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wvParticipantWell he and Long were the leaders and spokes-models of….some of the worst Ram teams in history.
They were both solid players when healthy. Seemed like good people. Didnt believe in mermaids.
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vwvParticipantThe difference is I believed when he was hired that Elway was qualified for that role.
Manning? Nothing about him tells me HE is.
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He has a high forehead.
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vwvParticipantWell good to know.. He’s just an ordinary single-murderer.
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vwvParticipantCole said: “The use of chemical weapons by the Syrian Army in Idlib is an atrocity..”
But that has not been proven. Where is the clear and convincing evidence that the Syrian Army used chemical weapons?
The Russians and Assad say they didnt do it. The US says Assad did it. Where’s the proof?
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vwvParticipantI have no problem with that approach, zn. But i dont just ‘dismiss’ any of those voices in those two links. They raise questions for me. I dont adopt their views but they do raise questions.
The second link was not one involving Hitchens and Urban. It was more interesting, I thought.
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vOf course I dismiss them!
They repeat the Russian take on this with nothing on their side but smarmy innuendo.
They do not genuinely cover the range of views and evidence.
Back when, I reacted the same way to rightie claims that Hussein was in league with al qaeda.
Just don’t take that personally. It’s just what my instincts see in all this.
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I dont take it personally my old friend. Dont ever worry about that.But i dont know why you would dimiss somethin just because the Russians agree with it. Sometimes the Russians are right.
I dont mind innuendo. Because i dont have to accept it. I can just file it away, and explore further and mull it over. A lot of these things that you ‘dismiss’, i ‘file away’. I dont agree or disagree with them. Just food for thought, to me.
Did you look at the second link? No, you didnt did you 🙂
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vwvParticipantWell, i prettymuch like all the boards.
I just dont like posters.
Posters ruin boards.
Thats why i hate the internet. Its full of posters.
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vwvParticipantI have no problem with that approach, zn. But i dont just ‘dismiss’ any of those voices in those two links. They raise questions for me. I dont adopt their views but they do raise questions.
The second link was not one involving Hitchens and Urban. It was more interesting, I thought.
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April 14, 2017 at 8:09 am in reply to: Trump allows coal plants to dump arsenic and mercury into the waterways #67398wvParticipantCoal jobs aren’t coming back. The coal industry has seen to that all by itself when it started automating everything. All Trump is doing is allowing them to maximize profits while screwing us out of clean water.
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Well if you want clean water, go buy it in the store like the rest of us.
I buy that Icelandic water that comes in the cool plastic bottle.w
vwvParticipantattractive lives matter
wvParticipantnepotism
wvParticipant“But while we keep looking for his hidden agenda, it’s our growing addiction to the spectacle of his car-wreck presidency that is the real threat. He is already making idiots and accomplices of us all, bringing out the worst in each of us, making us dumber just by watching. Even if Trump never learns to govern, after four years of this we will forget what civilization ever looked like – and it will be programming, not policy, that will have changed the world.”
That is a scary conclusion, and one I can’t disagree with.
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Yeah, its a nightmare. But Trump is just a character in the nightmare story.
The Nightmare itself is the system that spawned him, his Republican buddies, all those NeoLibs and DNC types, the Corporations, the Lobbies, the ‘education’ systems, the media, and the propogandized-ignorant-voters.Wonder who will be the next president of this nightmare?
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vwvParticipantApril 13, 2017 at 10:33 pm in reply to: Trump allows coal plants to dump arsenic and mercury into the waterways #67380wvParticipantDo you ever feel like you are getting PTSD just
from reading the headlines these days.w
vwvParticipantScott Ritter: Dereliction of Duty
link:http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/dereliction_of_duty_redux_20170412“….Such an investigation will never take place, for several reasons. First, the U.S. has zero intelligence that would sustain its allegation that Syria mounted an attack on Khan Shaykhun using sarin nerve agent from the Shayrat airfield. The American Fourth Estate should be demanding that the Trump administration back up its claims with something substantive, including annotated imagery showing where in Shayrat the sarin was stored, mixed and loaded into munitions—which should be very easy to do, since these areas were specifically designated not to be targeted in the first place.
