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February 3, 2021 at 8:00 pm in reply to: Exclusive: Jared Goff LATimes interview with Sam Farmer #127556
wvParticipanti just find it hard to believe that folks think that Goff is not capable of winning a Super Bowl in LA. He was 2 dropped passes by Brandon Cooks to win it 2018.
He and his 9 fingers pulled within 7 when his number 1 defense turned to Swiss Cheese in Wisconsin. Goff and the Rams beat the shit out of the current NFC Champion (TB) in their backyard. He’s more than capable to win…..
He and his 9 fingers relieved Alfred E Newman (wolford) in Seattle to keep the Rams alive this season. Does any remember Wolford’s scramble prior to the one he got hurt where he slid well before the 1st down marker on 3rd down?… If Goff did that, folks would still be hammering him. Who made the decision to start Wolford over GOff that game?
the question is, …is McVay and his gambler Les Snead GM capable? He’s a fucking choker, curled up in the Super Bowl before the coin was even tossed sucking up to Billichick like a school girl…… He didn’t prepare his team for SF last year and got eliminated.
You can’t pin the last 2 seasons on Goff, but you can pin it on his contract that impacts the roster and draft… who fault is that?
BTW, is anyone concerned of the current coaching exodus???? Why is that happening?
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Well, i said for years, Goff is good enuff to win a ring.
So, that ‘is’ what i thot.But i also think two other things:
1) Goff has made more dum mistakes this year
than in past years. I’m talkin dum ones. Not the usual kind.
and,
2) McVay knows more about the QB situation than i do. So, if McV thinks
an upgrade is needed, I kinda just go, “well alrighty then.”Granted, McVay may be wrong.
Granted, Goff may win three rings in the next ten years.The future is unwritten 🙂
If the Rams wanna compete with the big boys though,
I think they still need a WR-burner, and i guess
an upgrade at Guard.w
vFebruary 3, 2021 at 2:02 pm in reply to: Exclusive: Jared Goff LATimes interview with Sam Farmer #127548
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I think Les is in way over his head… he’s like a degenerate gambler trying to play catch up on a Monday Night Football game bet to make for his Sunday’s losses…
He’s gambling the future on an old horse at QB when he had a more than capable QB who was combat proven to win huge games.
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I just dont think any of us can ‘know’ that.
McSnead obviously think they couldnt win a Ring with Goff.
They could come close, but not quite get past the Chiefs, Packers, 49ers.Maybe they are right. We dunno.
We will have to wait and see.
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vFebruary 3, 2021 at 1:58 pm in reply to: Exclusive: Jared Goff LATimes interview with Sam Farmer #127547
wvParticipantDetroit, Michigan. Home of the Detroit Lions. In Detroit. It’s like Siberia, but worse. Some Siberian destinations have a bed of flowers. Lovable Losers, like the Cubs were for so long. Cleveland at least had the respectful sympathy of a nation of fans who recognized and honored their losing ways. Detroit got nada. No history, no lovable fan base, nothing. And it’s Detroit.
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I have all kinds of mixed feelings/thots. Too many to untangle,
but I do like the trade and I’m glad it happened, even though,
like all trades its impossible to say who, if anyone, will benefit.But as far as Goff in Detroit, in a way he’s in a good situation.
No-one in the media expects much from him. Detroit’s fans are rolling
their eyes about him. Detroit has been awful forever.He’s got a chance to be part of a rebirth, and shock a lot of people.
I’m sure they know they need to build an OLine and a Running game.
Maybe it happens.We all like Jared, it would be nice to see him rise
like a Phoenix with the Lions.But i wanna see a Ram QB with a Big Gun
for a change. I just wanna see it.w
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wvParticipantIf you havent listened to that Gottleib vid above, you might wanna.
Gottleib claims his info came from a coupla sources inside
the rams….says goff’s work ethic wasnt as good as Wolford’s and he didnt take work-ethic cues from workaholic McVay, and Goff didnt take responsibility for bad games, etc.Either Gottleib is just full of shit,
or some rams people are trashing Goff,
or…i dunno.w
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wvParticipantJalen was fun on this.
wvParticipantPFF: Ranking the most productive 2020 NFL rookie draft
..How their top pick fared: Cam Akers, the 52nd overall pick… but he still didn’t generate a significant amount of value for the Rams, especially considering where he was drafted.
