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wvParticipantI have a lot of respect for Max Blumenthal.
August 18, 2017 at 6:53 am in reply to: hoax: Anonymous didn't take over neo-nazi site Daily Stormer #72760
wvParticipantArnold:
wvParticipantSo yer sayin Martin Sheen got it wrong?
Yes. That is what I am saying.
And therefore, I am in favor of tearing down all those old statues of Martin Sheen.
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Ok, but can we at least leave the Horse on the pedestal? Surely the horse wasn’t a racist. What was his name?…Pegasus? Trigger? Mr. Ed?
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wvParticipantWhat kind of WR is Sammy, btw? He’s not like Holt or Ike or AZ or Proehl is he.
Is he a speed guy, a power guy, a precise-route-guy, a leaper, a vegetarian outlaw, a breaker of chains and mother of footballs….? Who does he compare to?
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wvParticipantSo yer sayin Martin Sheen got it wrong?
wvParticipantIMO, we were the bad guys in Korea — with, of course, individual exceptions. We never should have gone. We escalated the war beyond all reason. And because of it, 2-4 million Korean civilians died. And we sided with a fascist thug dictator in the South. He had already slaughtered innocent civilians prior to our invasion, and we looked the other way when he did more of the same.
Not saying the North were the “good guys” either. But we definitely weren’t in the aggregate, from the standpoint of the powers that be. And the government in the South definitely wasn’t.
There’s a pattern, as mentioned in the article. We try our best to crush anyone who dares say no to capitalism, destroy their economy, embargo them, isolate them, and then when they have problems due to OUR destructive policies, we shout “See!! Their system can never work!! They’re brutal dictators and oppress their people!!”
Um, if we had actually lent them a helping hand instead of trying to crush them, it’s a good bet they wouldn’t have had to turn inward and go all in for “law and order,” etc.
That’s what being under siege does to a country. Just look at the way the West changed their laws during WWI and WWII. Pretty much every country in Europe, if they weren’t already taken over by the Germans, imposed their own oppressive rule. Again, that’s what being under siege does to nations.
We blew a once in a century chance when we didn’t take the peace dividend after WWII. We really could have been an agent for good instead of ill all over the globe and here. Just no more wars. No more coups. No more military proliferation and arms proliferation. Invest in humans and the planet. This shit isn’t rocket science!
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The mainstream-american narrative is that North Korea ‘started’ the war by invading the South.
Is that more or less true, or is there much more to it than that? Are there other ‘legitimate’ narratives?
Of course even if North Korea started it, that doesnt justify recklessly killing a gazillion civilians. Or does it?
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wvParticipant“….The bombing was long, leisurely and merciless, even by the assessment of America’s own leaders. “Over a period of three years or so, we killed off — what — 20 percent of the population,” Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, told the Office of Air Force History in 1984. Dean Rusk, a supporter of the war and later secretary of state, said the United States bombed “everything that moved in North Korea, every brick standing on top of another.” After running low on urban targets, U.S. bombers destroyed hydroelectric and irrigation dams in the later stages of the war, flooding farmland and destroying crops.
Although the ferocity of the bombing was criticized as racist and unjustified elsewhere in the world, it was never a big story back home. U.S. press coverage of the air war focused, instead, on “MiG alley,” a narrow patch of North Korea near the Chinese border. There, in the world’s first jet-powered aerial war, American fighter pilots competed against each other to shoot down five or more Soviet-made fighters and become “aces.” War reporters rarely mentioned civilian casualties from U.S. carpet-bombing. It is perhaps the most forgotten part of a forgotten war.
The Kims, though, have kept memories of the war and the bombing terrifyingly fresh. North Korean state media dress up the historical record in a Big Lie, claiming that Americans and South Korea sneakily started the Korean War and that Kim Il Sung brilliantly won it against overwhelming odds. (The Chinese don’t get much credit for fighting the United States to a draw.) State media warn that, sooner or later, the Americans will strike again.
