Conscientious Objector:

The dwarves “delved too deep”. So did the Valaryians:

Apparently, in the books, Daenerys had a shitload of visions:

“it was rushed”

Cast members had some interesting reactions:

Havent seen the actual show, but I’ve watched enough spoiler-vids and actual-scenes to get a prettygood sense of the final show. Leaving aside my — 6-episode-limitation-ruined-it mantra — looks like, to me, they did a good job with the ending. I liked what i saw.

I’ll never understand the bizness side of this. Why not make the finale a 90 minute show? Or two hours even?
Wouldnt they have made more money that way, with advertising and all?

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I got caught up on the last two episodes, so I’m current now.

Given what I’ve already said — ie, that the season was ruined because of the six-episode-limitation– I thought the last two episodes were ok. Considering.

I thought the burning of the city was a good plot idea and i thought they executed it well. Though of course everything was ‘rushed’.

Prettymuch everything to do with the dragons has been outstanding, imho. Props to the CGI folks. The wolves on the other hand have not been nearly as effective or believable. How is it that they can make dragons look more realistic than dire wolves?

For me the weakest plot-points in the last two episodes were:
1) Tyrian is STILL trying to reason with Circe. Really? A smart, crafty, guy like Tyrian is THAT dum? Really? It made him look stupid after building him up as smart. Hi killed his father but he still has a soft spot for Circe? Enh.
2) Jamies quick turnaround. Why in the world would he all-of-a-sudden feel like going back to Circe? Why? I mean…why? Did sleeping with Brianne awaken his love for Circe? I dunno. Seemed weak to me.

Strong scenes. — Unlike some folks i talked to, I liked the final scene with Jamie/Circe. I thought it was a good, satisfying way for them to die. Underneath the crumbling, burning, crashing building. Worked for me. Much better than watching Drogon burn them, or Arya stab them, etc. Are we sure they are dead btw?

Arya scenes — I liked the scenes of Arya in the burning, apocalyptic city. And even finding the horse, was fine with me. Worked for me.

Mixed reaction — I had mixed reactions to two scenes. The big battle tween the Hound and the Mountain. It always seemed a bit contrived to me, that they were headed for a final battle. I almost wished the writers would have had one killed prematurely just to avoid the obvious. So for me, the whole thing was bound to feel a bit contrived. And it did. But having said that, it was an ok battle. I thought they did a pretty good job of making it somewhat interesting. (though if i see one more sword battle on stairs Im gonna stab myself in the head with a pencil). I thought the ending of their battle was a good touch.

I also had mixed feelings about the Euron vs Jamie fight. I’m not sure why. It worked and it didnt work. I dunno. I do know that the internet (and me) just dont like Euron, and I’m not quite sure why. He brings humor to the ‘bad guy’ role — does that bother us for some reason? He’s actually a more believable and honest ‘bad guy’ than many of the others. Why does he bother so many of us? I dunno.

People often ask ‘who is going to win the throne’ but in the end, I dont think most of us give a shit about ‘that’. I think we are more interested in what happens to our favorite characters. And frankly, John and the Dragon Queen are not favorite-characters for most of us. Are they?
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zn wrote:

Everyone knows, of course, that all the events of Game of Thrones happened because deep in the past, Ned Stark promised to keep secret the fact that Jon Snow is actually the legitimate son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. Robert Baratheon went to war with the Targaryens under the belief that Rhaegar had kidnapped and raped Lyanna.

Aside from the White Walkers, all the plot events we see in the series involving civil war stem from
everyone fighting over the throne after Baratheon’s death.

So honoring the promise was costly.

This is something everyone just obviously knows, right?

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Yeah, but i forget WHY Ned Stark felt he had to lie about it. And i forget WHY Jon’s parents felt they had to lie about being in love and getting married.

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nittany ram wrote:

Mother Nature is completely indifferent as to our or anything else’s existence. We will eventually destroy ourselves and take half the life on earth with us.

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Well. Another walking-on-sunshine post from Cappy.

I talked to Mother Nature just last week, btw, and She said she cares deeply about dung beetles.

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Billy_T wrote:

< We don’t even seem to question why we produce what we produce. It doesn’t seem to register with people….

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Well this is the evil beauty of the system. Things ‘dont register’ with the public.

Its not an accident that some things ‘register’ and some things ‘dont register’.

Do we even NEED a CIA? The question ‘doesnt register’. Does the US interfere in ‘elections’ all over the globe? The question Doesn’t ‘register’. Are the Dems and Reps essentially the same on power issues? Doesnt register. Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

The big issues ‘dont register.’

What ‘does’ register? Sports, Malls, Gadgets, Fashion, Entertainment, Dem-Rep issues, The National Anthem, Prayer in Schools, Demons-of-the-Month (Iran, North Korea, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, Muslims, Commies), etc, etc, etc.

Its a madhouse.

There’s obviously resistance. Mainly misguided resistance. But also some ‘informed resistance’. Such as the folks on this board. But….aint nearly enuff ‘informed resistance.’

Ah well.

What would be better…a planet with humans or a planet without humans?

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At about 6:10 of the video — “character arts.”

What are ‘character arts’ ?

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zn wrote:

wv wrote:

clean snaps on 702 out of 703 attempts

EVERYONE who deifies Massey ignores that miss. 702 does not = 703.

I suspect it was his hand. But he refused to acknowledge the hand was an issue. In fact, it never comes up–at all, ever, in any context. Yet that’s probably what led to the downward spiral, and thus the season-destroying failure I just mentioned.

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It was a tragedy, alright. Worse than the Scott Norwood miss, for sure.

Unlike you though, i’m not a Massey-Blamer. It was the system; I blame capitalism.

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I didnt see the last episode yet, and usually i avoid spoilers till i see the show, but I saw so MANY utube headlines about how sucky it was, that I went ahead and watched the spoiler-vids.

I remember when i first saw they were skipping a year, and then finishing it up in SIX episodes — I knew right there and then, it was gonna suck. You simply can NOT take all those storylines and all those characters and wrap it all up in six episodes — UNLESS you cut a lot of corners and ignore character-development. I dont care how good a writer you are, it cant be done. (and these writers are not G.Martin)
They are just ‘ok’ writers. Not terrible but not great.

Anyway, the show jumped the shark as soon as it was reduced to six episodes. Just my o pinion.

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