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Um, what? That is an F’d up rating-system
if they think Cam Akers didnt generate a significant amount of value.w
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wvParticipantMike Silver’s article reads to me like the work of a guy who has a preference for Goff over McVay on a personal level.
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Yeah, i thought so too.
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wvParticipantLions fans. Not thrilled with Goff, but he’s a “middle tier QB”
wvParticipantThese guys are 49er fans. In another vid they called Goff “a day off for the 49er defense.” They said the 49ers ‘owned’ Goff.
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wvParticipantHas Detroit been good at ‘anything’ in the last decade?
Wonder why they have sucked for so long
at so many things.I guess we are gonna pay a little more attention
to them now that they are linked to the Rams
in a way.w
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wvParticipantI’m curious who they will trade
the 2024 and 2025 first-rounders for.w
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wvParticipantI dont think Aikman ‘trashed’ Goff in his telecasts.
I always thought Aikman was critical but fair, regarding Goff.I dont think Mc-Snead should have said one single
word — other than bland generalities — to the Press, about Goff during the negotiations. I dunno why they felt the need to do the coy shit.Having said that, i also think these are multi-millionaires
playing a game, and I dont ‘feel sorry’ for Goff, and i
dont think McVay/Snead did anything to the level of what we saw,
back in the Madame Ram days.w
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wvParticipantmaybe he has a carson palmer like resurgence toward the end of his career. he could potentially have another five years left in him.
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Maybe a Jim Plunkett resurgence.
Not a Joe Namath, though.
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wvParticipantOn the ‘falling out of love with his stars’ thing.
Todd Gurley had a 3.5 yard rushing average for the Falcons.
Gained less than 700 yards.I dont think McVay ‘fell out of love’ with Todd.
I think Todd hurt his knee.w
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wvParticipantIn 2017, he had a QB rating of 99.3 — but get this,
he was sacked 47 times. That has got to be some
sort of record.He had 2 fumbles in 2020.
He had 11 in 2017.Hasnt been a Low-INT guy.
Usually in that 10-15 range.5 seasons over 95 QB rating.
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wvParticipantwiki:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Stafford
NFL single season Record
“most 4th Quarter comebacks in a season – 8”
2016=
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wvParticipantI guess the Legend, John Wolford,
is a back-up QB, again.His star didnt quite reach Massey level.
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January 31, 2021 at 11:47 am in reply to: “where does this one go?” – the comic side of dystopia #127382
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wvParticipantDefenses have successfully pressured Goff with four players — creating less favorable offensive situations downfield — but Wolford’s ability to move demanded more attention with extra rushers. Free rushers couldn’t cover the bootlegs the Rams love to use, because Wolford got into them faster and moved them away from that pressure when needed. Against the Cardinals, whose defensive game plan dared Wolford to throw in an effort to contain the Rams’ run game, McVay appreciated how his entire offense and the quarterback weren’t dependent on successfully running the ball.
I am not that impressed with this writer even though she gets all kind of praise. This paragraph is just dumb.
The Cardinals are not a real play-off caliber defense with talented pass rushers, like the 49ers with Nick Bossa. McVay and the Rams are usually fine against teams like the Cards, but you need real talent, especially on the o-line, to match up against talented d-lines.
I think we all know that here. I just find it frustrating to see this completely ignored from Rodrigue.
Where are the good o-line players going to come from? I’m not sure the Rams even have ONE good player o-line now. They have no cap and, now, have lost some good picks to find those players.
McVay and Snead are getting way too much benefit of the doubt from Rodrigue and other Rams fans.
McVay and Snead have made a number of bad gambles after they lost the benefits of Goff’s rookie deal–the 2019 plan to replace Saffold & Sullivan was lousy, the plan for the 3rd WR this year sucked, and the special teams in 2020 (remember Sloman??) revealed the dangers of replacing talented players with a lottery ticket.
It will be interesting to see what the Lions do this year. They actually have some interesting potential on offense: two good tackles, a 2nd team-all pro Center, a young & talented TE, and a WR in Golladay, who will provide Goff with a big, talented guy who can go get the ball. Goff has never played with a guy like that.
If the Rams have an injury-riddled year that leads to a losing record this year or next, the Lions will definitely be laughing all the way to the bank.
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I think she’s just channeling McVay or some Ram insiders. But who knows.
