Zooey wrote:

I am spending all day at school every day, trying to make the best of this situation. Mostly I am struggling with a never-ending parade of technical difficulties, and learning to do new things with tech toys.

I have been too busy doing that to actually figure out how to change the format of various assignments, and because I teach multiple classes that are completely different, I have to do all that for each class, unlike a teacher who may have 3 sections of the same thing, so they convert their stuff once for the entire lot of kids.

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So schools are not cancelled in Calif?

Schools are closed here.

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InvaderRam wrote:

haha. well. i will say that my father in law who was a republican (i’m pretty sure he voted for w bush). he’s now a democrat. he’s for medicare for all.

my own father and mother. both republicans who later switched over to the democrats. they are in favor of medicare for all.

i also talked to my father in law’s friend. he’s a pediatrician. he is for medicare for all.

they’re all pretty much centrists i would argue.

BUT. i should also add that my parents came from korea. my father in law is from japan. the pediatrician is also from korea. both countries have a national healthcare system. so they come from a totally different perspective than most americans i would say.

so yeah. there’s definitely a huge hill to climb.

i will say that most young americans i talk to. are for a national healthcare system. that’s the feeling i get. meaning people under the age of 30. just the hunch i get from casual conversation.

so maybe people don’t change… but generations do???

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Well, i got no answers, but i do know that surveys and polls and anecdotal stuff always points to many people SAYING the want this or that — but none of that means squat if they go into the voting booth and vote for Bushes, Trumps, Bidens, Obamas, Gores, Edwards, Reagans, etc.

People say all kinds of stuff. And then they vote for imperialist-corporatists, over, and over and over. And over. And over.

I’m hoping at the end of all things, God explains this to me.

This guy is funny at times, btw:

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wv wrote:

The warning from the nation’s largest university, with some 40,000 students, applies “especially” to students staying in nations with “poorly developed health services,” as well as countries, “for example the USA,” with a “poorly developed collective infrastructure.”

maybe this will be the wake up call this country needs?

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Well, let me know if you meet any centrists or Rightwingers who change their views. 🙂

This health-care system is based on Centrist and Rightwing policies. Decades of ‘that’.

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link:https://www.huffpost.com/entry/norway-students-us-collective-infrastructure_n_5e6ec485c5b6dda30fcbba2a?utm_source=main_fb&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&utm_medium=facebook&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063&fbclid=IwAR2eYr94VXwJaQQT3-ruioBzyP3zBKGJGAFv3bMN_UClnmerS9bcrKFZGCY

Norway College Urges Students To Return From ‘Poorly Developed’ U.S. Amid Pandemic
Students studying abroad are called home because of the spread of the coronavirus, “especially” from the U.S.

Norway’s renowned University of Science and Technology has issued an alert urging students studying abroad to return home as a response to the coronavirus pandemic — specifically singling out the U.S.

The warning from the nation’s largest university, with some 40,000 students, applies “especially” to students staying in nations with “poorly developed health services,” as well as countries, “for example the USA,” with a “poorly developed collective infrastructure.”

The alert notes it can be difficult in the U.S. to “get transport to the airport if you don’t have a car.” It added, apparently referring to “poorly developed health services,” that, “The same applies if you don’t have health insurance.”

“In line with the advice from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, I, as NTNU’s Rector, strongly recommend that all NTNU students who are outside Norway return home.

This applies especially if you are staying in a country with poorly developed health services. This also applies for countries with poorly developed collective infrastructure, for example the USA, where it can be difficult to get transport to the airport if you don’t have a car. The same applies if you don’t have health insurance.”

The university’s alert came as Norway’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a statement Saturday advising all Norwegian citizens abroad to return home.

Norway is shutting down its airports and harbors to foreign travelers on Monday. Norwegians will be allowed to return home — though they’ll have to be quarantined for 14 days.

In 2018 private meeting with lawmakers, President Donald Trump reportedly expressed a desire for more immigrants from Norway after complaining about people moving to the U.S. from “shithole countries,” and naming Africa and Haiti, according to one of those present. Responses from Norwegians at the time indicated they were quite happy where they were.

