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wvParticipantwvParticipantLessons of the Alabama election
14 December 2017Media pundits and Democratic Party leaders are hailing the outcome of the special election in Alabama to fill a seat in the US Senate—with Democrat Doug Jones narrowly defeating the ultra-right Republican Roy Moore—as a political “miracle.”
“Thank you, Alabama,” gushed the Washington Post, for choosing “to spare the nation the indignity of seating an accused child molester in the U.S. Senate.” The editorial concluded: “Thanks to Alabama, Americans can wake up Wednesday morning feeling hopeful about the decency and dignity of their democracy.”
The New York Times sounded the same theme, headlining its editorial, “Roy Moore Loses, Sanity Reigns,” and hailing a “triumph for decency and common sense in a state that seemed for a time at risk of abandoning both…” Referring to the right-wing Democrat who defeated Moore, the Times declared that Alabamians had been correct in “choosing a candidate whose record was cause for pride, not shame, one who spent his career battling bigotry, not exploiting it.”
The spreading of editorial rose petals over the Alabama result should fool no one. A right-wing Democrat, operating with a nearly 10-1 financial advantage, has eked out a victory over a fascistic candidate, not by confronting and opposing Moore’s ultra-right pronouncements, let alone offering an alternative to defend working people. Instead, Jones owes his razor-thin margin to the unleashing over the past month of a barrage of allegations of sexual misconduct by Moore….
……The Trump administration is deeply unpopular, the Republican Congress even more so. There has been a significant shift to the left in public opinion. But within the framework of capitalist politics, mass hostility to Trump has led to the election of right-wing Democrats: in the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial elections last month, the victory of a former Goldman Sachs banker and a conservative lieutenant governor who voted twice for George W. Bush; and now in the Alabama Senate race, the victory of Doug Jones, who ran as a law-and-order candidate and pledges to work with right-wing Republican Senator Richard Shelby and seek “common ground” with the Trump White House.
The last week of the Alabama election campaign coincided with the visit to that state by the UN Special Rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, who went to rural areas of the state where conditions are so abominable, in terms of water and sewage infrastructure, primitive housing, and poverty, that he said he had never seen as bad in any industrialized country.
These conditions are the joint responsibility of the two right-wing parties that hold all political offices in the United States and control local, state and national government. Living standards and social conditions continue to deteriorate under Democrats and Republicans alike. The working class must draw the necessary political conclusions, and take the road of independent political struggle against the capitalist system, building a new mass political party based on a socialist program.
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link:http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/12/14/pers-d14.htmlwvParticipantAs far as ISIS’ threat…they would attack us anyway if they could. This makes little difference.
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Maybe, but maybe it will motivate some new-recruits who wouldnt have joined had it not been for this ‘last straw’ etc, and so forth.
I dunno.
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vDecember 14, 2017 at 5:25 pm in reply to: Senator Warren on the tax bill thread becomes, political cartoons thread #78944wvParticipantDecember 14, 2017 at 5:21 pm in reply to: Senator Warren on the tax bill thread becomes, political cartoons thread #78943wvParticipantDecember 14, 2017 at 5:14 pm in reply to: Rams' defensive MVP outside of Aaron Donald: Lamarcus Joyner #78942wvParticipantA lot of fans thought he shoulda been a safety too.
I think Joyner is absolutely right about this.
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vwvParticipantDid Zooey-the-seahawk-fan contribute to that thread?
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link:http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48405.htmTrump Says Recognising Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel Will Bring Peace – it Will do Quite the Opposite
By Robert Fisk
December 13, 2017 “Information Clearing House” – I was called by an Irish radio station in Dublin to respond to President Donald Trump’s decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. What did I think was going on inside the US President’s mind, I was asked? And I replied immediately: “I don’t have the key to the lunatic asylum.” What might once have seemed an outrageously over-the-top remark was simply accepted as a normal journalistic reaction to the leader of the world’s greatest superpower. And re-listening to the speech that Trump made in the White House, I realised I should have been far less restrained. The very text of the document is insane, preposterous, shameful.