And i think the Rams, of course, know they need to address
the OLine.I have zero idea how all this change (coaching losses, new QB)
will turn-out. But I’ll say this purely as a fan
thinking about watching ‘fun plays’ — I am gonna enjoy FINALLY
seeing a Ram QB with a GUN, LoL.And yes, i know Stafford has made a ton of dum plays
and the expert-reviews on him are mixed. Some think he’s top tier,
some think he’s 2nd tier, some third tier. I guess we’ll find out.Its all about the OLine after this.
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wvParticipantThe Rams look like a better team with Stafford at qb. He can do some impressive things. But he doesn’t look like a top tier guy.
I watched about 10 minutes of Youtube highlights and saw Stafford take a ridiculous sack and fumble in the end zone 3 years ago against the Saints and also throw a dumb Int in the red zone against the Saints last year. Uggh.
Hopefully, the Rams are making a wise bet that some of their young guys–Brycen Hopkins, Anchrum, Jefferson, and maybe Brian Allen–will be talented players.
The 9ers still look like a better team and should be the team favored to win the West.
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I have no idea who the best team in the West is. They all
look bunched up to me. I suppose injuries will decide it.At any rate, whens the last time a Ram starting QB
had an ARM like Stafford? Just curious.
Ferragamo? Do we have to go back that far?
Tony Banks maybe?w
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wvParticipantThe Turfshow comment conflicts with some other ones
Ive seen, that said the Rams offer was by far
the best.
wvParticipantThe Los Angeles Rams move from 20-1 to 14-1 odds (sixth-best) to win next year’s Super Bowl at @PointsBetUSA off of Matthew Stafford deal.
— Ben Fawkes (@BFawkes22) January 31, 2021
wvParticipantStafford is bringing his dimes to the Rams 🎯 @RamsNFL pic.twitter.com/nh5veulKC9
— The Checkdown (@thecheckdown) January 31, 2021
wvParticipantJared Goff has $43 million in fully guaranteed money left on that deal — $25M in base salary in 2021, a $2.5M roster bonus due on the 2nd day of the 2021 league year in March and another $15.5M roster bonus due on the 2nd day of the 2022 league year.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 31, 2021
wvParticipantThe #Rams inherit the two years, $43 million remaining on Matthew Stafford's contract. The #Lions will carry a $17.8 million dead cap hit in 2021.
The #Lions inherit four years, $106.6M remaining on Jared Goff's contract. The #Rams will carry a $22.2M dead cap hit in 2021.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 31, 2021
wvParticipantSo i read that McVay just fell in love
with Stafford at some point.Plus the cap hit over the next two years
is much less with Stafford.I dunno. I’m startin to like it.
Feel bad for Jared though. The Lions. Man.
wvParticipantHoly Shit.
Geez, I like Stafford but not for two no1 picks.
Omg.
wvParticipantIf Stafford became a Ram, I’d be fine with that.
Cause, I basically put Stafford and Goff
in the same pile of ‘good qbs’ who i think
could win a Ring.Deshean Jackson would be an upgrade,
Stafford would be a horizontal-grade.I think the Rams will still be
“wildcard level” no matter how many assistant coaches
they lose, and whether or not its Goff or another
“good qb” at the helm.But if they actually want to improve, and challenge
the Chiefs, they will need to improve the OLine,
and they will need a burner at WR. Imho.
All that is do-able.w
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wvParticipantI’m somewhere between Startled and Astonished.
I got nuthin. Other to say, Wolford did not
‘beat out’ Goff. I dunno how anyone could
arrive at that conclusion after watching
Wolford play. And i love that he can move.
Love it. You guys know, i love mobile-QBs.
But i dont see Wolford as a starting NFL QB.
He’s crafty, and game, but he’s no Russell Wilson.
=========I guess,in 2020, I’d rank Goff, about 13th,
behind these guys: Goff 20 TD /13 INTLots of really good years for QBs,
as per usual. These are my own rankings, fwiw.
The only one that i dunno what to do with
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Mahommes 38/6
Aaron Rogers 48/5
Josh Allen 37/10
Tom Brady 40/12
Russell Wilson 40/13
Deshaun Jackson 33/7
Drew Brees 24/6
Ben Rothlisberger 33/10
Baker Mayfield 26/8
Matt Ryan 26/11
Philip Rivers 24/11
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