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wvParticipantYeah, I was expecting a bit of a shit show defensively. The rookies have produced, Witherspoon grew from “also-ran” into a top flight corner, and the defense has done a good job.
They aren’t getting enough TOs. They are dead last in fumble recoveries in the league, second-to-last in INTs, and last in the league in TOs overall. .
It would be interesting to know ‘why’ this Defense cant get turnovers/get pressure.
Is it as simple as lack of talent? Or is it youth and a scheme that protects the young players from mistakes? Something else? I dunno. I’m never gonna be an X’s and O’s type fan, so I dunno.
I hope they have enough money to add a pass rusher to the Aaron-Donald line, though. Is that priority number one in the offseason? Or is the Oline ALWAYS priority number one when you have an elite vet QB.
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wvParticipant“….I’m really proud of those guys. I have definitely seen that over the last couple of weeks, and I think the coaching staff — you know, Raheem (Morris) and the rest of the defensive coaches have done such a phenomenal job. I’m proud of those guys.”….
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I had never really been totally sold on Raheem Morris. Even after the Super Bowl win.
( I mean, any decent DC could look good with Jalen, Von Miller and AD.)
He always seems…oh, i dunno….kinda fake to me. Full of cliches and smiles and Russell-Wilson-shit.
But this year, he has won me over. He has done a lot with what he’s had to work with.
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wvParticipantI havent enjoyed a human-death as much since Scalia.
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wvParticipantNot comparing KW to AD, but there’s a bit of a similarity in their profiles. Its like, “They can do everything really well”….the only negative is…they are “smaller than we like”.
Well….F that. Great personnel decision. Snead is the man.
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Kyren Williams NFL Draft 2022: Scouting Report for Notre Dame RB
POSITIVES— Better play speed than timed speed (4.65) with very good quickness and balance to make defenders miss in tight spaces. Fights to stay upright despite contact.— Consistently runs with the right tempo to let blocks develop. Has the burst to plant his foot and take advantage of holes created. Knows when to lower his shoulder and get north.— Tough runner despite smaller frame.— Very good route-runner with flashes of an advanced route tree.— Good hands. Comfortable snatching the ball.— Excellent in pass protection. Eyes constantly go to the right place for his assignment and is a very willing blocker.OVERALLKyren Williams has an interesting combination of traits that will give him value for whatever NFL team selects him.Williams has good vision in the run game and shows an understanding for various run concepts. He will press the hole when needed or throttle back to allow his blocks to develop. He does not dance in the backfield, and he knows when to get north.Williams is also a good overall athlete with the quickness and burst to take advantage of holes created. He is a complete back who will provide value on passing downs right away. Williams is a comfortable catcher of the ball who flashes the ability to run more advanced routes when split out as a receiver. He is also a very good pass protector, with good eyes to find potential blitzers and the toughness and physicality to meet defenders and sustain on his blocks.
—NEGATIVES— On the smaller side for the position.
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Kyren Williams will smoke the Browns defense, like a sausage in an Oil refinery fire. Or…somethin. I dunno.
Rams 13
Browns 12
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wvParticipantWildcard race.
Division Leaders: Eagles 10-1, 49ers and Lions 8-3
Falcons 5-6
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Wildcard leaders: Dallas 8-3, Seattle 6-5
Last Wildcard: Vikings 6-6
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In the Hunt: Packers, Saints, Rams 5-6
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A win over the Browns would certainly make things interesting.
Teams we need to hate: Minnesota, Seattle, New Orleans, Green Bay.
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wvParticipantPlayoff hopes are over if they lose to the Browns. It’s a long shot anyway, as the Rams have to win at least 4 of their 6 remaining games. We can chalk up 2 losses before kickoff: BAL and SF. That leaves them no margin. Cleveland and NO are going to be struggles.
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Probly true, but maybe that SF game wont mean anything to the 49ers. It could be they end up slotted for the same playoff berth win or lose.
I hope the last game ‘does’ mean something for them of course.
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wvParticipantWell….coming off a bye, a well-rested Ram team, playing maybe the worst team in the NFC, one would expect a solid win. And they came through.
I echo everyone else in noting how F’ing refreshing it is to see PHYSICAL football from the Rams running game. Freeman. K.Williams. I ‘reallly’ like those two backs. Did you see how KW finishes his runs? Good lord. We havent seen that since prime-Steven-Jackson. And he’s plenty fast enough. Not a game-breaker but he can burst for twenty yards a crack and then absolutely blow-up a DB. I mean he is going to injure some DBs.