Goodbye Palestine. Goodbye the two-state solution. Goodbye the Palestinians. For this new Israeli “capital” is not for them. Trump did not even use the word “Palestine”. He talked about “Israel and the Palestinians” – in other words, of a state and of those who do not deserve – and can no longer aspire to – a state. No wonder I received a call in Beirut last night from a Palestinian woman who had just listened to the Trump destruction of the “peace process”. “Remember Kingdom of Heaven?” she asked me, referring to Ridley Scott’s great movie of the 1187 fall of Jerusalem. “Well it’s now the Kingdom of Hell.”….see link…
wvParticipantyeah. long-term i don’t think he’s the answer. they need an edge rusher in this draft. i think it might be a decent year for edge rushers.
they need cornerback too though.
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vwvParticipantBiggest game in….How long?
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They’ve had a lot of ‘big games’ this year, but this one is different, i think.
This ‘might’ even be…..a ‘very’ big game.
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vDecember 14, 2017 at 8:41 am in reply to: hello darkness my old friend, it's time for him to tweet again #78919wvParticipant========
Damn, that 16-tons one was actually poignant. Well-written. …i sent it to a prosecutor 🙂
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vwvParticipantBiggest game in….How long?
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vwvParticipantYeah he is, but a bad back is a bad back. They can be ok for a while, and then…boom. So, i dont think he can be counted on long-term.
Good to see him doing well though.
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vwvParticipantI know this much — there will be meetings on top floors of large scary buildings in NY City and Los Angeles — and corporate weasels will decide what on-air-celebrities are supposed to say about this issue. Much like the National Anthem issue.
“we strongly support womens right to be safe in the workplace, and we will wait
until all the facts have been investigated…”w
vwvParticipantHere’s why the Rams will win Sunday.
Because the universe needs things to go like this.
Seattle beats Philadelphia in Seattle.
Then, Philadelphia beats the Rams in LA.
So next, LA beats Seattle in Seattle.
That’s what the universe wants. Seattle over Phil, Phil over LA, LA over Seattle.
It’s the perfect way for things to be. Do it any other way, and it’s possible to make sense of things. But not this way.
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I saw an M.C. Escher sketch of that on a cocktail napkin in the Museo del Prado.
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Luckily M.C. Escher wont be calling plays for the Seahawks.
ok, i dont even know what that means. still, its true.
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Scottish comedyDecember 13, 2017 at 7:48 pm in reply to: hello darkness my old friend, it's time for him to tweet again #78896wvParticipantDecember 13, 2017 at 7:42 pm in reply to: hello darkness my old friend, it's time for him to tweet again #78895wvParticipantwvParticipantwvParticipantcorporate intelligence operations:https://www.rt.com/news/412982-private-surveillance-caterpillar-corporations/
Big, brand-name companies hired private intelligence firms to monitor political groups considered to be threats to their businesses, leaked documents reveal. The papers shine light on the shadowy world of corporate intelligence gathering.
British Airways, the Royal Bank of Scotland, Porsche and Caterpillar are among the companies that have been identified as having enlisted the services of corporate intelligence firms to spy on – and sometimes infiltrate – activist groups.
Hundreds of pages of leaked documents from two corporate intelligence firms, C2i International and Inkerman Group, reveal widespread use of spies-for-hire among the large companies over several years in the 2000s.
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Harvey Weinstein © Panoramic / Global Look Press ‘Army of spies’: Weinstein hired ex-Mossad agents to silence abuse allegations – reportThe corporate intelligence firms obtained emails, meeting minutes and other internal documents from the groups they spied on, according to The Guardian, which obtained the leaked documents in partnership with the Bureau for Investigative Journalism. Infiltration was also a common tactic used by the private spy firms. In one notable instance, a private spook “dressed up as a pirate with a cutlass and eyepatch as part of a protest.”