Here’s how some Twitter users responded to the Norwegian university’s directive:

Disinfectant Vid

Slate:https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/coronavirus-tsa-liquid-purell-paid-leave-rules.html

America Is a Sham
Policy changes in reaction to the coronavirus reveal how absurd so many of our rules are to begin with.
by Dan Kois
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….Each day of this public health crisis brings a new example. People thrown in jail for minor offenses? San Antonio is one of many jurisdictions to announce that, to keep jails from being crowded with sick citizens, they’ll stop doing that. Why were they doing it in the first place?

The federal government charging interest on loans to attend college? Well, Donald Trump has instructed government agencies who administer loans to waive interest accrual for the duration of the crisis. But why on earth is our government charging its own citizens interest anyway?

Broadband data caps and throttled internet? Those have been eliminated by AT&T and other ISPs, because of the coronavirus. But data caps and throttling were really just veiled price hikes that served no real technical purpose. Why did we put up with them?

Police helping landlords evict tenants in times of financial trouble? Due to the coronavirus, not anymore in New York, Miami, and New Orleans. But—and you see where this is going—why do the police aid evictions when tenants are stricken with other, non-coronavirus illnesses?

The city shutting off your water, or your power, as punishment for hardship? During this public health emergency, plenty of cities and companies have suddenly found a way to keep service turned on. “As long as COVID-19 remains a health concern,” said Detroit mayor Mike Duggan, “no Detroit resident should have concerns about whether their water service will be interrupted.” Why in the hell should any Detroit resident have concerns about their water service being interrupted, ever? Shouldn’t clean water be the absolute base level of service delivered by a city to its residents?

Sick employees forced to take unpaid leave or work while sick if they want to keep their jobs? Walmart recently announced it would provide up to two weeks of paid leave for any employee who contracts the coronavirus. And the House just passed a bill to address the problem, though as the New York Times editorial board notes, the House’s failure to make the bill universal “is an embarrassment that endangers the health of workers, consumers and the broader American public.” But why should any sick worker fear losing their pay or their job at any time? And why are the most vulnerable to punitive sick leave practices the workers making the lowest wages?” …see link

Mackeyser wrote:

I couldn’t get through all of that… fucking Bill Maher…

As someone who’s VERY loud on twitter pushing the #NeverBiden and #BernieOrBust, I make it clear to every shitlib who makes the mistake of coming at me what’s up.

And it’s all your guys’ fault asking me if my principles matched my politics all those years ago…

Now I’m nearly a leftist… LOL

but for real, tho… I won’t vote for any Dem again. Period. Not even AOC if she runs in 2024.

That party needs to die in a fucking fire and the ONLY way that happens is if we stop acquiescing to this “lesser of two evils” nonsense… which it is because as we all know, it’s more accurate to say “the different of two evils”.

If anything, Trump’s incompetence has led him to do LESS harmful shit than Obama did… no new wars and very few legislative achievements unlike Clinton who woulda worked with McConnell to give the Republicans not only everything they wanted, but cover because it happened under a Dem President.

Nah, progressives and the left need a third party that actually represents what we want. Every time we vote for ANY Dem, we sabotage our own efforts and I won’t do it anymore.

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Well…damn. I’ve missed YOU, comrad.

I’m prettymuch in the same place as you, Mack, though, I am not exactly ‘at peace’ with where I’m at. I’m not ‘serene’ about it. I got here by thinking to myself…what do you do when every choice is a bad one, when every road leads to Hell? 🙂 My own answer to that was ‘vote yer conscience.’

But i totally respect any leftists decision to vote for Hillary/Biden/Gore/Edwards/Clinton/Whoever

Have you ever heard of Scott Nearing, btw? I’m reading a good book by him called Making Of A Radical

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Good book, I’m reading:https://www.amazon.com/Making-Radical-Political-Autobiography-Good-ebook/dp/B005VDX0B2
Scott Nearing

I hadnt seen this one before. This is classic. A centrist and a leftist, try to talk politics. This is how it almost always goes.

nittany ram wrote:

I’d like to see your precious James Nestor answer that!

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I ordered a used book authored by James Nestor, because in a youtube, he taught me that Sperm Whales can “vibrate a human to death” if they want to.

When is the MSM going to tell the American People that Sperm Whales have the power to vibrate us all to death? Why the cover-up? How did the entire establishment turn everyone into Vibration Deniers? Answer me that, Mr. Neanderthal.

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Virus comedy, is big in NY.