win team. If Bradford
had stayed healthy, and the Oline had stayed healthy,
they could have been pushing nine or even ten wins.Its not an elite team by any means — its not in Seattle/New England territory,
but the nine or ten win level? Sure.w
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ParticipantFighting Okra ? Really?
I never thought about this before,
but i bet someday, Chris Long and Howie Long
share the same panel on TV.w
vwv
ParticipantI am not at all sure that WV’s reasoning is sound….
We’ll see, won’t we?
They will put together a monster OLine.
They will throw everything at that problem.
It just makes sense in so many ways.
They need to protect Bradford, and they need
to be able to run and use play-action. They
need to withstand the defenses in the NFC West.
They will spin their wheels another year,
if they fail to fix that one unit.
They must know that.I will weep,
if they piddle around
on other positions,
and fail to build a
topnotch OLine.w
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“Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world’s more full of weeping than you can understand.”
― W.B. Yeats, The Collected Poemswv
ParticipantI love open-air stadiums btw. I will be thrilled if
St.Louis builds one and then
blows up the Jones-Dome.One thing, St. Louis will not blow up the Jones-Dome. The estimates are that the Dome will make more without the Rams than they currently make with the Rams. The Dome is a very valuable property for conventions, etc.
Well thats what domes are for — conventions.
Football should be played outdoors.
On real grass.w
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=12×18+Rams+Vikings+1969+PLAYOFF+Gabriel+Photo+Poster
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ParticipantInteresting numbers to think about when anyone from LA throws out the “St. Louis fans don’t support football!” insult.
Los Angeles Rams
Year Record Avg Att
1984 (10-6) 54,455 (playoffs)
1985 (11-5) 56,242 (playoffs)
1986 (10-6) 59,285 (playoffs)
1987 (6-9) 47,356
1988 (10-6) 54,469 (playoffs)
1989 (11-5) 58,846 (playoffs)
1990 (5-11) 59,920
1991 (3-13) 51,586
1992 (6-10) 47,811
1993 (5-11) 45,401
1994 (4-12) 43,312
10 Yr Avg 52,608St. Louis Rams
Year Record Avg Att
2004 (8-8) 66,035
2005 (6-10) 65,585
2006 (8-8) 65,326
2007 (3-13) 64,294
2008 (2-14) 59,980
2009 (1-15) 55,237
2010 (7-9) 52,922
2011 (2-14) 56,394
2012 (7-8-1) 56,703
2013 (7-9) 56,957
2014 (6-10) 57,018
10 Yr Avg 59,677That’s 7.36 wins per year for LA vs. 5.18 wins per year for STL. Attendance per win: 114,309 in LA, 184,266 in STL.
Not bad for a region with 2.8 million people!
Note: This is a post from the HERD board by courtland1.
Well, my own personal complaint about St.Louis is not about attendance numbers exactly.
Its about this —
I have NEVER seen another stadium that was filled
with so many Opponent-Fans as often as has been the case in St.Louis.
I mean there have been times were its been
downright embarrassing.I love open-air stadiums btw. I will be thrilled if
St.Louis builds one and then
blows up the Jones-Dome.
The ‘elements’ should play a part
in Football. This isn’t badminton.w
vwv
ParticipantI couldn’t care less about that kind of thing myself.
Cause to me, the CIA “itself” is a murderous, secret, lowdown,
evil, monstrous organization-from-hell. So, i start
from ‘that’ premise…so, to me, every chief of the CIA
has been a criminal. I could go on…Have a nice day 🙂
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