The intelligence firms were also paid to provide advance warning about demonstrations or other political activity being planned against the companies.
The document cache reveals that Caterpillar, one of the world’s largest manufacturing companies, hired C2i to spy on the family of Rachael Corrie, an American activist killed by a bulldozer while demonstrating against Palestinian home demolitions in the Gaza Strip in 2003.
At the time, Corrie’s family was taking legal action against Caterpillar, alleging that the firm was complicit in war crimes by exporting bulldozers to Israel with full knowledge that they would be used to illegally demolish Palestinian homes. The lawsuit was dismissed in 2007 after US judges ruled they lacked the proper jurisdiction to decide the case.
Shortly after the case was dismissed, Corrie’s mother held a conference call with supporters. C2i was able to obtain notes of the call, the documents show. Her comments were summarized in a five-page “restricted – commercial” report known as a “corporate threat intelligence alert” – authored by a C2i operative and stamped with a Caterpillar logo.
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Surveillance cameras overlook the building site of the new headquarters of the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service in Berlin October © Tobias Schwarz ‘Bad day for democracy’: German court rejects calls for disclosure of NSA spy targetsWhen reached for comment, Cindy Corrie told The Guardian that she found the private snooping “really distasteful.” She said her family had approached Caterpillar in the hope of fostering an open dialogue about the lawsuit but was spied on instead.
In 2005, Caterpillar enlisted the services of a different intelligence firm, Inkerman Group, to monitor protests in the UK. The Kent-based firm has a history of infiltrating campaign groups. Documents reveal how the firm was hired by a client to infiltrate a small group of activists in the UK, who were protesting against the construction of new cell towers.
Inkerman declined to comment when asked by The Guardian about who had hired it to spy on the cell tower campaigners. Responding to a separate request for comment, Caterpillar declined to “discuss specifics of its relationship with suppliers.” However, the company said that when it hired outside help, it would “expect those firms to act in a lawful manner and in accordance with our values in action.”
The leaked documents also show that C2i boasted of “real-time intelligence assets” embedded in a range of environmental groups, including Greenpeace. The firm’s clients included Royal Bank of Scotland, British Airways and Porsche around 2008. C2i changed its name before going belly-up in 2011.
wvParticipantOne post I saw on another board declared that the sad thing about the NFL net story was that she wasn’t all that attractive. So you know not worth it.
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Yeah, i saw that post too. I just shook my head.
…this morning as i was driving to a cthouse, i was listening to some national sports-radio thing. And the host and guest were discussing the Faulk-Taylor-NFL thing and it was SOOO obvious they had no idea how to even discuss it. The ended up making jokes. The host asked the guest what his wife would do if he “sent her penis pictures on the cell phone”. They had a giggle-fest.
Clueless about how to talk about it like adults.
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vwvParticipant“Amazing: turnout is at 72%-77% of ’16 presidential race in heavily black counties, but just 55%-60% in rural white counties. Black voters punching above their weight tonight & giving Jones a chance. #ALSEN”
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“..ones had a big advantage among younger voters and won overwhelming majorities among African Americans. He also won the independent vote by 9 points, an indication that Moore was abandoned by sections of affluent white voters who traditionally vote Republican. Some 22,000 voters cast write-in ballots, a higher number than Jones’ margin of victory. On Sunday, Senator Shelby had told CNN that he would not vote for Moore and he urged Alabama Republicans to write in the names of other Republicans…
…Apart from this sexual mud-slinging, Jones stressed his independence from the national Democratic Party, his support for increased military spending, his commitment to fiscal austerity and his backing for tax cuts to improve the business climate for corporations wishing to exploit the deeply impoverished working class in Alabama. He combined an appeal to black voters with an effort to win over disaffected Republicans.”
link:http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/12/13/elec-d13.htmlwvParticipantList of all the Super Bowl QBs. Plenty of pocket passers. Plenty of QBs who could run.
