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I would be shocked if the numbers of civilian dead had not seriously increased under Trump, over the already unconscionable and indefensible levels under Obama. I can’t see how it’s even possible that they haven’t.

Some reasons why:

The US military is fighting terrorism in 76 countries around the world — here’s where

1. Trump increased troop levels in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and added brand new fronts in Africa and Asia.

2. He loosened “rules of engagement” protocols for the military (and domestically, for police, border agents, etc.), mocking previous rules as “PC.”

3. He increased defense spending, with more increases in the pipeline.

4. His ICE and Justice Department have been far more aggressive in going after migrants — inside and outside the country.

5. His Justice Department has been far more aggressive in the war on drugs, as well as going after dissidents, especially those who protest against Trump.

Also, Trump’s bizarre blind eye toward everything Russia made this far more likely:

Syria and Russia’s latest offensive has killed 177 civilians in 2 weeks

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I dunno, BT. I’m not sure any or all of that would come close to 26,000 actual bombs dropped. But, I dunno. I would like to know. But of course as american citizens we are not allowed to know what our CIA/deep-state is really doing and who it is murdering on our behalf.

Could be Trump is a bigger mass murderer than Obama. Maybe Obama is the bigger mass murderer. Its debatable at this point.

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Yeah, i think about that broad issue every single day. How do we compare Presidents? One thing i think about is — How many humans did they kill?

Obama dropped 26,171 Bombs in 2016 alone (I know you know this).
How many innocents did he kill(murder)? Will Trump even come close to that number at the end of his first year?

Then again, Trump’s policies are increasing climate-change and pollution so his policies will lead to more deaths of ALL living things (biosphere), more extinctions, etc. But how do we measure such things?

I wish we were smart enough to kinda have a running total of all life-forms, US Presidents were responsible for terminating. A scoreboard. Id like to see that.

bombs:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Ok, see to ME, this is bad parenting. Very bad decision-making.

“….“My son looked at me and asked, ‘Can I do that?’” Steve recalled.
Steve had seen some crocodiles on the banks of the river. He also knew the flow of the river could be unpredictable and potentially dangerous to a boy putting a higher premium on fun than safety. “But I told my wife that I’m going to let him do it,” Steve said. “I didn’t want him to be afraid of anything, and he did it….”

Well then you will never raise a playoff qb for a son. Or daughter for that matter.

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Any kid of mine who is boogey-boarding in crocodile-infested waters, IS
going to wear a helmet.

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I agree with all that.

For me the draft is all about the OLine. Yes, they need some tinkering in other places but the OLine is critical.

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I’m rooting for a Falcon v Patriot rematch. But i wont watch any of em.

Season’s over for me. Ended too abruptly. Ya know. Boom, and it was over.
Rams should be playin this weekend.

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I think there is New England, and then there’s about six or eight teams in the next level, and the Rams are in that second level. Which is great.

But its also great for those six or eight other good teams. Lots of good teams in the NFL and all of em can make the Super Bowl.

Barring injuries, the Rams should be in the hunt the next few years.

They still need depth and a few pieces and good-health. LT is a big concern. Depth behind Whitworth.

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Is Atlanta just a better team?

I only saw hi-lites. Didnt see the game. Looked like Atlanta just played better.

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Great season.

Atlanta is a good team. I wouldnt mind seeing them get a rematch with the Pats.

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Sposed-to-be minus 8 degrees tomorrow, here.

I already had a pipe burst.

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zn wrote:

LMU93 wrote:

The Rams will be playing in their 44th playoff game on Saturday. This will tie Oakland for 9th most in NFL history. If they win the following week they’ll tie the Colts for 8th most (45).

A playoff win Saturday would tie Miami for 11th most (20).

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Playoff Plays, stay with us a long time, sometimes. The good and the bad.

I still have vivid memories of (in no particular order):

1 Proehls Catch.
2 Ike’s catch.
3 The Tackle.
4 The hit on Jeff George.
5 Isiah Robertson’s INT-runback.
6 The fourth down stop of Staubach and the Cowboys.
7 Waddy’s catch
8 Hakim’s muff
9 Flipper’s catch
10 The Tom Dempsey blocked FG
11 The Joe Kapp hurdle
12 The Kurt INT vs the Pats
13 The Cromwell dropped INT.

I suspect Cooper Kupp is going to add some memories (good or bad?) to that list, come Saturday.

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I dont have any real problems with the article other than I’d say Reagan didnt ‘start’ that about the ‘Gubment bein bad’. The rich-and-powerful had been using that argument long before Reagan came along. Ya know. Just like corporate-power didnt begin with Citizens United, etc.

When i talk to rightwingers or rightwing-libertarians, they are completely blind to the problem of Corporate-Power. All they see is Government-Power. They only see half the problem. Many reasons for that, as weve discussed over the years.

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“Our picture of the world is provided by those that profit from our ignorance.” Gavin Gee

“It is arguable that the success of business propaganda in persuading us, for so long, that we are free from propaganda is one of the most significant propaganda achievements of the twentieth century.” Alex Carey

I’m VERY interested in how Mannion does Sunday.

I’m interested in the question of how much of the rams offensive success is due to Goff/Gurley and how much is the scheme.

I have had a hunch that this system could do pretty well with ‘anyone’ on the field.

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Here is whats going to happen — the Rams Scrubs are going to hang in there and hang in there and Fuckin FICKEN is gonna kick a 49 yard field goal with one second left to win it.

Rams 17
SF 16

…And thus began, the Legend
of Ficken.

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