“It is still the 1950s in North Korea and the conflict with South Korea and the United States is still going on,” says Kathryn Weathersby, a scholar of the Korean War. “People in the North feel backed into a corner and threatened.”There is real value in understanding this paranoid mind-set. It puts the calculated belligerence of the Kim family into context. It also undermines the notion that North Korea is merely a nut-case state.
Since World War II, the United States has engaged in an almost unbroken chain of major and minor wars in distant and poorly understood countries. Yet for a meddlesome superpower that claims the democratic high ground, it can sometimes be shockingly incurious and self-absorbed. In the case of the bombing of North Korea, its people never really became conscious of a major war crime committed in their name.
Paying attention in a democracy is a moral obligation. It is also a way to avoid repeating immoral mistakes.
And if North Korea ever does change, if the Kim family were overthrown or were to voluntarily loosen its chokehold on information, a U.S. apology for the bombing could help dispel 65 years of hate.”
wvParticipant…i know nothing about the Korean War, really. But that article up there is worth skimming if you too, know nothing. I didnt know the US totally completely and utterly bombed the shit out of the North. They remember that. Americans dont.
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wvParticipantPeter Dinklage urges ‘Game of Thrones’ fans to stop buying direwolf-lookalike Huskies
Dinklage, a vegetarian, stressed the seriousness of pet selection. “Please, please, if you’re going to bring a dog into your family, make sure that you’re prepared for such a tremendous responsibility and remember to always, ALWAYS, adopt from a shelter,” he said.
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Well, having lived with two Alaskan Malamutes, and having met many-a-husky in my time, i can say that most of the Northern Breeds are ‘not for everyone’. Definitely not like Golden Retrievers or Labs.
I would advise people not to get pure-bred dragons either. Go to a shelter.
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wvParticipanteasily my favorite move of the offseason. best wr since torry holt or the next danario alexander?
i guess we’ll find out…
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Danario Alexander? Say those words…Danario…Alexander….and what happens?
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wvParticipantThey need to get Pearl Mackie back on as a companion for Dr. Who. She was great this past season. Just saying.
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Well it seems to me John Snow should use the Daleks against the white walkers.
Just sayin.
Thats what I would do.
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wvParticipantJoe Hill, Debs, Oklahoma revolt, and many others died, were jailed, or both “for the social cause”
I’d be careful posting these links, because “they” might be coming for you buddy…..
damn, I didn’t realize this link was a 6 hour investment……..
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August 16, 2017 at 3:20 pm in reply to: WV, did you see the Nation article by Patrick Lawrence? #72650
wvParticipantOn your point number two:
2) I dont really give a shit if it was a leak or a hack — I’m WAAAAAY more interested in the SUBSTANCE OF THE EMAILS.
Ie, what they show about the amerikan corporotacracy. To ‘me’ the important story is about WHAT THE EMAILS SHOW, and not how the emails got published. The way i see it, the DEMS (brilliantly) were able to distract the public from the substance of the emails with their “Russians did it!” strategy.Were they really brilliant, though? Cuz no other subject was in the media as much as her emails. They dominated, even more so than Trump’s Hollywood tapes. And the coverage of those emails was very negative. I don’t think the Dems succeeded in distracting the country at all.
In fact, I think the email scandal was a big part of her downfall. I also don’t think they showed the Dems being anything more than your run of the mill political party. The actual emails. I found nothing particularly, uniquely awful about them, though the attempts by the GOP to exaggerate their substance, via distortion and paraphrase, made them sound like the worst thing evah. To me, they were business as usual, and I would be shocked if email chains from the GOP weren’t at least as bad.
No defense of the Dems. Or the GOP. I detest both parties and honestly wish they’d go away. I don’t see either as legitimate, as we’ve discussed before. Chomsky’s concept of power needing to justify itself. They haven’t. Quite the opposite. The duopoly has proven it’s incapable of governing in a way that represents all of us. I agree with Thomas Frank that the Dems basically are all in for the richest 10%, at their best, and the GOP for the richest 1%.