Okay fair enough. For example McNair got a lot out of being a runner, as did Young obviously. But, I don;t think the claim is, pocket passers can’t or shouldn’t run. It’s that being a pocket passer is the necessary key skill to master. You do better and last longer if you master that. That was certainly true of Young.
The thing with Wentz was, though, he was to me a reckless runner. But maybe he will learn.
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“being a pocket passer is the necessary key skill” — Yes, i think thats true.
But i think a pocket-passer who can run, is better than a pocket passer who cant.
So I’d say Elway, Young, Staubach were better than Marino, Warner, Brady.
I think. I dunno.
I also think a running back who can throw from the pocket is better than just a running running-back.
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vwvParticipantList of all the Super Bowl QBs. Plenty of pocket passers. Plenty of QBs who could run.
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1/15/67Bart Starr, Green Bay Packers, Alabama, age 33.
Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs, Purdue, 31.II – 1/14/68
Bart Starr, 34.
Daryle Lamonica, Oakland Raiders, Notre Dame, 26.III – 1/12/69
Joe Namath, New York Jets, Alabama, 25.
Earl Morrall, Baltimore Colts, Michigan State, 34.IV – 1/11/70
Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs, Purdue, 34.
Joe Kapp, Minnesota Vikings, California, 31.V – 1/17/71
Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts, Louisville, 37.
Craig Morton, Dallas Cowboys, California, 27.VI – 1/16/72
Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys, Navy, 29.
Bob Griese, Miami Dolphins, Purdue, 26.VII – 1/14/73
Bob Griese, 27.
Bill Kilmer, Washington Redskins, UCLA, 33.VIII – 1/13/74
Bob Griese, 28.
Fran Tarkenton, Minnesota Vikings, Georgia, 33.IX – 1/12/75
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers, Louisiana Tech, 26.
Fran Tarkenton, Minnesota Vikings – Georgia, 34.X – 1/18/76
Terry Bradshaw, 27.
Roger Staubach, 33.XI – 1/9/77
Ken Stabler, Oakland Raiders, Alabama, 31.
Fran Tarkenton, Minnesota Vikings, Georgia, 36.XII – 1/15/78
Roger Staubach, 35.
Craig Morton, Denver Broncos, California, 34.XIII – 1/21/79
Terry Bradshaw, 30.
Roger Staubach, 36.XIV – 1/20/80
Terry Bradshaw, 31.
Vince Ferragamo, Los Angeles Rams, California, Nebraska, 25.XV – 1/25/81
Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders, Stanford, 33.
Ron Jaworski, Philadelphia Eagles, Youngstown State, 29.XVI – 1/24/82
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers, Notre Dame, 25.
Ken Anderson, Cincinnati Bengals, Augustana, 32.
XVII – 1/30/83
Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins, Notre Dame, 33.
David Woodley, Miami Dolphins, Louisiana State, 24.XVIII – 1/22/84
Jim Plunkett, Los Angeles Raiders, Stanford, 36.
Joe Theismann, 34.XIX – 1/20/85
Joe Montana, 28.
Dan Marino, Miami Dolphins, Pittsburgh, 23.XX – 1/26/86
Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears, BYU, 26.
Tony Eason, New England Patriots, Illinois, 26.XXI – 1/25/87
Phil Simms, New York Giants, Morehead State, 32.
John Elway, Denver Broncos, Stanford, 26.XXII – 1/31/88
Doug Williams, Washington Redskins – Grambling, 32
John Elway, 27.XXIII – 1/22/89
Joe Montana, 32.
Boomer Esiason, Cincinnati Bengals, Maryland, 27.XXIV – 1/28/90
Joe Montana, 33.
John Elway, Denver Broncos, Stanford, 29.XXV – 1/27/91
Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants, West Virginia, 29.
Jim Kelly, Buffalo Bills, Miami, 30.XXVI – 1/26/92
Mark Rypien, Washington Redskins, Washington State, 30.
Jim Kelly, 31.XXVII – 1/31/93
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys, Oklahoma, UCLA, 26.
