wv wrote:

Good. Rams have needed to spruce up a bit.

I think he could give us two or three more
first downs per game.

w
v

Puns are a bannable offense.

🙂

Until the Rams stop being one of the most penalized teams in the league, we’re going to continue to see drives like that. Every single Sunday.

That’s one of the reasons they’re 7-9.

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

Winnbrad wrote:

The offense is still terrible. 2 games, haven’t scored a TD.
An ugly win, but a win monetheless. And I’ll take any win over Seattle.

9 penalties for 78 yards. No running game.
Still looks like some 7-9 bullshit to me.

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There is some room for improvement on offense

w
v

Strictly speaking you guys are right. And I would not argue with the general premise.

But, still. Keenum was 60% for 219 yards and a 7.3 YPR with no INTs against last year’s 2nd ranked defense (1st ranked in points allowed). He had some clutch throws mixed in there. Britt had 94 yards on 6 catches.

I wouldn;t tell the GSOT Rams to climb down off the throne just yet, but, they showed some moxy and some promise for better.

Now for a zn edit:

nittany ram wrote:

All these games WINS against Seattle look the same

All true, but this O can’t make the playoffs. The D today played lights out. That won’t happen every game, and especially on road games. Fisher’s road record with this team is horrible.

My hope is that Spruce can be a Welker/Amendola type chain mover. We don’t need a great O, just an average O. Right now, we’re at the bottom of the league in offensive stats. Again.

And where the hell is Cunningham??? I was counting on him to move some chains, but he hasn’t been used at all.

We need Spruce and Cooper to step up.

The offense is still terrible. 2 games, haven’t scored a TD.

An ugly win, but a win nonetheless. And I’ll take any win over Seattle.

9 penalties for 78 yards. No running game.

Still looks like some 7-9 bullshit to me.

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bnw wrote:

Winnbrad wrote:

We need Spruce healthy. That’s my main question with him. From what I saw in preseason he can catch the ball in traffic. We need that Welker/Amendola (in their prime) kind of receiver. Hell, I’d take any good WR at this point.

Is Welker no longer on the team?

No. They let him go. And even if he were, at this point in his career, he’s useless. We need the younger version of Welker, but with better hands. I’m hoping that’s Spruce. If he can stay healthy.

If the Hawks are smart, and they’re not, they’ll throw short quick passes all day against the Rams. The Hawks have VERY sure-handed WRs. They can move the chains, keep our D on the field, and kind of protect Wilson.

The game probably won’t go that way though. I’m guessing the Hawks will turn the ball over, try to take deep shots against our safeties (they’re not good), and Wilson will run all over the place because that’s what he always tries to do.

Oh, and let’s not forget the massive amounts of penalties both teams will incur.

Hopefully, this will be a very ugly game. The Rams can win those. 🙂

Rams 9, Hawks 7. The total penalties in this game will exceed the total points.

Enjoy!

Not worried at all.

12 months from now, if Goff still looks this bad, then yes I’m worried.

I have no idea what Goff’s ceiling is. The floor would be a Ryan Leaf/Jamarcus Russell type bust.

The ceiling? Heck, if Goff gets anywhere near Everett or Bulger in their prime then we’ve got a good QB. Hopefully for 10 years.

I’m excited to see him play in preseason. I want him to move the chains with a good running game, a good short passing game, and his feet. I think he can do it. He seems “shifty” in the pocket. Goff seems to have a lot of experience running for his life and making the best of busted plays. Good. He’s gonna need that.

wv wrote:

“I love Carson Wentz,” Fisher said, “but Jared Goff is gonna be my quarterback. The way he gets the ball out — how he knows where to go with it and gets it to the receiver perfectly, in stride, in the tightest of windows — it’s a sight to behold. You look at the way the Patriots play, with Tom (Brady) just zipping the ball to (Julian) Edelman and (Danny) Amendola before you can even think about touching him, and that’s where football is today.
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Think about what that sez about Fisher. Doesn’t sound like a guy
who is lost in the past or hasn’t kept up with the changes in offense, etc.

w
v

I like hearing that from Fisher. Let’s hope they can execute effectively.