So, yeah, both parties are disgusting, with a long, long history of being disgusting. Which is why I’m kind of baffled at the anger regarding those emails. I also don’t want wikileaks choosing sides like it did. If they want to shine a light on our political system, point it on both parties or stay out of it. It paints a false picture to do just one, IMO. Even worse, to point it on our politics and not the folks who pull the strings: the plutocratic class.
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Well i tend to agree that Assange ‘chose sides’. He says he didnt. He says he just didnt have any bad stuff on Trump. Which i find hard to believe 🙂
Even when he called Hillary vs Trump a choice between Cholera and Gonorrhea, it seems to me Cholera is worse 🙂As far as you not finding anything surprising in the emails — i wouldnt expect YOU to find anything surprising in them. I didnt either. Informed, critical-thinking leftists wouldnt find anything surprising. But there aint many of us, BT. If there WERE, Bernie woulda won the primary and Jill woulda won the general election.
But the emails could have been a powerful awakening-tool regarding the masses. And i dont agree that the ‘liberal’-MSM did much to explain what was in them. The rightwing-MSM of course spent a lot of time on them, but no rightwinger was gonna vote for Hillary anyway.
All in all, i see the Russia story as a Dem/Dem-MSM tactic to distract people from inequality and class issues, and to beat the Repugnants in the next election. Thats all i see. More or less. I know you and zn disagree strongly. Fair enough. No big thing.
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wvParticipantThe usual Trump stuff. Surreal as per usual. Words fail.
…oh and btw, fwiw, notice how the headline is anti-russian. They ‘coulda’ said CIA in that headline — naturally they went with KGB…ok, ok, i’ll shut up…
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KGB:https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/08/15/scott-pruitt-turning-epa-kgb
Scott Pruitt Is Turning the EPA into the KGB
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Alex FormuzisScott Pruitt, polluters’ puppet and head of the Environmental Protection Agency, knows most Americans are strongly opposed to his anti-public health, anti-kids, anti-science agenda. That’s why he does all he can to hide it.
A devastating report in The New York Times details the extraordinary and unprecedented steps Pruitt is taking to keep secret his efforts to roll back decades of progress on drinking water and air quality, toxic chemicals in consumer products, and environmental justice. Among the revelations uncovered by reporters Coral Davenport and Eric Lipton:
According to current EPA employees, when summoned to meetings with Administrator Pruitt, staff must “have an escort to gain entrance” to his office, are “told to leave behind their cellphones” and “are sometimes told not to take notes.”
Wherever he goes, “even at E.P.A. headquarters,” Pruitt is “accompanied by armed guards, the first head of the agency to ever request round-the-clock security.”
In an apparent effort to block any trail of communications with industry officials that could be captured in a Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA, request, Pruitt “often makes important phone calls from other offices rather than use the phone in his office.”The inescapable conclusion, says David Roberts of Vox, is that Pruitt’s stealth is “the only approach possible to advance an agenda that is unpopular and intellectually indefensible.”
The Times reports that in the last two months, the EPA “has received more than 2,000 Freedom of Information requests, many of them focused on Mr. Pruitt, asking for every possible record related to his tenure, including text messages, telephone records and even his web browsing history.”
EWG and our colleagues at American Oversight are among the public interest groups that have filed many of the FOIAs seeking details about Pruitt’s communications with polluters.
In April, EWG and American Oversight filed a FOIA with the EPA and the Department of Agriculture, demanding all communications between agency officials, pesticide manufacturers, and outside groups that have advocated for the continued use of chlorpyrifos – a neurotoxic pesticide known to cause brain damage in children – on food crops. This came in response to Pruitt’s alarming decision to summarily reverse a scheduled ban of the pesticide that was set into motion by the Obama administration. In June, EWG and American Oversight filed a lawsuit against Pruitt and the EPA for failing to produce those records….see link…
August 16, 2017 at 1:57 pm in reply to: car drives into counter-protestors in charlottesville #72639
wvParticipantWell, I would not ‘dismiss’ the anti-statue protests. Or the anti-confed-flag protests. But I am concerned that the leftist movements or whatever we wanna call them, are spending a lot of time on symbolic stuff (because its easier) rather than on ‘structural’ stuff (cause its harder to do and harder to understand).