And I havent seen enough of Freeman to know exactly what he is, but I’ve seen enough to know he’s good. Better than an ordinary back-up. Maybe he’s special, I dunno.
Browns are 7-4, but i see they got smacked by the Broncos. And someone named
Dorian-Thompson Robinson was their QB. 14 for 29, 134 yards.
Who the hell is Dorian-Thompson Robinson?
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wvParticipantThot this was an interesting vid. Not about Gaza, just some background stories.
wvParticipantOmg. I would just give up football if i were the Jets players. Just leave the stadium and go live on a mountaintop.
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wvParticipantWorst I’ve seen Goff play this year. There were some WTF plays in that game.
We’ll see if his present coach can reset Goff or, ya know, announce that Jared is “our QB today”
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wvParticipantYeah, this is a playoff game, essentially. And its a game that will be important in kinda defining this team. Well, maybe not the ‘team’ but more like the ‘season.’
McVay needs to have them come flying out of the gate like those screeching monster-bat things that tried to eat Vin Diesel in Pitch Black.
Lets just say they won this game. And lets say the won the…49er game. 5-1 record in the West. That would make for an interesting offseason.
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wvParticipantTaunting after the INT, though. That was inexcusable, and the guy just seems to have a knack for getting flagged. But he’s also fairly effective, seems to me. .
Yeah, he’s got talent and he’s an immature. Morris and the secondary coaches have a nice project in this kid. Either they can coach him up or he’s always gonna be a bit of a selfish idiot. We’ll see.
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wvParticipant1a Dickerson 1b Faulk 3 Jackson
Faulk was OBVIOUSLY 1A and Dickerson was OBVIOUSLY 1B.
You are obviously a Heretic.
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wvParticipantAlso, if we can go beyond the Rams for the best running backs we’ve ever seen . . . Gale Sayers was the first back that just stunned me as a fan of the game, and made me want to be a running back “when I grow up.”
.Well…..I loved Brian Piccolo. And i wish you would love him too.
wvParticipantI think you have to ask yourself why would an offense be “out of sync” 10 games into the season?
Capitalism.
Do i have to explain football to everyone on this board.
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wvParticipantNot sure the Rams win that game if Aaron Donald doesnt knock out the starting QB for that critical stretch. Wont show up as a sack or anything other than a hit, but that was probly a game-saver. w v
So you condone physical violence then?
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Only by the oppressed. Aaron Donald was obviously being oppressed that whole game.
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wvParticipantNot sure the Rams win that game if Aaron Donald doesnt knock out the starting QB for that critical stretch. Wont show up as a sack or anything other than a hit, but that was probly a game-saver.
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wvParticipantCant quibble with any of that. Though If i were to quibble, I’m not sure I’d have W.Tyler that high on the list. But I’m older than BT, and i saw John Cappelletti, and he brought great blocking and instincts and leadership.
Plus, I saw the indomitable Les Josephson.
https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/los-angeles-rams/leaders/career-rushing-yards
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November 20, 2023 at 1:20 pm in reply to: twitter, reporters, etc. + big articles — the Seattle game #146885wvParticipant“…. Now, the results don’t necessarily reflect that in a positive way from this game. But the thinking/process itself…he’s openly stating he’s calling for the TD, not just the go-ahead FG. And I’m not trying to put some sort of spin on this, and again I do see both opinions here, simply thinking out loud and thinking that is VERY interesting. Everything he said and then everything I gathered behind the scenes pointed toward: calls may have failed/outcomes weren’t all positive, but the late-down decisions seem to reflect a more aggressive process…”
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I enjoy reading JR as much as any sports-reporter i have come across. And I’ve been reading sports-reporters since…oh…1969, I’d say. She’s already in the Pantheon.
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wvParticipantI just think Stafford is a QB playing with a hurt thumb. We’ve seen Kurt try to play with one. It aint always pretty. Ah well. A broken Stafford is still a gritty, wily, brainy QB.
I’m more impressed with this win, than some of uze, apparently. Tough, ugly win against a good team. I like Freeman, the RB.
Looking forward to watching Mr Goff, on genocide-day.
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wvParticipantSome good things happened this week. Vikes, Falcons, Bucs, Saints, lost. That Ram loss to the Packers may turn out to be big, though.