I just watched Gruden’s QB Camp. First was Wentz, second show was Goff.

I liked Wentz. I get the Big Ben comparison now. It’s fairly accurate. He looks like a lumberjack playing QB. Had a lot of enthusiasm on the show. I didn’t like the “ball upside down” thing he does sometimes, though.

I have no issues with Goff, but he just seems “not as tough”. Hell, I don’t know how to explain it. He’s probably another Tom Brady for all I know. Maybe I just don’t like the name Jared.

Anyway, both looked good.

Gruden, however, I could do without.

Here’s the upside down ball thingy.

Any team that doesn’t have a good QB is “desperate” to get one, imo. It’s the nature of the league now.

The Rams did exactly what they had to do. Trading for the first pick puts them in control of this draft and their destiny. No more waiting to see what other teams do, or making adjustments at the last minute during the draft. The Rams control the first pick. That’s the smart play imo.

They gave up a lot, but at least they’re serious about finding a QB.

Keenum is not the answer, unless the question is whether we want to keep missing the playoffs.

The Rams don’t even need a great QB, just a good one. Hell, even above average would work. Somehow, this team has to get out of the bottom of the league in QB and WR stats. The passing game is pathetic. An upgrade at QB is the best solution to that problem.

The Rams are paying a steep price, but without a decent QB this defense, running game, and special teams will continue to win 7-8 games.

I guess we’ll see where this goes. Who knows? Maybe even more maneuvering will occur before the draft.

To moving up? No.

Drafting more than one QB in this draft? Yes.

wv wrote:

Winnbrad wrote:

I don’t know. I don’t think Fisher is terrible. That’s a strong word for a coach that’s been around this many years and has had some success.

I think Fisher still underestimates the “new” league. He doesn’t seem to get the importance of good QB play and good WRs. This is a QB ONLY league now. A team has to have a good one. Even Seattle’s D, which has been great for a few years, wouldn’t go far without the solid playmaking ability of Wilson.

The one good QB Fisher had was Steve McNair, and he wasn’t great, but he was good enough. Coupled with a great running game and a good D, Fisher had success.

So unless we can find our own version of McNair we’re gonna remain a .500 team, imo.

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Well, i think Snisher ‘gets’ how important the QB-position is.
I think every single coach in the NFL understands that.
But a lot of teams just havent been able to find a Russell Wilson.
It seems to be very difficult to guess/evaluate which college
QBs are gonna be good in the NFL.

Fisher bet on Bradford. A LOT of experts agreed
that Bradford would be good or very-good. He blew
out his knee twice, etc.
Then Fisher bet on Foles. A LOT of experts thought
Foles would be decent to good to very good.
Now Fisher made that call so he gets the ‘blame’ but
I dont think the problem is Fisher fails to understand
how important the QB position is.

Not every coach gets to pick no.1 when Andrew Luck is
sitting there

I’m sure Fisher has weaknesses (and strengths) but
failing to understand the importance of
having a good QB, probly aint one of his weaknesses.

…I’m not sure he’s the best guy to evaluate WRs, though.
I dunno.

w
v

I’m sure you’re right. Fisher is a smart guy with about 40 years of football experience. He’s forgotten more about football than I know. But at some point, Fisher, Snead, the powers that be, have to do whatever it takes to get a good QB. I don’t care if they reach in the draft. I don’t care if they overpay for a guy and give up too much money or draft picks. Whatever it takes to make it happen. The people in charge need to get it done.

Winning the super bowl is the goal. If the Rams start the season with Keenum/Foles/Mannion/and some project to be named later, we will not be moving towards that goal. The QB play from this team is simply not good enough to make the playoffs. Especially in the NFC West.

So I don’t know. I don’t know what it takes to get a decent QB, but the Rams need to pull out all the stops, throw money around, do a rain dance, whatever it takes to make that happen.