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But this is an image that does not exist, and indeed cannot exist, since the U.S. intelligence community has absolutely no information about any such activity at Shayrat. This reality not only exposes the Trump administration’s case against Syria as an absolute lie. It also exonerates Russia from the Trump administration’s charge that Moscow was complicit in the attack, given the presence of Russian personnel at Shayrat at the time….”wvParticipantThe ‘stupid to evil’ spectrum. I like it. Reminds me of the Rams offense, for some reason.
“….One reporter tasked with covering the appointments says the staffing issue comes down to the same question we always have about Trump: Is this a scheme to destroy government, or cluelessness? “It’s just so hard to tell,” he says, “where this falls on the stupid-to-evil spectrum.”
wvParticipantThis is one thing thats different about Trump. He just doesnt CARE about a lot of important stuff. And he does care about a lot of personal-ridiculous stuff.
“…Just a month or so into Trump’s administration, one of the central promises of his campaign – the killing off of the Affordable Care Act – is in trouble. Trump’s inability to hold coalitions together, or really do much of anything beyond generate TV ratings, is already showing. But just as it was last year when the punditocracy told him he’d made himself unelectable, Trump’s ace in the hole may be that he doesn’t care. His history is that when the playing field doesn’t work for him, he moves it. The Framers may have designed the government to withstand bouts of popular madness, but there are no checks and balances against the power of celebrity. A president who is both a tyrant and disinterested in governance would have blown their minds.
wvParticipantI think this is an important, albeit obvious point:
“Trump has made being the voice of reason politically dangerous.”
What does that say about America’s voters ?
And how did ‘we’ become so ignorant.
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vwvParticipantThe man is brilliant. Reading his prose is a skip through butterflies in field of daisies.
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“….president like Trump can have an impact even if he never manages to get a single law passed, simply by unleashing stupidity as a revolutionary force
wvParticipantLoL, omg, Taibbi is good. I could post a dozen of these:
“…DeVos arrives dressed in a blazer of bright purple. (Historians will note this is the same color of the robes worn by Incitatus, the horse Caligula used to troll the Senate.) Over the next three and a half hours, she will prove to be the worst witness since William Jennings Bryan sent himself to the stand in the Scopes Monkey Trial.
wvParticipant“….The early response of the Democratic leadership to Trump’s picks was a shocking strategy of partial accommodation and “picking their battles.”
“I call it the law of conservation of no’s,” says Jeff Hauser of the Revolving Door Project, which monitors federal appointments. “The Democrats felt they could only say no to Trump so many times, that they had to hoard their political capital for one or two battles.”
wvParticipant“for Trump and his inner circle to name Perry to any Cabinet post at all felt like trolling, like a football team wrapping the mascot in packing tape and mailing him to Canada. But to send someone you’re on record calling an idiot to run the nation’s nuclear arsenal, that doesn’t fit easily in any bucket: mischief, evil, incompetence – it’s even a little extreme for nihilism.
Trump’s lead adviser, the fast-talking Breitbart Svengali Steve Bannon, would ultimately explain the thinking behind Trump’s appointments in front of the CPAC audience. “If you look at these Cabinet appointees, they were selected for a reason,” he said. The mysterious figure described that reason as the “deconstruction of the administrative state.”…..
April 11, 2017 at 10:36 pm in reply to: Football Outsiders says Rams were healthiest team in 2016 #67302wvParticipantPlease.
There are reasons why Hitler became a murderous despot that were outside of his control too.
Yet neither deserve our pity nor our forgiveness.
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Whoa now. Lets not go equating Zooey to Hitler.
Hitler never betrayed his own fanbase and turned into a 49er fan.