But i would definitely not tell an activist ‘dont’ protest about statues or whatever. Inside my head, i would be shaking my head though.
Essentially, i am saying the left is in a sad state. I dont think enough americans ‘get it’. The big picture, ie. I’m saying there has been a great failure. A failure of the left to educate and organize. Not enough leftists ‘get’ the corporotacracy. They ‘get’ the statue-issues.
Im not ‘blaming’ people for this state of affairs. The people are a reflection of the power of the corporotacracy.
I’m all for alliances. Maybe things will get better. Bernie’s popularity is indeed a sign of hope. The power of the DNC and the REP Party is a sign that hope is…a long shot. We shall bash on relentlessy though, anyway, wont we 🙂
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August 16, 2017 at 1:33 pm in reply to: WV, did you see the Nation article by Patrick Lawrence? #72637
wvParticipantI cant read it BT, because the Nation sez I’ve read 3 articles and thats all they will allow me to read without…doin somethin.
My own view as ive said though iz still:
1) I think the DNC emails were leaked from a DNC insider and given to Assange. I dont think any Russian involvement has been demonstrated. I dont think there was a hack. I’m always open to new evidence though.
2) I dont really give a shit if it was a leak or a hack — I’m WAAAAAY more interested in the SUBSTANCE OF THE EMAILS.
Ie, what they show about the amerikan corporotacracy. To ‘me’ the important story is about WHAT THE EMAILS SHOW, and not how the emails got published. The way i see it, the DEMS (brilliantly) were able to distract the public from the substance of the emails with their “Russians did it!” strategy.As for me, I am GLAD they were ‘stolen’. Fuck the Dems. I’m glad wikileaks published them. I think Amerika has become a deep-state with too many secrets. We cant even come CLOSE to bein a democracy with so many secrets and secret-spy-agencies running things. The Dems and Reps are CRIMINAL organizations in my view. Corporate-Gangs. Biosphere-destroyers. I could go on. And on. And on…with my rant… 🙂
3) Yes, i agree, lots of foreign powers try to influence elections. I have no doubt russia is ONE of those foreign powers that try to influence American phoney-elections. (How can we even call them elections anymore?) I would be shocked if they were the only foreign power to do so. Israel has its own methods for influencing American elections — Money. Apparently Israel’s way is nice and ‘legal’ though. Etc, and so forth.
4) Of the corporate-gangs in the world I think russia is less harmful than amerika. That has nothing to do with the hacking issue, I’m just tossing it out there. I’m hopeless, i know. i have no tolerance for the corporotacracy anymore 🙂
5) Sammy Watkins in horns makes me very happy.
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vAugust 16, 2017 at 10:02 am in reply to: car drives into counter-protestors in charlottesville #72629
wvParticipantTrump has a point about the statues. The statue issue is interesting to me. I ‘hope’ people are not focusing on statues. I ‘hope’ they are focusing on drug laws, health care, inequality-POLICIES, education, etc.
Knocking down statues is easy though. Maybe its the only thing people feel they can do.
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link:http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/trump-says-there-were-very-fine-people-on-both-sides-in-charlottesville/Trump Says There Were “Very Fine People on Both Sides” in Charlottesville
At a press conference, the president refused to blame the violence on white nationalists and Nazis.….“What about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, alt-right?” Trump also remarked. “Do they have any semblance of guilt?”
The president appeared to criticize the movement to remove Confederate statues—wondering aloud how far proponents of the removals would go. “Was George Washington a slave owner?” he asked. “Are we going to take down statues to George Washington? What about Thomas Jefferson?”
Well, it’s not so easy in the South. Public sector workers received death threats when word went out they were going to remove statues in Louisiana, and they had to do so at night, with snipers on tops of buildings to protect them.
