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January 28, 2024 at 1:00 pm in reply to: watching/reacting to/thoughts on: the conference games #149089
wvParticipantI’m not sure where to put this, but I’ll put it here, i guess. They cover various things, but the part i thought was good, was the discussion of the Bills and Josh Allen. GCossell says Josh Allen ran the offense perfectly. The Bills defense was decimated so they made the decision not to attack down the field against KC.
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wvParticipantwvParticipantDotson seems like a priority, i would think.
I know they dont have much cap room, but I’m hoping they can scrounge up another really solid OLineman. A right tackle, maybe. Hav had a good year, but his body is probly put together with duct tape at this point.
We know what they need on defense. And they will either hit on their draft picks or they wont. IF they do (pass rusher, corner, repeat) they can be in the potential-NFC-championship conversation.
Hard to imagine Snead having another draft as good as the last one, but if he does….
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wvParticipantSo, how many black head-coaches does the NFL have now? Tomlin. Pierce in Vegas. Bowles in Tampa. Morris in Atlanta. 4, now. Is that it?
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wvParticipant“….Former Tennessee Titans coach Mike Vrabel should be added to this list, too, although he’s not in a bullet point because it’s unclear whether he would take a defensive coordinator job after he was a head coach (similarly why Bill Belichick isn’t included in a bullet point, though McVay deeply admires the former longtime New England coach).”
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Yes, and Chuck Norris, Flipper, Anton Chigurh, and the God of the Old Testament were also not included in a bullet point.
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wvParticipantThis is the kind of thing the media will minimize or ignore, but it looks huge to me.
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“….However, there is some bad news for the Lions. Their starting left guard suffered an injury against the Buccaneers, and will likely be out.
The Detroit Lions will likely not have their Pro Bowl guard in the NFC Championship Game.
Jonah Jackson injured his knee in the first half of the Divisional Round after he tweaked his knee run blocking. Jackson limped off the field and went straight…”
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wvParticipantGood for RM, but, damn.
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wvParticipantOnly, this.
wvParticipantBout the 10 or 11 minute mark of the vid, Mark Sanchez talks about the Lions QB coach and what he’s worked on with Goff, etc.
wvParticipantfwiw…saw a vid where former Rams DE Chris Long was being interviewed and he said — and im paraphrasing — his assessment of Goff depended on the weather. He was not high on Goff if Goff had to play in rain or bad weather. So, he was interested in what the weather was going to be in San Francisco. He said if the weather was good, Goff could be good….
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wvParticipantSo its Lions at 49ers for the NFC. Probly the two best teams in the NFC this year.
Should be a close game, i would think. Especially if Deebo is out.
If Goff gets to the super bowl and does poorly, the media will be merciless.
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wvParticipantBut after the bye they scaled back on him. He apparently applied himself in camp last summer and upped his game. Then he got hurt and Robinson seemed to displace him. He had 54 targets, 6 a game avg., before the bye. After the bye he missed 3 games, but then only had 13 targets in 5 games, 2.6 a game. That’s some serious back-scaling. This is just speculation but…I think TA stepped up this season but McV still had to program him in in specific ways. He was good at what he did in 2023 but what he did was more limited than Robinson. When Robinson finally stepped up, he became the 3rd WR–after the bye he had 38 targets, or 5.4 a game. Just guessing, but it looks like at that point McV was just less interested in programming in “Atwell plays.”
Yeah, Robinson’s emergence, did push tutu down to no.4-role-player, but he still was so much better than in the previous years.
This season included so many solid years by the non-stars on this team. McSnead built a solid ‘team.’ Remarkable year.
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wvParticipantAh well. SF pulls it out.
They dont look unbeatable anymore though, do they.
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wvParticipantwvParticipantIMO the best “story” SB would be Detroit v. Houston. Though, Detroit physically beating up Stafford while he was on the ground soured me on them.
Yeah, motor-city is like that. I didnt like it when Laimbeer and Rodman went after Stafford and Faulk.
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wvParticipantWell, i say they should just keep drafting record-breaking rookies-of-the-year.
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wvParticipantSigh. Well, I get the frustration old-schoolers have with toning down the violence. I get it. And DB’s are in a difficult situation with the big Tight Ends running over and through the small DBs these days.
But…ya just cant allow that kind of hit on a football player anymore. You cant allow launching at the knee. Even if its not intentional.
The DB should have to go lower or higher. And yeah, its asking a lot. But the NFL wants offense and they want healthy players. So, figure out a rule.
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wvParticipantOn the CJ hit of KW. I dont know what the rule is. I know a tackler cant use his helmet, but can a tackler hit an RB’s head with the shoulder? I would think on a bang-bang play like that, CJ’s hit would be legal. Dangerous as F, but legal.