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vwvParticipantapparently this dr. dao is quite the feller.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/11/david-dao-doctor-dragged-off-united-flight-was-con/
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Well the Times can dredge up all the mud they want, but the Doc
is about to be a very rich man.w
vwvParticipantmedia coverage of Syria strike
Jeremy Scahill appeared on CNN’s “Reliable Sources” on Sunday and skewered the media’s “atrocious” coverage of the Syria missile attack. The founding editor of The Intercept called out journalist Fareed Zakaria in particular.
“You know, Fareed Zakaria—if that guy could have sex with this cruise missile attack, I think he would do it,” Scahill said.
During the interview with “Reliable Sources” host Brian Stelter, Scahill added that CNN “needs to immediately withdraw all retired generals and colonels from its airwaves” because many of them may profit “in the private sector from these wars.”
link:http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/jeremy_scahill_slams_atrocious_media_coverage_of_syria_20170410
wvParticipantI think he should have to pay for the damage he did
by beligerently smashing his face into the armrest.w
vApril 11, 2017 at 3:13 pm in reply to: Football Outsiders says Rams were healthiest team in 2016 #67284wvParticipantLast year was a complete Offensive Cluster-Fuck.
Oline was abysmal.
Gurley was out to lunch.
A rookie-confused-Air-Raid-QB.
Mediocre weapons, TE’s, WRs.
And apparently a junior high offensive scheme, coaching.But they were healthy.
Theres REASONS that zooey became a 49er fan.
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vwvParticipantThis is the question that has been nagging me.
Why would Assad do this? And if he was going to do it, wouldn’t he have done a better job of it? I mean…despite the horrific results, it was a pretty crappy job, affecting a relatively small number of people by war standards, and targeting people whose death is to nobody’s benefit. The cost/benefit of this just doesn’t add up to me unless it is a PR move, and as a PR move, it isn’t Assad who benefits from it.
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Yeah, that question is being asked all over the world.Makes zero sense that Assad would do what Trump is saying he did.
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One man’s analysis:http://thesaker.is/a-multi-level-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missile-attack-on-syria-and-its-consequences/The latest US cruise missile attack on the Syrian airbase is an extremely important event in so many ways that it is important to examine it in some detail. I will try to do this today with the hope to be able to shed some light on a rather bizarre attack which will nevertheless have profound consequences. But first, let’s begin by looking at what actually happened.
The pretext:
I don’t think that anybody seriously believes that Assad or anybody else in the Syrian government really ordered a chemical weapons attack on anybody. To believe that it would require you to find the following sequence logical: first, Assad pretty much wins the war against Daesh which is in full retreat. Then, the US declares that overthrowing Assad is not a priority anymore (up to here this is all factual and true). Then, Assad decides to use weapons he does not have. He decides to bomb a location with no military value, but with lots of kids and cameras. Then, when the Russians demand a full investigation, the Americans strike as fast as they can before this idea gets any support. And now the Americans are probing a possible Russian role in this so-called attack. Frankly, if you believe any of that, you should immediately stop reading and go back to watching TV. For the rest of us, there are three options:
a classical US-executed false flag
a Syrian strike on a location which happened to be storing some kind of gas, possibly chlorine, but most definitely not sarin. This option requires you to believe in coincidences. I don’t. Unless,
the US fed bad intelligence to the Syrians and got them to bomb a location where the US knew that toxic gas was stored.What is evident is that…see link
wvParticipantI am skeptical that GRob can play RT at a high level.
I’m concerned he’s gonna get Goff killed at some point.
Why not keep Hav at RT and put GRob at guard?
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vwvParticipantThe Syrian Air Force hit the target with conventional weapons. All involved expected to see a massive secondary explosion. That did not happen. Instead, smoke, chemical smoke, began billowing from the site. It turns out that the Islamic rebels used that site to store chemicals, not sarin, that were deadly. The chemicals included organic phosphates and chlorine and they followed the wind and killed civilians.
There is good reason to believe that story is bs.
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It would not surprise me if it were BS. Would not surprise me if it were true.I’m still in the info gathering stage. Or at least trying to gather info.
Whats the biggest reason to think its BS?
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