And in some Southern states, GOP legislators have made it illegal to remove them. They actually went out of their way to write laws saying you couldn’t.
I was cheered to hear that Baltimore got rid of their four monuments last night and into this morning. Even in Blue State Maryland, it appeared they had to work at night, too.
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Well i just mean knocking down a statue doesn’t change things. Its symbolic and maybe it feels good, but it doesnt do anything to change the policies of corporate-capitalism. Ya know.
I wont go as far as calling it a ‘distraction’ but its close.
And anyway, even at the symbolic level i think it would be way better to LEAVE the statue and build another plaque or something next to it, that has some accurate information about the ‘hero’ in question. Educate.
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wvParticipantTrump has a point about the statues. The statue issue is interesting to me. I ‘hope’ people are not focusing on statues. I ‘hope’ they are focusing on drug laws, health care, inequality-POLICIES, education, etc.
Knocking down statues is easy though. Maybe its the only thing people feel they can do.
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At a press conference, the president refused to blame the violence on white nationalists and Nazis.….“What about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, alt-right?” Trump also remarked. “Do they have any semblance of guilt?”
The president appeared to criticize the movement to remove Confederate statues—wondering aloud how far proponents of the removals would go. “Was George Washington a slave owner?” he asked. “Are we going to take down statues to George Washington? What about Thomas Jefferson?”
August 15, 2017 at 6:41 pm in reply to: car drives into counter-protestors in charlottesville #72584
wvParticipantI suppose, if there is any kind of ‘positive’ to all this violent-racism,
its that at least its more in the open now.Maybe it will be easier for people to understand what minorities
already know.Thats all i got.
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vAugust 15, 2017 at 2:08 pm in reply to: car drives into counter-protestors in charlottesville #72573
wvParticipantLee Camp of redacted tonight, witnessed the car-murder:
August 15, 2017 at 1:03 pm in reply to: car drives into counter-protestors in charlottesville #72569
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wvParticipantI have to admit, I have no patience for 9/11 conspiracy theories.
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I know that 🙂
I’m curious whether Mack has any thots. At one time he was skeptical of the official version. Then he was skeptical of the unofficial versions. I’m wondering where he’s at now.
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wvParticipantThe dragon being ok didn’t bother me. The wound was superficial.
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Oh is that you diagnosis, Mr Dragon Doctor?
AND — why wouldnt the spears have poison on the tips? Surely Ceirci would have thought of that.
And another thing — i think they are ruining the Tyrian character. I thought the writing for his big meeting with Jamie was really lame. Dinklage is a great actor and you could SEE him ‘acting’ during that scene, when he had to raise the issue of him being hated by his father because he was a dwarf — That scene seemed stilted to me, and Dinklage’s emotion seemed lame to me. I think Tyrian used to be a lot more interesting than he is now. I think the writers are failing in some significant ways.
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wvParticipantThicker horns. Plus, i think the team has become too much like an action movie. Not enough development. And where are the dragons?
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wvParticipantSame mantra — things move to fast, not enough development.
And…i thought it was lame that Jamie and his buddy were able to get out of the river and escape capture. That place was crawling with Dothraki’s, and the just pop up out of the river and no-one is around?
I also thought it was lame that Tyrian would be able to waltz into Lannister-land and meet with Jamie.
And what happened with the big spear that was stuck in the Dragon?
Shouldnt there have been a scene where he got some medical treatment or somethin? He’s just all better now?I thought it would have made for a better scene if Tyrian had NOT tried to save the Tarleys from getting Burnt. Remember when Tyrian was just fine with killing a couple of the ‘masters’ after they came in warships and attacked dragon-lady? Well why would he get all sentimental about the Tarley-example?
I thought it was a bit lame that Snow and company think they can kidnap a whitewalker and one white-walker is going to convince Cersei that there is an army of the dead coming. More likely she would just believe they had created a zombie to fool her.