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wvParticipantwvParticipantBy far the best of wildcard round Puka Nacua setting single game receiving postseason rookie record was awesome. Watching Stafford take elbows to the head on the end of a 3 step run that started after the ball was thrown that shot knocked him down and the other asshole knees him in the head and rib stomps him for good measure the camera stops and the ref’s shoes are center frame, he saw every single bit of it and did nothing. Can’t wait till next year!
Little bit reminiscent of the Belichex plan against Faulk and company way back when. Beat up the opposition and take it as far as it will go unless the refs start throwin flags.
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wvParticipantI remember when the Rams 1999 top-6 defense, disintegrated into the 2000 bottom-6 defense. Seemed like people got old overnight.
Is that what happened to the Eagles?
They were awesome last year. It wasnt a mirage.
Strange. One of the strangest collapses i can remember.
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wvParticipant…ok, look at the blue bumper sticker on the wall behind Chris Long.
wvParticipantIts hard not to be very-optimistic about next year. I mean, they really dont need much more. IF they hit on some draft picks, sign a couple solid vets, and stay healthy — they can have quite a year.
I dont remember another year quite like this one. Maybe the 79 Super Bowl year is closest? They were 9-7 i think. We didnt expect an NFC title and a close game with the Steelers.
Sometimes a team’s losses say more than the wins. Ya know. The Baltimore loss and Detroit loss said so much about this team. More than any of the wins, i would say.
They showed heart as well as talent. Not a bad start to a third chapter for McVay. The Goff years. The Super Bowl run with Stafford. Now, the…what? We’ll see, i guess.
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wvParticipantGreat win for Detroit. If they had to lose, well….ya know.
Not sure the best team won, though. I think the Rams are right-there with the Lions.
Hope the Lions can upset the 49ers down the road.
Stafford is awesome. Cant say enough about the Rams this year.
Just need a player here, a player there, and some luck, and they would be right there with the elite teams. A pass rusher. A good corner.
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wvParticipant41-16 in the third quarter. Are you kidding me?
wtf happened to dallas defense?
And Dallas has more first downs than GB.
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wvParticipantI am picking the lions because I’m too frightened of getting my hopes up
by picking the Rams.
Lions 30
Rams 24
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wvParticipantzn: “….My answer? One. Bradford. Who played 15 games for him. From 2013 through 2016 the other qbs were Clemens, Hill, Austin, Keenum, Foles, and Goff as a rookie. That’s 65 games. How many of those were starting caliber? Some argue Foles is/was starting caliber. I disagree…”
Well, without going too far down the how-many-QBs-can-fit-on-the-head-of-a-football-tee, hole, its seems like some historical situations are just too F’ing weird to categorize. Human brains love to label and organize and categorize, though. We just do. Evolution, i guess. But to me, Foles is one of them mysteries of the universe. He did some things that were just f’ing weird-as-hell. That first year in Philly was it? Somethin like a million TDs and 2 INTs or somethin like that. Then the idiot years with the Rams. Then the f’ing Super Bowl playoff run with the Eagles. Then back to the back-up world.
I mean WTF does one do with that ? What is he? He’s like….a platypus.
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wvParticipant, but then neither DV nor McV excelled when in the same bad circumstances–ie. not having both a good veteran starter at qb and a relatively healthy OL at the same time (that covers 98 and 2022). The bottom of the barrel guys are–in alphabetical and so actually no particular order–Brooks, Knox 2, Linehan, and Spa..
Well, DV had Kurt. Do you consider him a veteran in 99?
But to the larger point about Fisher, yeah, he was kilt by injuries. Fisher could have been Robinson-level I think, without the bad-luck.
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January 11, 2024 at 8:05 pm in reply to: hiring/firing around the league (including Carroll & Belichick) #148625wvParticipantSaw on a vid, that Belichex had “15 top-five defenses” over the years. 9 with the Pats, 4 with the Giants and 1 with the Browns. Its notable because he is linked with Brady so often. But Brady had nuthin to do with the great defenses. w v
I’m a “it was Brady” kinda guy. Lot’s of teams with perennially good defenses didn’t win the prize. Like for example the 70s Rams. What if we could manipulate time, and send in-his-prime Brady back to the Knox Rams in 1973. Their defenses from 73 through 77 were ranked 1, 3, 2, 4, 4, 1.
Well, sure, its might have been mostly Brady. But, I dunno. I’m pretty comfortable saying Belichex was one of, if not the, greatest ‘defensive minds’ of the modern NFL. I think there’s a consensus on that.
As for the Brady thing — yeah, I saw a graphic that said Belichex coached 11 seasons without Brady. In those years he made the playoffs only twice, and was 83-101.
In the 18 seasons with Brady, he was 219-64, yadda yadda.
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January 11, 2024 at 7:35 pm in reply to: hiring/firing around the league (including Carroll & Belichick) #148622wvParticipantSaw on a vid, that Belichex had “15 top-five defenses” over the years. 9 with the Pats, 4 with the Giants and 1 with the Browns.
Its notable because he is linked with Brady so often. But Brady had nuthin to do with the great defenses.
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