Division leaders, Eagles, Lions, 49ers, Saints (5-5)
Wildcard teams:
Dallas 7-3, Seattle 6-4,
Vikings 6-5
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Still In the hunt: Packers, Rams, Falcons, Bucs, all 4-6
Commanders 4-7
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wvParticipantwvParticipantwvParticipantWhere I am going to differ is in the defense of terrorism. First there are South African militants who condemned the “neck tie” burnings. So that’s not a universal example of battling apartheid. But my main thing is, everyone who commits terror believes in their hearts it’s in the name of a just cause. That includes the KKK with its lynchings, McVeigh and Oklahoma, the Nazis in their ascent to power, Mussolini’s fascists, and so on…for that matter it includes the illegal settlement mafia that attacks West Bank Palestinians to drive them off their land. If we say to them our cause is true and yours isn’t, they say the same to us. So I never excuse anything that can just be used by the other side, using the same rationale. I also don’t equate Hamas with Palestinians. And in case that sounds like some thin anti-muslim veneer, during the conflict between the Israeli state forces and Hezbollah, I defended Hezbollah. The current Israeli government promoted Hamas. Not enough people know that yet. To me the left and wars of liberation have to honestly act like they really are better, not just in their principles but in their tactics. That can be done in ways that are pragmatic and effective, so I don’t accept the Stalin-like argument that the other side plays dirty so you have to too (that’s not addressed to anyone here–it’s something I hear around sometimes when these issues come up). To quote The Hound (it’s the exchange that starts at 3:20): <iframe title=”The Hound meets the Brotherhood – BRILLIANT dialogues | Game of Thrones” src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/71KqyxYb-dM?feature=oembed” width=”690″ height=”388″ frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=”allowfullscreen”></iframe>
Well, I dunno, but I just cant see any way the Palestinians can achieve any kind of justice/land by peaceful means. Can you imagine Israel budging an inch on any of this?
I also ant see any way the Palestinians can achieve any kind of justice/land by violent means. Can you imagine Israel/USA losing a war to the Palestinians?
So….
I cant condemn Hamas. I cant condemn any ‘terrorist’ group who is in the position Hamas is in.
I also cant praise or cheer or celebrate what Hamas did. I cant ‘go there’ either.
So, i just stay silent on the Hamas part of this.
On the Israeli Occupation part of it — i never shut up.
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wvParticipantWell…its better than i expected but it doesnt really represent my view. Its what i have heard described as a ‘soft zionist’ view.
I mean nowhere in that vid is the word ‘occupation’ even uttered. Seems to me, He kinda starts from the premise that both sides are equally innocent and equally guilty or something close to that.
One of my questions is this — is it even possible to legitimately argue a group is a ‘terrorist group’ when said group is fighting a murderous occupation? Was the ANC a ‘terrorist group’ when they were burning people alive, as they fought against apartheid in South Africa? Were the Black Panthers ‘terrorists’ when they were robbing stores to get money for ‘the revolution’ ? Were the Earth First folks ‘terrorists’ for blowing stuff up in their fight against capitalist-ecocide?
I dunno. I’m hopeless, I’m afraid.
I noted Chomsky asked this question in an old video: If the Palestinians remain peaceful, what changes will Israel make? (the obvious answer, being Nothing, None, Zip. Just a slow continuation of expanding settlements and ruthless occupation)
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wvParticipantWentz: “…”And so I just didn’t feel like God had closed that door, so I’ve been kind of just patiently waiting and staying ready…”
I was always told, when God closes one door….you should listen to your handlers, and market yourself as a new-improved, team-player.
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wvParticipantSo after week 10 (i think?) this is the sich-u-a-shun:
Division leaders in order : Eagles, Lions, 49ers, Saints.
3 Wildcard teams as of today:
Dallas 6-3
Seattle 6-3
Minnesota 6-4
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In the hunt:
Bucs 4-5
Commanders, Falcons 4-6
Packers, Rams 3-6
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Rams would have to climb over 5 teams.
Next up: Seattle, Arizona, Cleveland, Baltimore.
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wvParticipantWatched some Lions highlights. RB David Montgomery had a Faulk-ish TD run.
Lions 7-2 now. Their defense looked awful.
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wvParticipant— Matthew J Garbincus (@garbincus) November 10, 2023
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