I paraphrased it below. Its tricky alright. But its tough to write good laws.

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Pass is complete, if player is inbounds and:

A. Secures ball in hands or arms before ball hits ground, and

B. Touches ground inbounds with two feet or any part of body other than hands, and

C. Maintains control of ball after a and b have been fulfilled, UNTIL he
has the ball long enough to clearly become a runner, — ie,
when his second foot is on ground,
he is capable of avoiding or warding off impending contact of opponent,
tucking ball away,
turning up field,
or taking additional steps

IF player has control of ball, a slight movement of ball will not be considered loss of possession

If player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or body part to ground, it is not a catch

Fwiw, as a sidebar, some folks think dallas has a better-than-most
kinda police force:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/01/12/what-dallass-historically-low-murder-rate-can-teach-us-about-policing/

ps – i thot this was an inter esting paragraph:

“… The massive crime drop we’ve seen across the country since the mid-1990s occurred in places that both did and didn’t engage in mass incarceration, did and didn’t engage in “broken windows”-style policing, did and didn’t commit to real community-oriented policing, did and didn’t use a widespread stop-and-frisk policy, and so on. It’s quite possible that the drop had nothing to do policing strategy at all and instead was the product of rising standards of living, an aging population, or even environmental factors like a decrease in childhood exposure to lead.”
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Billy_T wrote:

Good questions, WV.

Personally, I don’t think our focus should be so much on trying to change the way people view race — though that’s important — but instead on preventing its effects. Preventing the application of racist beliefs in society…

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Yeah, i just wonder what ‘prevention’ would look like. Ya know.

It would require nurturing ‘critical thinking’. How does a society do that?

It would require meeting citizens basic needs so that have time/energy/safety in order to have the luxury of ‘thinking critically’. How does a society accomplish that?

…i suppose amerika has made a ton of progress with race/jingoism/superstition.
But with the pace of corporate-destruction increasing, and the pace of environmental degradation increasing….how much more time do we have to be so…ignorant?

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They’ll be back up soon, I’m sure.

The Herd Board is too big to fail 🙂

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bnw wrote:

Reminds me of the junk bonds equity stripping in the ’80s. This is what you get when politicians are easily bought.

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Q: Who’s buying the politicians?

A: Private Sector.

So the problem is both, right? My problem with mainstream Republicans
is they only see half the problem.

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Damn. Well, i suppose if a board is gonna blow up this is the best time of year for a meltdown. Not much goin on.

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JamesJM
7/6/2016 10pm Update

The situation is not good.

The server is back up and running but all data is gone, perhaps forever. Two SSD Drives, against all odds, failed… the main SSD Drive and our backup SSD Drive.

If you try to access the site you’ll get a 404 error.. which means it’s running again but there is no data as yet. Troy is working to get an “Under Construction” page up to notify everyone about the problem. This blog isn’t reaching everyone and in fact is reaching a very, VERY small percentage of Herd Members.

Again… please pass along this information to any Herd Members you can reach.
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Agamemnon wrote:

… You have to have the star players and you have to have good cheap talent available to make it work.

I will contend that the real secret to maintaining a good roster is good drafting..

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Well true. but “good drafting” and the ability to figure out who
is going to be “good” cheap talent,
aint easy apparently.

And we’ll see how long Seattle can continue to do it. A couple of years from now, we may be reading articles about how Seattle lost its magic touch. Ya know.

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I dont think they’ve had six ‘great’ ones.

DV counts as one.

Maybe someone from the 50’s teams. Thats before my time though.

They’ve had some ‘good to very good’ ones, of course.
George Allen comes to mind. Maybe J. Robinson. Knox was ‘good’.
Those three built some fine defenses. Kinda one-dimensional on offense for most of their years. Course Robinson brought in Zampese and the offense changed.

It would not surprise me at all if Fisher ends up being considered in the “good to very good” range. Thing is, that means he wont have won a Ring.

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nittany ram wrote:

.. If you moved through time on one of these worlds everything would be the same no matter how far back or how far forward in time you traveled. So don’t expect anyone to come along with any new fangled ideas about democracy or the redistribution of wealth and power.

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Well, my complaint stands. Capitalist-Fantasy-writers write stories
about feudalism-worship and monarchy-worship. And they dont have to.
They just do.

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bnw wrote:

Trump has been out front in promoting women and minorities yet he’s constantly called a racist. Thats why.

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OK, i get where you are coming from. And fwiw, I am not one of the ones banging the “trump is a racist” drum. I suspect he is much more of a “nationalist” than a racist. But then Nationalism is as loathsome to me as racism.

I think we will see all kinds of stories about Trump NOT being a racist because he hired a new PR guy a coupla weeks ago, and his new handlers are trying to repackage him as ‘kinder and gentler’ and more sensitive. Its typical political crappolla, and it may or may not work.

I’d like to see Trump judged solely on his POLICIES btw. I dont get into the “hes a racist” and “he’s a sexist” stuff. I do think there’s “something” there, but I think he’s a mixed bag on race/sex stuff.

I think you will agree, Trumps biggest problem is to expand outside his “white male” base. He’s gonna have to convince some women and minorities he’s not a sexist/racist.

What do you think of Trumps recent conversion to evangelical-jesus-luv ? Surely, you dont buy into that ?

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bnw wrote:

Now now lets just drag that timeline forward 100 years since the democrats were flagrantly racist in the 1950s too. Sen. Byrd wasn’t alone in your state.

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Absolutely. The Duplicat Party and Replicant Party were both full
of racists.

I can focus on both. Why do you only focus on half of the problem?

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Zooey wrote:

Confirmation Bias…. It isn’t a debate..

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Well….right. Not a debate. So, in my case, I adopt different posting styles for different situations.

And it raises posting-questions…if its not a ‘debate’ what is it? And what can it be? Whats the best we can hope for on a pol-message-board, and how do we get there? Etc, and so forth.

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“You have come to the shore. There are no instructions.”
Denise Levertov

Zooey wrote:

It is easy to imagine, given what we know about Dick Cheney and other White House operatives applying thumb screws across the street to get what they wanted when they fabricated reasons for the Iraq War. Applying pressure is what these guys do. The Clintons didn’t get where they are without some arm-twisting along the way.

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Well, the FBI has a long long history of acting in utterly political ways,
because of political pressure. I recently listened to an old audio-book in my car
by Bob Woodward (whom i cant stand). It was his book about deep-throat, who was
the guy who was 2nd in command at the FBI during the Nixon/Watergate years.
(Deep throat far from being a freedom-of-the-press soldier was a great admirer of J.Edgar Hoover, btw) Anyway, Woodward, the former Navy guy, and former Republican was hardly an FBI-basher, but he made it very clear the organization was a matrix of contested ground between the “political” vs “professional”

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I watched the last few episodes of the latest season of GOT.

I must say, it was purty-damn-good.

In the second-to-last show, that battle scene was
claustrophobic. The film-makers did a fine job of making the viewer
feel squished and squashed and hopeless.

I also thought the special effects involving the dragons in the last
episode were really impressive.

My only complaint (which i made to a fantasy-loving-friend of mine, and I also made the complaint about Star Wars…)
is more ‘political’ than anything else. I wish George Martin (or substitute any fantasy writer, film-maker) would have added a faction, or tribe, or kingdom, or family that stood for democratic-socialism. Ya know. I mean all that “Yay for the good King” and “Yay for the bad King” stuff makes me grit my teeth every time.
I’ve said all this before, blah blah blah…

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