I could go on 🙂
Cant wait for the next show 🙂
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vAugust 13, 2017 at 6:29 pm in reply to: car drives into counter-protestors in charlottesville #72456
wvParticipantCar driving into crowd is a ‘clash’ – link:http://fair.org/home/for-media-driving-into-a-crowd-of-protesters-is-a-clash/
The Washington Post, Boston Globe, AOL News, The Hill, BBC and Sky News UK all chose to frame the ramming of a car into anti-fascist protesters as “clashes.”
The BBC’s breaking news tweet, “One dead amid clashes between US white nationalists and counter-protesters in Charlottesville,” is an extremely odd way to describe a person driving a car into a crowd of anti-fascist protesters—as was AOL’s “1 Dead, 34 Injured in Clashes at Virginia Rally.”
The term “clashes”—as FAIR (10/14/15) has noted before—is a term designed to obscure blame, presenting a picture of two equal sides engaging in violent activities. Reading “one dead” after “clashes” at a white nationalist rally gives us no idea who died, or who did the killing.
(Alternatively, one can veil responsibility by attributing agency to an inanimate object and disembodied emotions, as with the New York Times‘ headline, “Car Plows Into Crowd as Racial Tensions Boil Over in Virginia.”)
There are times when things can be ambiguous, but after a person the police say “premeditatedly” rammed into a crowd of anti-racist protesters with a car, it’s fairly clear the anti-racist protesters aren’t to blame for the death. But one would hardly know this, reading these “clashes” framings.
Most of these articles would mention in the text (or later change the headline after social media backlash) to make it clear it was the anti-fascist protesters who were mowed down, but the initial instinct to obscure who did what to whom speaks to the pathological fear of placing blame on the far right.
August 13, 2017 at 6:24 pm in reply to: car drives into counter-protestors in charlottesville #72455
wvParticipantFrom Facebook.
It’s a comment that accompanies a picture of the person being discussed, but I just didn’t feel like posting the picture.
Bruce DeSilva
A son of a bitch named Andrew Anglin, founder of the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, posted a photo of the smashed car that had rammed into a crowd in Charlottesville and said this about it: “The real tragedy is what happened to the car. It was a very nice car, worth much more than the life of whoever died.” Here he is, and of course, he is wearing a Trump cap.
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Yeah, I think if one looks at the totality of circumstances, one sees:
1) One of Trump’s core factions is indeed, the White-supremacists/Hard-core-Racists.
2) There are other non-racist factions that also make up Trump’s Core.My question would be, is that any different than Nixon, Reagan, Bush, McCain?
I dont know, I’m just askin.It ‘feels’ different but I think that might just be because Trump is more brash and vulgar about all of it. I dunno. I wonder if anyone has actually studied the numbers in some way that reveals whether ‘more racists’ voted for trump than Nixon or Reagan?
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After graduating, he studied the three main NFL offenses: Air Coryell, West Coast and Erhardt-Perkins.
==============…on Saturdays, hours after the games that concluded long weeks, so he could pore over film deep into the night. Beau Baldwin, the former Eastern Washington head coach who is now the offensive coordinator at Cal, would often return to the office to pick something up and see Kupp sitting there, alone. Sometimes he would be watching practice film of an offensive lineman, repeatedly rewinding it because he wanted to know what everyone was doing on every play…
=============…formal, 15-minute interview at the scouting combine in Indianapolis and new head coach Sean McVay said, “You felt like you were almost talking to a receiver coach.” …
===========…an an underwhelming 4.62 40-yard dash, but his times in the 20-yard shuttle (4.08 seconds) and the three-cone drill (6.75) were elite. He comes out of his breaks quickly, runs routes precisely, knows how to get open and has great hands…
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wvParticipantHemmingway drops too many balls, in other words, can’t catch. Blythe can’t snap or block well, and no one is saying anything about that.
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Its a conspiracy Jack.
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wvParticipantAh well.
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LaramHe’s from SC ya know and you’ve never heard me say a word about him.
Wanna know why? He’s a FUMBLER!!
Coughed it up at SC too which is why he didn’t get more play.
They always had him listed at 6’1″ about 200lbs
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