Jim Kelly, 32.XXVIII – 1/30/94
Troy Aikman, 27.
Jim Kelly, 33.XXIX – 1/29/95
Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers, BYU, 33.
Stan Humphries, San Diego Chargers, NE Louisiana, 29.XXX – 1/28/96
Troy Aikman, 29.
Neil O’Donnell, Pittsburgh Steelers, Maryland, 29.XXXI – 1/26/97
Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers – Southern Mississippi, 27.
Drew Bledsoe, New England Patriots, Washington State, 24.XXXII – 1/25/98
John Elway, 37.
Brett Favre, 28.XXXIII – 1/31/99
John Elway, 38.
Chris Chandler, Atlanta Falcons, Washington, 33.XXXIV – 1/30/00
Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams, Northern Iowa, 28
Steve McNair, Tennessee Titans, Alcorn State, 26XXXV – 1/28/01
Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens, Fresno State, 28
Kerry Collins, New York Giants, Penn State, 28XXXVI – 2/3/02
Tom Brady, New England Patriots, Michigan, 24
Kurt Warner, 30XXXVII – 1/26/03
Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Florida State, 34
Rich Gannon, Oakland Raiders, Delaware, 37XXXVIII – 2/1/04
Tom Brady, 26
Jake Delhomme, Carolina Panthers, Louisiana-Lafayette, 29XXXVIX – 2/6/05
Tom Brady, 27
Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia, Syracuse, 28XL – 2/5/06
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers, Miami (Ohio), 23
Matt Hasselbeck, Seattle Seahawks, Boston College, 30XLI – 2/4/07
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts, Tennessee, 30.
Rex Grossman, Chicago Bears, Florida, 26.XLII – 2/3/08
Eli Manning, New York Giants, Ole Miss, 27
Tom Brady, 30XLIII – 2/1/09
Ben Roethlisberger, 26
Kurt Warner, Arizona Cardinals, 37XLIV – 2/7/10
Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints, 31
Peyton Manning, 33XLV – 2/6/11
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, 31
Ben Roethlisberger, 25XLVI – 2/5/2012
Eli Manning, 31.
Tom Brady, 34.
XLVII – 2/3/2013
Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens, Delaware, 28
Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers, Nevada, 25XLVIII – 2/2/2014
Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, Wisconsin, North Carolina State, 25
Peyton Manning, 37XLIX – 2/1/2015
Tom Brady, 37
Russell Wilson, 2650 – 2/7/2016
Peyton Manning, 39
Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers, Auburn, 26LI – 2/5/2017
Tom Brady, 39
Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons, Boston College, 31wvParticipantBelichex is wiley. He probably included a golf-cart-clause in the contract.
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vDecember 12, 2017 at 8:17 pm in reply to: Eagles game play analysis: Waldman, "all 22," Baldinger, etc. #78847wvParticipantThe Gurley stop-and-escape-and-accelerate play where he avoids no.75 is
astonishing. Really remarkable talent shown there. That was faulk-like.w
vwvParticipantKojak missed a block.
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vwvParticipantI like QBs who can run. Give me a Steve Young, or a Roger Staubach any day.
And if Flutie and Tarkenton had been taller, they’d probably have gotten rings.
I think the big key is — can the guy throw accurately? Young could. Staubach could. But some of these running-QBs never did have the accuracy. Michael Vick. Randall Cunningham. Cam Newton. I dont think they could make all the throws. Especially the ‘touch throws.
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vwvParticipantWell, if nothing else all these incidents should lead to better corporate policies and a national discussion about sex and the workplace.
Humans.
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vwvParticipantWell its the game of the year for this team. Everything has been pointing to this Game.
And we’ve been here before. Late in the year, heading out to Seattle.
Bradford couldnt do it. I dunno if Goff can.
I can see 20 reasons to pick the rams and 20 reasons to pick the hawks:Rams 20
Seahawks 20.w
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